Fozzyonthefence Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Exactly. Gunn is the No1. Gordon can't even get in the Hearts team so maybe the greeting Hearts fans should take it up with Daisy! Gordon will be in the 23 man squad come June. If Gordon gets another handful of games I think he goes as no.2. Clarke won’t trust Kelly or Zander and Kelly should be the one to miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Not sure what Clarke will learn by playing Gunn. Looks like he is going safe in a desperate bid to get a much needed win Who do you want him to play in goals> Clark and Kelly are not of international level and Craig Gordon has over 70 caps - not sure what he needs to lean there!! Gordon and Clark are vying for 2nd and 3rd spot for the Euros! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, May98 said: England don't seem to have dropped Butland for example. You can't drop what you haven't PICKed ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Think that Scotland team would be much better with Shanks and Gordon in it but can understand why Clarke feels loyalty to Dykes and Gunn. We are running out of games before the Euros. Would like to see Shanks and Adams get a run out later in the game I think they might compliment each other. Edited March 26 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Fozzyonthefence said: If Gordon gets another handful of games I think he goes as no.2. Clarke won’t trust Kelly or Zander and Kelly should be the one to miss out. Totally agree. I think Gordon will play several post split matches for us as well as the semi-final. He will then go along with Zander and would likely be picked first, in my view, if Gunn was injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, DS98 said: Why did Clarke waste Craigys time by calling him up? He was very clear in his press conference that he wasn’t sure about where CG is right now because he’s only played against lower league teams. So calling him up with zero intention of playing him was for what? Seeing how he is in training? This a perfect time to give Craig a game. Wtf is he going to learn about Angus Gunn tonight that he doesn’t already know?? It's not wasting his time at all. He's an extremely experienced goalkeeper that is valuable in and around the squad. Gordon would have known he probably wasn't going to play and why would he? A favour to the number two at our club to give him a run out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, May98 said: Gunn was injured the past few games before last week and is the country's number 1 going into the tournament. Why start a goalie that probably won't get off the bench in the Euro's? England don't seem to have dropped Butland for example. Giving minutes to inexperienced keepers, internationally, makes sense in case of injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I'm more surprised about the goalie than Shankland. Why put 4 goalies in the squad and not give them time? I assumed each would get a half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: You can't drop what you haven't PICKed ford. Oh, daft bassa me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, The Treasurer said: Giving minutes to inexperienced keepers, internationally, makes sense in case of injury. They got minutes before when Gunn was injured. Now is time to shape the team for the tournament. Not hand random caps out for a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Mate you've not got a scoobie. Adams has generally been excellent for Scotland and is having a really good season for his club. Clearly, like Shankland and Dykes he will be heavily involved at 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Far to many drama queens nowadays. Both Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see that Lawrence Shankland wasn't starting tonight. Agree he’s asking the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, DS98 said: Why did Clarke waste Craigys time by calling him up? He was very clear in his press conference that he wasn’t sure about where CG is right now because he’s only played against lower league teams. So calling him up with zero intention of playing him was for what? Seeing how he is in training? This a perfect time to give Craig a game. Wtf is he going to learn about Angus Gunn tonight that he doesn’t already know?? Do you think Craig thinks his time is being wasted? Gordon won't be starting at the Euro's as Gunn is the No1. Just like he has been with Hearts, Craig Gordon is delighted to be patient and be involved. His fist major championships abroad and would likely be called upon should anything happen to Gunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Jamboross said: Yeah I don't have an issue with McGinn, Gilmour and McTominay being the first choice three at the moment but it's a friendly against Northern Ireland not the opening game of the Euros. Ferguson and Shanks are arguably the two most in form players in the squad, in a largely meaningless match like this they should be starting and being given the opportunity to show they're viable alternatives to the usual lot. Calllum McGregor walks straight back into the starting 11 when he’s fit again too. Ferguson will likely have to wait until after the Euros to get his chance but I agree, I think he should have started one of the two games. At least Shankland did and might get more minutes tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Fozzyonthefence said: Calllum McGregor walks straight back into the starting 11 when he’s fit again too. Ferguson will likely have to wait until after the Euros to get his chance but I agree, I think he should have started one of the two games. At least Shankland did and might get more minutes tonight. wouldn't be surprised if its the last 5 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: If Gordon gets another handful of games I think he goes as no.2. Clarke won’t trust Kelly or Zander and Kelly should be the one to miss out. I think Gordon goes regardless. Gunn Gordon and Clark in that order will be the goalkeepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, May98 said: They got minutes before when Gunn was injured. Now is time to shape the team for the tournament. Not hand random caps out for a laugh. Still think his choice tonight is all about winning. Embarrassing for him if they come up short with what is a strong line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Giving minutes to inexperienced keepers, internationally, makes sense in case of injury. The inexperienced Clark and Kelly just got time when Gunn was injured! They were both pretty poor truth be told. Which is why Gordon is back in there. We hardly need to see what he can do at international level, what he needs is game time for Hearts not Scotland. He'll be the No2/No3 in Germany along with his club mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Not watching the game, but come on the GAWA. Hopefully, Ballymena's own Trai Hume dominates the non-Shankland attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 23 man squad assuming everyone is fit. Come at me and tell me who should be in there!!!! 1 Gunn 2 Hickey 3 Robertson 4 McTominay 5 Hanley 6 Tierney 7 McGinn 8 McGregor 9 Dykes 10 Adams 11 Christie 12 Gordon 13 Hendry 14 Gilmour 15 Porteous 16 McKenna 17 Armstrong 18 Shankland 19 Ferguson 20 Souttar 21 Clark 22 Patterson 23 McLean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, May98 said: They got minutes before when Gunn was injured. Now is time to shape the team for the tournament. Not hand random caps out for a laugh. Did Kelly play? I thought Zander played two but maybe it was only one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, XB52 said: It's sad that every Scotland thread we are infested with posters telling us how much they don't care about their country. If you don't care, why post? Never seen a poster write they don’t care about their country on any Scottish football game thread. I support any sports team wearing a thistle or a lion rampant on their sports uniform. Except the football team. The reasons are obvious. We’re run by morons. Managed by a moron. And to cap it off, we insist on playing morons. Us- Angus come play for us Him- no I’m English Us- please come play for us Him- no I’m English Us- pretty please Him- not interested, I’m English Them- you’ll never play for us. Ever. Him- just realized how Scottish I am Us- welcome aboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, The Treasurer said: Still think his choice tonight is all about winning. Embarrassing for him if they come up short with what is a strong line up Well we play our best team then. This is Clarkes strongest team bar McGregor. It will be embarrassing yes, but Scotland will win easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Knew Shankland would be back oot the team. Gunn in goals anaw. Think I will give it a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, The Treasurer said: Still think his choice tonight is all about winning. Embarrassing for him if they come up short with what is a strong line up International football manager wanting to win international football match. **** me, that will never catch on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Fozzyonthefence said: Did Kelly play? I thought Zander played two but maybe it was only one? They got a half each in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Think Clark is hanging Gunn out to dry one more chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Calllum McGregor walks straight back into the starting 11 when he’s fit again too. Ferguson will likely have to wait until after the Euros to get his chance but I agree, I think he should have started one of the two games. At least Shankland did and might get more minutes tonight. Macgregor is by far the weakest midfield option we have. Ferguson is a superior player in every department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, XB52 said: I'm more surprised about the goalie than Shankland. Why put 4 goalies in the squad and not give them time? I assumed each would get a half Clark and Kelly got time in the last international break. Neither are anywhere near the required standard as was obvious by their pretty crap performances. Gordon is likely Clarke's No2 but we all know what he can do. He needs game time for us before the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: 23 man squad assuming everyone is fit. Come at me and tell me who should be in there!!!! 1 Gunn 2 Hickey 3 Robertson 4 McTominay 5 Hanley 6 Tierney 7 McGinn 8 McGregor 9 Dykes 10 Adams 11 Christie 12 Gordon 13 Hendry 14 Gilmour 15 Porteous 16 McKenna 17 Armstrong 18 Shankland 19 Ferguson 20 Souttar 21 Clark 22 Patterson 23 McLean Have a feeling Jack will go, maybe in place of McLean. The rest I completely agree with. Hopefully Hickey is ready. If not they will go for Taylor or Ralston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Well said Stevie. Who's asking the questions? She's a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, GorgieFifeLife said: Macgregor is by far the weakest midfield option we have. Ferguson is a superior player in every department. McGregor is consistently brilliant for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, May98 said: Have a feeling Jack will go, maybe in place of McLean. The rest I completely agree with. Hopefully Hickey is ready. If not they will go for Taylor or Ralston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, GorgieFifeLife said: Macgregor is by far the weakest midfield option we have. Ferguson is a superior player in every department. you've got to be joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 19 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said: People need to calm down here. Clarke will be wanting to get a positive result to get some momentum again. International football is a step up in quality and pressure and although Shankland done fine, missing that huge chance will not have done his case any favours. He will need to bide his time and take his chance next time. Dykes has scored plenty important goals for Scotland and at the moment he is the man in possession of the starting shirt when the real games start. No chance that miss makes any difference. Steve Clarke has said that himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Ffs ..Steven presley in drag on commentary😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, May98 said: McGregor is consistently brilliant for Scotland. He's a Brilliant football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: No chance that miss makes any difference. Steve Clarke has said that himself. Of course he is going to say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The same folk that turned on Naismith now doing the same with Clarke. Posting in a huff with a Umbro coaches jacket on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Cruyff said: He's a Brilliant football player. No chance. If he is so brilliant why is he not testing himself at a better level? McTominay, McGinn, Gilmour and Ferguson are all superior players in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: He's a Brilliant football player. Agree, extremely underrated. Look how much celtic missed him when we beat them recently. Ferguson has a lot of tools in his box and will be the future. I'm surprised he's not been given a start tonight though in place of maybe Christie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said: Macgregor is by far the weakest midfield option we have. Ferguson is a superior player in every department. Absolute nonsense. How many times have you watched Ferguson live this season? I think I'll go with Steve Clarke who has worked with these players for several years now and obviously does not feel that Ferguson is better than those we have relied on, as yet. McGregor has been excellent for Scotland and is part of a really good midfield. Ferguson's time will come and he has actually struggled in the minutes he has had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Cruyff said: you've got to be joking. Not at all. He is playing at a poor level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Tom English spot on. 'Frustrated' at Shankland's omission Scotland v Northern Ireland (19:45) Tom English BBC Scotland's chief sports writer on Sportsound It's disappointing, not surprising. I'm a little frustrated, though. We know what Lyndon Dykes can do at this level, we're still learning what Lawrence Shankland can do at this level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, May98 said: Have a feeling Jack will go, maybe in place of McLean. The rest I completely agree with. Hopefully Hickey is ready. If not they will go for Taylor or Ralston. I think McLean is an absolute certainty. Has never let Clarke down and is versatile which Jack isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, May98 said: Agree, extremely underrated. Look how much celtic missed him when we beat them recently. Ferguson has a lot of tools in his box and will be the future. Completely spot on 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: 23 man squad assuming everyone is fit. Come at me and tell me who should be in there!!!! 1 Gunn 2 Hickey 3 Robertson 4 McTominay 5 Hanley 6 Tierney 7 McGinn 8 McGregor 9 Dykes 10 Adams 11 Christie 12 Gordon 13 Hendry 14 Gilmour 15 Porteous 16 McKenna 17 Armstrong 18 Shankland 19 Ferguson 20 Souttar 21 Clark 22 Patterson 23 McLean Hickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieFifeLife Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Luckies1874 said: Absolute nonsense. How many times have you watched Ferguson live this season? I think I'll go with Steve Clarke who has worked with these players for several years now and obviously does not feel that Ferguson is better than those we have relied on, as yet. McGregor has been excellent for Scotland and is part of a really good midfield. Ferguson's time will come and he has actually struggled in the minutes he has had. The difference in the level Ferguson is playing at compared to McGregor could hardly be bigger. McGregor is a shitebag who is scared to put himself out there at a higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, jamborich said: Hickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, jamborich said: Hickey 🤔 I have him at No2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, GorgieFifeLife said: The difference in the level Ferguson is playing at compared to McGregor could hardly be bigger. McGregor is a shitebag who is scared to put himself out there at a higher level. Is he aye. Ferguson has potential. McGregor has been a top player for several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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