Sheiky Baby Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 After a fantastic season this year the countdown begins already to Melbourne 2013. I'm not sure if there are many rule changes this year so if you guys know drop it here. The Teams (As it stands): Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber Ferrari: Fernando Alonso, Felipe Massa McLaren: Jenson Button, Sergio Perez Lotus: Kimi Raikkonen, Romain Grojsean (not sure if he is a definite yet) Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg, Esteban Gutierrez Force India: Paul Di Resta, Vacant (Sutil, Alguersuari, Kobayashi kicking about) Williams: Pastor Maldonado, Valtteri Bottas Torro Rosso: Daniel Riccardo, Jean-Eric Vergne Caterham: Bruno Senna?, Charles Pic Marrusia: Timo Glock, Max Chilton? HRT: Who cares (might not be on the grid) Pedro De La Rosa?, Ma Qing Hua? 17 March - Australia (Melbourne) 24 March - Malaysia (Sepang) 14 April - China (Shanghai) 21 April - Bahrain (Sakhir) 12 May - Spain (Barcelona) 26 May - Monaco 9 June - Canada (Montreal) 30 June - Britain (Silverstone) 14 July - Germany (Nurburgring/Hockenheim) 28 July - Hungary (Hungaroring) 25 August - Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps) 8 September - Italy (Monza) 22 September - Singapore (Marina Bay) 6 October - Korea (Yeongam) 13 October - Japan (Suzuka) 27 October - India (Buddh International) 3 November - Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina) 17 November - United States (Austin) 24 November - Brazil (Interlagos) Reckon it will be another cracking season and looks like the last under these engine rules. Next stop, the car reveals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 HRT are not on the official list for next season. They've not paid their bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 HRT are not on the official list for next season. They've not paid their bond. Yeah that's why I said they might not make it. You never know in F1 though! Could find a buyer tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I wouldn't lose any sleep if HRT are finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 http://predictor.autosport.com For when the time comes... Can't believe I jumped up half the table after not predicting for the last 5 races! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Left Nut Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Not many changes in the regs for next season, biggest one is the ban on DDRS and DRS only being used in certain parts of the tracks in qualifying. Think it will be close again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 yep the new drs rules only allow drivers to use drs in the drs zone during practice and quali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The cars will look much the same but better due to the addition of a lightweight cover that masks the step in the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Left Nut Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 How do people think Perez will do? I think he will struggle in quali. Should do OK in the race. Just can't see him doing that great to be honest, think it is a massive risk McLaren is taking with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think Perez will do well, inconsistent more than likely but you could see with some of his drives last year that there's something special there, IMO anyway. I take it there's no chance Kubica could come back next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 How do people think Perez will do? I think he will struggle in quali. Should do OK in the race. Just can't see him doing that great to be honest, think it is a massive risk McLaren is taking with him. I think they'll regret not going for Di Resta. Perez was bringing in more money however so you could see how he got the nod over him. Too rash for me, can be a great driver but makes very stupid mistakes, especially with overtaking. In terms of Di Resta, unless any of the Torro Rosso guys show what they can do this year I can see him getting Webber's seat. There's no way he'll be in a Force India next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Perez is a very capable driver, but I'm not sure if he is McLaren quality. His nosedive in form since his McLaren seat was confirmed must be a concern. I think he's got a few podiums in him, but this is a Heikki Kovalainen-grade appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Perez is a very capable driver, but I'm not sure if he is McLaren quality. His nosedive in form since his McLaren seat was confirmed must be a concern. I think he's got a few podiums in him, but this is a Heikki Kovalainen-grade appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Left Nut Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I tend to agree that Perez wont do that well, overtaking is a issue and he never done enough for me to earn a drive at a top team... I would love for PDR to get a drive at Redbull, the guys at STR are not that great to be honest. Hope PDR has a great season and he can put himself in for a shout at a decent drive for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I really dont get excited about Paul Di Resta at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Perez is a very capable driver, but I'm not sure if he is McLaren quality. His nosedive in form since his McLaren seat was confirmed must be a concern. I think he's got a few podiums in him, but this is a Heikki Kovalainen-grade appointment. I agree, Perez doesn't have the speed - his performances came when sauber hit the sweet spot in terms of tyre degradation.. I think even Mclaren are making worried noises about him not having the pace.. I genuinely believe its a real shame that the only team that can challenge the bulls will not have a top driver to compete ... Vettel will win again next season - sigh :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think they'll regret not going for Di Resta. Perez was bringing in more money however so you could see how he got the nod over him. Too rash for me, can be a great driver but makes very stupid mistakes, especially with overtaking. In terms of Di Resta, unless any of the Torro Rosso guys show what they can do this year I can see him getting Webber's seat. There's no way he'll be in a Force India next year. No chance he'll be at Red Bull. He beat Vettel in equal cars in Formula3 so Vettel wouldn't allow it. Is he good enough anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 No chance he'll be at Red Bull. He beat Vettel in equal cars in Formula3 so Vettel wouldn't allow it. Is he good enough anyway? Di resta? No he's not IMO.. He's very consistent, a very good driver but top 3 teams ? No chance ... (Saying that I don't think he's worse than button or Perez) He got his ass handed to him by hulk once he got familiar with the car... Beaten consistently in qualy and the race... I honestly can't believe though on a side note Mclaren will go into the season with that driver pairing... Snorefest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Already?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 No chance he'll be at Red Bull. He beat Vettel in equal cars in Formula3 so Vettel wouldn't allow it. Is he good enough anyway? I was actually in the middle of typing 'Vettel wouldn't allow it' on that post but I deleted it thinking 'Vettel wouldn't care, he's 3 time world champion FFS!' and dismissed my though straight away! His professionalism and determination more than anything should see him in a leading car. More than likely to bring the car home where it's supposed to be in the final standings. I don't see him lighting up the track, however a capable race winner and IMO will be better than Webber when the time comes to make the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Di resta? No he's not IMO.. He's very consistent, a very good driver but top 3 teams ? No chance ... (Saying that I don't think he's worse than button or Perez) He got his ass handed to him by hulk once he got familiar with the car... Beaten consistently in qualy and the race... I honestly can't believe though on a side note Mclaren will go into the season with that driver pairing... Snorefest He and the Hulk were very evenly matched. Only a few 10ths in it in qualifying. He can bring a car home though. I was actually in the middle of typing 'Vettel wouldn't allow it' on that post but I deleted it thinking 'Vettel wouldn't care, he's 3 time world champion FFS!' and dismissed my though straight away! His professionalism and determination more than anything should see him in a leading car. More than likely to bring the car home where it's supposed to be in the final standings. I don't see him lighting up the track, however a capable race winner and IMO will be better than Webber when the time comes to make the switch. I'd love to see him in a car capable of winning races. Will it ever happen though? I think he'll always be overlooked unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 On a side note. Did anyone else really enjoy Tooned? I found it funny as feck and smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 On a side note. Did anyone else really enjoy Tooned? I found it funny as feck and smart it was pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 On a side note. Did anyone else really enjoy Tooned? I found it funny as feck and smart I thought they were very good. A bit light hearted fun to enjoy in the build up to the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think they'll regret not going for Di Resta. Perez was bringing in more money however so you could see how he got the nod over him. Too rash for me, can be a great driver but makes very stupid mistakes, especially with overtaking. In terms of Di Resta, unless any of the Torro Rosso guys show what they can do this year I can see him getting Webber's seat. There's no way he'll be in a Force India next year. Di Resta is a champion in the making. Ferrari to win this 2013 Championship (early prediction). I dont think Perez will do particularly well next year as McLaren will need at least a season to develop a car to suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Di Resta is a champion in the making. I agree. In sports car racing. He'll win Le Mans within five years. In F1 he doesn't have the extra bit of pace needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 the german gp has been moved, as it looks likely that the turkish gp is back on the calendar http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20614283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Out of interest, can some of you chaps put up your top 10 curent F1 drivers at the moment? Not in terms of standings or that, but in terms of how you rate them. 1. Fernando Alonso 2. Lewis Hamilton 3. Sebastian Vettel 4. Kimi Raikkonen 5. Jenson Button 6. Paul Di Resta 7. Sergio Perez 8. Mark Webber 9. Nico Rosberg 10. Nico Hulkenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Out of interest, can some of you chaps put up your top 10 curent F1 drivers at the moment? Not in terms of standings or that, but in terms of how you rate them. I'd go for: 1. Fernando Alonso 2. Sebastian Vettel 3. Lewis Hamilton 4. Kimi Raikkonen 5. Jenson Button 6. Nico Hulkenberg 7. Felipe Massa 8. Mark Webber 9. Paul Di Resta 10. Sergio Perez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Out of interest, can some of you chaps put up your top 10 curent F1 drivers at the moment? Not in terms of standings or that, but in terms of how you rate them. 1. Alonso 2. Raikkonen 3. Vettel 4. Hamilton 5. Button 6. Webber 7. Hulkenberg 8. Rosberg 9. Maldonado 10. Massa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 the german gp has been moved, as it looks likely that the turkish gp is back on the calendar http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/20614283 other reports say it might be the red bull ring in austria just for next year http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/could-it-be-austria/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy.C Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Can see Di Resta taking a Ferrari seat after Massa goes next year. Would be a good move for both, as he'll not threaten the stranglehold Alonso has on the team, but being of Italian heritage, he'd be a good PR move for the team. Plus, in a good car, he'd be mixing it at the front of the pack. Definitely lost his way after Singapore this year...think being overlooked by the big teams got to him mentally, hence why Hulk gave him a bit of a doing in the second half of the season. As for top 10 drivers: Alonso Hamilton Vettel Raikkonen Webber Button Massa Di Resta Perez Maldonado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Everyone has Di Resta ahead of Perez. Why did McLaren opt for Perez then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Everyone has Di Resta ahead of Perez. Why did McLaren opt for Perez then? didn't want an all british lineup again as it limits sponsors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Everyone has Di Resta ahead of Perez. Why did McLaren opt for Perez then? Di Resta also said this too but nobody will take his word for it as he lost out. Also, Di Resta's name was the first out of Whitmarsh's mouth when asked who missed out for Perez. He then went on to say Perez's age played a part and I believe they think he has more potential. I don't see it though. A level head is needed in F1 and Perez doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Alonso Vettel Raikkonen Hamilton Button Webber Rosberg Massa Hulkenburg Maldanado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Alonso Hamilton Vettel Raikkonen Webber Button Hulkenberg Perez Grosjean Di Resta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Everyone has Di Resta ahead of Perez. Why did McLaren opt for Perez then? I think McLaren are already regretting taking him on. More to do with nationality than talent. As for my top 10. 1. Alonso. 2. Vettel 3. Hamilton. 4. Raikkonen. 5. Button. 6. Webber. 7. Hulk. 8. Maldonado. 9. di Resta. 10. Grosjean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I agree. In sports car racing. He'll win Le Mans within five years. In F1 he doesn't have the extra bit of pace needed. Give him the right car and team, Red Bull say. When Webber calls it a day, itis a definite possibility. We all know how well Seb has developed at the Milton Keynes based team. So I have no doubt if Paul was to move in 2014 he will be great asset for the current World Champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 1. Sebastian Vettel 2. Lewis Hamilton 3. Fernando Alonso 4. Kimi Raikkonen 5. Jenson Button 6. Paul Di Resta 7. Mark Webber 8. Nico Rosberg 9. Kobayashi (not sure how you spell it) 10. Nico Hulkenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks as if there will be 20 races next year. Turkey been tipped for a return. Quite like the Turkish racetrack. Although maybe France or Austia mentioned. http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/20614283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think Perez will surprise alot of people next year. Di Resta for me was always a stick on to replace Schumacher however when Hamilton gave them the nod i think that went on the back burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 max chilton to drive for marussia according to eddie jordan http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/20760073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 grosjean confirmed as lotus driver FORMULA 1 Lotus re-sign French driver Romain Grosjean for another season. The 26-year-old finished on the podium three three times last season but also featured in several high-profile crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think Perez will surprise alot of people next year. Di Resta for me was always a stick on to replace Schumacher however when Hamilton gave them the nod i think that went on the back burner. Diresta seems to suffer from David Leslie syndrome for those older people :- Far better driver than dr Jonathan but didn;t have the pr spin behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheiky Baby Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 looks like Kobayashi is out of the 2013 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 looks like Kobayashi is out of the 2013 season Shame that. He can bring $8m too. An excellent driver who goes for it every time. Surely he'll be back in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Something about downforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ferrari are saying they'd choose Vettel over Hamilton if they needed to appoint a new lead driver. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20809274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ferrari are saying they'd choose Vettel over Hamilton if they needed to appoint a new lead driver. http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/20809274 This is what you would expect from Ferrari, stirring to a great extent. I don't think it does their credibility any good saying this like this, it's not the sort of thing you hear from Red Bull or McLaren. It would be aazing to see Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel in the same car, I wouldn't like to predict the winner. You'd probably get Vettel on pole, with Hamilton 2nd, but by the time they reach the first cornere they'd all be level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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