Scotland Euro Friendlies

[Fozzyonthefence]

19 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Bollox, Scotland went out looking for a wee kickabout to get them back on track, and NI would be nothing more than whipping boys in the process.

However, the NI team is full of young guys hoping to make a name for themselves.
The booing of their anthem probably only served to make them even more determined to put up a fight.

And what about potato head McGinn diving all over the shop, not the behaviour one would expect from a seasoned internationalist in a friendly.

Scotland got what they deserved and need to man up for the test ahead in the summer.

It’s not Northern Ireland’s national anthem.  It does deserve to be booed though.  

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Some 'quirky' posts up there, to say the least

[JDK2020]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

It’s not Northern Ireland’s national anthem.  It does deserve to be booed though.  

 

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Bollox, Scotland went out looking for a wee kickabout to get them back on track, and NI would be nothing more than whipping boys in the process.

However, the NI team is full of young guys hoping to make a name for themselves.
The booing of their anthem probably only served to make them even more determined to put up a fight.

And what about potato head McGinn diving all over the shop, not the behaviour one would expect from a seasoned internationalist in a friendly.

Scotland got what they deserved and need to man up for the test ahead in the summer.

Their National anthem?   

 

ps.  Bollox to you as well.  👍

 

 

 

 

[Morgan]

8 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

You forgot to type ‘dearie me’.

 

If it wasn’t for the fact that I saw your username, I could be forgiven that it wasn’t actually your post.

 

Cue your usual reply of ‘dearie me’.

[JDK2020]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

Their National anthem?   

 

ps.  Bollox to you as well.  👍

 

 

 

 

 

Erm, what is their anthem?

[JDK2020]

58 minutes ago, Morgan said:

You forgot to type ‘dearie me’.

 

If it wasn’t for the fact that I saw your username, I could be forgiven that it wasn’t actually your post.

 

Cue your usual reply of ‘dearie me’.

 

Sorry, WTF? 😀

[Bender]

For a 'friendly', a few people still seem absolutely rattled by the result.

[Fozzyonthefence]

2 hours ago, JDK2020 said:

 

It isn’t, not sure what your point is.  It’s unfortunately as much ours as it is theirs.

Edited March 28 by Fozzyonthefence

[Cruyff]

17 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Fair, Clarke reminds if of C Brown a bit.

 

He also had a good record,  but refused to try different things v different types of teams, even in friendlies.

 

I remember him recalling a veteran Pat Nevin back in the squad rather than experimenting with other options.

Tragic.

I don't see the comparison with Brown other than he's qualified is for two Tournaments to be honest. 

 

You're right about Brown. He probably did more damage than good in the end because he picked the same squad for about 8 years and many of those players were into their 30's. A whole generation of Scottish players never got a look in and it took us decades to recover. 

 

Clarke's squad isn't all has beens though. He's picking the best guys from the pool available to him. 

 

Scotland's issue is breaking teams down because we don't have wingers and #10's. We don't have much pace but what we do have is a system that allows us to play our best players together. Players who are usually tactically good. Very fit and very professionals good solid players. Guys that will run through brick walls. All our quality is on the left and midfield so that's the way we must play and it's all about transition for us but we can have periods of control because we have McGregor & Gilmour who are excellent in possession under pressure. 

 

Obviously recent results haven't been good for whatever reason but Clarke is the man for the job unless we lose our next two friendlies and embarrass ourselves at the Euros. Then we probably need fresh eyes it. But you'll find it'll probably be David Moyes who replaces him. Who will play a back 5, it'll be counter attacking football with Tierney and Robbo and much the same midfield, Gilmour, McGregor, McTominay and McGinn.

 

Folk can moan about Clarke but any coach worth their salt knows that we play to our strengths and piss wi the cock we've got. There's really no other way for us to play. 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

2 hours ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Erm, what is their anthem?

The Soldier's Song?

[Fozzyonthefence]

2 hours ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Erm, what is their anthem?

They don’t have one and use different ones for different sports, similar to England.  

[JDK2020]

27 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

They don’t have one and use different ones for different sports, similar to England.  

 

27 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

They don’t have one and use different ones for different sports, similar to England.  

   🤣

[JDK2020]

31 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

The Soldier's Song?

 

🤣

[JDK2020]

2 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

It isn’t, not sure what your point is.  It’s unfortunately as much ours as it is theirs.

 

Wasn't me making the point.

Some people on here seem to be confused - or in denial - as to what the NI anthem is. I'm enjoying the contortions they're going through though. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

22 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Wasn't me making the point.

Some people on here seem to be confused - or in denial - as to what the NI anthem is. I'm enjoying the contortions they're going through though. 

I think you’re clearly the one that is confused and laughing emojis don’t cover that up.  As I said, they don’t officially have a national anthem but you were the one who said they did and seemed to be a little delicate about GSTK getting booed so I hope you’re ok.  I’m also pretty confident that had absolutely **** all to do with the result.  I’d also imagine there’s a few in the NI squad that aren’t too keen on GSTK but there’s other posters on here who are more likely to know more about the individual players and coaches. 

[JDK2020]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

I think you’re clearly the one that is confused and laughing emojis don’t cover that up.  As I said, they don’t officially have a national anthem but you were the one who said they did and seemed to be a little delicate about GSTK getting booed so I hope you’re ok.  I’m also pretty confident that had absolutely **** all to do with the result.  I’d also imagine there’s a few in the NI squad that aren’t too keen on GSTK but there’s other posters on here who are more likely to know more about the individual players and coaches. 

 

Lol

Aw bless, so what is it for you in your particular case; ignorance or denial?

 

The NI anthem is GSTK whether you like it or not. The clue is in the fact that that  is what was played at Hampden. And I made the suggestion that the booing may have indeed fired up the NI lads, and I don't blame them. What some may think of it is neither here nor there - it is STILL the anthem.

Are you really so ****ing thick?  

[Fozzyonthefence]

1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Lol

Aw bless, so what is it for you in your particular case; ignorance or denial?

 

The NI anthem is GSTK whether you like it or not. The clue is in the fact that that  is what was played at Hampden. And I made the suggestion that the booing may have indeed fired up the NI lads, and I don't blame them. What some may think of it is neither here nor there - it is STILL the anthem.

Are you really so ****ing thick?  

It doesn’t matter what they play at football matches, GSTK is the British National Anthem!  It’s not the English NA, or N Ireland’s, or Wales, or Scotland.  It doesn’t belong to any of them individually but two of them use it at some, not all sporting events.  Why are you having difficulty understanding this?  Do you not understand the difference between the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?  Instead of clogging this thread with your ignorance feel free to pm me and I’ll try to explain in words of one or two syllables. 
 

Tell me, what National anthem do N Ireland use at the Commonwealth Games?  Also, do you think the catholics in their football squad are going to give a shiny shite if GSTK is booed?!  

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Lol

Aw bless, so what is it for you in your particular case; ignorance or denial?

 

The NI anthem is GSTK whether you like it or not. The clue is in the fact that that  is what was played at Hampden. And I made the suggestion that the booing may have indeed fired up the NI lads, and I don't blame them. What some may think of it is neither here nor there - it is STILL the anthem.

Are you really so ****ing thick?  

Not only are you patronising, you are arrogant, argumentative and pretty stupid.

 

It’s a quite wonderful foursome, and definitely a foursome you should be proud of..

 

Please, feel free to respond with ‘oh dear’ or yet another derogatory comment. 👍

[Morgan]

14 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

It doesn’t matter what they play at football matches, GSTK is the British National Anthem!  It’s not the English NA, or N Ireland’s, or Wales, or Scotland.  It doesn’t belong to any of them individually but two of them use it at some, not all sporting events.  Why are you having difficulty understanding this?  Do you not understand the difference between the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?  Instead of clogging this thread with your ignorance feel free to pm me and I’ll try to explain in words of one or two syllables. 
 

Tell me, what National anthem do N Ireland use at the Commonwealth Games?  Also, do you think the catholics in their football squad are going to give a shiny shite if GSTK is booed?!  

I fear that ‘words of one or two syllables’ may confuse the chap.  

[Fozzyonthefence]

13 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I fear that ‘words of one or two syllables’ may confuse the chap.  

I suspect he was completely confused well before that sentence. 

[JDK2020]

52 minutes ago, Morgan said:

Not only are you patronising, you are arrogant, argumentative and pretty stupid.

.

 

....and, most annoyingly for you, I am 100% correct. 👍

G'night!

[CaptainShanks]

In the Northern Ireland game we looked like we had a squad of players who are not used to having to break down a low block. 

 

We have a great squad of players and I am confident we will show it at the Euros.

[JDK2020]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

It doesn’t matter what they play at football matches, GSTK is the British National Anthem!  It’s not the English NA, or N Ireland’s, or Wales, or Scotland.  It doesn’t belong to any of them individually but two of them use it at some, not all sporting events.  Why are you having difficulty understanding this?  Do you not understand the difference between the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?  Instead of clogging this thread with your ignorance feel free to pm me and I’ll try to explain in words of one or two syllables. 
 

Tell me, what National anthem do N Ireland use at the Commonwealth Games?  Also, do you think the catholics in their football squad are going to give a shiny shite if GSTK is booed?!  

 

GSTK is the anthem of the UK comprising all 4 constituent parts. 

You can jump through hoops, you can howl at the moon forever and a day, but that is a fact. 

But my original point is that the TA booed the NI anthem midweek, another fact. You and your buddy chose to go down a rabbit hole of what is who's anthem.

Anyhoo, you and Morgan can whine about if for the rest of the evening and over the next few days for all I care.

G'night!  😀

 

 

[JDK2020]

1 minute ago, CaptainShanks said:

In the Northern Ireland game we looked like we had a squad of players who are not used to having to break down a low block. 

 

We have a great squad of players and I am confident we will show it at the Euros.

 

Michael O'Neill is correct, Scotland could do better against the stronger fancied teams than against the likes of those set-up like NI.

Time will tell.

[May98]

4 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

GSTK is the anthem of the UK comprising all 4 constituent parts. 

You can jump through hoops, you can howl at the moon forever and a day, but that is a fact. 

But my original point is that the TA booed the NI anthem midweek, another fact. You and your buddy chose to go down a rabbit hole of what is who's anthem.

Anyhoo, you and Morgan can whine about if for the rest of the evening and over the next few days for all I care.

G'night!  😀

 

 

Both sets of support booed the anthems.  Scotland presumably because they aren't keen of the royal family and it's the anthem of our sporting rivals.  NI presumably because their end was fully of huns. 

[CaptainShanks]

3 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Michael O'Neill is correct, Scotland could do better against the stronger fancied teams than against the likes of those set-up like NI.

Time will tell.

Bang on. I think we will do well against Hungary and Switzerland but will lose the opening game. I expect us to get through the group stage but after that it very much depends on the draw. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

17 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

GSTK is the anthem of the UK

Ah we got there in the end, well done!

[CaptainShanks]

We got 1.5 for Hickey but Rangers got 16 for Patterson but Hickey is head and shoulders above Patterson in every aspect of the game. Hickey was a motm in a Scottish Cup Final in one of his irs games for us but Patterson couldn't get near the Rangers side. Patterson is the Atkinson of the Scotland team. It's mad how value in football is dictated by the team you play for rather than the ability of the player. 

[May98]

21 minutes ago, CaptainShanks said:

We got 1.5 for Hickey but Rangers got 16 for Patterson but Hickey is head and shoulders above Patterson in every aspect of the game. Hickey was a motm in a Scottish Cup Final in one of his irs games for us but Patterson couldn't get near the Rangers side. Patterson is the Atkinson of the Scotland team. It's mad how value in football is dictated by the team you play for rather than the ability of the player. 

Or the team interested it the player? 

[Laurie]

5 hours ago, CaptainShanks said:

It's mad how value in football is dictated by the team you play for rather than the ability of the player. 

 

There's maybe a degree of that, but you've also got to remember that Hickey was entering the final year of his contract and we'd just been sent to the second tier, at the start of a pandemic. We weren't exactly in a strong negotiating position. You also factor in that, despite having played a similar amount of club games as Hickey, Patterson was already a full international when Everton came in for him (as well has having a couple of years left on his contract). I don't doubt that the Rangers > Hearts aspect player some part in it, but the same would probably apply in our favour if we compared us to a Livingston or St Johnstone (in terms of Hearts potentially negotiating a higher fee than those clubs).

[Cruickie's Moustache]

For info - NI apparently use Londonderry Air (Danny Boy if lyrics added) at the Commonwealth Games.

[Fozzyonthefence]

3 hours ago, Laurie said:

 

There's maybe a degree of that, but you've also got to remember that Hickey was entering the final year of his contract and we'd just been sent to the second tier, at the start of a pandemic. We weren't exactly in a strong negotiating position. You also factor in that, despite having played a similar amount of club games as Hickey, Patterson was already a full international when Everton came in for him (as well has having a couple of years left on his contract). I don't doubt that the Rangers > Hearts aspect player some part in it, but the same would probably apply in our favour if we compared us to a Livingston or St Johnstone (in terms of Hearts potentially negotiating a higher fee than those clubs).

Patterson had barely played for the Rangers first team.  Iirc just the odd cup game but Tavernier played all the league games.  Hickey had much more first team experience.  As you say there were other factors but overall we wuz robbed and Rangers won a watch.  They must still be laughing about it now!

[JDK2020]

11 hours ago, CaptainShanks said:

Bang on. I think we will do well against Hungary and Switzerland but will lose the opening game. I expect us to get through the group stage but after that it very much depends on the draw. 

 

Maybe, just maybe, if your namesake is playing up front. 👍

[Laurie]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

Patterson had barely played for the Rangers first team.  Iirc just the odd cup game but Tavernier played all the league games.  Hickey had much more first team experience.  As you say there were other factors but overall we wuz robbed and Rangers won a watch.  They must still be laughing about it now!

 

When Hickey left he had 33 first team appearances for Hearts, Patterson had 27 for Rangers when he left (albeit a lot of his were cup matches). Also got to remember that Hickey would've been on a very modest contract, his first senior one (I think), when we sold him, whereas Patterson had signed an extension with Rangers after he'd broken into the first team, so I assume he'd have been on a significantly higher wage - not to mention having an extra year than Hickey did at the time of departure. 

 

But I certainly won't dispute that Rangers still got a lot more than they probably should have at the time! 

[Jambo in Bathgate]

18 minutes ago, Laurie said:

 

When Hickey left he had 33 first team appearances for Hearts, Patterson had 27 for Rangers when he left (albeit a lot of his were cup matches). Also got to remember that Hickey would've been on a very modest contract, his first senior one (I think), when we sold him, whereas Patterson had signed an extension with Rangers after he'd broken into the first team, so I assume he'd have been on a significantly higher wage - not to mention having an extra year than Hickey did at the time of departure. 

 

But I certainly won't dispute that Rangers still got a lot more than they probably should have at the time! 

Thing is Rangers could afford to pay big wages and get youngster to sign contract. Unfortunately we weren’t in that position and Hickey went to club for big wage. It worked out for him but could have gone the other way. We had to sell or lose any decent fee. 

[busbyfth]

On 28/03/2024 at 04:17, gregzy2k7 said:

Clarke has done an amazing job imo,

 

You can only piss with the 🐓 you have got,

 

The fact is Scotland are good in midfield and with the wingbacks, but they lack good defenders and a good enough front line (Shanks aside) so will not progress much further until that is rectified imo.

 

At least they qualifying for tournaments now,

 

I don't expect us to get out the group tbh, it's not impossible but Scotland are just lacking in certain areas of the park.

 

Ironically though it was the through passes from the midfield which let us down as their accuracy was awful - one of those nights (as the eagles might sing) 

[Fozzyonthefence]

1 hour ago, busbyfth said:

Ironically though it was the through passes from the midfield which let us down as their accuracy was awful - one of those nights (as the eagles might sing) 

Midfield had an off night and found it difficult against a team with pretty much everyone behind the ball and defending very well (could be similar in reverse when we play Germany).   Think they’ll do better with more space in the Euros and with McGregor back, we’re a better team with him in it.  We actually looked a far better team for about 70 minutes against the Netherlands than we did against Northern Ireland. 
 

Not all doom and gloom, at least we’ve got the Euros to look forward to,  I’d rather be in our position than watching on from afar like Wales and N Ireland will be and like we usually are!  Our defence does look like an accident waiting to happen though. 

[Morgan]

14 hours ago, JDK2020 said:

 

GSTK is the anthem of the UK comprising all 4 constituent parts. 

 

My God, sir, I think you’ve got it.   

 

I retract my ‘stupid’ comment, the one I aimed at you, and would like to replace it with ‘slightly slow’.

 

I hope you’re ok with that?

 

In fact, I don’t.  I couldn’t care less.

 

Have a great day.  

 

 

[JDK2020]

3 hours ago, Morgan said:

My God, sir, I think you’ve got it.   

 

I retract my ‘stupid’ comment, the one I aimed at you, and would like to replace it with ‘slightly slow’.

 

I hope you’re ok with that?

 

In fact, I don’t.  I couldn’t care less.

 

Have a great day.  

 

 

 

🤩Just how childish are you going to be about this? It's reached obsession levels.

Why do you imagine GSTK was played pre-match?

And if their anthem is NOT GSTK, pray tell, what is it?

 

Oh, BTW...

National anthem of Northern Ireland - Wikipedia

 

• God Save the King, the national and royal anthem of the United Kingdom, is played as the anthem of Northern Ireland at association football.

 

 

Oh, and I AM having a great day thanks.

 

 

Edited March 29 by JDK2020

[May98]

2 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

🤩Just how childish are you going to be about this? It's reached obsession levels.

Why do you imagine GSTK was played pre-match?

And if their anthem is NOT GSTK, pray tell, what is it?

 

Oh, BTW...

National anthem of Northern Ireland - Wikipedia

 

• God Save the King, the national and royal anthem of the United Kingdom, is played as the anthem of Northern Ireland at association football.

 

 

Oh, and I AM having a great day thanks.

 

 

It's not their national anthem.  It's played because they dinnae have an official one. 

All UK nations would default to GSTK if they never had yin either. 

Edited March 29 by May98

[JDK2020]

1 minute ago, May98 said:

It's not their national anthem.  It's played because they dinnae have an official one. 

All UK nations would default to GSTK if they never had yin either. 

 

Lol, it's spreading....

[May98]

1 minute ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Lol, it's spreading....

Have no idea what you are on about to be honest. 

[JDK2020]

24 minutes ago, May98 said:

Have no idea what you are on about to be honest. 

 

Sorry, I meant the spreading of the erroneous belief on here of what is the anthem of NI. 

[Seaside Dave]

Being from northern Ireland I can confirm the national anthem is god save the king. 

[Mikey1874]

Che Adams today

 

 

[JDK2020]

50 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Being from northern Ireland I can confirm the national anthem is god save the king. 

 

Thank you kind sir.

 

Now, Messrs Fozzy and Morgan, please let this be the end of this ridiculous nonsense of yours.

You may now stop making utter tools of yourselves for no good reason.

 

Edited March 29 by JDK2020

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, JDK2020 said:

 

🤩Just how childish are you going to be about this? It's reached obsession levels.

Why do you imagine GSTK was played pre-match?

And if their anthem is NOT GSTK, pray tell, what is it?

 

Oh, BTW...

National anthem of Northern Ireland - Wikipedia

 

• God Save the King, the national and royal anthem of the United Kingdom, is played as the anthem of Northern Ireland at association football.

 

 

Oh, and I AM having a great day thanks.

 

 

 

It’s great to hear that your day has gone swimmingly.  👍

 

1 hour ago, May98 said:

It's not their national anthem.  It's played because they dinnae have an official one. 

All UK nations would default to GSTK if they never had yin either. 

 

This, in my opinion, is the correct answer.

 

Apologies to Seaside Dave.

[Morgan]

5 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

Thank you kind sir.

 

Now, Messrs Fozzy and Morgan, please let this be the end of this ridiculous nonsense of yours.

You may now stop making utter tools of yourselves for no good reason.

 

 

No surrender!

 

 

[JDK2020]

52 minutes ago, Morgan said:

 

No surrender!

 

 

 

Dearie me! 😃