shaun.lawson Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Cool, so your considered view is that nothing dodgy at all happened then? Strike one for Team America! My considered view is there probably was a chance to take him alive, and the special forces did otherwise. With regard to which, however much I'm supposed to be a liberal, my heart bleeds for the guy. But beyond that, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Brody Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Bump OK, finally some corroborating evidence. I will happily hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. Cue some smug barstewards with "told you so's". Anyway, if that's the lair, it isn't much of an opulent palace, it's more of a student squat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Clarke Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Cue some smug barstewards with "told you so's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 They got the wrong fekkin man!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Isn't the moral high ground always worth maintaining? They've not held any moral high ground to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 They've not held any moral high ground to maintain. Has the USA ever argued it is taking the moral high ground with regard to Bin Laden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN-QbS0UifM Well,interesting video here,some neighbors near Osama Bin Laden Compound claim its all a lie,this is from a BBC news report; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Believer Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 My considered view is there probably was a chance to take him alive, and the special forces did otherwise. With regard to which, however much I'm supposed to be a liberal, my heart bleeds for the guy. But beyond that, that's it. Seriously? The US get to flout international law and shoot unarmed prisoners based on how bad a guy they're after? Hopefully the parents of children killed in drone attacks share your viewpoint. I can't believe more isn't being made of this, and while I think that they did get him, I completely understand any reluctance to believe the US administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 quote; "Al Qaeda = the base + i arabic word = the data base; al qaeda is basically just a database of names of jihads who fought the commies in afghanistan in the 80s ! pass this on" I guess I'd better call my father in law who has spoken arabic for all 70 years of his life and tell him his arabic is wrong as it was him that told me that Al Qaeda means the base. The database nonsense comes from Robin Cook, who as far as I know isn't a fluent arabic speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I guess I'd better call my father in law who has spoken arabic for all 70 years of his life and tell him his arabic is wrong as it was him that told me that Al Qaeda means the base. The database nonsense comes from Robin Cook, who as far as I know isn't a fluent arabic speaker. What do you have to say to that MaroonLegions? Or is Tazio just another shapeshifting lizard who can't be trusted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Seriously? The US get to flout international law and shoot unarmed prisoners based on how bad a guy they're after? Hopefully the parents of children killed in drone attacks share your viewpoint. I can't believe more isn't being made of this, and while I think that they did get him, I completely understand any reluctance to believe the US administration. The US get to shoot a mass murderer of thousands of their citizens, yes - and to protect their forces in the process. No doubt you were up in arms when Nicolae Ceaucescu was shot by his people in 1989 - or when Saddam Hussein was executed too, were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Believer Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The US get to shoot a mass murderer of thousands of their citizens, yes - and to protect their forces in the process. No doubt you were up in arms when Nicolae Ceaucescu was shot by his people in 1989 - or when Saddam Hussein was executed too, were you? So the rules don't apply to them? Is it just the US that can overule international law or can any country? How about North Korea? What if someone only kills ten people? or two? It's a horrific precident to set. Both Ceaucescu and Hussein were afforded a trial. They were dispicable, horrible people but they recieved the minimum level of consideration afforded by a civilized society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Hayden Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 So the rules don't apply to them? Is it just the US that can overule international law or can any country? How about North Korea? What if someone only kills ten people? or two? It's a horrific precident to set. Both Ceaucescu and Hussein were afforded a trial. They were dispicable, horrible people but they recieved the minimum level of consideration afforded by a civilized society. What do you suggest they do? Ssay "Yup, he's there, let's go home and file extradition papers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Believer Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 What do you suggest they do? Ssay "Yup, he's there, let's go home and file extradition papers" They should take the most appropriate action within the law. Suppose they decide that Julian Assange is guilty of espionage, turn up in the UK in a couple of helicopters, kill members of his family, kill people that have been hired as guards, shoot him in the head and then piss off back to the states. All ok I presume? They're the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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