Dawnrazor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: To be fair Konnie, I've better than that cleaning the dungeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dirty Deeds said: The London Economic Forum thinks we more than pay our way https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/economics/scotlands-extraordinary-fiscal-contribution-to-uk-economy-revealed-370677/ 5 hours ago, TallPaul said: A good read and underlines the areas in which Scotland thrives as part of our beloved Union. Lest any tory morons think it's all milk and honey: https://www.ft.com/content/dd180705-6331-4187-acd5-fc07ca6da3ac These kids really need to try harder. Edited March 21 by Gizmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 30 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: There's not really a pretty side to any nationalism James 😪 True . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Lest any tory morons think it's all milk and honey: https://www.ft.com/content/dd180705-6331-4187-acd5-fc07ca6da3ac These kids really need to try harder. I blame the parents. Surely they are responsible for providing for their kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, TallPaul said: I blame the parents. Surely they are responsible for providing for their kids? No, it's the states responsibility! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, TallPaul said: I blame the parents. Surely they are responsible for providing for their kids? If their earning and spending power has been steadily eroded by 14 years of Tory austerity and no/miserable wage rises not keeping pace with inflation, fuel and food costs disproportionately increased way above inflation, rent, travel passes and other important utilities like broadband and phones bills increase annual way above inflation, and an economy only claiming not to be in recession due to a statistically irrelevant 0.25% growth? Guess they should try harder, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, TallPaul said: I blame the parents. Surely they are responsible for providing for their kids? Not in Scotland it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 42 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: There's not really a pretty side to any nationalism James 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said: And another in Mexico. All those bonnie Princes in exile getting us 'hoosers' telt. It's nice to see Mr u-turn is still fascinated by my living arrangements, even though he is wrong as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, Gizmo said: If their earning and spending power has been steadily eroded by 14 years of Tory austerity and no/miserable wage rises not keeping pace with inflation, fuel and food costs disproportionately increased way above inflation, rent, travel passes and other important utilities like broadband and phones bills increase annual way above inflation, and an economy only claiming not to be in recession due to a statistically irrelevant 0.25% growth? Guess they should try harder, right? As I say if your kids are going without you've failed in your duty as a parent. Far too many fire out sprogs with no consideration for how they plan to provide for them then expect the state to pick up the tab. It's not a recent thing it's gone on for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Not in Scotland it seems You know that's not true. Child poverty has increased across the UK, mirrored by the proliferation of food banks. Somehow that's all down to irresponsibility and not the prevailing financial conditions. 🙄 25% rise in food prices in the last 2 years. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/articles/costoflivinginsights/food#:~:text=Although the rate at which,beverage prices rose by 9%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Gaun yerself Penny https://x.com/markthehibby/status/1770767946211639439?s=46&t=Uyg6zS_aUfEwlXY6vOoxzQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Is that Frauline Braun ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Scotland always gets a raw deal 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Gizmo said: You know that's not true. Child poverty has increased across the UK, mirrored by the proliferation of food banks. Somehow that's all down to irresponsibility and not the prevailing financial conditions. 🙄 25% rise in food prices in the last 2 years. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/articles/costoflivinginsights/food#:~:text=Although the rate at which,beverage prices rose by 9%. Nooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, XB52 said: It's nice to see Mr u-turn is still fascinated by my living arrangements, even though he is wrong as usual. Ach, at least he's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, TallPaul said: As I say if your kids are going without you've failed in your duty as a parent. Far too many fire out sprogs with no consideration for how they plan to provide for them then expect the state to pick up the tab. It's not a recent thing it's gone on for decades. "far too many". Notice how your posts are never qualified with numbers or backed up in any way whatsoever. Your tax burden would be even higher if families stop having children as there would be too few workers to top up the pension pot or pay taxes in for whatever decimated public services we have left. I suppose these parents should have predicted, and budgeted for: - a pandemic - Brexit - a European land war They could have, to be honest, probably banked the house on the corporations profiteering by ramping food prices way beyond already rampant inflation during a crisis! Greed is good for corporations and elites, but certainly not for average Joe's. The BoE was quick to tell them they shouldn't expect wage rises... Anyway, I'm done arguing this, some of us aren't so out-of-touch and self-serving that we view all poverty as self-inflicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Gizmo said: "far too many". Notice how your posts are never qualified with numbers or backed up in any way whatsoever. Your tax burden would be even higher if families stop having children as there would be too few workers to top up the pension pot or pay taxes in for whatever decimated public services we have left. I suppose these parents should have predicted, and budgeted for: - a pandemic - Brexit - a European land war They could have, to be honest, probably banked the house on the corporations profiteering by ramping food prices way beyond already rampant inflation during a crisis! Greed is good for corporations and elites, but certainly not for average Joe's. The BoE was quick to tell them they shouldn't expect wage rises... Anyway, I'm done arguing this, some of us aren't so out-of-touch and self-serving that we view all poverty as self-inflicted. What's your solution Gizmo? Let's hear how you plan to some new trainers for all the hard up wains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Is that Frauline Braun ? Aye. Fantastic tits and fantastic taste in Fuhrers. 15 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Ffs, Dawn. You'll put me off my hooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Ach, at least he's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Gizmo said: a pandemic - Brexit - a European land war It’s been an issue well before any of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Aye. Fantastic tits and fantastic taste in Fuhrers. Ffs, Dawn. You'll put me off my hooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 35 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Gaun yerself Penny https://x.com/markthehibby/status/1770767946211639439?s=46&t=Uyg6zS_aUfEwlXY6vOoxzQ Can't say in a massive tory fan right now but I'd vote for Penny just to see her get the opportunity to lampoon thick nationalists on a more regular basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Can't say in a massive tory fan right now but I'd vote for Penny just to see her get the opportunity to lampoon thick nationalists on a more regular basis She rips Deidre a new one every week . Poor woman must be a masochist . 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 SNP woman trying to silence dean of advocates concerns about the hate crime bill . Scary stuff . They are running scared of this juggernaut . https://x.com/markthehibby/status/1770787431345684940?s=46&t=Uyg6zS_aUfEwlXY6vOoxzQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 25 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Can't say in a massive tory fan right now but I'd vote for Penny just to see her get the opportunity to lampoon thick nationalists on a more regular basis Oooh man Id get stuck in about that strapping wench until the council came round to see what the smell was. And even then Id take my time answering the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: SNP woman trying to silence dean of advocates concerns about the hate crime bill . Scary stuff . They are running scared of this juggernaut . https://x.com/markthehibby/status/1770787431345684940?s=46&t=Uyg6zS_aUfEwlXY6vOoxzQ The snp don't like Roddy Dunlop as he's (a) bright (b) successful and (c) has the temerity on occasion to question their brand of progressive nationalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: The snp don't like Roddy Dunlop as he's (a) bright (b) successful and (c) has the temerity on occasion to question their brand of progressive nationalism. Correct !☑️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, TallPaul said: Folk need to get the finger out and work a bit harder But how? They know the currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: SNP woman trying to silence dean of advocates concerns about the hate crime bill . Scary stuff . They are running scared of this juggernaut . https://x.com/markthehibby/status/1770787431345684940?s=46&t=Uyg6zS_aUfEwlXY6vOoxzQ You'll have heard wee DRoss being put in his place by none other than Adam Tomkins, ex Tory MSP, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Gundermann said: You'll have heard wee DRoss being put in his place by none other than Adam Tomkins, ex Tory MSP, then? Stop the deflection . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Stop the deflection . How TF is it a deflection. DRoss raised Dunlop's concerns, the FM raised Tomkins, the Chair of Public Law, as a response. It's called debating. I don't know why you fear it so much... Quote Adam Tomkins, a former Conservative MSP, has written seven books in the areas of constitutional, administrative and European Union law, with a new one to follow later this year on the issue of free speech. Mr Tomkins feels "if we focus on what the Act actually means, rather than on what intemperate voices on both the left and the right are falsely claiming it means, we might yet make a success of it". It has been claimed that the new law will criminalise any kind of offensive speech, based solely on whether someone hearing it was offended. The John Millar Professor of Public Law at the University of Glasgow was convener of the Scottish Parliament’s Justice Committee when the Hate Crime Bill was enacted, and has pointed to a number of what sees as misconceptions. Read More: Hate Crime Act might yet be a success if we focus on what it means Writing in The Herald Mr Tomkins explained: "Under the new law, not all of these characteristics are protected in the same way. Indeed, the Hate Crime Act puts them into three different categories. Race enjoys the fullest protection. Religion enjoys the least protection. And all the other characteristics are in the middle category. Edited March 21 by Gundermann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Gundermann said: How TF is it a deflection. DRoss raised Dunlop's concerns, the FM raised Tomkins, the Chair of Public Law, as a response. It's called debating. I don't know why you fear it so much... The only people that hate the bill are people that hate certain parts of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: The only people that hate the bill are people that hate certain parts of society. It's that kind of shallow, sweeping generalisation that cements your nationalist credentials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, Gundermann said: How TF is it a deflection. DRoss raised Dunlop's concerns, the FM raised Tomkins, the Chair of Public Law, as a response. It's called debating. I don't know why you fear it so much... That article been savaged and ridiculed . No fear here mate . Bring it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: It's that kind of shallow, sweeping generalisation that cements your nationalist credentials Thank you. Always happy to have my Scottish nationalist credentials cemented by the British nationalists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: It's that kind of shallow, sweeping generalisation that cements your nationalist credentials That’s the language they use “ fear “ instead of people “ questioning “ the bill . It’s the same type of thinking of when police do stop and searches etc . Nothing to “ fear” if you haven’t done anything nonsense . Edited March 21 by JudyJudyJudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: To be fair Konnie, I've better than that cleaning the dungeon. Says the man that would shag a hole in a barbershop floor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: That article been savaged and ridiculed . No fear here mate . Bring it on By the Daily Mail and Dross? Ok then... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/21/humza-yousaf-criticises-disinformation-over-new-scottish-hate-law Quote Tomkins insisted that “offensive speech is not criminalised by this legislation … just because you feel offended by what someone has said does not make it a hate crime”. He wrote: “Asserting that sex is a biological fact or that it is not changed just by virtue of the gender by which someone chooses to identify is not and never can be a hate crime under this legislation.” Police Scotland has firmly rebutted reports that comedians and actors would be targeted through enforcement, and earlier on Thursday the chief constable, Jo Farrell, told a meeting of the Scottish Police Authority that officers would apply the law “in a measured way, using their discretion and their common sense”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Konrad von Carstein said: Says the man that would shag a hole in a barbershop floor... Oh I didn't say I wouldn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Says the man that would shag a hole in a barbershop floor... Swept or unswept?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Oh I didn't say I wouldn't! True... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, henrysmithsgloves said: Swept or unswept?🤔 Don't think it would matter to Kickback's wanna be Casanova... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Konrad von Carstein said: Don't think it would matter to Kickback's wanna be Casanova... Probably do the brush too😲😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Last few pages have “at last” been pretty *** good and definitely funny.Perhaps the Natz have a sense of humour after all,who knew 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 26 minutes ago, Gundermann said: But how? They know the currency. Humza doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, stevie said: Last few pages have “at last” been pretty *** good and definitely funny.Perhaps the Natz have a sense of humour after all,who knew 👍 No we don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, TallPaul said: Humza doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Gundermann said: Viva the communist republic of Scorway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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