graygo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think they have a generic trophy to send out there. There's an extra trophy on the table behind Wiggins. Replica? Probably had replica's stationed with all the people who couldn't be there. They will have had a 3rd 2nd and 1st place trophy sitting in Miami Fair enough then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. Scottish Sportsmen/women have won it 4 times, came 2nd 3 times and 3rd 8 times, more than decent return for our size! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. Shite troll. First English winner since 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 She is truly amazing to think she was on deaths door a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Khali Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. I believe that's the first English winner for 6 years or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 2013 odds 4/1 Andy Murray 5/1 Chris Froome 6/1 Jessica Ennis 8/1 Alastair Cook 8/1 Mo Farah 10/1 Rory McIlroy 14/1 Jenson Button 16/1 Bradley Wiggins 16/1 Lee Westwood 20/1 Kevin Pietersen 20/1 Luke Donald 25/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 A Scot came third. If Tiger Tim had become the first British man to win a tennis grand slam in 76 years, the first British man to reach the final of Wimbledon in 74 years, and win Olympic Gold at the London Olympics, I wonder how he would have fared in the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 A Scot came third. And it's the first time an English person has won it since 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. When was the last English winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspian Primrose Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins deserved that for what he's achieved. still think he's a bit of welt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If Tiger Tim had become the first British man to win a tennis grand slam in 76 years, the first British man to reach the final of Wimbledon in 74 years, and win Olympic Gold at the London Olympics, I wonder how he would have fared in the vote. Wiggins was the first Brit EVER to win the Tour De France, much harder to achieve than a major and then won gold in London a couple of days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Its a rare occasion when the winner both has the best personalty and sporting achievements. Damon hill won it one year having neither. Need to check on Mansell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClure Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins was the first Brit EVER to win the Tour De France, much harder to achieve than a major and then won gold in London a couple of days later. the tour and olympic double has never been doone before by anyone. Wiggins deserved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWM Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Damon hill won it one year having neither. Need to check on Mansell. Both Hill & Mansell won it twice, both were World Champion once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins the deserved winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 A Scot came third. And if he wins Wimbers next year, he'll win it by a land slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I'm just happy that our future Queen was looking well, looking forward to more national celebrations next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_Team_of_the_Year_Award#By_year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Lifetime_Achievement_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Helen_Rollason_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Young_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year#Winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Unsung_Hero_Award#Winners Folk forgetting that there are other awards as well as just Sports Personality of the Year itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 English Sports Personality of the Year over for another twelve months then. It's not like Wiggins deserved it, or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 http://en.wikipedia....r_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia....r_Award#By_year http://en.wikipedia....t_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia....n_Award#Winners http://en.wikipedia....he_Year#Winners http://en.wikipedia....o_Award#Winners Folk forgetting that there are other awards as well as just Sports Personality of the Year itself. You are having a mare son, give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It's not like Wiggins deserved it, or anything Neither his or Murray's achievement is better than the other. He obviously won it because folk in England voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You are having a mare son, give it up. The links and records posted above back me up quite a bit, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Damon hill won it one year having neither. Need to check on Mansell. Greg Rusedski in 1997 never really won anything, but reaching the US Open final that year was enough to win the award, with Henman second. That must have been a slow year for British Sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 They links don't even back up the argument ffs Of course there are more English recipients, they make up about 85/90% of the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Neither his or Murray's achievement is better than the other. He obviously won it because folk in England voted for him. So everyone in England voted for Wiggins, and only Scots voted for Murray? Give it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The links and records posted above back me up quite a bit, son. Country with the biggest population wins the most awards. Just admit it, you don't understand why Wiggins achievements are better than Murray's by quite a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Did Scotland not have it's own version years ago? Maybe I'm thinking of something else...pretty sure Dooglie and Hazel presented it or I'm talking baws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I'm just happy that our future Queen was looking well, looking forward to more national celebrations next year Pedant alert: She will be Queen Consort not Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Neither his or Murray's achievement is better than the other. He obviously won it because folk in England voted for him. You'd have a point if it was wimbledon he had won. However, he never and Wiggins became the cirst Brit to win the Tour and the first man to win the Tour and Olympics double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boys Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pedant alert: She will be Queen Consort not Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pedant alert 2: The moment William becomes King, Kate will become Queen. The Consort of the British King is always Queen. Kate will also be Crowned as William's Consort during William's coronation ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brow Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The links and records posted above back me up quite a bit, son. Having a 'mare, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Country with the biggest population wins the most awards. Just admit it, you don't understand why Wiggins achievements are better than Murray's by quite a distance. Wiggins achievements were more or less completely stamina based. Murray's achievements (in the greatest ever era of tennis) required not only stamina, but skill and technique. The fact that Ennis came 2nd instead of Murray just shows how much of a joke it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClure Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins achievements were more or less completely stamina based. Murray's achievements (in the greatest ever era of tennis) required not only stamina, but skill and technique. The fact that Ennis came 2nd instead of Murray just shows how much of a joke it is. Ennis has to specialise in 8 different events Give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins wasn't even the best rider in the tour. Froome would have beat him were it not for team orders. :'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Ennis has to specialise in 8 different events Give up I can't believe what I'm reading tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Ennis has to specialise in 8 different events Give up Like throwing a javelin, shot put and discus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Wiggins achievements were more or less completely stamina based. Murray's achievements (in the greatest ever era of tennis) required not only stamina, but skill and technique. The fact that Ennis came 2nd instead of Murray just shows how much of a joke it is. What does 'stamina based' mean? Do you not think it takes skill to win a road race? Wiggin's technique is one of the reasons he is where he is Why not give it a go and see how you get on then? There is more to it than cycling up a hill. **** sake. Murray, as well as he did, didn't have a challenge until the semi-final of tournaments and even then arguably the best player in the world was out injured, making it even easier for him. I'm a big fan of Murray and was delighted with what he achieved, but it just doesn't compare to Wiggo this year. If you are going to claim they are pro English then even that is wrong because he is from Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClure Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Like throwing a javelin, shot put and discus? Have you ever actually tried those sports aye? Looks easy on your telly, but they are actually pretty difficult to nail the proper technique to reach world class standards Face it. You are an ignorant bitter scotch greeting into yer haggis coz yer man got beat. Typical for the hobo bottler i suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Like throwing a javelin, shot put and discus? If they require little skill like your insinuating, why are you no a champion athlete in one of those sports? I wonder if you'd be running this argument if hoy had won it. I suppose his is just stamina based too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Not enough Cornettes in existence. Thank god Kemble's Cascade is in the minority and most of us were able to enjoy the celebration of our country's sporting achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemble's Cascade Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 What does 'stamina based' mean? Do you not think it takes skill to win a road race? Why not give it a go and see how you get on then? There is more to it than cycling up a hill. **** sake. Murray, as well as he did, didn't have a challenge until the semi-final of tournaments and even then arguably the best player in the world was out injured, making it even easier for him. I'm a big fan of Murray and was delighted with what he achieved, but it just doesn't compare to Wiggo this year. If you are going to claim they are pro English then even that is wrong because he is from Belgium. I've already said that Wiggin's achievement was excellent, but I just don't see how it is better than being the first Brit to win a tennis grand slam in 76 years, and reach the final of Wimbledon in 74 years, plus win Gold at the Olympics. I suppose him being the first ever gives him an edge. Ennis coming 2nd instead of Murray is just silly though, as no way is there more skill or technique involved in running and throwing events than tennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Like throwing a javelin, shot put and discus? It's not like these sports are treated like hobbies - she smoked most of the events, even breaking a record along the way. Your argument is incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Ennis coming 2nd instead of Murray is just silly though, as no way is there more skill or technique involved in running and throwing events than tennis. By your logic, it can't take much skill to skelp a ball over a net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pedant alert 2: The moment William becomes King, Kate will become Queen. The Consort of the British King is always Queen. Kate will also be Crowned as William's Consort during William's coronation ceremony. Well you got the second part right but your first sentence is nonsense. Kate is not in the line of succession to the throne, she can never be Queen same as the current Queen's mother was never Queen. She will be Queen Consort. Edit: Probably a debate for another thread / time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 How hard can it be to ride t'boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I'll give Kemble his due, hes getting some big bites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClure Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Imagine being that bitter about somethings a public vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So the argument isn't that the SPOTY is biased to England because the first British TDF winner and only man to do the double of Tour and Olympics won it over Murray, it's biased to England because the face of Team GB who captured the imagination came second? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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