Cade Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 She's certainly fought an extemely poor campaign but is still likely to win with a majority of around 60. Her poor campaign will not have gone unnoticed within her own party and she will be under close scrutiny by them. Repeatedly saying "I have always been very clear that we need strong and stable leadership" ad nauseum will not save her forever. I can't think of any obvious candidate to replace her within her own party, but I'm sure someone will want the job. Osbourne come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Well, fair play to him. Tapped into something the Tories couldn't. Still a fecking roaster but then most politicians are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It can be and must be built on. Over to various PLP shithouses to get with the zeitgeist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 40% of the vote. Great result for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It can be and must be built on. Over to various PLP shithouses to get with the zeitgeist. Reading Owen Smith's remarks suggest this began last night. Dougie Alexander and Jack Straw - old stalwarts - being quite praising too. Think some people will be coming back into the fold shortly. Needs some better performers to win more middle of the road seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's went a wee bit quiet on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 My the old Shagger likes Emily's boobs [emoji7] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 My the old Shagger likes Emily's boobs [emoji7] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk went right for them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Unless Labour bin Corbyn they will never regain power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Unless Labour bin Corbyn they will never regain power This Labour have missed an open goal here by keeping Corbyn as their leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour lost by 50+ seats against May who messed up so bad yet Labour still think they did well.. that sort of thinking is why you lost. Not doing as badly as you feared is not doing well. As for May what a complete cluster !"?$$% she made of campaign, U turns, missing live debates, I think been former Home sec' hurt her as attacks over last month showed how police cuts have weakened them way too much. Good news is Sturgeon is going to be on back foot now, maybe more focus on all politics not just Indy ref will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 He lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This Labour have missed an open goal here by keeping Corbyn as their leader. 100.000% agreed. It's costing them my support for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Unless Labour bin Corbyn they will never regain power I think he'll be delighted and feel vindicated, he'll hang on to the leadership for a while yet, the Blairites lost the election and look set to loose thier party untill he goes or the party splits. I think, considering where he started, it's been a great night for him, it may be downhill from now but he's the only "winner" imo.Sturgeon and May lost what ever way you look at it, they may have the most votes and seats but they're both under the sward of damocles now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 went right for them, Awkward as **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This Labour have missed an open goal here by keeping Corbyn as their leader. He's going nowhere. Though as he's 68 he might not be around by the next GE (due to being too old to lead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Awkward as **** Aye, but he got a sneaky wee feel of a diffirent tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour lost by 50+ seats against May who messed up so bad yet Labour still think they did well.. that sort of thinking is why you lost. Not doing as badly as you feared is not doing well. As for May what a complete cluster !"?$$% she made of campaign, U turns, missing live debates, I think been former Home sec' hurt her as attacks over last month showed how police cuts have weakened them way too much. Good news is Sturgeon is going to be on back foot now, maybe more focus on all politics not just Indy ref will help. Of all the things you mentioned - correctly - the terrorist attacks were a real problem for May. They happened on her watch and the tories have traditionally been seen as tough on law and order. The police cuts would not have been mentioned otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Corbyn may well have peak in this election. This was an open goal as said elsewhere. The Tories still managed to stager over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This Labour have missed an open goal here by keeping Corbyn as their leader. That would push them back to Miliband results though. You'd lose the support of vast swathe of younger voters who backed him. They need to try and work out what went right and wrong before making rash leadership decisions. Brown and Miliband's quick departures hobbled their immediate response to the Tories as both times the party looked inward rather than attack the government and they, both times, were on the back foot on the deficit and Europe. Labour should take time to assess its next steps. Scottish gains and gains in England need to be reviewed and assessed to allow the party to figure out how to consolidate these gains and push from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaymarketJambo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I thought Corbyn was the star of the election and it's down to him that the Labour Party picked so many seats in Scotland and not Dugdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I thought Corbyn was the star of the election and it's down to him that the Labour Party picked so many seats in Scotland and not Dugdale. Totally agree. Dugdale is hopeless, spent too much time blabbing on about the SNP instead of talking about the Labour manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I thought Corbyn was the star of the election and it's down to him that the Labour Party picked so many seats in Scotland and not Dugdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Dugdale is at fault for allowing Mooth to dominate and draw in the anti-ref2 panic merchants. She has zero credibility and is not in a position to rely on the default position of high volume, guffawing and maniacal grinning enjoyed by the Mooth. Dugdale. A woman outflanked by vocal chords and over-active facial muscles, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Well done Corbyn, you stuck it up the Tories as far as you could and brutalised their majority. On another day who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Corbyn did virtually nothing but stand and watch others implode...May and the SNP disasters led to him looking good but he simply had an almost error free campaign without really saying much. The SNP in effect have given the Tories power allbeit limited at present...had they held on to just a couple more then it would have been a hung drawn and quartered parliament for May the bottler and the tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May knows no shame eh. And a wee search shows this; Ulster Resistance - Wikipedia Ulster Resistance (UR), or the Ulster Resistance Movement (URM),[1][2][3] is an Ulster loyalist paramilitary movement established by unionists in Northern Ireland on 10 November 1986 in opposition to the Anglo-Irish Agreement.[4] EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG And who could forget this just to even it up. Mind you May has also done a lucrative arms deal with the despot Saudi regime. Tories eh ,if it benefits them and their elite mates then its ok. But propping up your government with Ian Paisleys mob FFS. Strong and stable right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Dugdale is at fault for allowing Mooth to dominate and draw in the anti-ref2 panic merchants. She has zero credibility and is not in a position to rely on the default position of high volume, guffawing and maniacal grinning enjoyed by the Mooth. Dugdale. A woman outflanked by vocal chords and over-active facial muscles, Here's the irony. Dugdale and Davidson were both uncomfortable with the Westminster driven manifesto. Difference is Davidson got on with it and when pressed on policy she disagreed with she showed a very human side and spoke well without necessarily endorsing the policy particularly on the rape clause. Dugdale....failed miserably to remotely support anything Corbyn said. She then recklessly allowed Sturgeon to show her up as a liar live on TV. Not a chance Davidson would've fallen for that trap. Davidson won the seats for her party despite her horrific leader. Dugdale threw hers away luckily Corbyn had pulled enough people back to the party to register something on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Here's the irony. Dugdale and Davidson were both uncomfortable with the Westminster driven manifesto. Difference is Davidson got on with it and when pressed on policy she disagreed with she showed a very human side and spoke well without necessarily endorsing the policy particularly on the rape clause. Dugdale....failed miserably to remotely support anything Corbyn said. She then recklessly allowed Sturgeon to show her up as a liar live on TV. Not a chance Davidson would've fallen for that trap. Davidson won the seats for her party despite her horrific leader. Dugdale threw hers away luckily Corbyn had pulled enough people back to the party to register something on the board. Davidson is just a better politician and more intelligent. Dugdale has been exposed, again, as a lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Davidson is just a better politician and more intelligent. Dugdale has been exposed, again, as a lightweight. I agree with what you've said but I always feel sorry for Kezia Dugdale as she seems like a genuinely nice woman, but that doesn't cut in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I agree with what you've said but I always feel sorry for Kezia Dugdale as she seems like a genuinely nice woman, but that doesn't cut in politics. I think she has a surface credibility as a principled Labour person without any substance to underpin the soundbytes and rhetoric. She's a desperate liar as well. Hell mend her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The old rocker that he is, to think he will be made very welcome by 1000"s of music fans unlike a certain inhuman woman in number 10. 'It's bloody brilliant!' Michael Eavis on bringing Jeremy Corbyn to Glastonbury The Methodist farmer who founded the festival, and his daughter, reveal why they? THEGUARDIAN.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 He's going nowhere. Though as he's 68 he might not be around by the next GE (due to being too old to lead). This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I thought Corbyn was the star of the election and it's down to him that the Labour Party picked so many seats in Scotland and not Dugdale. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I agree with what you've said but I always feel sorry for Kezia Dugdale as she seems like a genuinely nice woman, but that doesn't cut in politics. Pretty much where I am. Time to move on for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Pretty much where I am. Time to move on for her. Tbf you said that about Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Tbf you said that about Corbyn. You're right. But I've seen Dugdale in 3 campaigns and this one showed her up more than the others. She was pretty much awol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 You're right. But I've seen Dugdale in 3 campaigns and this one showed her up more than the others. She was pretty much awol. Pity Diane Abbott could not have done the same.........a real example of someone unable to do their homework and unable to debate the topic Of course she's not got her job because she was once 'involved' with Corbyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 There's about 200 PLP members just waiting to knife him in the back. He ran a good campaign but he'll return to meek PMQs, backtracking on his fundamental beliefs and contributing nothing to Scotland but misinformed tosh that Kezia has dripped in his lug. Busted flush. Ever the optimist Hunky. Do you believe Ian Blackford will be much cop? Do you think his investment banker back ground serves a leftist approach from the SNP or confirms their ever ongoing drift to the right? I think this parliament will be defined by events outside of it and how the parties deal with that. As it is, all parties are playing catch-up with the public mood. Whoever starts to control that will probably come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Pity Diane Abbott could not have done the same.........a real example of someone unable to do their homework and unable to debate the topic Of course she's not got her job because she was once 'involved' with Corbyn Well. Given she's been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and she's been told it will have contributed to her poor performances. However, I do agree she's a weak link in shadow cabinet at such a high ranking post. However, I don't think that's purely down to her having been in a relationship with the leader years previous. It's more likely she didn't resign with the rest and was the best at the time... imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Is Corbyn Napoleon or Squealer? I can't decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Blackford is a disastrous choice. They should have went for Tommy. The SNP are becoming too managerial when it comes to the affairs of Scotland, there's no positive message, no wonder voters are leaving them in droves. Not often we'll agree but I think you're spot on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Cannot ever envisage May or even Cameron doing this. Mind you May and Cameron would and could not walk about in public the way Corbyn does, they would probably get lynched, tells you all you need to know about who resonates more with the ordinary man and woman. Its these little acts of kindness that show the true caliber of a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Cannot ever envisage May or even Cameron doing this. Mind you May and Cameron would and could not walk about in public the way Corbyn does, they would probably get lynched, tells you all you need to know about who resonates more with the ordinary man and woman. Its these little acts of kindness that show the true caliber of a person. Well of course they couldn't, for one their security detail wouldn't allow it in case some terrorists lynched them, if Corbyn were PM he wouldn't be allowed to just wander around either. Not knocking his gesture though, good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Aww, poor Tory MP Will Quince, diddums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Apparently Jeremy Corbyn said that he'll consider condemning Maduro if someone in the media has the guts to ask Theresa May to condemn the head-chopping, child-executing, sexist, homophobic, alleged war-crime commiting, dictatorial funders of ISIS; Saudi Arabia. We're not holding our breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Cannot ever envisage May or even Cameron doing this. Mind you May and Cameron would and could not walk about in public the way Corbyn does, they would probably get lynched, tells you all you need to know about who resonates more with the ordinary man and woman. Its these little acts of kindness that show the true caliber of a person. Nobody doubts He's personable on one level but his politics tend to be hysterical student stuff.And his keeping the company of terrorists is questionable. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Blackford is a disastrous choice. They should have went for Tommy. The SNP are becoming too managerial when it comes to the affairs of Scotland, there's no positive message, no wonder voters are leaving them in droves. The SNP have always been managerial in government. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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