upgotheheads Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Vargas is one of our most consistent performers, he's a 6 or more just about every game, while Forrest can be a 5 one week and 7 the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, mellors1874 said: How on earth is Grant even starting today he was a passenger last week. he wasn't alone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors1874 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, upgotheheads said: he wasn't alone though. No he wasn't but was worse player for me last weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 There’s a few in that team I’m surprised have kept their place. Rowles, Vargas, Grant etc. And Lembikisa always gives me the fear when I see his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 4 hours ago, maggieb said: All good captain ,living the dream/above ground etc👌👌👌👌👌. 👌 you ok ? Still abroad? 👍 Still In France, but not for long now. We can’t wait to get away, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Vargas is one of our most consistent performers, he's a 6 or more just about every game, while Forrest can be a 5 one week and 7 the next. I’d be starting Vargas most weeks. He’s got better since he’s been here, will get better still, and Forrest and Oda were just as poor last week. Edited April 27 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 10 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Killie are a handy side. Fashioned a few good opportunities at Tynie against us and are a hard working team with a bit needle about them. We need to be at the races today. Id take the draw now as like you say they are no mugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I guess we're going with 3 centre halves today. Plays to the strengths of Rowles and Kingsley and makes it a bit easier on Lembiksa And they have to go at us Utterly baffling still why we played with a back 4 at hampden last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: I guess we're going with 3 centre halves today. Plays to the strengths of Rowles and Kingsley and makes it a bit easier on Lembiksa And they have to go at us Utterly baffling still why we played with a back 4 at hampden last week Killie with two lumps up front. A back 3 makes sense today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik5122 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 13 minutes ago, mellors1874 said: How on earth is Grant even starting today he was a passenger last week. That's the thing vargas getting ripped,fair enough but at least he took part in the game,did anyone notice that Grant was even playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’d be starting Vargas most weeks. He’s got better since he’s been here, will get better still, and Forrest and Oda were just as poor last week. Oda gets far more shots away and hits the target more than Vargas who has pace but little quality. Forrest is a squad man and never a first pick going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HeartsandonlyHearts Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 19 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: There’s a few in that team I’m surprised have kept their place. Rowles, Vargas, Grant etc. And Lembikisa always gives me the fear when I see his name. Lembikisa should have started last week. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 19 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: There’s a few in that team I’m surprised have kept their place. Rowles, Vargas, Grant etc. And Lembikisa always gives me the fear when I see his name. You can’t drop them all and those players got us to this position. We need to put last week behind us and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 TBH I don't think we have anything to worry about, Killie have both Glasgow teams while we only have Sevco. They also have St Mirren who are also fighting for a place in Europe so that will be an interesting game. Fairly sure we will take care of Dundee so even a loss today is not going to hurt us. Just wish these players would play as we know they can and give someone ( anyone ) a dooing before the end of the season, would be nice to have a really good score line before the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 36 minutes ago, kila said: Pretty much the team I would have picked apart from Forrest for Rowles and Oda for Vargas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Grant is like McKay, he hides in the big games. Plus he is a shite bag in a 50 - 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Terrible midfield last week - Beni/Devlin/ Grant. Same midfield this week. Wingbacks to get forward??? Looks like a Neilson team selection away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said: Oda gets far more shots away and hits the target more than Vargas who has pace but little quality. Forrest is a squad man and never a first pick going forward. There’s an argument for Oda playing but what Vargas needs is to be played in front of Shankland. It’s probably good for Vargas overall development to play wide as well as more central but he isn’t a winger and, imo, it’s clear what his best position is. Edited April 27 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Midfield is crying out for a Cameron or Hartley type. Beni is the only one worth keeping out of the three in today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, lost in space said: Terrible midfield last week - Beni/Devlin/ Grant. Same midfield this week. Wingbacks to get forward??? Looks like a Neilson team selection away from home. Midfield is diabolical and has been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, lost in space said: Terrible midfield last week - Beni/Devlin/ Grant. Same midfield this week. Wingbacks to get forward??? Looks like a Neilson team selection away from home. Transfer window is when we will see a better midfield. Any combination of available players isn’t great at the moment. Grant had a great game against killie on league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors1874 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 22 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: I guess we're going with 3 centre halves today. Plays to the strengths of Rowles and Kingsley and makes it a bit easier on Lembiksa And they have to go at us Utterly baffling still why we played with a back 4 at hampden last week Because we suck at a back five Vs Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Grant is like McKay, he hides in the big games. Plus he is a shite bag in a 50 - 50. His two best performances this season have come against Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 18 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Four big bruiser centre halves, Vargas will be the key today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 20 minutes ago, Nik5122 said: That's the thing vargas getting ripped,fair enough but at least he took part in the game,did anyone notice that Grant was even playing? No. He hides in games against harder opponents. He's a nothing player. Surely he's chased in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 43 minutes ago, saxondale said: Aye we should single out a young player, who was just as bad as many against the huns, who had had an otherwise very good debut season for us. Not singling him out. I like him but he should not start after last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Scott Leitch said: No. He hides in games against harder opponents. He's a nothing player. Surely he's chased in the summer. McKay as well? He does nothing in big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 The seethe against Grant amuses me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Four centre backs. Two hatchet men. 2 jinky wingers drawing fouls. 2 battering rams up top. It's really no surprise. It's trying to get a way past it that's the issue. I think Naismith will have learnt from the last game. I'll take a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Killie and their back 4 of exclusively CBs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, hearts00 said: Not singling him out. I like him but he should not start after last week. Who should, based on last weeks performance alone? Forrest and Shankland were utter shite last week. Oda done ok but missed a clear chance and has looked good from the bench before but failed to make an impact when given a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 10 minutes ago, Boris5115 said: Midfield is crying out for a Cameron or Hartley type. Beni is the only one worth keeping out of the three in today. Hmmm. To he honest happy for Beni to leave. We must and can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hearts00 said: Hmmm. To he honest happy for Beni to leave. We must and can do better. Folk have been making excuses for Beni all season. The fact they thought he had a decent game last week says all you need to know. A shadow of the player he was before injury. Edited April 27 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Pitch like a worn carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Various key players who have got us to where we are, getting slaughtered before a ball is kicked. Going to be a typical JKB fun day, so I’m out. Have fun slating the team chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Folk have been making excuses for Beni all season. The fact they thought he had a decent game last week says all you need to know. A shadow of the player he was before injury. Completely. You either need him to dictate play, be an enforcer, protect the defence or play high win the ball and drive forward. He did precisely none of those things last week. We need a dynamic stronger player in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, JimmyCant said: Various key players who have got us to where we are, getting slaughtered before a ball is kicked. Going to be a typical JKB fun day, so I’m out. Have fun slating the team chaps We are shite. They can all GTF. There. I've released the valve so maybe we can all just get on with supporting the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, hearts00 said: Hmmm. To he honest happy for Beni to leave. We must and can do better. Beni is fine he needs better players in beside him tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Who should, based on last weeks performance alone? Forrest and Shankland were utter shite last week. Oda done ok but missed a clear chance and has looked good from the bench before but failed to make an impact when given a start. I get it but Vargas was horrific in the two key moments of the game. He should not start. Obv, he’ll be playing through the middle and Oda not really a striker, but we have this guy called Tagawa, surely time to give him some game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, Boris5115 said: Beni is fine he needs better players in beside him tho. Beni too limited for me. Agree though need better players in next to Hoff next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Jorge Grant eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Can't see us getting anything today. Killi will be aggressive and generally look like they want it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, hearts00 said: Completely. You either need him to dictate play, be an enforcer, protect the defence or play high win the ball and drive forward. He did precisely none of those things last week. We need a dynamic stronger player in there. He pinches the ball off an opponent and everyone wets their pants. If you watch him in the 2-1 win over Celtic in his first season you’ll see the player he was. Think he played with Harung that day but went on to form a great partnership with Cammy that season. Fast forward to now and a Devlin/Beni midfield is dugshite. Devlin is still he same limited player he was then so something has changed. Doesn’t take a genius to work it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oda be a JT Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 25 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: TBH I don't think we have anything to worry about, Killie have both Glasgow teams while we only have Sevco. They also have St Mirren who are also fighting for a place in Europe so that will be an interesting game. Fairly sure we will take care of Dundee so even a loss today is not going to hurt us. Just wish these players would play as we know they can and give someone ( anyone ) a dooing before the end of the season, would be nice to have a really good score line before the end. Am I reading this wrong, or are we getting away without playing both Glasgow teams?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goalscoring Knee Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: Pitch like a worn carpet Got one which is as old as my 90s-built house and it's in better nick than the one at Rugby Park 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 No confidence at all for this game. Will take a draw right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, Oda be a JT said: Am I reading this wrong, or are we getting away without playing both Glasgow teams?! Lol that's what i was wondering as well. Sadly I fear not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, hearts00 said: I get it but Vargas was horrific in the two key moments of the game. He should not start. Obv, he’ll be playing through the middle and Oda not really a striker, but we have this guy called Tagawa, surely time to give him some game time. Not ducking the issue but I’ve no idea if Tagawa should play. If I said he should or shouldn’t start today I’d just be guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: Can't see us getting anything today. Killi will be aggressive and generally look like they want it more. Wanting it more puts them 11 points behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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