Hybrid Pitch

[Pasquale for King]

2 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said:

I’m out walking Carrick Know golf

course just now with the dogs and there’s a green keeper out on a lawnmower now cutting grass. It’s a beautiful morning. Let’s hope we get a result today 

It’s looking great 👍🏽 

[Seymour M Hersh]

14 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

I was assured on here a few weeks back that the grounds men would be allowed to cut the grass.

I wasn’t sure if you could call it essential work but here’s a photo of Carricknowe on Wednesday morning, the grass has been cut.

 

Where was that taken from? It looks more like Murrayfield GC from Corstorphine Hill.

[Pasquale for King]

11 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Where was that taken from? It looks more like Murrayfield GC from Corstorphine Hill.

My wife took it I just assumed it was Carricknowe, apologies. I’ve never played Murrayfield or been up Corstorphine Hill.

Edited April 20 by Pasquale for King

[DETTY29]

14 hours ago, kila said:

Volunteers are keeping Prestonfield course maintained too

 

Course will quickly turn into a field if it wasn't cut, even if there's no players. If I lived closer I would be more than happy to help maintain my local course!

 

Any contact details?

 

I'm 2 mins from there and would love to help out.

 

Didn't see anything on their website.

[Seymour M Hersh]

7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

My wife took it I just assumed it was Carricknowe, apologies. I’ve never played Murrayfield or been up Corstorphine Hill.

 

You might want to ask her what she was doing up there? 

[Pasquale for King]

49 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

You might want to ask her what she was doing up there? 

Walking the dogs.

[Saughton Jambo]

3 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Where was that taken from? It looks more like Murrayfield GC from Corstorphine Hill.

That’s exactly where it is. It’s a wee place called the rest and be thankful just behind the zoo. There’s a bench there that overlooks Murrayfield GC. There’s also a plaque that’s mentions a quote from the book Kidnapped by RLS. 

[kila]

5 hours ago, DETTY29 said:

Any contact details?

 

I'm 2 mins from there and would love to help out.

 

Didn't see anything on their website.

 

Was just in a members newsletter:

 

"Some of you may already have noticed, we are grateful to a few volunteers who have been helping keep the course maintained during the shutdown. Our hope is that it will be in sufficiently good condition to allow our greens staff to get a flying start in preparing the course for your return to play."

 

You could try emailing them if you're keen. Not sure what equipment they can use given the greenkeepers have been furloughed.

 

[Takis51]

Going to be this guy again and ask if anyone’s got any updated pictures of the pitch at this current time?? Expecting it to be like a carpet... Hopefully see a scarf or two held aloft on it sometime soon😉

[campbell]

1 hour ago, Takis51 said:

Going to be this guy again and ask if anyone’s got any updated pictures of the pitch at this current time?? Expecting it to be like a carpet... Hopefully see a scarf or two held aloft on it sometime soon😉

There is one on hearts Instagram from the 3rd of June and it looks it’s top condition, die some reason it won’t let me post it on here on my phone 

[Boris5115]

6 minutes ago, campbell said:

There is one on hearts Instagram from the 3rd of June and it looks it’s top condition, die some reason it won’t let me post it on here on my phone 

I wonder if they carried out the procedure of taking the top off it and reseeding it as recommended done each close season on hybrid pitches. 

[Jamboelite]

8 minutes ago, Boris5115 said:

I wonder if they carried out the procedure of taking the top off it and reseeding it as recommended done each close season on hybrid pitches. 

Im guessing they havent made  the same mistake twice and have done what they were told to do.

Edited June 22 by Jamboelite

[primrose]

11 minutes ago, Boris5115 said:

I wonder if they carried out the procedure of taking the top off it and reseeding it as recommended done each close season on hybrid pitches. 

 

 

Is that the procedure? I never knew that, how does the plastic stay in place with that process?

[Boris5115]

1 minute ago, primrose said:

 

 

Is that the procedure? I never knew that, how does the plastic stay in place with that process?

I believe its called Koro Topfield Maker. Grant our resident Groundsman explained the process several months ago on this thread. I think it only skims the top of without causing any damage to plastic fibres. Problem last year was the fibres were compacted under the surface. Hence the reason the top has to come off and the fibres are left standing up again. Just my understanding of it. Correct me if I am wrong. 

[primrose]

21 minutes ago, Boris5115 said:

I believe its called Koro Topfield Maker. Grant our resident Groundsman explained the process several months ago on this thread. I think it only skims the top of without causing any damage to plastic fibres. Problem last year was the fibres were compacted under the surface. Hence the reason the top has to come off and the fibres are left standing up again. Just my understanding of it. Correct me if I am wrong. 

 

 

I'm not an expert mate, anything I know has been of google or sent to me. I can understand the process now tho, so thanks for that.  I take it that the concert trample the plastic fibres flat? 

[Boris5115]

8 minutes ago, primrose said:

 

 

I'm not an expert mate, anything I know has been of google or sent to me. I can understand the process now tho, so thanks for that.  I take it that the concert trample the plastic fibres flat? 

I would have thought that the Concert would have been a factor mate. Maybe Grant could update if possible. 

[Manny1874]

1 hour ago, campbell said:

There is one on hearts Instagram from the 3rd of June and it looks it’s top condition, die some reason it won’t let me post it on here on my phone 

 

 

 

[Samuel Camazzola]

On 22/06/2020 at 13:55, Takis51 said:

Going to be this guy again and ask if anyone’s got any updated pictures of the pitch at this current time?? Expecting it to be like a carpet... Hopefully see a scarf or two held aloft on it sometime soon😉

Looking ravishing in the sun today. 

 

[Gilberts Fridge]

Looks so much better than the Stickle Brick Arena that the Franchise Soccer Club play in

[kila]

It's looking good.

 

They really ought to paint those gable ends maroon though

 

 

[TypoonJambo]

6 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

Looking ravishing in the sun today. 

 

Hard to imagine that immediately to the right was the old shed😩😩

[Gone]

Looks perfect! Let's book The Killers

[Samuel Camazzola]

34 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said:

Hard to imagine that immediately to the right was the old shed😩😩

And to the left, a big stream of pish from the bogs! 😄 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

7 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

Looking ravishing in the sun today. 

 

No wonder players and fans alike suggest there is no comparison. Look at what we could have had  

[Arthur Morgan]

5 hours ago, kila said:

It's looking good.

 

They really ought to paint those gable ends maroon though

 

 

Would prefer them white.

[Hearts_fan]

3 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said:

Would prefer them white.

 

Would take them pink if we would only get rid of that amateurish giant-white-square-half-black-with-badge monstrous relic. How many years has it been like that, 15, 20?

[King Of The Cat Cafe]

6 hours ago, Fluorescent Adolescent said:

No wonder players and fans alike suggest there is no comparison. Look at what we could have had  

 

 

Shouldn't be too hard to fill in the corners, though...😜

[pablo]

On 11/01/2020 at 00:01, davemclaren said:

Today. 
 

 

 

Been a quiet six months hasn't it?

 

Just wondering if anyone knows if we have managed to repair this yet? @Saughton Jambo 

[Saughton Jambo]

The glaze has worn off the mosaics on the parts that appear dirty and it’s years of ingrained dirt that you see. It’s not builders material that caused this, contrary to the rumours. It needs a very deep Industrial steam clean without chemicals. That would clean it. Trouble is the dirt and steam would affect all surroundings the newly painted room and ceiling that were just done. Probably a bigger job to protect the environment it’s in rather than cleaning the mosaics themselves. Not sure this will happen during Covid though. 
 

Great story as to how the mosaics at Tynecastle came about and the Italian ex POW, specialist that laid it 

[buzz]

2 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said:

The glaze has worn off the mosaics on the parts that appear dirty and it’s years of ingrained dirt that you see. It’s not builders material that caused this, contrary to the rumours. It needs a very deep Industrial steam clean without chemicals. That would clean it. Trouble is the dirt and steam would affect all surroundings the newly painted room and ceiling that were just done. Probably a bigger job to protect the environment it’s in rather than cleaning the mosaics themselves. Not sure this will happen during Covid though. 
 

Great story as to how the mosaics at Tynecastle came about and the Italian ex POW, specialist that laid it 

it doesn’t look quite as bad in this photo, just after the old stand was demolished.

 

[Saughton Jambo]

That’s very true. But any porcelain tile with the protective glaze missing will just absorb dirt and grime and make them vulnerable to dirt Ingres, especially if there’s rain about making the atmosphere pollute them further. This icon should’ve been covered and protected BEFORE any demolition work had started. Its a schoolboy error to have left this so long before covering. A bit like  closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. 
 

It was said on her that cement was mixed on top of our icon and that is just without foundation. It can still be cleans and restored, then re sealed to bring it back. Not sure the club could afford to do that just now given how tight our funds are at this given time 

[pablo]

Is it a particularly expensive job? That's the kind of one off heritage jobs I think fans would be willing to donate towards. Or I certainly would anyway. 

 

Oh and thanks for the update @Saughton Jambo

Edited July 25 by pablo

[buzz]

4 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

That’s very true. But any porcelain tile with the protective glaze missing will just absorb dirt and grime and make them vulnerable to dirt Ingres, especially if there’s rain about making the atmosphere pollute them further. This icon should’ve been covered and protected BEFORE any demolition work had started. Its a schoolboy error to have left this so long before covering. A bit like  closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. 
 

It was said on her that cement was mixed on top of our icon and that is just without foundation. It can still be cleans and restored, then re sealed to bring it back. Not sure the club could afford to do that just now given how tight our funds are at this given time 

I hope it gets done at some point, it’s a shame to see it in the state it’s in just now.

[Saughton Jambo]

57 minutes ago, pablo said:

Is it a particularly expensive job? That's the kind of one off heritage jobs I think fans would be willing to donate towards. Or I certainly would anyway. 

 

Oh and thanks for the update @Saughton Jambo

The best person to ask would be a fellow poster on here who has specialist knowledge in industrial cleaning. There will be a network of jambos who have professional knowledge that would offer services to help our club with little return asked for. I know of many who were involved in the stadium build and many who gave  their services at cost price. Some businesses even paid for things and gifted them to the club as a donation.
 

In my opinion there should be an appointed liaison officer who who could act as the go between for the club and many professional individuals who have the knowledge and wherewithal to help our beloved club. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

22 hours ago, pablo said:

Is it a particularly expensive job? That's the kind of one off heritage jobs I think fans would be willing to donate towards. Or I certainly would anyway. 

 

Oh and thanks for the update @Saughton Jambo

 

Seems to me FoH cash would be ideal for such a project.

[Fun Boaby]

On 25/07/2020 at 09:18, Saughton Jambo said:

The glaze has worn off the mosaics on the parts that appear dirty and it’s years of ingrained dirt that you see. It’s not builders material that caused this, contrary to the rumours. It needs a very deep Industrial steam clean without chemicals. That would clean it. Trouble is the dirt and steam would affect all surroundings the newly painted room and ceiling that were just done. Probably a bigger job to protect the environment it’s in rather than cleaning the mosaics themselves. Not sure this will happen during Covid though. 
 

Great story as to how the mosaics at Tynecastle came about and the Italian ex POW, specialist that laid it 

On the stadium tour last year they blamed the builders and said they were put off the job because of it.

[Saughton Jambo]

It’s definitely not cement but you can see from the pictures that the mosaic is definitely worse after they started the demolition. Should have been protected from the onset. This is our heritage and our history and shouldn’t be taken lightly. The damage should be rectified and this should be restored to its former glory. There will be conservation specialists out there and in my opinion, the head of our museum should be approached and questions asked as to what will be done about this. It shouldn’t be left like it is. We have a duty of care to ensure that it is protected and restored. 

[Boris5115]

56 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

It’s definitely not cement but you can see from the pictures that the mosaic is definitely worse after they started the demolition. Should have been protected from the onset. This is our heritage and our history and shouldn’t be taken lightly. The damage should be rectified and this should be restored to its former glory. There will be conservation specialists out there and in my opinion, the head of our museum should be approached and questions asked as to what will be done about this. It shouldn’t be left like it is. We have a duty of care to ensure that it is protected and restored. 

I was on the stadium tour October 2019 and the tour guide defo said that it was sabotage on the builders behalf claiming that they must have been hibs fans. That aside I can't believe it's not be restored to its former glory by now. As we are on the Hybrid Pitch thread does anyone know if its had the top chopped off yet. 

[Saughton Jambo]

3 minutes ago, Boris5115 said:

I was on the stadium tour October 2019 and the tour guide defo said that it was sabotage on the builders behalf claiming that they must have been hibs fans. That aside I can't believe it's not be restored to its former glory by now. As we are on the Hybrid Pitch thread does anyone know if its had the top chopped off yet. 

If it was sabotage and if that was said at the tour then why have we not taken the builder to task and made him pay for this damage. The only sabotage I see is that it was left unprotected whilst demolition works were carried out and the dirt and sit Ingres have exacerbated an already worn classic icon from our history. 

The club should be addressing this and making a statement to clear any unfounded rumours up. I’m surprised we just accepted its fate if rumours are true. 
 

I’d happily put my hand in my pocket, along with countless others, to see this restored.  It’s a highly skilled and sensitive operation to restore this to its former  glory but it can and should be be done. 

[Boris5115]

11 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

If it was sabotage and if that was said at the tour then why have we not taken the builder to task and made him pay for this damage. The only sabotage I see is that it was left unprotected whilst demolition works were carried out and the dirt and sit Ingres have exacerbated an already worn classic icon from our history. 

The club should be addressing this and making a statement to clear any unfounded rumours up. I’m surprised we just accepted its fate if rumours are true. 
 

I’d happily put my hand in my pocket, along with countless others, to see this restored.  It’s a highly skilled and sensitive operation to restore this to its former  glory but it can and should be be done. 

Only quoting what was said by the guide pal. I read others saying the same thing. Regardless true or not and if not true I can't understand for the life of me why he would claim this it should have been sorted by now. 

[Saughton Jambo]

6 minutes ago, Boris5115 said:

Only quoting what was said by the guide pal. I read others saying the same thing. Regardless true or not and if not true I can't understand for the life of me why he would claim this it should have been sorted by now. 

I’m not doubting you or others mate and I’ve no reason not to believe you as it’s been stated by a few posters on here. It’s a disgrace we have accepted this if I’m honest.

 

I got a chance to examine this piece of history in person and carefully looked at this on my hand and knees for about an hour. I also touched every piece and made notes as to the roughness, where it’s damaged and the smoothness of the pieces unaffected. I also looked at this  from more than one angle.  I made enquires of my own back as how this could be repaired and restored and spoke with tile manufacturers about restoration and the process of cleaning and the re-sealing of our icon. 
 

I was also told our icon hadn’t been deliberately sabotaged,  so like you I can only state what I was told. The damage though isn’t permanent and can be rectified if the correct measures are put in place.
 

I feel the club though have other more important issues to address at the moment. Possibly when arbitration is over, maybe the museum staff will take the appropriate measures to address this and set the wheels in motion. Wouldn’t do any harm for a statement from the museum to ask for donations to help clean and restore this. 

[Boris5115]

Whatever the reason its in this condition it was like this long before Covid started playing havoc to life as we know it. Defo should have been sorted by now. I would hope that by not dealing with it sooner it won't deteriorate further and make the restoration more difficult. 

[kila]

Can add cleaning the mosaic to the same list that has painting the stand walls maroon

[Fun Boaby]

I got the impression it was more that the builders didn't give a shit rather than a deliberate sabotage. Regardless, they were negligent and the rectification costs should be borne by them, or most likely their Public Liability insurers

[Boris5115]

6 minutes ago, kila said:

Can add cleaning the mosaic to the same list that has painting the stand walls maroon

Add some new white anti slip paint to the stepps too. Fed up slipping in the Wheatfield. 

[Cruyff]

Why wasn't that Mosiac covered with glass or clear epoxy? 🤔 

[Cruickshank for Scotland]

5 hours ago, Fun Boaby said:

I got the impression it was more that the builders didn't give a shit rather than a deliberate sabotage. Regardless, they were negligent and the rectification costs should be borne by them, or most likely their Public Liability insurers

The architect and club were negligent in that they did not ensure the mosaic was protected properly. 

[Cruickshank for Scotland]

6 hours ago, Boris5115 said:

I was on the stadium tour October 2019 and the tour guide defo said that it was sabotage on the builders behalf claiming that they must have been hibs fans. That aside I can't believe it's not be restored to its former glory by now. As we are on the Hybrid Pitch thread does anyone know if its had the top chopped off yet. 

The tour guide was talking nonsense.

[Boris5115]

6 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

The tour guide was talking nonsense.

Strong statement Cruicky. Why would he be telling porkies and what makes you so sure about this. 

 

[Jambo61]

Maybe Historic Scotland could advise, sure the Romans did something similar for us!