Jammy T Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Fair enough - but this is a scenario where I kind of worry that Sevco might come along and offer him an extra grand a week before he signs...just because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Fair enough - but this is a scenario where I kind of worry that Sevco might come along and offer him an extra grand a week before he signs...just because... If they do they do.. Players have to fit into set criteria and I hope we stick to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-want-prince-buaben-to-prove-his-fitness-1-3469620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 As JJ and HMFC1874 have alluded to about Bauben signing next week i would thought that IF it is down to fitness he can't do a lot in a week surely to prove anything other than to knuckle down and do extra traing over and above the rest of the squad that would show his commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 According to Neilson we only need 1 more in. I hope this is mind games as we need more than 1 more signing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 1 more signing would be fine by me, no point in investing in the Academy only to keep blocking kids progress.............it's important the likes of Smith, Beith, McGhee and Oliver are on the fringes and don't stagnate. We now have a solid looking core in Alexander, Wilson, Alim and Gomis (El Hassni to come in soon) plus our talented youngsters like Paterson, Holt, Walker and Nicholson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendoll Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yet again, I'm impressed with the noises of our new management team. If you want to sign for us, you need to work hard and prove to us you can improve your fitness. I'm really enjoying the direction this club is heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressgang22 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think Neilson meant 1 more as in 1 more midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudiboy Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I can't see one more signing being enough. All it needs is a few injuries and we are thin on the ground. I thought someone posted here his reliable source said we were signing 4 more players?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 1 more signing would be fine by me, no point in investing in the Academy only to keep blocking kids progress.............it's important the likes of Smith, Beith, McGhee and Oliver are on the fringes and don't stagnate. We now have a solid looking core in Alexander, Wilson, Alim and Gomis (El Hassni to come in soon) plus our talented youngsters like Paterson, Holt, Walker and Nicholson. So who is going to play in goals if Alexander gets injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpos Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I can't see one more signing being enough. All it needs is a few injuries and we are thin on the ground. I thought someone posted here his reliable source said we were signing 4 more players?? We are still a bit skint don't forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Gomis is in the paper today saying both them where offered contracts at the same time and he hopes Prince Bauben does sign too. Either he's talking shite or it's a 2-way kind of trial at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think Neilson meant 1 more as in 1 more midfielder. Thats how I took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We won't be winning any league with the current squad and still need at least another 3. We let 5 first team players go ffs! One knock for Alexander and the goalkeeping situation would become farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We won't be winning any league with the current squad and still need at least another 3. We let 5 first team players go ffs! One knock for Alexander and the goalkeeping situation would become farcical. We won't be in any position to win the league with 3 more players either. Rangers have a much better first team and squad than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We won't be in any position to win the league with 3 more players either. Rangers have a much better first team and squad than us. Aye,ok Ally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northwich Jambo Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Was at game on Sunday, and hanging round to get autograph from Levein at end of game..He was speaking to Prince Buaben's agent and thanking him for attending game , clearly heard him say " definately keen to take a longer look at him, somebody will call him tomorrow and we can progress from there" Take from that what you will !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsfc_1874 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Told you Prince Buaben done deal will be announced next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Told you Prince Buaben done deal will be announced next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fluorescent Zebra Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Was at game on Sunday, and hanging round to get autograph from Levein at end of game..He was speaking to Prince Buaben's agent and thanking him for attending game , clearly heard him say " definately keen to take a longer look at him, somebody will call him tomorrow and we can progress from there" Take from that what you will !!!! I take from that quote that they wanted to extend the trial, which they have done so. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Aye,ok Ally ?? Nothing like a bit of blind optimism I agree, but we are setting ourselves up for a fall the way a lot of people are over estimating how good our squad actually is in comparison to Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 ?? Nothing like a bit of blind optimism I agree, but we are setting ourselves up for a fall the way a lot of people are over estimating how good our squad actually is in comparison to Rangers. This the same Rangers squad that got beat 3-1 by Dundee Utd and 1-0 by Raith Rovers in the only big games they played last season? They are their for the taking as have a manager who seems to be unable to motivate or improve players. Individually they have achieved more, but with hunger, pace, team spirit and organisation we can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This the same Rangers squad that got beat 3-1 by Dundee Utd and 1-0 by Raith Rovers in the only big games they played last season? They are their for the taking as have a manager who seems to be unable to motivate or improve players. Individually they have achieved more, but with hunger, pace, team spirit and organisation we can compete. No, that was a different Rangers who have added Miller, Boyd, Zal and McGregor. Dundee Utd where also well better than us last season. Fair enough if you think that, but I'm less than convinced and although it sounds negative i'm worried the more people actually think we will compete with them over a season the more I feel are letting themselves in for a fall and that's when the support will get on the teams back. Personally I think over a season we will be second by a mile but there is no way we will be consistent enough to win the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 No, that was a different Rangers who have added Miller, Boyd, Zal and McGregor. Dundee Utd where also well better than us last season. Fair enough if you think that, but I'm less than convinced and although it sounds negative i'm worried the more people actually think we will compete with them over a season the more I feel are letting themselves in for a fall and that's when the support will get on the teams back. Personally I think over a season we will be second by a mile but there is no way we will be consistent enough to win the League. Time will tell, has Zal signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 No, that was a different Rangers who have added Miller, Boyd, Zal and McGregor. Dundee Utd where also well better than us last season. Fair enough if you think that, but I'm less than convinced and although it sounds negative i'm worried the more people actually think we will compete with them over a season the more I feel are letting themselves in for a fall and that's when the support will get on the teams back. Personally I think over a season we will be second by a mile but there is no way we will be consistent enough to win the League. Due to a number of factors there is no guarantee that the rangers will be consistent over the season either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1998 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Told you Prince Buaben done deal will be announced next week Any more gossip of who the GK, other Midfielder or Striker maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Time will tell, has Zal signed? Think it's pretty certain he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Due to a number of factors there is no guarantee that the rangers will be consistent over the season either though. Factors such as Boyd and Miller almost guarantee they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Kenny Miller is about 70. Boyd is a great striker and will score goals. But he cant carry a team to a title. He only carried Kilmarnock just above the relegation spot last season. You ignore just how bad a manager McCoist is. The Rangers squad has been the second most expensive squad in Scotland's 4 leagues since they started off in the 3rd division. How many cups have they won? How many semi finals? They have played in 6 knock out cup competitions. If the cost of their squad and "SPL" level players was all that mattered The Rangers should have got the final of one of the 2 major cups by now. Jeez - they even got a home draw in last seasons semi final and couldnt get through. Seriously overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Kenny Miller is about 70. Boyd is a great striker and will score goals. But he cant carry a team to a title. He only carried Kilmarnock just above the relegation spot last season. You ignore just how bad a manager McCoist is. The Rangers squad has been the second most expensive squad in Scotland's 4 leagues since they started off in the 3rd division. How many cups have they won? How many semi finals? They have played in 6 knock out cup competitions. If the cost of their squad and "SPL" level players was all that mattered The Rangers should have got the final of one of the 2 major cups by now. Jeez - they even got a home draw in last seasons semi final and couldnt get through. Seriously overrated. You almost convinced me. Until I realised Kenny Miller isn't actually 70. He's 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Kenny Miller is about 70. Boyd is a great striker and will score goals. But he cant carry a team to a title. He only carried Kilmarnock just above the relegation spot last season. You ignore just how bad a manager McCoist is. The Rangers squad has been the second most expensive squad in Scotland's 4 leagues since they started off in the 3rd division. How many cups have they won? How many semi finals? They have played in 6 knock out cup competitions. If the cost of their squad and "SPL" level players was all that mattered The Rangers should have got the final of one of the 2 major cups by now. Jeez - they even got a home draw in last seasons semi final and couldnt get through. Seriously overrated. He wouldn't have to carry them to the title, they also have Daly and Clark up front. Miller will piss this league. Anyone saying otherwise then, for not a lot really, say Keattings is a great signing baffles me. Why would it be relevant how many cups they have won? They are in the second tier of Scottish Football they don't have to have a Premier League winning or even challenging squad. McCoist may be a terrible manager. We ourselves have no idea how good our head coach is either. It's nothing to do about the cost of their side either. They have a much better first 11 than the rest of the league and a much stronger squad. I'm anything but pro Rangers but my main concern is it's went from last season with low expectation getting right behind the players where anything was a bonus to an outrageously high expectation where many think we will be better than Rangers or challenging for the title and if this doesn't happen as some are imagining it could lead to abuse on the sidelines and arguing all over the shop. There's many on here who with the squad we have would easily make the top 6 in the Premier League based on absolutely nothing at all. My view on the squad is we have a young, raw, talented squad with it all to prove and although I have high expectations of where we could be in 3-4 years time this will take time and patience to get there. I don't expect us to win the league or challenge - I expect us to come together more of a team, improve in the consistency stakes and build on what we started towards the end of last season and more progression this season. If we make the Playoff Final I'll be absolutely delighted because it will mean steady progress and we can again build on that again the next again season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He wouldn't have to carry them to the title, they also have Daly and Clark up front. Miller will piss this league. Anyone saying otherwise then, for not a lot really, say Keattings is a great signing baffles me. Why would it be relevant how many cups they have won? They are in the second tier of Scottish Football they don't have to have a Premier League winning or even challenging squad. McCoist may be a terrible manager. We ourselves have no idea how good our head coach is either. It's nothing to do about the cost of their side either. They have a much better first 11 than the rest of the league and a much stronger squad. I'm anything but pro Rangers but my main concern is it's went from last season with low expectation getting right behind the players where anything was a bonus to an outrageously high expectation where many think we will be better than Rangers or challenging for the title and if this doesn't happen as some are imagining it could lead to abuse on the sidelines and arguing all over the shop. There's many on here who with the squad we have would easily make the top 6 in the Premier League based on absolutely nothing at all. My view on the squad is we have a young, raw, talented squad with it all to prove and although I have high expectations of where we could be in 3-4 years time this will take time and patience to get there. I don't expect us to win the league or challenge - I expect us to come together more of a team, improve in the consistency stakes and build on what we started towards the end of last season and more progression this season. If we make the Playoff Final I'll be absolutely delighted because it will mean steady progress and we can again build on that again the next again season. Sorry mate but me thinks you protest too much I'm all for serious debate but you are trying just a little too hard putting forward the case for the Hun Who are you trying to convince here mate We might win the league next year, we might not But to suggest we don't have a chance and that Rangers are streets a head with a far higher standard of player is total nonsense We have a real chance next year, of that there is absoloutley without doubt Too many far too quick to dismiss our championship chances next season Agendas on JKB .... Never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldcastlerock2012 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He wouldn't have to carry them to the title, they also have Daly and Clark up front. Miller will piss this league. Anyone saying otherwise then, for not a lot really, say Keattings is a great signing baffles me. Why would it be relevant how many cups they have won? They are in the second tier of Scottish Football they don't have to have a Premier League winning or even challenging squad. McCoist may be a terrible manager. We ourselves have no idea how good our head coach is either. It's nothing to do about the cost of their side either. They have a much better first 11 than the rest of the league and a much stronger squad. I'm anything but pro Rangers but my main concern is it's went from last season with low expectation getting right behind the players where anything was a bonus to an outrageously high expectation where many think we will be better than Rangers or challenging for the title and if this doesn't happen as some are imagining it could lead to abuse on the sidelines and arguing all over the shop. There's many on here who with the squad we have would easily make the top 6 in the Premier League based on absolutely nothing at all. My view on the squad is we have a young, raw, talented squad with it all to prove and although I have high expectations of where we could be in 3-4 years time this will take time and patience to get there. I don't expect us to win the league or challenge - I expect us to come together more of a team, improve in the consistency stakes and build on what we started towards the end of last season and more progression this season. If we make the Playoff Final I'll be absolutely delighted because it will mean steady progress and we can again build on that again the next again season. Let's hope the players don't have your defeatist attitude. One of the best things about the early Romanov years was the team had no fear of the OF. And even though we had a much lower paid squad than them we finished above them in 05/06 partly because of that. Because we have less resources, the only way to challenge the OF is to first believe its possible to challenge them. If every team did that the OF would have a far leas easy time of things. Or look at Costa Rica. They had italy, england and uruaguay in their group and finished top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Sorry mate but me thinks you protest too much I'm all for serious debate but you are trying just a little too hard putting forward the case for the Hun Who are you trying to convince here mate We might win the league next year, we might not But to suggest we don't have a chance and that Rangers are streets a head with a far higher standard of player is total nonsense We have a real chance next year, of that there is absoloutley without doubt Too many far too quick to dismiss our championship chances next season Agendas on JKB .... Never Aye ok then. It's total nonsense then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Let's hope the players don't have your defeatist attitude. One of the best things about the early Romanov years was the team had no fear of the OF. And even though we had a much lower paid squad than them we finished above them in 05/06 partly because of that. Because we have less resources, the only way to challenge the OF is to first believe its possible to challenge them. If every team did that the OF would have a far leas easy time of things. I've not got a defeatist attitude. 05/06 we had a strong, experienced consistent side. Right now we have anything but. It's also nothing to do with fear of the Old Firm. I'm just not in the camp of deluding myself into thinking a young inexperienced side that finished second bottom of the Premier League without the points deduction can construct a consistent title challenge at this stage against a side who has much more experienced, developed players who know how to win things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He wouldn't have to carry them to the title, they also have Daly and Clark up front. Miller will piss this league. Anyone saying otherwise then, for not a lot really, say Keattings is a great signing baffles me. Why would it be relevant how many cups they have won? They are in the second tier of Scottish Football they don't have to have a Premier League winning or even challenging squad. McCoist may be a terrible manager. We ourselves have no idea how good our head coach is either. It's nothing to do about the cost of their side either. They have a much better first 11 than the rest of the league and a much stronger squad. I'm anything but pro Rangers but my main concern is it's went from last season with low expectation getting right behind the players where anything was a bonus to an outrageously high expectation where many think we will be better than Rangers or challenging for the title and if this doesn't happen as some are imagining it could lead to abuse on the sidelines and arguing all over the shop. There's many on here who with the squad we have would easily make the top 6 in the Premier League based on absolutely nothing at all. My view on the squad is we have a young, raw, talented squad with it all to prove and although I have high expectations of where we could be in 3-4 years time this will take time and patience to get there. I don't expect us to win the league or challenge - I expect us to come together more of a team, improve in the consistency stakes and build on what we started towards the end of last season and more progression this season. If we make the Playoff Final I'll be absolutely delighted because it will mean steady progress and we can again build on that again the next again season. Cups are relevant Because sevco really really wanted to win one before they got back up to the SPL to prove they were still "simply the best". Point being McCoist cant get the best out of what is in essence a top 6 SPL squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You almost convinced me. Until I realised Kenny Miller isn't actually 70. He's 34. Oh yeah, of course. I'm getting confused, 70 is the number of goals this wee Musselborough magician is going to score this coming season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Aye ok then. It's total nonsense then. If we had Wallace Zaliukas Black and Templeton in our side next season are you saying we would win the league ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Nips Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Scarf above heed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoddy84 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 If we had Wallace Zaliukas Black and Templeton in our side next season are you saying we would win the league ? If you added Boyd to that then we would win the league defo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 If you added Boyd to that then we would win the league defo. IMO, but... Gomis is better than Black and Nicholson on form is as good as Templeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 IMO, but... Gomis is better than Black and Nicholson on form is as good as Templeton. Nicholson is a far better footballer than purple-patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Cups are relevant Because sevco really really wanted to win one before they got back up to the SPL to prove they were still "simply the best". Point being McCoist cant get the best out of what is in essence a top 6 SPL squad. They are less relevant because the players were in leagues that weren't testing them, though. The decline in someone like Lee Wallace was so noticeable against Dundee United 2 years ago - that's not really down to McCoist (as horrific a manager as he undoubtedly is). Guys like him, Black, Daly and Templeton have headroom to find when they play against better players regularly. Their squad is stronger than ours in every area. They'll be a much tougher test than most on here are giving credit for - and I say that as someone who thinks we have a genuine chance of the league if we hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 According to Neilson we only need 1 more in. I hope this is mind games as we need more than 1 more signing in my opinion. Must admit I was a bit concerned when I read this too. Hopefully he means 1 midfielder. I'm hoping for at least a striker and CB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldcastlerock2012 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I've not got a defeatist attitude. 05/06 we had a strong, experienced consistent side. Right now we have anything but. It's also nothing to do with fear of the Old Firm. I'm just not in the camp of deluding myself into thinking a young inexperienced side that finished second bottom of the Premier League without the points deduction can construct a consistent title challenge at this stage against a side who has much more experienced, developed players who know how to win things. The current Rangers team looks like a mid table SPL side - they're favourites but it's bot unrealistic to think we can't beat them or win the league. The ace on our pack should be a much better coaching system than mccoist and whoever his assistant is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboron Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 #141 Gregg Wallace Some folk need to realise we don`t have an endless pit of money to make signings with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTimes Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 ?? Nothing like a bit of blind optimism I agree, but we are setting ourselves up for a fall the way a lot of people are over estimating how good our squad actually is in comparison to Rangers. More like some posters wildly over-estimating the quality of any Rangers team managed by Aunt Sally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why do we need another center back? We have at least 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 People at today's match. How was he when he came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Some nice touches and tackles but doesn't look fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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