tiger Rudi Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: We were absolutely horrendous defensively in the first half so yeah, let's put on a worse defender. This. Did we really want to see Youan run at Dexter? Or Obika for that matter. I really thought we were going to get suckered by a late breakaway at the death when Beni was covering for Atkinson. We MUST get a proper right back in the summer, every team we play targets the rb area, they know that's where we are weakest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Sibbick should be played there if in a back 4 imo. He dealt with Boyle easily enough last time in the first Derby. As someone said, Boyle has switched sides but I mean in general, Sibbick looks fine there. Edited February 28 by Arthur Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I'd start him against celtic at the weekend, at least he tries to get forward and put crosses in, Atkinson has been really far off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philstampscleaner Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 How did Naismith think that Atkinson deserved a start this eve? Same with Devlin. Big mistakes starting both this eve. Both utterly honking for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Just now, Philstampscleaner said: How did Naismith think that Atkinson deserved a start this eve? Same with Devlin. Big mistakes starting both this eve. Both utterly honking for me. The problem is Lembikisa is even worse at defending than Atkinson which is the reason he never came on. The biggest mistake was starting Scott Fraser and even worse starting him on the right wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 What is Sibbick's status? Is he injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: The problem is Lembikisa is even worse at defending than Atkinson which is the reason he never came on. The biggest mistake was starting Scott Fraser and even worse starting him on the right wing. He would’ve been better starting Dexter at Right Wing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said: What is Sibbick's status? Is he injured? Was on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Philstampscleaner said: How did Naismith think that Atkinson deserved a start this eve? Same with Devlin. Big mistakes starting both this eve. Both utterly honking for me. Unfortunately because Atkinson is by a mile our best right back. Right back definitely needs to be top of the shopping list in the summer. Edited February 29 by Uncle Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Could’ve even started at Right Wing tonight, would’ve been better than Fraser and helped Atkinson who definitely needed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecN Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Atkinson wasn’t confident enough no matter who was with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Sibbick is horrible at right back. It's awful that he's considered for a start there because our established right back and vital January signing are so flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Was on the bench Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 hours ago, cosanostra said: I like him better than Atkinson tbh. Why do we always seem to need a right back? We usually seem to be pretty good at finding left backs but we always seem to struggle with right full backs. I have watched us since 1972 and we have never had a top quality RB, some decent players but not anywhere near the quality LBs we’ve had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Unfortunately because Atkinson is by a mile our best right back. Right back definitely needs to be top of the shopping list in the summer. A damning indictment of our recruitment really, the guy hasn’t progressed in the two years he’s been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds66 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 hours ago, hearts00 said: I really dont want to be negative but that was a truly awful performance from Atkinson. You are being kind, awful doesn't begin to describe his performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I have watched us since 1972 and we have never had a top quality RB, some decent players but not anywhere near the quality LBs we’ve had. The only sheep fan I know who's not a complete and utter bellend reckons Devlin has been their player of the season. He'd probably have been better than any of our 3 options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 He was bad but got no help from Vargas, who was worse than a man short. At least Nate got a sweat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 4 minutes ago, cosanostra said: The only sheep fan I know who's not a complete and utter bellend reckons Devlin has been their player of the season. He'd probably have been better than any of our 3 options. Probably, likes a handball. Surely Miovskis their best player, he’s keeping them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsjambo Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Atkinson struggled all game, I thought Dexter would have been on at half time. He’s better going forward and surely can’t be any worse defensively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, sandylejambo said: He was bad but got no help from Vargas, who was worse than a man short. At least Nate got a sweat up. Or Fraser 1st half, but Vargas is there to score goals, Forrest didnt help the LBs either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Dsjambo said: Atkinson struggled all game, I thought Dexter would have been on at half time. He’s better going forward and surely can’t be any worse defensively? There was a few that played 90 minutes who could’ve had no complaints about being subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsjambo Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: There was a few that played 90 minutes who could’ve had no complaints about being subbed. No argument there. We were poor all over the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philstampscleaner Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 55 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: The problem is Lembikisa is even worse at defending than Atkinson which is the reason he never came on. The biggest mistake was starting Scott Fraser and even worse starting him on the right wing. I'm not convinced Dexter is a great defender I agree but he offers a thousand times more than Atkinson going forwards. Both are quite shit defenders. I also think our shape tonight was wrong. We were static all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1975 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I suggested a while back to a fellow Jambo, very much tounge in cheek, we had perhaps been a bit hasty allowing Micheal Smith to leave. Not sure I was far wrong to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philstampscleaner Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Uncle Buck said: Unfortunately because Atkinson is by a mile our best right back. Right back definitely needs to be top of the shopping list in the summer. I don't think he is. I think Dexter is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Atkinson was getting caught to far up the field loads of times and they almost scored because of that one time the hof managed to run back and made a superb tackle to stop them getting in on goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: He would’ve been better starting Dexter at Right Wing tbh. I definitely see a case for putting both of them over there. The thing is, Natty was caught out today a lot of times because he was cutting inside. Which is what he's supposed to do when we're playing inverted fullbacks. But somehow whether because of lack of training, communication, mistakes, timing, whatever, the wide midfielders are not getting over to cover the way they're supposed to in an inverted system. (This doesn't excuse Atkinson giving the ball away in dangerous areas, of course, just the bit about his positioning and the space Hibs found down the side at times.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 31 minutes ago, jambo1975 said: I suggested a while back to a fellow Jambo, very much tounge in cheek, we had perhaps been a bit hasty allowing Micheal Smith to leave. Not sure I was far wrong to be honest Ffs he was finished about 4 years ago, knew how to play wingback but didn’t have the ability. Currently at Yeovil in the National League South, 6th tier in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 20 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: I definitely see a case for putting both of them over there. The thing is, Natty was caught out today a lot of times because he was cutting inside. Which is what he's supposed to do when we're playing inverted fullbacks. But somehow whether because of lack of training, communication, mistakes, timing, whatever, the wide midfielders are not getting over to cover the way they're supposed to in an inverted system. (This doesn't excuse Atkinson giving the ball away in dangerous areas, of course, just the bit about his positioning and the space Hibs found down the side at times.) You can’t expect the right winger to track back 30 yards in case he loses the ball, even though he does practically every time he passes the ball forward. He did it against Celtic in his first game at Tynecastle and has done it constantly since, he rarely scores or assists so if he can’t defend why the **** is he playing? Because he plays for Australia 🤷🏾♂️🤔? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Philstampscleaner said: I don't think he is. I think Dexter is better. Absolutely, he is far more dangerous going forward and as good a defender. Probably why hes on Wolves books and we are as big a club Atkinson will play for. Edited February 29 by Pasquale for King Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Thomson Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 hours ago, Sooperstar said: He should have started. Atkinson is a ****ing joke. 100% this, the amount of time he went walkabout and left others to cover for him. He does it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Both are mince. Must be a youngster who could prosper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 5 hours ago, Philstampscleaner said: How did Naismith think that Atkinson deserved a start this eve? Same with Devlin. Big mistakes starting both this eve. Both utterly honking for me. Atkinson didn't have the best of games - granted. He just kept running into trouble all over the pitch. Distribution was poor. Dev - disagree in the sense that I thought he started well enough, but when he was moved to attacking mid, and when Beni came on, he fell out the game, but most probably as a result of running out of steam as well. Edited February 29 by Hearts1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 6 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said: Sibbick should be played there if in a back 4 imo. He dealt with Boyle easily enough last time in the first Derby. As someone said, Boyle has switched sides but I mean in general, Sibbick looks fine there. Boyle wasn't the problem last night. He was pretty anonymous the whole game. The one time he did break clear in the first half, it was Atkinson who caught him and helped clear with Devlin. Lembikisa wasn't the answer last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisnameis Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Neither that great. Was disappointed when we signed Dexter in Jan as on paper at least he seemed very similar to Natty. Should have gone for Devlin when at Livi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 6 hours ago, jambo1975 said: I suggested a while back to a fellow Jambo, very much tounge in cheek, we had perhaps been a bit hasty allowing Micheal Smith to leave. Not sure I was far wrong to be honest loved smith but he was absolutely finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 37 minutes ago, hisnameis said: Neither that great. Was disappointed when we signed Dexter in Jan as on paper at least he seemed very similar to Natty. Should have gone for Devlin when at Livi. we did. It was agreed but went on hold when we sacked neilson and then Aberdeen came in. It is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott980612 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Problem area for us and has been since Smith left. Atkinson’s distribution is absolutely woeful. Dexter at least has an attacking threat. Atkinson has put in 2 shocking performances- can’t expect to keep his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 7 hours ago, Philstampscleaner said: How did Naismith think that Atkinson deserved a start this eve? Same with Devlin. Big mistakes starting both this eve. Both utterly honking for me. Cammy is bound to be a bit rusty after being out for so long. He will be a very valuable player next year. Atkinson however is a liability. He is technically by far the worst player we have and this lack of ability is behind the mistakes he makes. We need an upgrade if we wish to progress next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 They’re both as bad as each other. A RB has to be top of the list for the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Hibs doubled up on Atkinson and Vargas gave him absolutely zero help same as Saturday. More on our manager for keeping allowing that to happen than the player but let the ****ing dimwits in our support crack on. ****ing Hibs behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, Gorgiewave said: What is Sibbick's status? Is he injured? Utility player. Not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, Walter Kidd said: Hibs doubled up on Atkinson and Vargas gave him absolutely zero help same as Saturday. More on our manager for keeping allowing that to happen than the player but let the ****ing dimwits in our support crack on. ****ing Hibs behaviour. SN could easily have played both last night and had Lembikisa in front of Atkinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jr ewing said: SN could easily have played both last night and had Lembikisa in front of Atkinson. Correct but chose not to. Stevie ****ing Wonder could see what Hibs were doing but he still allows it. I felt sorry for Atkinson - he tries his heart out and the Morons in our support need a boo boy. Edited February 29 by Walter Kidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 10 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: They’re both as bad as each other. A RB has to be top of the list for the summer. As it was meant to be last summer ☀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Atkinson just kicks the ball where he’s facing and has a first touch like a shot!!! poor football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Jeez everyone was shouting for Atkinson to come back in to team, he has a poor game and suddenly he needs to get emptied. Can we not just appreciate that we have a squad and players dip in and out of form. A bad game doesn't make it terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 The thought of either of them playing against Celtic is giving me the fear tbh I think Toby might actually be the best option there, at least he wouldn’t wander off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I like Dexter and was a good part of our run. Atkinson improved a lot but I still don't really rate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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