Dutchmul Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Can King be done for this, which is obviously misleading the shareholders and customers into believing one thing and in this case not fullfiling his promise of investment. Is it a breach of share market rules? Extremely unlikely, he "may" have believed what he was saying was the truth but things have changed since then, not against the law to be a complete and utter fud, unfortunately. Paul Murray wont invest anything in sevco, he has no money and he is also the glib and shameless liars mini me. The liar king has now had a look at the books and is now shitting himself as he now realises it is far far worse than he thought. That is why his mouthpiece is now saying that he wont invest until he has passed the fpp crap, despite only 3 weeks ago trumpeting how much he would put into the club irrespective of the fpp stuff. Also, the cash the 3 stooges have stumped up is being described as an investment, it isn't, it's a loan(unsecured, what a trio of morons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 While MA stays silently waiting for...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 While MA stays silently waiting for...... ...an enormous stool to pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchmul Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ...an enormous stool to pass? A solid number 2 perhaps? to quote the glib and shameless liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well done, TC. People usually call it (wrongly) the Marie Celeste. Even if he'd got it wrong it's still an excellent post:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12XU Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So when is popcorn Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So when is popcorn Sunday? Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 So when is popcorn Sunday? The day before Tit Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 He bought a single share in Sports Direct and decided to be a nuisance, now they're taking him to court and pursuing costs. All a bit odd .. Must admit that if I was a shareholder, I wouldn't be that keen on the likes of Dingwall being able to get my details, and wasn't really aware that could happen.... ....but it does seem like he is legally entitled to it, and SD's lawyers are just trying to bully / intimidate him with the threat of dire financial consequences.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Anyone should be able to see who holds the shares... unless you have something to hide it should not be an issue The problem in this and other countries is the difficulty faced finding out who does control companies/corporations...... that should not be allowed. Edited March 27, 2015 by CJGJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Must admit that if I was a shareholder, I wouldn't be that keen on the likes of Dingwall being able to get my details, and wasn't really aware that could happen.... ....but it does seem like he is legally entitled to it, and SD's lawyers are just trying to bully / intimidate him with the threat of dire financial consequences.... Mark is going to make a nuisance and is quite right, he is going after them in the same way they are consuming his club. I fully support him, regardless of the reasons, the zero hours contracts etc. But what you have here is the legal team for sports direct not acting in the interests of a shareholder? albeit 1 share. I might even donate, because sometime the little guy does need to take on corporate bullies and win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Mark is going to make a nuisance and is quite right, he is going after them in the same way they are consuming his club. I fully support him, regardless of the reasons, the zero hours contracts etc. But what you have here is the legal team for sports direct not acting in the interests of a shareholder? albeit 1 share. I might even donate, because sometime the little guy does need to take on corporate bullies and win! If Dingwall is prepared to go to such lengths to get hold of shareholder details for SD, one would be surprised that he hasn't (to my knowledge) used the same tactic to establish who was behind Blue Pitch, Margarita and Beaufort in RIFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If Dingwall is prepared to go to such lengths to get hold of shareholder details for SD, one would be surprised that he hasn't (to my knowledge) used the same tactic to establish who was behind Blue Pitch, Margarita and Beaufort in RIFC.he would need to buy shares in those companies, and I don't think they will sell to him? Also on this subject you would think that the new regime would have their exposure high on the agenda, as after all they have had 3 weeks to get a shifty under the hood and as promised be open and upfront? Still getting a NOMAD must be high on the agendas well, although they had one lined up did they not? 5 working days before they get delisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altyjambo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think they'll be happy to be delisted. The costs of keeping the listing going are pretty big, and the chances of raising significant funds from external investors pretty small no matter whether they are listed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) . Edited March 27, 2015 by redjambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think they'll be happy to be delisted. The costs of keeping the listing going are pretty big, and the chances of raising significant funds from external investors pretty small no matter whether they are listed or not. You may well be right. But that is not what Mr King said- he said he had a Nomad lined up. He also said he would match other's funding . He also said he would "invest" whether or not he passed the FPP test. He said he had the kid's inheritance of ?30m/?18m/?5m* to invest Looks like the South African Judge is a good judge of character...because that could be perceived as 4 big fibs already. Instead of , or as well as, hounding SD and Mr Ashley, perhaps Mr Dingwall should be seeking some truth from Mr King. *delete etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think they'll be happy to be delisted. The costs of keeping the listing going are pretty big, and the chances of raising significant funds from external investors pretty small no matter whether they are listed or not. How much do you think it costs them? I'll be generous and say up to ?10,000. Per annum fee's to the AIM. They will also probably issue more detailed accounts on a fancy brochure but no doubt would do similar if they weren't listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) . Edited March 27, 2015 by SUTOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) he would need to buy shares in those companies, and I don't think they will sell to him? Also on this subject you would think that the new regime would have their exposure high on the agenda, as after all they have had 3 weeks to get a shifty under the hood and as promised be open and upfront? Still getting a NOMAD must be high on the agendas well, although they had one lined up did they not? 5 working days before they get delisted Correct. Also the rules around hedge funds etc are different. They don't have to declare who owns them to shareholders or what they hold anywhere near as much as what listed companies do. If they are privately owned you can't just buy shares in them. Edited March 27, 2015 by Dalstonjambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Mark is going to make a nuisance and is quite right, he is going after them in the same way they are consuming his club. I fully support him, regardless of the reasons, the zero hours contracts etc. But what you have here is the legal team for sports direct not acting in the interests of a shareholder? albeit 1 share. I might even donate, because sometime the little guy does need to take on corporate bullies and win! Fair comment Hagar. Maybe a bit of "nimbyism" in my post, as I'd never given it much thought about shareholders rights, and just assumed their identities would be covered by Data Protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How much do you think it costs them? I'll be generous and say up to ?10,000. Per annum fee's to the AIM. They will also probably issue more detailed accounts on a fancy brochure but no doubt would do similar if they weren't listed. Probably not much really, it's probably more inconvenient than anything - they're restricted in certain ways and have to make announcements they'd probably prefer not to. The future share issue will bring in money from existing shareholders so they don't really need the market. And who actually wants a Nomad hanging about anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Probably not much really, it's probably more inconvenient than anything - they're restricted in certain ways and have to make announcements they'd probably prefer not to. The future share issue will bring in money from existing shareholders so they don't really need the market. And who actually wants a Nomad hanging about anyway? If there is a rights issue,it will be interesting to see if any of the institutional shareholders take more. I have my doubts on that score. Any money that is raised will come from King, Murray and the three bears. That is if they actually have any that they themselves are willing to invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If there is a rights issue,it will be interesting to see if any of the institutional shareholders take more. I have my doubts on that score. Any money that is raised will come from King, Murray and the three bears. That is if they actually have any that they themselves are willing to invest. That's what I'm getting from this, the share issue is intended to be the vehicle for them putting the promised money in, so AIM would then be of very little interest to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You're right Geoff........I got 1986 and 1998 confused! Still, this article has some interesting topics after al those years. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19890320&id=RjFAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=NFkMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1819,96280&hl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Paul Murray interviewed by James Traynor for the Rangers web site gives some information on various topics. http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/8905-video-paul-murray-exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think it's about the tenth time I've said it on this thread but it still takes my breath away to think Traynor was presented as an impartial voice by the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Surprised the Bigirimana issue hasn't gotten play here yet (or maybe I've missed it): http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/rumour-mill-gael-bigirimana-crisis-scotland-1-3730772 He apparently knew of his medical issues before the transfer was approved. Hard to see the whole loan affair as anything more than more revenue pumping from Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Surprised the Bigirimana issue hasn't gotten play here yet (or maybe I've missed it): http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/rumour-mill-gael-bigirimana-crisis-scotland-1-3730772 He apparently knew of his medical issues before the transfer was approved. Hard to see the whole loan affair as anything more than more revenue pumping from Ashley. Except it's unlikely that the payments (?1K per week per player) will cover anything like these players salaries. And one of the 'unfit' players was selected for the Northern Ireland squad a couple of weeks ago (he eventually withdrew). And another player was deemed fit by Rangers to play for the first team before getting injured. And another is currently playing for their U21s. And no one knows what the rule is that prevents Gael Bigirimana from playing in Scotland while he's clear to play in England. And another player is their top scorer since he came in on loan. This is all classic 'succulent lamb' type journalism from the likes of Jackson to get on the good side of the new ?1brox regime who want to use the loan fiasco as a reason to sack Llambias and Leech for gross misconduct. I notice Murray failed to mention what the status with the financially much more significant McCoist contract. Edited March 27, 2015 by Glamorgan Jambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdannyb Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 He looks like a scared man. Paul Murray interviewed by James Traynor for the Rangers web site gives some information on various topics. http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/8905-video-paul-murray-exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Some very vague, unconvincing and evasive answers from Paul Murray in that interview with Traynor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 McMurdo's take on it. https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/03/27/same-crap-different-board/ Football clubs shares shouldn't be listed and available for anyone to buy. Thats how the real owners, the fans, lose out. I hope HMFC is never listed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Football clubs shares shouldn't be listed and available for anyone to buy. Thats how the real owners, the fans, lose out. I hope HMFC is never listed again. Surely it's the easiest way for fans to by them (other than through an offer of new shares) and if done correctly control can still lie with one party, e,g FoH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 He doesn't even know who is behind bph yet? Aye right also the 15-20 million investment needed Is actually a long term not short term investment wow hands up how many sevco glory hunting fans got fooled into voting by that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Surely it's the easiest way for fans to by them (other than through an offer of new shares) and if done correctly control can still lie with one party, e,g FoH. Didn't we delist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Didn't we delist? Yes we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Mon the Friday nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Some very vague, unconvincing and evasive answers from Paul Murray in that interview with Traynor. keeping the dream alive = its dead jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Mon the Friday nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 They won't get a new Nomad. They'll delist,saving ?300k-500k pa and try to do crowd-funding instead imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deid Heid Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 keeping the dream alive = its dead jim Perfect example of "nailing it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nicky-law-rangers-hated-well-5415074 No one likes us cries N. Law.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nicky-law-rangers-hated-well-5415074 No one likes us cries N. Law.. What a typically shit article from the hun fanzine. Mccall has transformed Law's performances? Aye? The Rangers aren't hated Nick. They're an irrelevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The only thing I'm sure off is if Rangers do get back to the top, Nicky law won't be playing in midfield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deso1972 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The only thing I'm sure off is if Rangers do get back to the top, Nicky law won't be playing in midfield... My thoughts exactly...and Scottish footballs decline will accelerate once more when the skid marked cheek gets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Sevco are a hated irrelevance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nicky-law-rangers-hated-well-5415074 No one likes us cries N. Law.. And the Rangers fans don't like Nicky Law. Does this make him the most hated man in Scottish football? We all despise Elbows, but at least some huns still like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The other issue with a nomad is that for the return they will get relatively rangers are not worth the work. I have a friend of a friend who works for wh Ireland and lets just say it was not worth the hassle even without the legal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Young Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 How good would it be if MA Appointed chuckles as one of his nominated 2 On the board http://www.ibroxnoise.co.uk/2015/03/rangers-cant-stop-charles-green.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nicky-law-rangers-hated-well-5415074 No one likes us cries N. Law.. Statistically, as many as half the clubs in Scotland will have more "days" than most clubs. Law has possibly spoken the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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