Hybrid Pitch

[Rabgee]

The pitch was awful and so was the team. At least the pitch will improve as the season goes on.

[ZanderMIM]

Down at the corner between the roseburn and main stand it was just sand/mud there’s no grass going to grow back there anytime soon, What happened to “it will be back to normal in a few days” 😂😂

[Smith's right boot]

The pitch looked like two pitches. 

 

One half like Wembley, the other like most other Scottish league sides. 

 

Played absolutely fine, tho. 

 

Be perfect in a week as the grass will go greener and grow back. It's good for that, grass is. We'll known for it, I believe. 

 

 

[Jamboelite]

35 minutes ago, McCrae said:

 

The club is looking more and more like  H1b5 under Farmer...lots of nice things off the pitch, but a honking 1st team.

It was a pretty stupid decision to host a concert just before the start of the season. Pitch won’t recover this year.

Wont recover this year ffs thats a belter.

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Whatever said:

 

I have no idea when it will return to its previous state. I do know that it needs some serious work done on it.

 

A million pound investment on a pitch to then consciously put its integrity in question, for however long, is pretty dumb.

 

 

 

If needs an opportunity to grow again.    If has three weeks to recover.    If necessary if can be seeded.     Nothing more than that.

 

I assume you know that grass grows,   especially during the summer months?    

People are embarrassing themselves over this.    Or would be if they had one iota of self awareness.

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Whatever said:

 

I have no idea when it will return to its previous state. I do know that it needs some serious work done on it.

 

A million pound investment on a pitch to then consciously put its integrity in question, for however long, is pretty dumb.

 

 

 

If needs an opportunity to grow again.    If has three weeks to recover.    If necessary if can be seeded.     Nothing more than that.

 

I assume you know that grass grows,   especially during the summer months?    

People are embarrassing themselves over this.    Or would be if they had one iota of self awareness.

[jambomjm74]

£1m tattie field, half covered in sand 

100k on cctv

revolving door recruitment

root 1 hoofball

zero goals in the team

old crocks retirement home

zero commitment as players are so fragile

a totally eratic goal keeper 

a club where the Dof is the manager and unsackable despite results and performance and grotesque levels of underperformance

cannot remember our last league win ...

sorry didn’t know where to post ... as so many issues.

Coming to the conclusion that we are indeed “in the wrong hands”...

 

 

[davemclaren]

I don’t think the pitch impacted the result. 

[Sir Gio]

If I was the groundsman I would have handed my notice in. 

As fine as the concert was,  that was unacceptable. 

Apologies to the person I berated earlier in the thread,  never did I expect such a shambles 

[jambomjm74]

Just now, davemclaren said:

I don’t think the pitch impacted the result. 

The amount of sand might have saved us, the guy who took the pen needed a spade to level it out....

[munro9]

Ridiculous decision to use the ground as a venue for a concert so soon before the opening day of the season.

Hearts fans once again seen as an after thought.

 

[davemclaren]

2 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said:

The amount of sand might have saved us, the guy who took the pen needed a spade to level it out....

The guy took a crap penalty. 

[Cruickshank for Scotland]

Shocked by the state of the pitch. The grass looks dead and it looks like Gullane beach in parts! 

That does not look like it will recover any time soon!

[Smith's right boot]

4 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said:

The amount of sand might have saved us, the guy who took the pen needed a spade to level it out....

 

Shite, he hit the post. 

 

 

[fabienleclerq]

8 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

I don’t think the pitch impacted the result. 

 

I don't think you'll find many disagreeing, it is in some state after a significant investment though. 

[McCrae]

13 minutes ago, Jamboelite said:

Wont recover this year ffs thats a belter.

 

If we were heading into the summer and the pitch was going to be left alone you have a point.

 

Some areas of the pitch have no grass and will take a long time to recover. Playing on it every 2 weeks will cause further damage and will delay recovery. The growing season is past its peak and will soon be over. 

 

 

[Sooperstar]

37 minutes ago, Cygnet said:

 

I’m just making a point that the pitch didn’t make one jot of difference to our performance today. Yes it was really poor, but the team were even worse. 

But both can be criticised exclusive of each other, yeah?

[Sooperstar]

37 minutes ago, Cygnet said:

 

I’m just making a point that the pitch didn’t make one jot of difference to our performance today. Yes it was really poor, but the team were even worse. 

But both can be criticised exclusive of each other, yeah?

[Swanny17]

Just now, Sooperstar said:

But both can be criticised exclusive of each other, yeah?

 

Of course! 👍

[McCrae]

36 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every game and practice will damage the pitch further and will require further time to recover.

 

Its not something that can be fixed in a couple of weeks. It takes a lot longer than you think.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2019 by McCrae

[graygo]

Just now, McCrae said:

 

Do you understand that grass doesn’t grow well all year and that the growing season only has a few weeks left? 

Every game and practice will damage the pitch and will require further time to recover.

 

Do you understand that we won't be on that pitch for another 3 weeks and it is prime growing time just now.

 

The pitch will be fine.

[Whatever]

23 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

If needs an opportunity to grow again.    If has three weeks to recover.    If necessary if can be seeded.     Nothing more than that.

 

I assume you know that grass grows,   especially during the summer months?    

People are embarrassing themselves over this.    Or would be if they had one iota of self awareness.

 

Such attitude. 🤣

 

Lower section N today and I can assure you there was nothing in patches. Re seeding job required.

 

Of course it will be worked on and may return to its former glory but the pitch was disgraceful today.

 

To compromise the pitch in such a way doesn’t sit well.

[Nobreath]

13 minutes ago, McCrae said:

 

The growing season is past its peak and will soon be over. 

 

 

 

Grass will continue to grow as long as the temperature is above 5°c.  We should be fine until mid November.

[Sir Gio]

Part of the masterplan. Put as much shit on it as possible,  fertilised and back to full condition. 

 

Sorted 

[Smith's right boot]

30 minutes ago, McCrae said:

 

If we were heading into the summer and the pitch was going to be left alone you have a point.

 

Some areas of the pitch have no grass and will take a long time to recover. Playing on it every 2 weeks will cause further damage and will delay recovery. The growing season is past its peak and will soon be over. 

 

 

 

 

Maybe, but we'll use artificial means to grow and maintain it. 

 

[Guffers]

48 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

If needs an opportunity to grow again.    If has three weeks to recover.    If necessary if can be seeded.     Nothing more than that.

 

I assume you know that grass grows,   especially during the summer months?    

People are embarrassing themselves over this.    Or would be if they had one iota of self awareness.

 

I think that's completely missing the point. We are a football club. That's the point of our existence. The quality of the playing surface is an important aspect of our home advantage. I can't imagine many other clubs doing that to the playing surface a week before the league season kicks off. Absolutely bonkers and it almost suggests (rightly or wrongly) that AB puts the 'brand' and the standing of the club in the community and Edinburgh (as important as that is) ahead of the football (or the 'football department' as some tossers would call it). Having said all that, I'm not sure if affected the shite performance lol.. worrying though that we  even consider putting the football side second

[SpikeDudley]

The state of the pitch is actually a perfect metaphor for Hearts at the moment in that the product on the pitch seems to be the least important thing

[1971fozzy]

I’m actually embarrassed that I criticised the pitch.

the product today was not deserving of a pitch that’s even half decent. Take all the money you can get Ann Budge whilst that wage thief is in charge in the dugout

[jonnothejambo]

49 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

I don’t think the pitch impacted the result. 

 

We have more to be concerned about than the playing surface if today is anything to go by.

[Nookie Bear]

I suspect the state of the pitch was worse than expected and that we will not be hosting such an event so close to the season kick off next year. 

 

Of course, we will need to arrange any events around Europe...

[McCrae]

54 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Maybe, but we'll use artificial means to grow and maintain it. 

 

 

Hope I am wrong, but isn’t it a farce. 

[stan]

5 hours ago, Scnorthedinburgh said:

Did you Wembley last year when spurs played 7 days after a NFL game? The pitch was shocking.

7 days after that it was fine.

It's not like the old pitch was perfect.

What? The pitch was perfect before the concert.

[Smith's right boot]

1 minute ago, McCrae said:

 

Hope I am wrong, but isn’t it a farce. 

 

 

The grass will be fine. 

 

A bit discolour for 2 weeks or so is OK by me for £100k.

We're not back on it for 3 weeks I think, it will be fine and not worthy of a debate imo. 

 

Played OK, but did look shite. 

 

Should have painted it green, would have saved the fan and media meltdown as it would have looked perfect. 

 

 

[stan]

5 hours ago, Sooperstar said:

The indignation when someone throws a flare on our £1m pitch. Then covering it with a ****ing stage and seating a week before the season starts. Hypocrisy at its finest. And indefensible.

Spot on. Hopefully the improved CCTV identifies the culprits. 

 

Watched the the game again on alba and have to say both pitch and performance looked even worse 2nd time around.

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

It looked like that part of the pitch was covered for too long before the concert. I wonder what kind of dialogue was carried out with the organisers of the concert and the ground staff. It should be fine before the next game but it made today's game a game of two half's so to speak. We were rubbish in both parts though. 

[Gizmo]

54 minutes ago, Guffers said:

 

I think that's completely missing the point. We are a football club. That's the point of our existence. The quality of the playing surface is an important aspect of our home advantage. I can't imagine many other clubs doing that to the playing surface a week before the league season kicks off. Absolutely bonkers and it almost suggests (rightly or wrongly) that AB puts the 'brand' and the standing of the club in the community and Edinburgh (as important as that is) ahead of the football (or the 'football department' as some tossers would call it). Having said all that, I'm not sure if affected the shite performance lol.. worrying though that we  even consider putting the football side second

If Levein was doing his job better, no one would be questioning Budge. A bit of discolouration on the pitch would always be worth the trade-off of improving brand/Tynecastle's reputation as a venue as this is absolutely the way we build the club to provide more for the team. 

More hiring of Tynecastle, more money into the club and ultimately a better team*. That massively improved turnover did not happen by accident and is exactly why we should not let anger at our ineptitude on the pitch spill over to blaming every single aspect of the club. It's akin to shooting the chairman of Frankie & Bennys or Nandos because the last two times you ate in their Fort Kinnaird restaurant the food was shit. 

*Always assuming the manager uses those resources well

[Jambof3tornado]

2 hours ago, Rabgee said:

The pitch was awful and so was the team. At least the pitch will improve as the season goes on.

Pitch wasnt awful. Ball ran fine on it.

 

The team just chose to lump it to save wearing it out any more.

[Jarhead]

The photos posted on here don’t do justice to how bad a condition the pitch is in on the main stand side. 

[GavK1012]

I couldnt take my eyes off of it today...tbf its better than watching us on the park but it has to be said, whoever sanctioned the gig should be marched out of Tynie never to return....is an absolute disgrace to treat that pitch as we have having invested so much to get a surface the envy of most....

Edited August 10, 2019 by GavK1012

[McCrae]

42 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

If Levein was doing his job better, no one would be questioning Budge. A bit of discolouration on the pitch would always be worth the trade-off of improving brand/Tynecastle's reputation as a venue as this is absolutely the way we build the club to provide more for the team. 

More hiring of Tynecastle, more money into the club and ultimately a better team*. That massively improved turnover did not happen by accident and is exactly why we should not let anger at our ineptitude on the pitch spill over to blaming every single aspect of the club. It's akin to shooting the chairman of Frankie & Bennys or Nandos because the last two times you ate in their Fort Kinnaird restaurant the food was shit. 

*Always assuming the manager uses those resources well

 

Is that massive increase in turnover  not largely down to FOH contributions?

 

We are a football club and our priority has to be on that. it all sounds wonderful the idea of money coming in from events, but if we play well and end up in Europe  we won’t be able to host any event.  At most we can probably host a couple of events a year. Do we really want to damage our pitch for that!

 

We will make more money if we are successful on the park than we ever will by hosting the odd concert.

Edited August 10, 2019 by McCrae

[Hectormasson]

2 hours ago, munro9 said:

Ridiculous decision to use the ground as a venue for a concert so soon before the opening day of the season.

Hearts fans once again seen as an after thought.

 

Bang on m8 👏👏👏👏👏

[indianajones]

Lots of grass experts on kickback it seems...

[Away up in Gorgie]

2 hours ago, Sir Gio said:

Part of the masterplan. Put as much shit on it as possible,  fertilised and back to full condition. 

 

Sorted 

 

I’m unclear if you are talking about what  the groundsman has put on the pitch or the team Levein has put on it. 

[Voiceofreasonfortheseason]

3 hours ago, jambomjm74 said:

£1m tattie field, half covered in sand 

100k on cctv

revolving door recruitment

root 1 hoofball

zero goals in the team

old crocks retirement home

zero commitment as players are so fragile

a totally eratic goal keeper 

a club where the Dof is the manager and unsackable despite results and performance and grotesque levels of underperformance

cannot remember our last league win ...

sorry didn’t know where to post ... as so many issues.

Coming to the conclusion that we are indeed “in the wrong hands”...

 

 

This post almost started like that rant in that HIV Hibs film Trainspotting "Choose Life". Good post though agree with it all.

[19/05/2012]

First time i have actually seen the pitch cut up. At least it will have two weeks to recover

[Cruickshank for Scotland]

3 hours ago, McCrae said:

 

If we were heading into the summer and the pitch was going to be left alone you have a point.

 

Some areas of the pitch have no grass and will take a long time to recover. Playing on it every 2 weeks will cause further damage and will delay recovery. The growing season is past its peak and will soon be over. 

 

 

 

Spot on!!  All the shit “it’s ok the grass is just a bit yellow!” - whole areas look dead and cut up within minutes. It looked bad at the game and really looked awful on Alba.

 

[Cruickshank for Scotland]

3 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

If needs an opportunity to grow again.    If has three weeks to recover.    If necessary if can be seeded.     Nothing more than that.

 

I assume you know that grass grows,   especially during the summer months?    

People are embarrassing themselves over this.    Or would be if they had one iota of self awareness.

 

The pitch was an embarrassment for our first league game of the season!

Lets review your optimism in 3 weeks.

[Super_Hans]

1 hour ago, GavK1012 said:

I couldnt take my eyes off of it today...tbf its better than watching us on the park but it has to be said, whoever sanctioned the gig should be marched out of Tynie never to return....is an absolute disgrace to treat that pitch as we have having invested so much to get a surface the envy of most....

Spot on.

That half of the pitch was an absolute disgrace. Played like an MK1 astroturf from the 80s. You could tell the players weren't comfortable on it.

[ExPatTam]

Folk need to calm down a bit re the pitch. The £250k we got paid for the concert will far outweigh any remedial repairs. 

[Longshanks]

2 minutes ago, ExPatTam said:

Folk need to calm down a bit re the pitch. The £250k we got paid for the concert will far outweigh any remedial repairs. 

 

Thought we done it for free? or £100k? or £200k? and now a quarter of a million