Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Undecided. He is our top scorer isn't he? We probably wouldn't be third without him....but then if we had a colin cameron type player maybe we would be even more clear in third. If he isn't on massive wages then keep him, but he should not be first name on the team sheet like he is just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Undecided. He is our top scorer isn't he? We probably wouldn't be third without him....but then if we had a colin cameron type player maybe we would be even more clear in third. If he isn't on massive wages then keep him, but he should not be first name on the team sheet like he is just now. His goals have been hugely important but I can't help but think if we added a different type of midfielder and a goal scoring striker we would be better off for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjambo Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. Bit unfair when he is obviously not 100% fit. Blame JJ for picking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Needs managing properly. Doesnt look fit enough to me to last 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. I suspect his lack (or minimum) pre season has really started to take its toll, DH. Another who fall's in to the "good pre season" file - that said, there does seem to be a few who are falling it to that part of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I suspect his lack (or minimum) pre season has really started to take its toll, DH. Another who fall's in to the "good pre season" file - that said, there does seem to be a few who are falling it to that part of things. This. He's our top scorer and hasn't played a lot of football in the last couple of seasons. I expect him to be better next year with a full pre-season under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree let's get rid of our top scoring midfield player, jeeso. He's clearly not fit and is managing an injury. Would be ridiculous not to renew his contract. Full rest and pre season will do him the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I say keep him but won't be broken hearted if he goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Bit unfair when he is obviously not 100% fit. Blame JJ for picking him. Needs managing properly. Doesnt look fit enough to me to last 90 minutes. I suspect his lack (or minimum) pre season has really started to take its toll, DH. Another who fall's in to the "good pre season" file - that said, there does seem to be a few who are falling it to that part of things. I agree he doesn't look fit - his recent injury problem won't have helped his performances either. I'm just not convinced he has enough left in his tank to give us another season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree let's get rid of our top scoring midfield player, jeeso. He's clearly not fit and is managing an injury. Would be ridiculous not to renew his contract. Full rest and pre season will do him the world of good. To be fair, if I travelled up to Inverness I would be raging at Skacel, but from an objective point of view I think he is struggling either with a niggling injury or fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I certainly wouldn't play him away from home, I can't remember him having a good game anywhere apart from Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree he doesn't look fit - his recent injury problem won't have helped his performances either. I'm just not convinced he has enough left in his tank to give us another season. Would imagine that the length of his contract (or clauses) will be the main issue with this, DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodemac Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree let's get rid of our top scoring midfield player, jeeso. He's clearly not fit and is managing an injury. Would be ridiculous not to renew his contract. Full rest and pre season will do him the world of good. he is an inspiration to the young lads in the team, lets not be silly of course we should renew his contract, he loves playing for us and is not fully fit, MON RUDI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamb-oz Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Would be mad not to give him another year. Playing from midfield scoring 11 league goals, 3 assists, making that about a third of our total goals tally. More depth and quality in the midfield next season he could be an excellent squad player. One of the best players i have seen play for hearts and watching the quality of his goals this season (Esp hattrick against St. Mirren)shows he's still got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. Good grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I think he has done enough to merit a new deal, but at the moment he's a waste of a strip away fom home. If Jefferies can give him a boot up the arse he will be a very valueable player for us next season, providing his deal is extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I think we will keep him for another season and I am happy if that turns out to be the case. I think Jim will be delighted with the return he has offered. I too would like another attacking centre-mid though. If we had a younger and fitter cm with a bit more stamina and younger legs, then we would be able to use him more sparingly and not burn him out so much. I like the guy as a player but it is frustrating when he does not turn up at times, whether that is to do with fitness or injury I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I think we will keep him for another season and I am happy if that turns out to be the case. I think Jim will be delighted with the return he has offered. I too would like another attacking centre-mid though. If we had a younger and fitter cm with a bit more stamina and younger legs, then we would be able to use him more sparingly and not burn him out so much. I like the guy as a player but it is frustrating when he does not turn up at times, whether that is to do with fitness or injury I am not sure. Scott Robinson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty1984 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. Unbelievable chat. He had a bad game yesterday, deal with it. The threat he carries in home games alone is enought to warrant a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Unbelievable chat. He had a bad game yesterday, deal with it. The threat he carries in home games alone is enought to warrant a new deal. He's had a lot of bad games imo. He is like a man short away from home and I don't think we a good enough to carry that type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I think the suggestion he has not been fit and needs a pre-season doesn't really wash. He was never exactly a 90 minute player (or if so very very rarely). Nevertheless a very useful addition to the squad (not an automatic pick to start every game), if he fits the wage structure we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 He's had a lot of bad games imo. He is like a man short away from home and I don't think we a good enough to carry that type of player. We need to play to his strengths but our lack of depth means he is having to play in positions not really suited to him. He probably is a luxury player but his goals tally justifies his inclusion, particularly at home. I would give him another year as a good pre-season could see him be more consistent and fitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Like all players at the end of the season decisions have to be made -- not only down to football but also down to salary issues and the breakthrough of young players as well as what alternatives are available in the market. Now Rudi has been a good signing this seaon and even his detractors should be able to admit that. Next season we would need to be sure of his fitness first prior to a commtment to another, no doubt well paid contract -- if he was to be fit then we can look at it as a footballing decision to be made by JJ. Like the team his standards have slipped partly due to the longrunning injury saga and partly due to the injury situation as a whole within the squad -- we have numbers but not quality especially in a couple of key positions. Now my view is that he is worth another season if fitness is not a concern but finance and what other players we could miss out on if his salary was freed for other signings need to be taken into account and only Vlad and perhaps JJ know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty1984 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 He's had a lot of bad games imo. He is like a man short away from home and I don't think we a good enough to carry that type of player. I agree he had had some bad games, but he is a match winner. The man can turn poor performances by the team into 3 points. I don't believe that you would really say no to a contract extension for him. He's the first name on the teamsheet in home games, but perhaps we should use him sparingly away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree he had had some bad games, but he is a match winner. The man can turn poor performances by the team into 3 points. I don't believe that you would really say no to a contract extension for him. He's the first name on the teamsheet in home games, but perhaps we should use him sparingly away from home. I'd rather see his wage go to a goalscoring CF tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 He's not on a 5yr deal or anything so it is up to Jim whether he is kept on for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Scott Robinson? If he signs a new contract then I am sure he will play a pivitol role next season. Can't help but feel we need someone with a more complete game than him too though, someone who will pass the ball about well and can operate further back as well as in an acm/cf role. Robinson looks really dangerous in an attacking sense but I have not seen an awfull lot of him to make up my mind about the other qualities needed to be a regular start in central midfield. What's to say that he would not end up offering as little as Skacel in these parts of the role? This has all been said many times before but we need a complete midfielder come the summer I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 He's not on a 5yr deal or anything so it is up to Jim whether he is kept on for another year. Insightful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartleys_Jam_Tart Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I love Rudi as much as the next fan , but I think he is finished . Too many games this season he has been posted missing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I wonder if DH's opinion would differ had JJ signed him and not Vlad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 I wonder if DH's opinion would differ had JJ signed him and not Vlad... Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal Kingston Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I don't think we should extend his contract. It's like playing with 10 men. Clearly you do not attend home matches. One of the only Hearts players with genuine class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Clearly you do not attend home matches. One of the only Hearts players with genuine class. Clearly you do not attend away matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I did say yesterday I didn't notice he was on until he got subbed. I think we should extend his contract though. He is a luxury player but one I would very much like to keep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 When you are finished playing with them, DH - can you put them back in their box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Insightful stuff. I thought so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 When you are finished playing with them, DH - can you put them back in their box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 If he signs a new contract then I am sure he will play a pivitol role next season. Can't help but feel we need someone with a more complete game than him too though, someone who will pass the ball about well and can operate further back as well as in an acm/cf role. Robinson looks really dangerous in an attacking sense but I have not seen an awfull lot of him to make up my mind about the other qualities needed to be a regular start in central midfield. What's to say that he would not end up offering as little as Skacel in these parts of the role? This has all been said many times before but we need a complete midfielder come the summer I think. His cameo appearance last week told me all I need to know. Get him signed up. Another 'Holy Grail' attacking midfielder ala Cameron/Hartley is required though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Similar to his first time here in that he seems to have gone off the boil in the 2nd half of season. However top scorer (from midfield and when did that last happen) and still has he best basic skill in the squad. I think he would benefit from better midfielders around him. Also, could be excellent for the developing youngsters to learn from. On balance I think I'd offer him another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal Kingston Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Clearly you do not attend away matches. Ha ha! You've got my number! He has been outstanding at Tynecastle this season. Probably the most home goals from any player in the SPL and he plays midfield. He's also scored the first goal on a number of occasions that has relaxed the team. Under Laszlo you never knew where the goals were coming from - Rudi puts the ball in the onion bag. You have a point though - Why does he not do the business away from home? JJ needs to address this. But to not extend his contract would be a MASSIVE mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I agree he doesn't look fit - his recent injury problem won't have helped his performances either. I'm just not convinced he has enough left in his tank to give us another season. I agree he isn't fit at the moment, and in many, if not most, games away from Tynecastle he fails to provide the same input he does at Tynecastle. In fact in some away matches you often tend to forget he is on the park so little does he contribute. A hard pre season might help him. In terms of getting rid of him at the moment, I'd probably say no. I'd prefer to see us get an additional, similar type player in midfield, and possibly, if required, use Skacel a bit more sparingly next season, because when he is good he is very good. Competition for places tends to bring out the best in players, and can only help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 His cameo appearance last week told me all I need to know. Get him signed up. Another 'Holy Grail' attacking midfielder ala Cameron/Hartley is required though. Hmmmm... Been here before with snap judgments based on too few appearances. "Holy Grail" is required whether Robinson or Skacel are here next season or not I reckon, that would be a top priority for me. I don't think either Robinson or Rudi are ever going to be that much missed player for us, not to say they are not very good or usefull players when doing what they do best themselves though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton'sUnderpants Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Love Rudi as much as the next guy but I don't think the issue is any injury I think he is probably knackered in terms of fitness. Possibly continue to work well as an impact sub but would need to make sure he was on wages reflecting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hmmmm... Been here before with snap judgments based on too few appearances. "Holy Grail" is required whether Robinson or Skacel are here next season or not I reckon, that would be a top priority for me. I don't think either Robinson or Rudi are ever going to be that much missed player for us, not to say they are not very good or usefull players when doing what they do best themselves though. I know a player when I see one. As an example, Jason Thomson is mince. Eggert Jonsson is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Most of the posts in favour of keeping Rudi seem to see him a bit-part player next season. Is that really enough ? Will we have a squad strong enough to carry Rudi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 He's one of the few match-winners we have. Keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Most of the posts in favour of keeping Rudi seem to see him a bit-part player next season. Is that really enough ? Will we have a squad strong enough to carry Rudi ? If scoring in double figures from midfield is "bit-part", I think we should find some more bit-part players. Unfortunately we will never have any players who are without weaknesses (not for very long certainly). Every player in our squad needs "carrying" to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Finished at 32 nonsense , he has done more than enough to deserve another year , our only midfielder who regularly gets in the box ,our only player you expect to score almost every time he shoots ,when we eventually get a centre midfielder who can pick a pass it will help him aswell as our wingers . Yes a better player in front of his own fans ,maybe he needs to be used differently away from home . How a player who has scored 11 goals in 25 games be considered as not good enough is beyond me . There are others who's contracts should be reviewed before his . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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