world_3 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, WeeChuck'sHeed said: tbf, I think this, but limited v top end EPL, not limited for where he is. He is at a very good level, but I think v Robertson/ Teirny for example he is limited. but that's, not a criticism, nothing wrong with the level he is at. Hopefully he scores a few goals, maybe even 1 high profile goal, see him going for £15m give or take in Jan. Not bad for being limited! Limited players are going for £20m down there...... He's no where near Robertson's level, but he's done far more in his career than Tierney. Playing for Celtic at the moment is like playing for Real Madrid if Barcelona went bust, or vice versa - a walk in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, benny said: I know Callum asked for a sell on clause but did Cardiff agree to the 15% for definite. Link confirms we definitely got a sell-on clause. Doesn't confirm it was 15% but it has been said often. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/neil-warnock-hearts-get-sell-on-clause-in-callum-paterson-deal-1-4468817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: Link confirms we definitely got a sell-on clause. Doesn't confirm it was 15% but it has been said often. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/neil-warnock-hearts-get-sell-on-clause-in-callum-paterson-deal-1-4468817 Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Watched the good man today against Burton. He came on for the last half an hour. Scored a decent goal from about 20 odd yards. The thing I noticed is he has bulked up even more. I think the phrase is proper unit? Temps didn't play for Burton because he is injured..........again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 20/07/2018 at 21:07, WeeChuck'sHeed said: tbf, I think this, but limited v top end EPL, not limited for where he is. He is at a very good level, but I think v Robertson/ Teirny for example he is limited. but that's, not a criticism, nothing wrong with the level he is at. Hopefully he scores a few goals, maybe even 1 high profile goal, see him going for £15m give or take in Jan. Not bad for being limited! Limited players are going for £20m down there...... He isn't full back now center mid for Cardiff. Still says he thinks he is a centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 If Paterson becomes a goal scoring threat from the centre of midfield in the EPL the hopefully one of the big teams will spend silly money on him. I'm talking £50 million +. Possibly a pipe dream but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: If Paterson becomes a goal scoring threat from the centre of midfield in the EPL the hopefully one of the big teams will spend silly money on him. I'm talking £50 million +. Possibly a pipe dream but you never know. £50m might seem a bit OTT, but when you look at some of the transfer fees in the EPL, if he can bang in 10+ goals from midfield, he could certainly attract > £20m. Looking ahead at the talent that is coming through our Academy, the real return on our investment might not come from the initial transfer fees we achieve when we eventually sell the best prospects to an English club, but from the sell-on clauses if these guys go on to achieve good things down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Notts1874 said: Watched the good man today against Burton. He came on for the last half an hour. Scored a decent goal from about 20 odd yards. The thing I noticed is he has bulked up even more. I think the phrase is proper unit? Temps didn't play for Burton because he is injured..........again. He's becoming a brilliant player. I'm quite sure he'll do himself proud next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepp's Bladder Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Notts1874 said: Watched the good man today against Burton. He came on for the last half an hour. Scored a decent goal from about 20 odd yards. The thing I noticed is he has bulked up even more. I think the phrase is proper unit? Temps didn't play for Burton because he is injured..........again. Shame. He was becoming a bit of a 1/2 trick pony. Although the hun move- in my opinion helped us - would love to have seen him kick on. Injuries may define his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 20/07/2018 at 22:06, dryJTlaw said: And to think some Hibs pals think he's limited !!!! Hibs most successful player in 2 generations is Lewis Stephenson. I shall not waste time typing anymore than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Cardiff play Newcastle at home on the 18th Aug, 12:30 SS1. Will be a good watch! Though league cup last 16 that weekend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 On the bench today, hopefully comes on and scores the winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Don’t think he played all that well last week. Hopefully gets on and makes an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 This game is of poor quality. Both these teams need to improve to stay in the league. Kenedy should have been booked for that kick out...oh wait it isn't Scottish football so should have been a red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Was gonna say before, if anyone fancies a whinge about the standard of English football then this should be a good one to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Cardiff must be the worst team to watch on TV. Terrible stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, benny said: Cardiff must be the worst team to watch on TV. Terrible stuff. Attritional. Makes Levein's away games last year look like Barca. Not sure it bodes well go CP. Or us for that matter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 How absolutely Tom tit was that, I mean, these teams get bloody gazillions of cash compared to us and that was rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Carragher sneaked back on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Our game last week was way ahead of this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Paterson on for the last 7 mins, time for a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, benny said: Cardiff must be the worst team to watch on TV. Terrible stuff. They're excruciating. It’ll be a short stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Haha Kenedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Penalty miss sums the game up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Penalty miss sums the game up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japanjambo Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Awful penalty. Should have let Muto take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japanjambo Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Awful penalty. Should have let Muto take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehibsareintheirbeds Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Another point for Cardiff yesterday but going to be a long season. Good wee BBC clip featuring the man himself https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45310961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, thehibsareintheirbeds said: Another point for Cardiff yesterday but going to be a long season. Good wee BBC clip featuring the man himself https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45310961 Nice vid. He’s actually a real grown up man now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, thehibsareintheirbeds said: Another point for Cardiff yesterday but going to be a long season. Good wee BBC clip featuring the man himself https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45310961 Just watched him on this mornings edition of Match of 5 Day. Pleasing to see how much he has matured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, thehibsareintheirbeds said: Another point for Cardiff yesterday but going to be a long season. Good wee BBC clip featuring the man himself https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45310961 Hopefully he can kick on into the team. Thought he contributed well yesterday from the highlights I saw. Really want him to do well in the premier league. That video was great, thought he spoke really well and sounded mature. And it shows his personality and ability really rubs off on the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I'd love to see Callum back some day, before he's in his 30's. ! I wish him well down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: Hopefully he can kick on into the team. Thought he contributed well yesterday from the highlights I saw. Really want him to do well in the premier league. That video was great, thought he spoke really well and sounded mature. And it shows his personality and ability really rubs off on the fans. I think he’s going to struggle for game time this season. Said this last season but from HMFC sell on point of view I think it would have been better if Cardiff had stayed in the Championship and CP has another 10-12 goal season. Doesn’t look like he’s going to be a first pick in midfield and Warnock doesn’t rate him as a RB. Even if does play regularly Cardiff aren’t going to score many goals this season. Edited August 26, 2018 by Fozzyonthefence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Paterson’s lid looking nice and sharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 He is back in today's Cardiff team for their match with Burnley. Hopefully he plays well and gets to keep his place again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVB Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Think Cardiff have missed him. They have bought some good players but none have the X factor that Paterson had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Cardiff 0-0 Burnley Just seen it again and Cardiff should have scored from that corner. It fell to Callum Paterson and he mistimed his jump, fluffed his header and it was an easy clearance off the line for Matej Vydra. If he had just waited for the ball to come to him he woudl have buried that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bauld said: Cardiff 0-0 Burnley Just seen it again and Cardiff should have scored from that corner. It fell to Callum Paterson and he mistimed his jump, fluffed his header and it was an easy clearance off the line for Matej Vydra. If he had just waited for the ball to come to him he woudl have buried that... Backed him @ 11/2 to score anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkabalaJam Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The step up to the Champioship wad achievable for him. Premiership a whole different ball game! Would have preferred that Cardiff stayed down and he looked like more of a star from a selfless perspective, might have got that move. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16907331.hearts-maybe-heading-to-hampden-after-cracker/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Former Hearts defender has found life in Premier League tough with Cardiff DESPITE having a breakthrough season with Cardiff in the English Championship last season, Callum Paterson has found life in the Premier League a little trickier than he may have hoped for. The Scotland international was famously moved from full-back in to midfield last season when his manager, Neil Warnock, declared that “he can’t defend” yet this summer the club have spent a fortune revamping their midfield and so Paterson has had to accept a less pivotal role in the side. Ahead of today’s clash with Burnley, Paterson has only played 200 minutes from a possible 630 for Cardiff and although that may seem like the former Hearts star has been demoted to the bench, there is some reason behind Warnock’s decision to chop and change last season’s team. In the summer the Welsh side spent just under £30 million on recruits, which included central, attacking midfielder Bobby Reid from Bristol City as well as midfielders Harry Arter and Víctor Camarasa on loan from Bournemouth and Real Betis respectively, each of whom has taken a bite out of what Paterson brought to Cardiff in the previous campaign. As Warnock has previously stated, despite his size and physique Paterson isn’t one for the more delicate, defensive side of the game and the Scot has been benched against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City for players like Arter or Joe Ralls that can protect Cardiff’s back line. Paterson has averaged just 0.33 tackles per 90 minutes this season, which is half as many as Ralls’ average of 0.67 and nowhere near Arter’s average of two per 90 minutes. Similarly, the Scotland international’s average of roughly 3.18 interceptions per game in the Premier League falls short of Ralls and Arter’s once again. Paterson is a gifted player but Warnock simply has better, defensive players on hand for such matches. Unfortunately for Paterson, the defensive side of his game isn’t the only issue that has limited his playing time. On top of that, the 23-year-old simply isn’t a careful, curator of passes and compared to some of his new team-mates, he can look blunt and reckless on the ball. When put alongside the two, aforementioned defensive midfielders as well as Reid and Camarasa, Paterson currently averages the least amount of passes per Premier League game with just 17.21. In comparison new loan signing, Camarasa, currently averages almost twice as many with 37.62 despite playing in an almost identical role to the Scot. The midfielder is also once again bottom of the pile when it comes to accuracy. Arter and Camarasa’s averages tend to push towards 90 per cent in each Premier League game, while Reid and Ralls aren’t far behind with 79.06 and 71.92 per cent respectively. Yet Paterson’s sits at just 57.85 per cent. Of course, anyone that has seen Paterson play would say the player’s strengths have never been his passing accuracy or defensive acumen. His raw, attacking ability to find goals and win aerial duels is undoubtedly an asset in a team that has scored only six goals from their opening seven games. Indeed, that is why Warnock has started Paterson in winnable games against the likes of Bournemouth and Huddersfield. Yet what may have seemed brave and pragmatic each week in the Championship or Scottish Premiership now seems reckless for a club hoping to minimise as many risks as possible in the Premier League. For Warnock’s side, who have just two points from their opening six games, Paterson is often exactly that - a risk. And for the time being he may continue to be overlooked for smarter or more defensive midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Pretty scathing article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, Dallas Green said: Pretty scathing article. Anyone who watched CP up here and knew anything about fitba, could have written that article a long time ago. Yet, a few people (inc me) were ridiculed on here for not knowing anything about fitba for suggesting that he would never be an EPL player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Seemed to play really well yesterday by all accounts. Seen a stat he won all his arial battles and managed to play the full 90. Glad he seems to be back in the fold after being benched a lot lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Where is that article from? Edit: see now it's the Herald. It seems a really vindictive article tbh with a lot of research into making him look as poor as possible, and seems to overlook the fact that CP has gone from the Scottish Championship to the EPL in a couple of years and is still only 23. We all knew CP was limited to some extent but i am sure they could have written a more positive article had they wanted to. I wonder if that paper is looking as closely at Stuart Armstrong's contribution for Southampton (same number of appearances, i think). Edited October 1, 2018 by Nookie Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Anyone who watched CP up here and knew anything about fitba, could have written that article a long time ago. Yet, a few people (inc me) were ridiculed on here for not knowing anything about fitba for suggesting that he would never be an EPL player! You've given him a few months in an EPL team and written him off? Young players not able to learn things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Barack said: On-loan to Celtic soon... Or Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Seemed to play really well yesterday by all accounts. Seen a stat he won all his arial battles and managed to play the full 90. Glad he seems to be back in the fold after being benched a lot lately Winning arial battles is what he does best and if fitba was head tennis, he would be a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Where is that article from? By the look of it, hibs.net. Edited October 1, 2018 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Paterson was solid in that game yesterday, and even Match of the Day 2 pointed out his performance on several occasions. They made sure to point out that he had "won just about everything that's come his way". He could have scored a header that came to him completely unexpected, and his overhead kick could have been going anywhere before it hit the hand of the Burnley defender - and should have been a penalty. He also had several knock-on headers that ran through onto his teammates putting them through into goal scoring positions. That article above is nonsense, and Paterson might not win as many tackles as other players, but he sure as **** doesn't get beat in the air. His passing is also very good, and just from MoTD2 last night, there were several wide through balls from him that were exactly where they needed to be. He was one of the best on the pitch by the looks of things, which made for some happy watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnjambo16 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I watched him yesterday and he played ok . He played the 90 and won most of the aerial duals . He wasn’t the best and by no means the worst . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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