The Rangers soap opera goes on and on.

[Dirty Deeds]

1 minute ago, The Future's Maroon said:

 

Wouldnt do much but maybe an undercover agent needs to start a thread to highlight this on the killie kickback 

They either meet the criteria for a licence or do do not.   If they don't then Killie will get their chance.

 

They have huge debts but they're not due for repayment anytime soon.  Right now they probably have a load of season ticket cash in the bank, perhaps they do currently meet the criteria,  I don't know. 

 

They are a basket case of a club and King is challenging Vlad for madness.  No doubt their bank balance will dwindle quickly but up to now the new Rangers has gotten by, although many continue to predict not for long.

[Daveandal]

Anything in the story KM has been told to pay back his last month of wages? Seems a bit desperate for a club on a rock solid financial footing.... 

[Jeff]

2 minutes ago, Daveandal said:

Anything in the story KM has been told to pay back his last month of wages? Seems a bit desperate for a club on a rock solid financial footing.... 

 

Don't think he'd ever confirm it either way

[buzzbomb1958]

1 minute ago, Daveandal said:

Anything in the story KM has been told to pay back his last month of wages? Seems a bit desperate for a club on a rock solid financial footing.... 

Both him and LW were fined a month's wages for their part in the ruck which allegedly took part in the dressing room at Hampden,both players are now going to their union rep and the PFA s citing they had nothing to do with this,not another court case surely ,the Sevco lawyers must be coining it in

[J.T.F.Robertson]

 

The NARSA annual convention is taking place here, as we speak. WATP hats and Union Jack shorts have been encountered so far.

[ghkjambo]

In regards to when debt needs to be repaid; that’s not the problem for UEFA, it’s the relationship that the owner of the debt has to the club. 5 million euros is the losses that are OK over 3 years under FFP if debts are not deemed to be equity (or almost equivalent). “Up to” 20 million Euros of losses over 3 years is OK if the funding meets FFP rules - which are open to interpretation. I think the rush to convert loans to equity was a very important deadline that has been missed...

[Jerah Jambo]

6 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Overall the SPFL director complaint and the suspensions / fines for Lee Wallace and Kenny Miller give clear evidence of the culture and governing of Rangers. 

 

Gross stupdity. 

 

If this ends up at an Industrial Tribunal for unfair dismissal it could get very interesting, all the details will have to come out in open session,  including disciplinary process and what made Rangers take the action they took. 

 

Not sure if that's somewhere  they might want to go. 

 

[tcjambo]

25 minutes ago, Jerah Jambo said:

 

If this ends up at an Industrial Tribunal for unfair dismissal it could get very interesting, all the details will have to come out in open session,  including disciplinary process and what made Rangers take the action they took. 

 

Not sure if that's somewhere  they might want to go. 

 

I thought two weeks wages was the max deduction a club could impose on a player for disciplinary issues

[Big Slim Stylee]

5 hours ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

The NARSA annual convention is taking place here, as we speak. WATP hats and Union Jack shorts have been encountered so far.

 

Heartfelt sympathies to you at this difficult time.

[The Future's Maroon]

8 hours ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

The NARSA annual convention is taking place here, as we speak. WATP hats and Union Jack shorts have been encountered so far.

Be safe Jim ?

Edited June 2, 2018 by The Future's Maroon

[buzzbomb1958]

Barry the crab feels like a schoolboy because the thug is Sevco manager, is it just me but did he not wet his breeks when Pedro took over,bunkruptsy must have addled his tyny brain poor wee Barry

[Stuart Lyon]

Only one Glasgow Rangers? WTF is this all about

 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16264939.There_are_so_many_Rangers_firms_they_could_form_their_own_Premiership/

[The Gasman]

13 hours ago, tcjambo said:

I thought two weeks wages was the max deduction a club could impose on a player for disciplinary issues

 

Must admit that was always my understanding as well, though I’m not sure if it’s a legal limit, so it may be theoretically possible that their contracts allow for four weeks....

 

....but I doubt successive Agents would all have let their players sign up to that, or that the SPFA, would stand back and let a club impose that....

 

Far more likely that, once again, Rangers / King has been ignorant of the rules and laws, or arrogant enough to think they’re above them.  :rolleyes:

[jambovambo]

“So hold on a second, Steven Gerrard is still studying for his UEFA Pro Licence... and he will complete it this time next year.... But you need a Pro licence to manage longer than 12 weeks in any European nations top flight and in the champions league as well as Europa League.”

 

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[Boof]

Odds on him lasting <12weeks?

 

[tokyowalnut]

20 minutes ago, Boof said:

Odds on him lasting <12weeks?

 

I can't see him being here for the January transfer window.

[gjcc]

1 hour ago, jambovambo said:

“So hold on a second, Steven Gerrard is still studying for his UEFA Pro Licence... and he will complete it this time next year.... But you need a Pro licence to manage longer than 12 weeks in any European nations top flight and in the champions league as well as Europa League.”

 

twitter

 

Can the nations association not give dispensation? 

Avram Grant didn't have the pro licence when he went to Chelsea. 

[graygo]

4 minutes ago, gjcc said:

 

Can the nations association not give dispensation? 

Avram Grant didn't have the pro licence when he went to Chelsea. 

 

Pretty sure they can as long as they are working towards getting the badges. 

[JamboAl]

3 hours ago, jambovambo said:

“So hold on a second, Steven Gerrard is still studying for his UEFA Pro Licence... and he will complete it this time next year.... But you need a Pro licence to manage longer than 12 weeks in any European nations top flight and in the champions league as well as Europa League.”

 

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But different rules apply for the OF.

The general rules are for the other clubs to adhere to.

[jambovambo]

On 02/06/2018 at 15:10, JamboAl said:

But different rules apply for the OF.

The general rules are for the other clubs to adhere to.

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/06/blogs/time-for-folk-at-hampden-to-wake-up-sevco-will-never-voluntarily-do-things-by-the-book/

 

Not wrong ...

[Justin Z]

17 minutes ago, jambovambo said:

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/06/blogs/time-for-folk-at-hampden-to-wake-up-sevco-will-never-voluntarily-do-things-by-the-book/

 

Not wrong ...

 

The general idea is not wrong, but it really pisses me off when those green c*nts whine and say things like "every other club in the lands scrambles to play it by the book." That is wrong as can be--there are two that get the red carpet, white glove treatment, and those bunch of hooped crybabies are the others.

 

Of course they never see it that way.

[kirkierobroy]

22 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

That is wrong as can be--there are two that get the red carpet, white glove treatment, and those bunch of hooped crybabies are the others.

 

 

Well said.

[jamboz]

2 hours ago, Justin Z said:

 

The general idea is not wrong, but it really pisses me off when those green c*nts whine and say things like "every other club in the lands scrambles to play it by the book." That is wrong as can be--there are two that get the red carpet, white glove treatment, and those bunch of hooped crybabies are the others.

 

Of course they never see it that way.

 

West coast bias is real and alive and kicking.  It is ingrained in to the fabric of society to such an extent, with the media and authorities writing the discriminatory/ bias narrative, that the rest of Scottish football votes for and encourages rules, decisions and initiatives that openly benefit the “old firm” whilst detrimental to themselves and everyone else. 

 

But make no mistake, despite this, no other team in Scotland (uk, Europe, the world or known universe) has enjoyed or benefited as much from selective or creative interpretation of rules, laws, taxation or ignoring of infractions, or support and direct assistance from authorities or sectarian solidarity from high ranking officials or turning of blind eyes, or preferential treatment ahead of all others than sevco has and continues to receive. 

 

It it does not even come close and cannot really be compared in the same breath. 

[jambovambo]

Exactly. Was it Regan or Doncaster who said a large proportion of Scottish men “need a team to support every week” or similar?

 

Might have been in the Armageddon / social unrest stuff ...

[colinmaroon]

10 hours ago, jamboz said:

 

West coast bias is real and alive and kicking.  It is ingrained in to the fabric of society to such an extent, with the media and authorities writing the discriminatory/ bias narrative, that the rest of Scottish football votes for and encourages rules, decisions and initiatives that openly benefit the “old firm” whilst detrimental to themselves and everyone else. 

 

But make no mistake, despite this, no other team in Scotland (uk, Europe, the world or known universe) has enjoyed or benefited as much from selective or creative interpretation of rules, laws, taxation or ignoring of infractions, or support and direct assistance from authorities or sectarian solidarity from high ranking officials or turning of blind eyes, or preferential treatment ahead of all others than sevco has and continues to receive. 

 

It it does not even come close and cannot really be compared in the same breath. 

 

 

You have it mate, in a rotten, reeking nutshell!!!

Edited June 4, 2018 by colinmaroon

[kirkierobroy]

10 hours ago, jamboz said:

West coast bias is real and alive and kicking

 

It cannot be said often enough that while SevcoCeltic is a poison in Scottish football, society and culture it is just that - a ghastly Scottish phenomenon. With which teams do most people in, say, Dumfries, Perth, Peterhead, Stornoway, Inverness, Greenock, Motherwell, Clydebank identify? Not their local ones, if they have one.

 

SevcoCeltic like to think they are global brands - they're not - but they dominate Scotland to the effect that tens of thousands identify with them, wear the jerseys and buy into all the mince, but never attend matches of any kind. Rail against the 'West Coast Media' if you will but they don't talk up Motherwell or Morton or St Mirren or Ayr United, even though they are, definitely, 'West Coast' teams. Yet supporters of those teams (and of many others) go to matches and see busloads trundling away to support SevcoCeltic, or, worse still, standing outside the pub in SevcoCeltic jerseys with no intention of watching any live football, ever.

 

By all means indulge in Embra-Glesca rivalry, but SevcoCeltic should not be a part of this. They are every decent football supporter's enemy. 

[Meadows]

Has it been reported what kind of salary Gerrard & McAllister are on ? 

Im guessing £1m combined per season ? 

[JackLadd]

16 minutes ago, Meadows said:

Has it been reported what kind of salary Gerrard & McAllister are on ? 

Im guessing £1m combined per season ? 

 

Pretty cheap for a guy that was on £8m at Liverpool in 2012. The lack of Gerrard's pro license is what irks me, another sfa/spfl carpet sweep. Just one more example of one rule for Sevco and another rule for the rest. King got the horde to renew despite another rotten season (by oldco standards) so that was the only thing that mattered. 

[Hagar the Horrible]

They are trying to get Ovie Ejaria on loan,  McBurnie touting himself with a come and get me,  One a Liverpool defender(on loan) who helped Sunderland be relegated and the other would be a great signing, but how nieve if they think they will be on big wages with the Gerrard Revolution?

 

As for the pro licence, that has been done by other clubs, and Largs is considered one of the best places to get your licence, so that is not one rule for one.  But getting a licence for the club is the bigger issue, when they have not enough funds without Wonga-style loans to get them to the end of season, notwithstanding thay have one to pay back in February otherwise the big screen, the PA the catering equipment and the big hoose as well as the car park change ownership.  

[JackLadd]

Ejaria would be a squad addition. They might manage to sign McBurnie if they can get a fee for Morelos.  But where is King's rights issue? The People were told 'major investment' by the Stenography corps. Mark Guidi told em... 

[ollie2004]

1 hour ago, Meadows said:

Has it been reported what kind of salary Gerrard & McAllister are on ? 

Im guessing £1m combined per season ? 

Was Fat Sally not on £750K?

[The Gasman]

8 minutes ago, ollie2004 said:

Was Fat Sally not on £750K?

 

£850,000 I believe.

[The Gasman]

20 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

Ejaria would be a squad addition. They might manage to sign McBurnie if they can get a fee for Morelos.  But where is King's rights issue? The People were told 'major investment' by the Stenography corps. Mark Guidi told em... 

 

My understanding is that King has to comply with the Take Over Panel ruling, before he can have any rights issue to raise capital and reduce debt.

[jambovambo]

https://twitter.com/Barcabhoy1/status/1002958151111540736

 

Spiers getting it tight on Twitter about an article of his re McLennan's "impartiality"

 

Did you really mean this ? @GrahamSpiers

It’s INCONCEIVABLE that Murdoch MacLennan was impartial,but you have no idea whether Ogilvie & Gordon Smith were not impartial

Really ?

How do you come to that differentiation, especially given track record suggests the opposite

[jambovambo]

Sorry about the rubbish layout / formatting of that. Worth reading the thread.

[brunoatemyhamster]

14 minutes ago, jambovambo said:

Sorry about the rubbish layout / formatting of that. Worth reading the thread.

" Have you been gotten by Traynor Graham ? Blink twice for yes ."

 

[Rabbie_Burns]

2 hours ago, kirkierobroy said:

 

It cannot be said often enough that while SevcoCeltic is a poison in Scottish football, society and culture it is just that - a ghastly Scottish phenomenon. With which teams do most people in, say, Dumfries, Perth, Peterhead, Stornoway, Inverness, Greenock, Motherwell, Clydebank identify? Not their local ones, if they have one.

 

SevcoCeltic like to think they are global brands - they're not - but they dominate Scotland to the effect that tens of thousands identify with them, wear the jerseys and buy into all the mince, but never attend matches of any kind. Rail against the 'West Coast Media' if you will but they don't talk up Motherwell or Morton or St Mirren or Ayr United, even though they are, definitely, 'West Coast' teams. Yet supporters of those teams (and of many others) go to matches and see busloads trundling away to support SevcoCeltic, or, worse still, standing outside the pub in SevcoCeltic jerseys with no intention of watching any live football, ever.

 

By all means indulge in Embra-Glesca rivalry, but SevcoCeltic should not be a part of this. They are every decent football supporter's enemy. 

 

Well said Kirkie, I've always seen it as a Weegie centric bias myself too. The actual West Coast: Helensburgh, Dumbarton, Greenock, Ayr, Stranraer etc don't fare any better than Edinburgh, Fife, Tayside et al when it comes down to the footballing authorities and media reporting that goes on

[jumpship]

3 hours ago, kirkierobroy said:

 

It cannot be said often enough that while SevcoCeltic is a poison in Scottish football, society and culture it is just that - a ghastly Scottish phenomenon. With which teams do most people in, say, Dumfries, Perth, Peterhead, Stornoway, Inverness, Greenock, Motherwell, Clydebank identify? Not their local ones, if they have one.

 

SevcoCeltic like to think they are global brands - they're not - but they dominate Scotland to the effect that tens of thousands identify with them, wear the jerseys and buy into all the mince, but never attend matches of any kind. Rail against the 'West Coast Media' if you will but they don't talk up Motherwell or Morton or St Mirren or Ayr United, even though they are, definitely, 'West Coast' teams. Yet supporters of those teams (and of many others) go to matches and see busloads trundling away to support SevcoCeltic, or, worse still, standing outside the pub in SevcoCeltic jerseys with no intention of watching any live football, ever.

 

By all means indulge in Embra-Glesca rivalry, but SevcoCeltic should not be a part of this. They are every decent football supporter's enemy. 

 

[doctor jambo]

57 minutes ago, Rabbie_Burns said:

 

Well said Kirkie, I've always seen it as a Weegie centric bias myself too. The actual West Coast: Helensburgh, Dumbarton, Greenock, Ayr, Stranraer etc don't fare any better than Edinburgh, Fife, Tayside et al when it comes down to the footballing authorities and media reporting that goes on

Indeed.

its pretty sad that large parts of the country see Glasgow as being the defacto capital,

but in footballing terms the entire country suffers from the sectarian division of the population,

many of whom see football allegiance as a public expression of religious identity- otherwise why do people abandon their hometown clubs in such large numbers to follow the Glasgow clubs?

(apart from glory seeking, but even then the rise in "new" fans for the other clubs has not been massive even during the more successful years

[Unknown user]

3 hours ago, kirkierobroy said:

 

It cannot be said often enough that while SevcoCeltic is a poison in Scottish football, society and culture it is just that - a ghastly Scottish phenomenon. With which teams do most people in, say, Dumfries, Perth, Peterhead, Stornoway, Inverness, Greenock, Motherwell, Clydebank identify? Not their local ones, if they have one.

 

SevcoCeltic like to think they are global brands - they're not - but they dominate Scotland to the effect that tens of thousands identify with them, wear the jerseys and buy into all the mince, but never attend matches of any kind. Rail against the 'West Coast Media' if you will but they don't talk up Motherwell or Morton or St Mirren or Ayr United, even though they are, definitely, 'West Coast' teams. Yet supporters of those teams (and of many others) go to matches and see busloads trundling away to support SevcoCeltic, or, worse still, standing outside the pub in SevcoCeltic jerseys with no intention of watching any live football, ever.

 

By all means indulge in Embra-Glesca rivalry, but SevcoCeltic should not be a part of this. They are every decent football supporter's enemy. 

Embra?

[doctor jambo]

1 hour ago, Rabbie_Burns said:

 

Well said Kirkie, I've always seen it as a Weegie centric bias myself too. The actual West Coast: Helensburgh, Dumbarton, Greenock, Ayr, Stranraer etc don't fare any better than Edinburgh, Fife, Tayside et al when it comes down to the footballing authorities and media reporting that goes on

The media also perpetuates this

page after page on the "big two"

so anyone would think the others counted for nothing.

I don't buy "national" papers now, restricting myself to the Ayrshire Post- who to their credit are always Ayr Utd on the back page

[Glamorgan Jambo]

I just cannot get too excited about the McLennan story. Yes he works (as a non executive) for a company that to all intents and purposes is controlled by two guys who also to all intents and purposes control Selleck but that's about it. As long as it was declared to the SPFL then I can't see what the fuss is about.

 

Meanwhile we're all waiting to see what on earth Dave King is try to achieve/deflect from with his latest mission.

 

Still no sign of compliance with the Takeover Panel.

Still in Contempt of Court

Still no sign of the rights issues which the major players in Sevco can't participate in until the Takeover Panel is sorted.

Still no explanation or rationale for the resignations of two directors including King's previous factotum Paul Murray.

 

And on the playing side we're told Stevie G has signed 3 players, one of which arrived in January. 

[JackLadd]

Safety certificate to be issued in July? Another year on the effed roofs and security concerns for the now 800 Celtic they are letting in? 

[CJGJ]

King wins a round (as he would see it) as Sfa Director leaves

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44359212

 

The Scottish FA has confirmed that independent non-executive director Gary Hughes will not seek re-election.

The governing body say Hughes "intimated his decision upon return from holiday and the board respects his decision" ahead of Wednesday's AGM.

Last month, Rangers chairman Dave King called for Hughes to be suspended.

 

King wanted an investigation into a newspaper article which suggested Hughes had previously made derogatory remarks about Rangers supporters.

The comments were said to have been made in a magazine article from 2006. The piece from The Publican referred to fans of the Ibrox club as "the great unwashed".

In a statement released by the SFA, Hughes, who joined the organisation in 2015, said: "It has been an honour and a privilege to bring my professional expertise to the game I love.

Edited June 4, 2018 by CJGJ

[DETTY29]

Wonder if this will lead to full on tit for tat.

 

Any Rangers person on any SPFL / SFA Board better not have anything attributed to them with naughty songs.

 

Imagine if Sir Walter had to been given the SFA Chief Exec job that a few in the press craved.

 

He'd would have to be on his bike too.

[Jamboelite]

20 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

King wins a round (as he would see it) as Sfa Director leaves

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44359212

 

The Scottish FA has confirmed that independent non-executive director Gary Hughes will not seek re-election.

The governing body say Hughes "intimated his decision upon return from holiday and the board respects his decision" ahead of Wednesday's AGM.

Last month, Rangers chairman Dave King called for Hughes to be suspended.

 

King wanted an investigation into a newspaper article which suggested Hughes had previously made derogatory remarks about Rangers supporters.

The comments were said to have been made in a magazine article from 2006. The piece from The Publican referred to fans of the Ibrox club as "the great unwashed".

In a statement released by the SFA, Hughes, who joined the organisation in 2015, said: "It has been an honour and a privilege to bring my professional expertise to the game I love.

I can imagine a smug statement from King coming soon.

[JackLadd]

That is pretty incredible that a throwaway non sectarian comment on oldco fans 12 years ago gets the guy fired. Wow. 

[Lovecraft]

At least Hughes hasn't redacted the statement.

 

Means he still thinks they are the great unwashed.   Which they are.

 

 

Edited June 4, 2018 by Lovecraft

[Deevers]

1 hour ago, Jamboelite said:

I can imagine a smug statement from King coming soon.

He'll be demanding that the replacement is a true Rangers man no doubt. Even worse the buffoons at Hampden will bend over backwards to ensure he gets his way.

Edited June 4, 2018 by Deevers

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Lovecraft said:

At least Hughes hasn't redacted the statement.

 

Means he still thinks they are the great unwashed.   Which they are.

 

 

 

The irony is (although I'm sure it will be totally lost on him) his mob are every bit as unwashed!