Mikey1874 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 There’s a boy on LBC the now having an absolute breakdown about Brexit… Jeezy peeps 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: There’s a boy on LBC the now having an absolute breakdown about Brexit… Jeezy peeps 😂 Hopefully LBC clip it up. Some of the callers JO'b gets are brilliant (mostly for laughing at). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Hopefully LBC clip it up. Some of the callers JO'b gets are brilliant (mostly for laughing at). He really shouldve mocked this tube. Bloody hell man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: What about the PRO Brexit economist who predicted the end of UK car manufacturing in 2016 - and a price worth paying. 😂 Shame he's never invited on BBCQT. I'd pay money to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 12/05/2023 at 00:06, jack D and coke said: Britain is a Tory shitehole. Give it one term and labour are out again. Unfortunately that little arrangement suits Labour down to the ground and always has done. Much more interested in their five years in the limelight than in changing the outmoded electoral system which enables the kind of Tory (and very occasionally Labour) landslides which allow them to inflict the kind of unchallenged damage we’ve seen in the last decade or so. Starmer distancing himself from his previous comments about the electoral system as a general election approaches was the perfect illustration of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 The only good thing Brexit has done is bring to an end the careers of the clowns that promoted it Braverman next🤞🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Imagine all they’d had to do was move up here over the border… Probably still widnae cos we’re shite or something wibble, lies, fear, wibble.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Imagine all they’d had to do was move up here over the border… Probably still widnae cos we’re shite or something wibble, lies, fear, wibble.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I mean look at this ridiculous *****… Still on tv…still got the brass neck… That stupid old ******* Widdcombe as well still slavering all over the shop Jesus Christ man… #nonceisland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: I mean look at this ridiculous *****… Still on tv…still got the brass neck… That stupid old ******* Widdcombe as well still slavering all over the shop Jesus Christ man… #nonceisland That's JKB Britnat platoon. An utter brass neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 hours ago, leginten said: Unfortunately that little arrangement suits Labour down to the ground and always has done. Much more interested in their five years in the limelight than in changing the outmoded electoral system which enables the kind of Tory (and very occasionally Labour) landslides which allow them to inflict the kind of unchallenged damage we’ve seen in the last decade or so. Starmer distancing himself from his previous comments about the electoral system as a general election approaches was the perfect illustration of this. Struggling you see why this is a Labour /Starmer problem : it's almost like the UK didn't have a referendum in 2011 on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Struggling you see why this is a Labour /Starmer problem : it's almost like the UK didn't have a referendum in 2011 on the matter. Maybe ask again. This time folk may/might know a bit more about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Maybe ask again. This time folk may/might know a bit more about it. Why ? There's no clamour for PR. Even if there was, why's it a Labour /Starmer issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Why ? There's no clamour for PR. Even if there was, why's it a Labour /Starmer issue ? What, why seek more accurate representation in parliament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: What, why seek more accurate representation in parliament? what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: what ? WHAT, WHY SEEK MORE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION IN PARLIAMENT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: WHAT, WHY SEEK MORE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION IN PARLIAMENT? WHY IS IT AN ISSUE FOR STARMER ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: WHY IS IT AN ISSUE FOR STARMER ? That doesn't make sense with the post you were replying to. 46 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Maybe ask again. This time folk may/might know a bit more about it. 25 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Why ? There's no clamour for PR. Even if there was, why's it a Labour /Starmer issue ? You weren't asking "why ask again?" in that first line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 There was no big clamour to the leave the European Union either. This time no one will believe a word the Tory say. Well except, you know, the goose-stepping academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 10 hours ago, jack D and coke said: #nonceisland 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Aw bad news for our comrades - damn it ! During a press conference in London, IMF managing director hailed UK authorities for taking “decisive and responsible steps in recent months”. The UK economy is now expected to grow by 0.4% this year, not shrink by 0.3%, meaning it should do better than Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 8 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: Struggling you see why this is a Labour /Starmer problem : it's almost like the UK didn't have a referendum in 2011 on the matter. The 2011 referendum was a designed-to-fail affair offering a voting system nobody was campaigning for in the first place (and which the Electoral Reform Society specifically defines as not a form of proportional representation) on a date which nobody wanted because there were already other elections taking place on the same day. The Tories throwing a bone to their Lib Dem coalition partners so that the latter could tell their members with a straight face that something was actually being done. It’s a Labour/Starmer problem firstly because it’s difficult to know what Starmer meant when he said the issue of people in safe seats feeling their votes were wasted “has to be addressed” if he wasn’t talking about PR (or just bullshitting his way through the day), secondly because PR is supported by the Labour membership as expressed at Conference, and thirdly - and most importantly - because Labour are the only UK-wide party who can actually do anything to halt the endless cycle of two-thirds Tory, one-third Labour in power. The Tories obviously never will. And fourthly, of course, because it’s the right thing to do. FPTP is not fit for purpose. One Green MP for nearly a million votes? Why would people bother turning out? But the problem, as I said above, is that those at the top in Labour are more interested in their 15 minutes of fame than in doing anything for the long-term benefit of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, leginten said: The 2011 referendum was a designed-to-fail affair offering a voting system nobody was campaigning for in the first place (and which the Electoral Reform Society specifically defines as not a form of proportional representation) on a date which nobody wanted because there were already other elections taking place on the same day. The Tories throwing a bone to their Lib Dem coalition partners so that the latter could tell their members with a straight face that something was actually being done. It’s a Labour/Starmer problem firstly because it’s difficult to know what Starmer meant when he said the issue of people in safe seats feeling their votes were wasted “has to be addressed” if he wasn’t talking about PR (or just bullshitting his way through the day), secondly because PR is supported by the Labour membership as expressed at Conference, and thirdly - and most importantly - because Labour are the only UK-wide party who can actually do anything to halt the endless cycle of two-thirds Tory, one-third Labour in power. The Tories obviously never will. And fourthly, of course, because it’s the right thing to do. FPTP is not fit for purpose. One Green MP for nearly a million votes? Why would people bother turning out? But the problem, as I said above, is that those at the top in Labour are more interested in their 15 minutes of fame than in doing anything for the long-term benefit of the UK. So, it's not a "problem" then , it's an opportunity. For which there is zero public demand , other than on social media. The moment Starmer opens his mouth on PR will be the death knell for Labour winning the next GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Smithee said: That doesn't make sense with the post you were replying to. You weren't asking "why ask again?" in that first line? You're having some difficulty explaining why Labour should be proclaiming PR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: So, it's not a "problem" then , it's an opportunity. For which there is zero public demand , other than on social media. The moment Starmer opens his mouth on PR will be the death knell for Labour winning the next GE. What about the wishes expressed at Conference? Don’t they count? And what did Starmer mean when he said the issue “has to be addressed”? What’s the substance behind the comment? I’m not so sure why support for PR would be a turn-off for the electorate. Offer a decent system and I think there would be widespread support outside Tory circles. But Labour won’t offer it. Happy with the status quo. I was wrong about the one-third of the time in power, incidentally. Labour has been in power for 30 out of its 123 years in existence. A total of four Labour politicians have won a general election. And so it will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: You're having some difficulty explaining why Labour should be proclaiming PR ? Do you think I'm someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 10 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Always wondered what happened to angry man off Steve Wright radio show 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) On 24/05/2023 at 00:43, periodictabledancer said: Why ? There's no clamour for PR. Even if there was, why's it a Labour /Starmer issue ? Labour won't win(Pathetic considering)a majority, so they better make their it issue if they want the libdems backup. Edited June 3, 2023 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Why would changing the voting system lose labour the general election. Absolute nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 More BJ details on that ‘fabulous’ trade deal with Oz. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-australia-deal-b2350229.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, WorldChampions1902 said: More BJ details on that ‘fabulous’ trade deal with Oz. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-australia-deal-b2350229.html I've said it about Trump, and I'll say it about that waste of oxygen Johnson. The single most important qualification to lead a country is that you shouldn't be a ****ing traitor to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ulysses said: I've said it about Trump, and I'll say it about that waste of oxygen Johnson. The single most important qualification to lead a country is that you shouldn't be a ****ing traitor to it. And yet, the number of absolute cretins that still want this imposter to lead the country is absolutely staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Ulysses said: I've said it about Trump, and I'll say it about that waste of oxygen Johnson. The single most important qualification to lead a country is that you shouldn't be a ****ing traitor to it. Imagine, anyone from "the left" hanging out with a guy who's got impeccable KGB connections and attending dubious parties at his gaffe in Italy. Or playing games of tennis with the wife of a known Putin minister. An absolute whore of a man who will do / say anything for personal enrichment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 "Brexit dividend" strikes again - https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/eurostar-amsterdam-rotterdam-stop-trains-2024-b2351384.html On the day on which Eurostar’s final Disneyland Paris train from London departs, it has emerged that the cross-Channel rail company could be forced to stop running trains from London to both Rotterdam and Amsterdam for almost a year because of work being carried out on the station in the Dutch capital. Unless a solution can be found, it will see the Eurostar network reduced from a pre-Brexit total of 13 year-round stations to just four: London, Lille, Paris and Brussels. At 10.34am on Monday, the final Eurostar “Disneyland Express” will depart from London St Pancras International. The direct high-speed rail link to the heart of the theme park east of Paris has been running since 1996, except for a pause during the Covid crisis. But Eurostar is now ending the service because of extra red tape brought in as a result of Brexit. The UK government negotiated for British passport holders to become “third-country nationals” – with a hard European Union frontier installed at St Pancras station for outbound passengers. The design of the Eurostar London terminal never envisaged that checks would involve stamping passports – and, from next year, taking fingerprints and facial biometrics from UK travellers to the EU. These checks vastly increase the time taken for each passenger, and therefore the space needed Eurostar is capping passenger numbers on trains because of the sheer physical constraints of its terminals. The extra bureaucracy arising from the decision to leave the European Union has led to the continued closure of two stations in Kent: Ebbsfleet and Ashford International. They shut down as the Covid pandemic took hold, but Eurostar will not reopen them until 2025 at the earliest – after the planned entry-exit system for the EU is implemented. The direct train from London St Pancras to Lyon, Avignon and Marseille has been dropped. Calais-Frethun station, serving the French port, is also mothballed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Mortgage rates up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jack D and coke Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Mortgage rates up again. Wtf are the BOE doing? The savings rates aren’t going anywhere. Still laughably about 0.1%. More free money to the banks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 20 hours ago, Ulysses said: I've said it about Trump, and I'll say it about that waste of oxygen Johnson. The single most important qualification to lead a country is that you shouldn't be a ****ing traitor to it. As he’s an outsider I wonder what his opinion is of the Human Race. Our resident “Village Idiot” loves him. Weird behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 21:26, periodictabledancer said: "Brexit dividend" strikes again - https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/eurostar-amsterdam-rotterdam-stop-trains-2024-b2351384.html On the day on which Eurostar’s final Disneyland Paris train from London departs, it has emerged that the cross-Channel rail company could be forced to stop running trains from London to both Rotterdam and Amsterdam for almost a year because of work being carried out on the station in the Dutch capital. Unless a solution can be found, it will see the Eurostar network reduced from a pre-Brexit total of 13 year-round stations to just four: London, Lille, Paris and Brussels. At 10.34am on Monday, the final Eurostar “Disneyland Express” will depart from London St Pancras International. The direct high-speed rail link to the heart of the theme park east of Paris has been running since 1996, except for a pause during the Covid crisis. But Eurostar is now ending the service because of extra red tape brought in as a result of Brexit. The UK government negotiated for British passport holders to become “third-country nationals” – with a hard European Union frontier installed at St Pancras station for outbound passengers. The design of the Eurostar London terminal never envisaged that checks would involve stamping passports – and, from next year, taking fingerprints and facial biometrics from UK travellers to the EU. These checks vastly increase the time taken for each passenger, and therefore the space needed Eurostar is capping passenger numbers on trains because of the sheer physical constraints of its terminals. The extra bureaucracy arising from the decision to leave the European Union has led to the continued closure of two stations in Kent: Ebbsfleet and Ashford International. They shut down as the Covid pandemic took hold, but Eurostar will not reopen them until 2025 at the earliest – after the planned entry-exit system for the EU is implemented. The direct train from London St Pancras to Lyon, Avignon and Marseille has been dropped. Calais-Frethun station, serving the French port, is also mothballed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) As above Eurostar decided not to put in the big passport checking facilities. Edited June 18, 2023 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: As above Eurostar decided not to put in the big passport checking facilities. Or the biometric facilities they'd need for later this year. They knew what they were voting for 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Or the biometric facilities they'd need for later this year. They knew what they were voting for 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Or the biometric facilities they'd need for later this year. They knew what they were voting for 😎 Excellent news. I'm struggling to understand what these gullible idiots are actually moaning about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Good grief. And plenty of these imbeciles live among us and still hold similar views, despite Brexit now proven to be an utter disaster. Never mind. More food inflation to look forward to in the Autumn, which will be down to the war in Ukraine and COVID as per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: He's just your average thick-as-shit tory/Labour/unionist/brexit supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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