P-Dizzle Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think the OP will be amazed to see you've converted his niece into a "young man". You concede the point about not subjecting a youngster with violence but go onto convey the scenario of you being involved in a square go with the racist deviant? And yet you maintain it is not about 'manhood'? Peculiar. With a child in tow you do not get involved. You remove the following scenarios: A confrontation with the child at risk of being hurt (and this going to happen). Or a confrontation which results in the police carting you off with the child left stranded (cops have been known not to listen to pleas with "what about my kid?" when bundling someone into the van). OP was correct not to seek confrontation and remove both he (and more importantly, the child) away from the scene. EDIT: have just seen OP's response to this poster. Look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossmaroon Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 Good to know. I understand your circumstances and how they might prevent appropriate action. But you must see that it wasn't explained in your original post and you looked like someone out for a rant who wouldn't back it up when it counted. Upon further reading, it seems he was a speaker? And not just some drunk **** who wanted to spew his bile? I clearly see the implications of a confrontation when in the company of a friend who is a member. My dad never put up with that stuff, and I remember him nearly coming to blows with a guy when I was six for shouting racial slurs in a pub while I was there. I'm sorry if I came across to strong, but I find people who do nothing then complain later just as bad as the instigator. I am the first person to speak my mind even if it gets me into bother, and have managed to get rid of a few racist ****bags near me in the Wheatfiled by complaint, confrontation and the face to face threats (usually with the polis nearby, right enough!). My profession (teacher) precludes violence of any kind and I must consider the economic and career-ending consequences before acting. That said, I fight my corner against all racist and sectarian chants both before and during games and felt that this forum might be a place to debate this matter in a grown-up manner. Anyone who knows me knows that I am no shrinking violet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I am the first person to speak my mind even if it gets me into bother, and have managed to get rid of a few racist ****bags near me in the Wheatfiled by complaint, confrontation and the face to face threats (usually with the polis nearby, right enough!). My profession (teacher) precludes violence of any kind and I must consider the economic and career-ending consequences before acting. That said, I fight my corner against all racist and sectarian chants both before and during games and felt that this forum might be a place to debate this matter in a grown-up manner. Anyone who knows me knows that I am no shrinking violet! And it was, I didn't act immature in my responce. Which I now see was OTT given the extenuating circumstances for avoiding confrontation. As for putting your job at risk, it's a sad state of affairs where a teacher could jeopardise his position by confronting a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If I'm being honest, I think the OP is talking complete bollocks! The Merchie is not a favourite watering hole of mine, and I've had my run ins with them in the past, but I don't believe for a minute they would let a "BIG STEVIE" drink in there who walked in the door and shouted what the OP claimed was shouted. The whole story sounds really far fetched to me, especially as I know a lot of people who do drink in there and none of them have mentioned "BIG STEVIE" Might I suggest the OP applies for a job on Jackanory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If I'm being honest, I think the OP is talking complete bollocks! The Merchie is not a favourite watering hole of mine, and I've had my run ins with them in the past, but I don't believe for a minute they would let a "BIG STEVIE" drink in there who walked in the door and shouted what the OP claimed was shouted. The whole story sounds really far fetched to me, especially as I know a lot of people who do drink in there and none of them have mentioned "BIG STEVIE" Might I suggest the OP applies for a job on Jackanory? Nice line. I'm not familiar with the club, I don't see what the OP has to gain by lying. But you clearly do know this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Nice line. I'm not familiar with the club, I don't see what the OP has to gain by lying. But you clearly do know this place. It's a clique of a place mate, I found that out the hard way, but I don't for a minute think they would let someone drink there that came in and shouted that upon entrance what the OP suggested, they're quite strict when they want to be in there the gits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 It's a clique of a place mate, I found that out the hard way, but I don't for a minute think they would let someone drink there that came in and shouted that upon entrance what the OP suggested, they're quite strict when they want to be in there thet gits Yeah, I thought that it was some drunk coming in shouting his head off. But the OP made it sound like he was a speaker, and clearly known to the bar staff. Anyway, I've said my piece. I spoke of my discontent at his lack of responce, then apologized for the severity of my post. I have both bases coverd if it turns out to be true or bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Yeah, I thought that it was some drunk coming in shouting his head off. But the OP made it sound like he was a speaker, and clearly known to the bar staff. Anyway, I've said my piece. I spoke of my discontent at his lack of responce, then apologized for the severity of my post. I have both bases coverd if it turns out to be true or bollocks. I like your thinking, but I'm happy to say it's bollocks and nail my nuts firmly on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I like your thinking, but I'm happy to say it's bollocks and nail my nuts firmly on the line Good o' Looks like it's just us answering eachother now. OP, feel free to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgenerator Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Good to know. I understand your circumstances and how they might prevent appropriate action. But you must see that it wasn't explained in your original post and you looked like someone out for a rant who wouldn't back it up when it counted. Upon further reading, it seems he was a speaker? And not just some drunk **** who wanted to spew his bile? I clearly see the implications of a confrontation when in the company of a friend who is a member. My dad never put up with that stuff, and I remember him nearly coming to blows with a guy when I was six for shouting racial slurs in a pub while I was there. I'm sorry if I came across to strong, but I find people who do nothing then complain later just as bad as the instigator. I don't mean to be harsh, but that is total B-S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilbrideJambo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 wherever it happens around Hearts it should be challenged. I admire the guy sitting behind me at the Motherwell away game a few weeks ago who was with his really young lad and took on the idiot sitting behind him regarding his racist abuse of Obua ("get to **** back to Congo you black b******). Charming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The specialist Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I admire the guy sitting behind me at the Motherwell away game a few weeks ago who was with his really young lad and took on the idiot sitting behind him regarding his racist abuse of Obua ("get to **** back to Congo) An easy mistake to make, Congo borders Uganda afterall. The specialist:2thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydi Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 ive also got 2 boys 11 and 9 season tickets for long time been goin on the train from larbert with our mates one or two tins( dads and boys pals)goin to pub is part of the day. we get off train at haymerket an go to scotts gaurds few pints sit in beer garden kids play about no hassle no probs. the boys are our future they love the day train, pub an footie. pick yr boozer the boys will love the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilbrideJambo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 An easy mistake to make, Congo borders Uganda afterall. The specialist:2thumbsup: indeed - i like to think it was indicative of his general capcity on most matters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Due to new licensing laws, I was unable to take my niece to the Station Bar before Hibs game. Instead, I took her to the Merchie where I was told to use the family area the back. Now, although supposedly the family area, I was told to be prepared for the arrival of BIG STEVIE, who I was told was a little racist, but good fun: an oxymoron if ever one existed!Stevie duly arrived on the scene with the screamed proclamation: I hate *******, *******, Jews, Spics, wops, catholics and poofs. And, I'm proud of it!This moron then held court, with an audience of people forced to use this area. There were two young brothers who hung on every word of this cretin and It felt depressingly like a recruitment camp for the BNP. Now, you too might be in the same boat, where the only place you can take your kids before the game is the Merchiston Hearts Supporters Club. However, you should not have to put up with this racist crap and I hpoe that you will complain if this same moron acts like this again (tomorrow, for example). If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. So tell me, were you part of the solution or the problem in this sorry situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 An easy mistake to make, Congo borders Uganda afterall. The specialist:2thumbsup: Unless he meant the other Congo, in which case he was way off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The specialist Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Unless he meant the other Congo, in which case he was way off... True. Lets give a fellow Hearts fan the benefit of doubt however. The specialist:2thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 What I think is utterly out of order, and I am complaing bitterly, I don't mind being referred to as Filth because of previous occupation, but when you refer to my Regiment as Scotts Guards I just boil over. The title is Scots Guards. I am not really angry just showing how we all have our hates, loves, and different principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The specialist Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 What I think is utterly out of order, and I am complaing bitterly, I don't mind being referred to as Filth because of previous occupation, but when you refer to my Regiment as Scotts Guards I just boil over. The title is Scots Guards. I am not really angry just showing how we all have our hates, loves, and different principles. You don't mind being referred to as FILTH yet the mis-spelling of your regiment makes you boil over.. Personally, the mis-spelling of 'complaining' sends me wild. Yours bitterly, The specialist:2thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 You don't mind being referred to as FILTH yet the mis-spelling of your regiment makes you boil over.. Personally, the mis-spelling of 'complaining' sends me wild. Yours bitterly, The specialist:2thumbsup: You really really remind me of someone else on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 You don't mind being referred to as FILTH yet the mis-spelling of your regiment makes you boil over.. Personally, the mis-spelling of 'complaining' sends me wild. Yours bitterly, The specialist:2thumbsup: Just one spelling error to ensure that all were paying attention:smiley2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The specialist Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 You really really remind me of someone else on here Pray tell. No one can be so lucky. The specialist:2thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Mince Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Yet how on earth is a serious issue like racism ever to be debated on JKB if whoever raises it runs the risk of their manhood being questioned? Read his post again. He had a child with him. What responsible adult seeks verbal and possible violent confrontation with a child in proximity? Maybe that's why he may have done nothing at the time and chose to move on lest an already uncomfortable situation escalate into something potentially damaging to either him or a younger relation. Spot on, Matty. Getting pretty sick of reading this place at times. Standard response after standard response after standard response after... From kids with little life experience no less! I punched a couple of Hibbies at the last derby (after hefty provocation and having them "square up" to me ) - This wouldn't have happened if I was setting an example to my boy and had more to lose than my good looks. Mince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Pray tell. No one can be so lucky. The specialist:2thumbsup: Unfortunately it's against the rules to name them if they haven't posted on the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Due to new licensing laws, I was unable to take my niece to the Station Bar before Hibs game. Instead, I took her to the Merchie where I was told to use the family area the back. Now, although supposedly the family area, I was told to be prepared for the arrival of BIG STEVIE, who I was told was a little racist, but good fun: an oxymoron if ever one existed!Stevie duly arrived on the scene with the screamed proclamation: I hate *******, *******, Jews, Spics, wops, catholics and poofs. And, I'm proud of it!This moron then held court, with an audience of people forced to use this area. There were two young brothers who hung on every word of this cretin and It felt depressingly like a recruitment camp for the BNP. Now, you too might be in the same boat, where the only place you can take your kids before the game is the Merchiston Hearts Supporters Club. However, you should not have to put up with this racist crap and I hpoe that you will complain if this same moron acts like this again (tomorrow, for example). Did you pull him up at the time or simply made the decision to come on here and moan about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 If I'm being honest, I think the OP is talking complete bollocks! The Merchie is not a favourite watering hole of mine, and I've had my run ins with them in the past, but I don't believe for a minute they would let a "BIG STEVIE" drink in there who walked in the door and shouted what the OP claimed was shouted. The whole story sounds really far fetched to me, especially as I know a lot of people who do drink in there and none of them have mentioned "BIG STEVIE" Might I suggest the OP applies for a job on Jackanory? agree with you john. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenerjambo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I sometimes take the kids into the "family room" and was there 2 weeks ago.I can't recall hearing anybody ranting on about racist subjects though?? Can't say I've ever heard or seen of anybody causing bother there or in the main hall when I go in there without the kids. Must admit though I wouldn't let my 7year old daughter listen to this (there's quite a lot of ethnic kids in her school)and would definitely tell whoever to calm it down for the kids sake. It's usually fine in the family room and when I was a kid I used to like all the atmosphere before a match in the pub or club (no drink of course) and it was good to see the Uncle's and cousins etc which you hardly saw during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I sometimes take the kids into the "family room" and was there 2 weeks ago.I can't recall hearing anybody ranting on about racist subjects though?? Can't say I've ever heard or seen of anybody causing bother there or in the main hall when I go in there without the kids. Must admit though I wouldn't let my 7year old daughter listen to this (there's quite a lot of ethnic kids in her school)and would definitely tell whoever to calm it down for the kids sake. It's usually fine in the family room and when I was a kid I used to like all the atmosphere before a match in the pub or club (no drink of course) and it was good to see the Uncle's and cousins etc which you hardly saw during the week. Are you going up to the club this morning Scott, and if so what time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Khan Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Ive two boys age's 9 and 6 and i dont take them to a pub because im a better dad/uncle than you. If u had someone talking like that in the seat next to you at tynecastle than fair enough. You were in a boozer, does it really matter if you dont get a couple of pints before the game? Dont get me wrong because its in a pub it doesnt make it acceptable however such is life in dodgy boozers. Harsh but true! Do you mind? I've been is some "dodgy boozers" in my time but the MHSC certainly isn't one of them!! It's more akin to a bowling club atmosphere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Good to know. I understand your circumstances and how they might prevent appropriate action. But you must see that it wasn't explained in your original post and you looked like someone out for a rant who wouldn't back it up when it counted. Upon further reading, it seems he was a speaker? And not just some drunk **** who wanted to spew his bile? I clearly see the implications of a confrontation when in the company of a friend who is a member. My dad never put up with that stuff, and I remember him nearly coming to blows with a guy when I was six for shouting racial slurs in a pub while I was there. I'm sorry if I came across to strong, but I find people who do nothing then complain later just as bad as the instigator. I think he was pretty clear in what he was saying in his original post... In all honesty mate it looked to me like you were dying to come in and play devil's advocate... "Two sides to every story, ol' chap" and all that. I garnered from his post that he was with a wee lassie and did not want to stoop to the level of the stroker in the 'family room' and so did not say anything... By coming on here and mentioning it, he appears to be trying to determine what other people feel about such things since it is really common in the pubs around Tynie on match-days... Perhaps he wants to find out what his chances are of getting some support from the public if his confrontation with the semi-retarded t.wat turns into 'BIG Stevie' and his wee band of thick minions kicking him in the head in front of his neice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenerjambo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Are you going up to the club this morning Scott, and if so what time. I'm working again this Saturday starting just before 4.Lucky it's an early kick off or I would have missed the match! Might get time to nip in for a cola or 2 if the bairns and Vera get their bums in gear. If I don't see you then I'll see you on the bus going to Killie next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojackbilly Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 n- This kind of "be like us" redneck attitude is prevalent throughout the proletariat in Scotland, so it is no surprise that the "let's get bevvied up" before the game merchants who belong to this rather sad rump within our society make themselves known for a short time every Saturday before going home to beat the wife and kids ******** I was chuckle when posters post tripe like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossmaroon Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Two things: if I had not been with my niece (my wife dropped out late) I would not have been in the club and so would not have had to endure this neanderthal. However, IF I had been in the club on my own or IF the guy had acted the same way in the Station where I normally go I would have spoken up, whether it resulted in a bit of rough and tumble or not. It would have been unfortunate as I would have embarrassed the member who signed me in and could have landed me in court with serious consequences for my career; but I feel that it is necessary to make a stand. That is the reason for my post, which sought to identify and hopefully shame the tosser involved and hopefully persuade him to keep his odious opinions to himself in future. By the way, I only mentioned some of this guys antics. When the team was announced witout Obua, he was high-fiving his accolytes and hugging the afore mentioned wee boys that the black ******* was not playing. This guy was both provocative and obnoxious. I did not post to rile or antagonise, but to seek support from the decent majority. The debate on here so far suggests taht there is indeed a problem which needs to be addressed. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansdad Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 why are you having to take someone under age for a drink it is possible though difficult to watch Hearts sober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojackbilly Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 You will always get loud mouths in pubs no matter where you go slavering about all insundry Some people just love the sound of their own voice especially when they have an audience But to save any more uncomfortable experiences look for somewhere else to go, must be a few places that cater for your needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Two things: if I had not been with my niece (my wife dropped out late) I would not have been in the club and so would not have had to endure this neanderthal. However, IF I had been in the club on my own or IF the guy had acted the same way in the Staion where I normally go I would have spoken up, whether it resulted in a bit of rough and tumble or not. It would have been unfortunate as I would have embarrassed the member who signed me in and could have landed me in court with serious consequences for my career; but I feel that it is necessary to make a stand. That is the reason for my post, which sought to identify and hopefully shame the tosser involved and hopefully persuade him to keep his odious opinions to himself in future.By the way, I only mentioned some of this guys antics. When the team was announced witout Obua, he was high-fiving his accolytes and hugging the afore mentioned wee boys that the black ******* was not playing. This guy was both provocative and obnoxious. I did not post to rile or antagonise, but to seek support from the decent majority. The debate on here so far suggests taht there is indeed a problem which needs to be addressed. Thanks. I don't really see what else you can do mate... When meeting up with folk before the game I have to endure a fair amount of this crap but have become quite apathetic to it and put it down to just being the done thing in well... Certain bars... They do not let kids in though so I suppose it is not nearly as bad... I wouldn't even think about confronting anyone in there about it though as so many people seem to love the wee sing-songs about race that I would expect a pretty swift kicking. However if I was sure that enough people were willing to bail in if I was mobbed then I probably would... Dunno though, I say that now, maybe at the time I wouldn't who knows... Pretty daunting prospect when it is coming from so many people eh? I would recomend Diggers or the Caley Sample Room next time if you have a kid with you and if they let kids in. My girlfriend's parents are Indian and she therefor is dark skinned and looks like what these retards would call a pak! and I have been in Diggers and the Caley with her on match days and never had any bother or cause for embarassment... Wouldn't take her anywhere near some of the other dives though. Oh, we've never had any bother in the Tynie arms either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanHearts Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Two things: if I had not been with my niece (my wife dropped out late) I would not have been in the club and so would not have had to endure this neanderthal. However, IF I had been in the club on my own or IF the guy had acted the same way in the Station where I normally go I would have spoken up, whether it resulted in a bit of rough and tumble or not. It would have been unfortunate as I would have embarrassed the member who signed me in and could have landed me in court with serious consequences for my career; but I feel that it is necessary to make a stand. That is the reason for my post, which sought to identify and hopefully shame the tosser involved and hopefully persuade him to keep his odious opinions to himself in future.By the way, I only mentioned some of this guys antics. When the team was announced witout Obua, he was high-fiving his accolytes and hugging the afore mentioned wee boys that the black ******* was not playing. This guy was both provocative and obnoxious. I did not post to rile or antagonise, but to seek support from the decent majority. The debate on here so far suggests taht there is indeed a problem which needs to be addressed. Thanks. Just read throught the "highlights" of this thread and I can't beleive the grief you received for raising a valid concern and a relevant incident on a Hearts forum. Happily I do not beleive that the posts on this thread represent a true cross section of Hearts fans. If they did then we truely do have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Two things: if I had not been with my niece (my wife dropped out late) I would not have been in the club and so would not have had to endure this neanderthal. However, IF I had been in the club on my own or IF the guy had acted the same way in the Station where I normally go I would have spoken up, whether it resulted in a bit of rough and tumble or not. It would have been unfortunate as I would have embarrassed the member who signed me in and could have landed me in court with serious consequences for my career; but I feel that it is necessary to make a stand. That is the reason for my post, which sought to identify and hopefully shame the tosser involved and hopefully persuade him to keep his odious opinions to himself in future.By the way, I only mentioned some of this guys antics. When the team was announced witout Obua, he was high-fiving his accolytes and hugging the afore mentioned wee boys that the black ******* was not playing. This guy was both provocative and obnoxious. I did not post to rile or antagonise, but to seek support from the decent majority. The debate on here so far suggests taht there is indeed a problem which needs to be addressed. Thanks. I'm curious as to why you feel it would be acceptable to get into a confrontation with your neice present in the Station Bar, and not in the Merchie, having previously stated her being there was the reason for not doing anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm curious as to why you feel it would be acceptable to get into a confrontation with your neice present in the Station Bar, and not in the Merchie, having previously stated her being there was the reason for not doing anything? Really? You see that as the pertinent point of his post???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Really? You see that as the pertinent point of his post???? Not really, I don't think any of it's pertinent, mainly due to the fact I think it's a complete fantasy, I'm just curious as to why the location makes a difference as to whether you get into a confrontation in front of a child or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Not really, I don't think any of it's pertinent, mainly due to the fact I think it's a complete fantasy, I'm just curious as to why the location makes a difference as to whether you get into a confrontation in front of a child or not? I'm curious as to why you believe it is pure fantasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Did you pull him up at the time or simply made the decision to come on here and moan about it? also, why has it taken him two weeks to mention big/little stevie. maybe he's been at the cooking sherry last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm curious as to why you believe it is pure fantasy? Having been around, and an ex member of the Merchie who's been asked to leave for laughing during the bingo, just a feeling There's no way anyone would get away regularly with that kind of behaviour in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Having been around, and an ex member of the Merchie who's been asked to leave for laughing during the bingo, just a feeling There's no way anyone would get away regularly with that kind of behaviour in there. did they take their key back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 did they take their key back. They did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Having been around, and an ex member of the Merchie who's been asked to leave for laughing during the bingo, just a feeling There's no way anyone would get away regularly with that kind of behaviour in there. I do not think he would go to such lengths to make up a story like that when he stands to gain nothing at all from it except some posts doubting his honesty. I used to live opposite the Merchie for six years, never went in to the MHSC but while waiting on a bus to go up town I heard a couple of guys from there giving it all that crap while they were having a snout outside... Maybe standards have dropped since you used to frequent and they are allowed to continue such conversations inside at volume now? Seems just as likely as the OP making up fantastic stories to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I do not think he would go to such lengths to make up a story like that when he stands to gain nothing at all from it except some posts doubting his honesty. I used to live opposite the Merchie for six years, never went in to the MHSC but while waiting on a bus to go up town I heard a couple of guys from there giving it all that crap while they were having a snout outside... Maybe standards have dropped since you used to frequent and they are allowed to continue such conversations inside at volume now? Seems just as likely as the OP making up fantastic stories to me? You could be right, it still doesn't explain what the location has to do with getting into a confrontaion with his neice present though, which is after all what I was wondering about in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 You could be right, it still doesn't explain what the location has to do with getting into a confrontaion with his neice present though, which is after all what I was wondering about in the first place? I wouldn't want to speak for the OP but if it was me then i would propbably feel I was more able to gauge the likely reaction to my 'speaking up' if it was my local and I knew more of the people in the place. In unfamiliar surroundings and having been pre-warned by the staff about their racist regular then I would be less inclined to say ought either i reckon... For all you would know the whole place could be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentRomanov Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I wouldn't want to speak for the OP but if it was me then i would propbably feel I was more able to gauge the likely reaction to my 'speaking up' if it was my local and I knew more of the people in the place. In unfamiliar surroundings and having been pre-warned by the staff about their racist regular then I would be less inclined to say ought either i reckon... For all you would know the whole place could be like that. And for all you know, the OP could be making the whole thing up, which is what I suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 And for all you know, the OP could be making the whole thing up, which is what I suspect What would he have to gain from that though? Seems pretty unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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