John Findlay Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Sir PH said: I don't recall saying that? Not like you to spout utter crap and make stuff up. Yes you have. You have said she's not offended as she needs the access to Brendan Rogers to do her job. Like I said you're not the sharpest tool in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: Jane Lewis did decide, because she decided in a way you don't like, you carry on being offended on her behalf. Like I said your hard of thinking, and talk a load of bollocks too. I'm not offended, far from it. Although it's priceless coming from you, who pishes his pants at songs in a football stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Graham Thomson said: I'm quite happy for them to decide. You're the one who is complaining on their behalf, they don't need you!!! You're talking to a brick wall Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, John Findlay said: Yes you have. You have said she's not offended as she needs the access to Brendan Rogers to do her job. Like I said you're not the sharpest tool in the box. No I didn't. At no point did I say it. So you're wrong, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Sir PH said: I'm not offended, far from it. Although it's priceless coming from you, who pishes his pants at songs in a football stadium. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Benny Klack said: Great thread for the boomers outing themselves - if all else fails tell ‘um to “go away and stop talking bollocks” 👍 Outrageous ageism. This is the kind of casual throw-away offensiveness that the elderly and less media and internet savvy have to put up with. I’m disgusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, FWJ said: I’m sure Jane Lewis - or any senior reporter, male or female, will have heard worse. Many I dare say will have dealt worse. I’m not sure if she’ll be delighted that your so sensitive on her behalf. I'm not allowed to cut off your finger just because somebody else has previously cut off your hand. Is your bar for decency simply just set below whatever the worst thing you can imagine is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Rampant said: I'm not allowed to cut off your finger just because somebody else has previously cut off your hand. Is your bar for decency simply just set below whatever the worst thing you can imagine is? He was pi££ed off and possibly patronising. If he’d simply walked away then those desperate to make A Thing of it - for whatever agenda they have - would have described that as patronising and sexist too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Klack Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, FWJ said: Outrageous ageism. This is the kind of casual throw-away offensiveness that the elderly and less media and internet savvy have to put up with. I’m disgusted. 😂😂😂 Boomers gonna boom ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Benny Klack said: 😂😂😂 Boomers gonna boom ! And millennials will just get their parents to do it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Klack Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, FWJ said: And millennials will just get their parents to do it for them. Classic 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, busbyfth said: the way things/momentum are going she will have more - what BR said was said in a term (according to my wife and daughter - who I concur with) of belittling the person - talking down to them in a condescending way - verging on nasty......but they also reckoned he would have said the same words but used "boy" if a male had asked the same questions, as it was a jibe at a journalist, not specifically aimed at the female race. It was said with pomp and self esteem from a boor. At last, someone tells it like was/is… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Graham Thomson said: My God I can't believe this discussion is still going on, Jane Lewis wasn't offended no problem, move on and concentrate on important issues. Stop being offended on other people's behalf!!! Too many people “offended” because it’s the Celtic manager? Answers on a postage stamp… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Rampant said: See the bold text. You equated Rodgers saying 'good girl' to Jane Lewis with Rodgers saying 'good lad' to Jonathan Sutherland. You equated reality to an alternate scenario, in which you changed the gender of the person Rodgers was interacting with, as well as changing a key word used in that interaction. In changing the word and Jane Lewis's gender, you not only "stripped" the situation of its original context, but replaced it with an entirely different context. Really? What's your response to this post 👇 3 hours ago, busbyfth said: the way things/momentum are going she will have more - what BR said was said in a term (according to my wife and daughter - who I concur with) of belittling the person - talking down to them in a condescending way - verging on nasty......but they also reckoned he would have said the same words but used "boy" if a male had asked the same questions, as it was a jibe at a journalist, not specifically aimed at the female race. It was said with pomp and self esteem from a boor. While you're there, why don't you explain why you picked my post specifically out of approximately a dozen posts stating the same opinion, not to be confused with stating opinion as fact; 2 women have given their view, that's a FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: Too many people “offended” because it’s the Celtic manager? Answers on a postage stamp… I knew you'd be along soon to defend him. He is the Celtic manager, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Sir PH said: I knew you'd be along soon to defend him. He is the Celtic manager, after all. I’m just stating the obvious. And as not a few posters here have realised, you’re a not-so-closet Ibrox sympathiser… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 42 minutes ago, Sir PH said: No I didn't. At no point did I say it. So you're wrong, again. “Jane Lewis may not be making a big deal of it, probably to save her job and to keep her access to Celtic” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I’m just stating the obvious. And as not a few posters here have realised, you’re a not-so-closet Ibrox sympathiser… And you're always there to stick up for Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, FWJ said: “Jane Lewis may not be making a big deal of it, probably to save her job and to keep her access to Celtic” Thanks for proving my point.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, Sir PH said: Thanks for proving my point.👍 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Really? What's your response to this post 👇 Yes, really. I think I explained myself well enough in that post. 26 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: While you're there, why don't you explain why you picked my post specifically out of approximately a dozen posts stating the same opinion, not to be confused with stating opinion as fact; 2 women have given their view, that's a FACT Let's take the other poster in good faith in which case we can agree that it is a fact that two women have given their view. But their view is their opinion so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by bringing it up. My guess is that because those two women have sided with you, you believe that makes you right? My issue with your post was that you implied people on one side of the argument were taking the quote out of context in order to find fault with it, whilst you yourself took the quote out of context in order to defend it. As I made clear earlier, I don't think such hypocrisy was fair. In any case, I've replied to other posters in this thread, I haven't singled your post out. Edited February 27 by Rampant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) I feel sorry for Jane Lewis, if this escalates, the pile on from those of a Celtic persuasion will likely influence her employers, and she may find the attention from any fallout pushed in her direction Dont believe me ? , Remember when Shay Logan was racially abused by the Celtic player Tonev in 2014, Tonev was subsequently banned for 7 games, but there was a huge pile on from Celtic fans and players (inderectly) indicating Logan was lying, and it was an anti Celtic agenda, subsequently Logan received abuse whenever he played at Parkhead, there was a definite lack of support from the media in this country for Logan. Ironically I fear Jane Lewis will end up being the bad guy here, Celtics influence in this countries media will come to the fore. Edited February 27 by jbee647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 17 minutes ago, Sir PH said: Thanks for proving my point.👍 21 minutes ago, FWJ said: “Jane Lewis may not be making a big deal of it, probably to save her job and to keep her access to Celtic” Almost definitely, probably doesn’t fancy her windows getting smashed in either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PH Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, jbee647 said: Almost definitely, probably doesn’t fancy her windows getting smashed in either Some of the stuff she's been called on Twitter/X from the greatest fans in the world is utterly disgusting. But hey, she's not offended. So no harm done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, Rampant said: Yes, really. I think I explained myself well enough in that post. Let's take the other poster in good faith in which case we can agree that it is a fact that two women have given their view. But their view is their opinion so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by bringing it up. My guess is that because those two women have sided with you, you believe that makes you right? My issue with your post was that you implied people on one side of the argument were taking the quote out of context in order to find fault with it, whilst you yourself took the quote out of context in order to defend it. As I made clear earlier, I don't think such hypocrisy was fair. In any case, I've replied to other posters in this thread, I haven't singled your post out. You've got it all wrong and I am going to leave it right there Enjoy your night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 14 minutes ago, jbee647 said: I feel sorry for Jane Lewis, if this escalates, the pile on from those of a Celtic persuasion will likely influence her employers, and she may find the attention from any fallout pushed in her direction Dont believe me ? , Remember when Shay Logan was racially abused by the Celtic player Tonev in 2014, Tonev was subsequently banned for 7 games, but there was a huge pile on from Celtic fans and players (inderectly) indicating Logan was lying, and it was an anti Celtic agenda, subsequently Logan received abuse whenever he played at Parkhead, there was a definite lack of support from the media in this country for Logan. Ironically I fear Jane Lewis will end up being the bad guy here, Celtics influence in this countries media will come to the fore. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: You've got it all wrong and I am going to leave it right there Enjoy your night 👍 I'm sorry if I have. My concern in this thread, and more generally, is when people are particularly keen to stifle a debate, demonstrated frequently in this thread by the urgency at which many want to swiftly move on with a 'nothing to see here' attitude, accompanied by the good lad / good boy whataboutery. There's more to this and it's worth talking about. Edited February 27 by Rampant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rampant said: 👍 I'm sorry if I have. My concern in this thread, and more generally, is when people are particularly keen to stifle a debate, demonstrated frequently in this thread by the urgency at which many want to swiftly move on with a 'nothing to see here' attitude, accompanied by the good lad / good boy whataboutery. There's more to this and it's worth talking about. We’re on page 5. There’s not much sign of the debate being stifled. And what better way to stifle debate than to dismiss a contrary view as ‘whataboutery’ Edited February 27 by FWJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawasakijambo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 condescending, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 hours ago, jbee647 said: I feel sorry for Jane Lewis, if this escalates, the pile on from those of a Celtic persuasion will likely influence her employers, and she may find the attention from any fallout pushed in her direction Dont believe me ? , Remember when Shay Logan was racially abused by the Celtic player Tonev in 2014, Tonev was subsequently banned for 7 games, but there was a huge pile on from Celtic fans and players (inderectly) indicating Logan was lying, and it was an anti Celtic agenda, subsequently Logan received abuse whenever he played at Parkhead, there was a definite lack of support from the media in this country for Logan. Ironically I fear Jane Lewis will end up being the bad guy here, Celtics influence in this countries media will come to the fore. Sadly, I think this is the point being overlooked in the stooshie. Acknowledged, I try to avoid the weegia but I've not sensed any anti celtic narrative being developed. Their performance v killie came under scrutiny which is perfectly reasonable given the comparative difference in resources. He's appealing to their base which is out of the John Reid playbook and inevitably Jane will be encouraged to offer more favourable commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) On 25/02/2024 at 23:03, Armageddon said: I’m not fussed about the interview, but there will be an absolute pile on re the ‘Good Girl’ comment and I’m not for that at all, I wish we lived in a world where we could just tell folk to **** off. Fingers crossed we end his time this weekend 🙏🏼 Agreed! I get dogs abuse from some for daring to suggest Jesus is important in their life. Because I'm a minister they think it will shock me. Apart from the fact I lived 44 years before becoming a Christian, and anyone in the.Glasgow Branch will tell you my language was "flowery" to say the least, the term used was childish and condescending, but not worthy of the reaction of the oversensitive. It's a case of take the log out your own eye before trying to take the speck of sawdust out of his. Edited February 28 by colinmaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 He knew what he was saying , total knobhead, got called out and immediately was on the phone to apologies, no offence meant etc etc No way the BBC was going to over play this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I like Jane Lewis and she'll not be such a wee sensitive soul as to wilt at that comment. Yes the media aftermath will be more concerning to her and who's to blame for that? Well it's all the wee sensitive souls who have been offended on her behalf.You know, the ones who claim to be on her side. That's the problem. Snowflakes cause more bother for everyone else,The wee right on wokies love a fight. Just as long as it's somebody else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 11 hours ago, jbee647 said: I feel sorry for Jane Lewis, if this escalates, the pile on from those of a Celtic persuasion will likely influence her employers, and she may find the attention from any fallout pushed in her direction Dont believe me ? , Remember when Shay Logan was racially abused by the Celtic player Tonev in 2014, Tonev was subsequently banned for 7 games, but there was a huge pile on from Celtic fans and players (inderectly) indicating Logan was lying, and it was an anti Celtic agenda, subsequently Logan received abuse whenever he played at Parkhead, there was a definite lack of support from the media in this country for Logan. Ironically I fear Jane Lewis will end up being the bad guy here, Celtics influence in this countries media will come to the fore. Liel Abada comes to mind as I read this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Jane, if you're out there looking for support and need a shoulder or anything else to cry on and happen to read this, I'm here for you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbyfth Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Really? What's your response to this post 👇 While you're there, why don't you explain why you picked my post specifically out of approximately a dozen posts stating the same opinion, not to be confused with stating opinion as fact; 2 women have given their view, that's a FACT lucky dip - what or why else would you think anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbyfth Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 hours ago, PortyBeach said: At last, someone tells it like was/is… 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, been here before said: Jane, if you're out there looking for support and need a shoulder or anything else to cry on and happen to read this, I'm here for you.... 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, been here before said: Jane, if you're out there looking for support and need a shoulder or anything else to cry on and happen to read this, I'm here for you.... Good boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Good boy You creepy, sexist, condscending gammon *****. You cant day that to me. Its 2024, its the law... https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calling-women-good-girl-workplace-26686881.amp Edited February 28 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, busbyfth said: lucky dip - what or why else would you think anything ? I get a lot of left field ersewipes coming at me on here and on P & B, because I have the same avatar and also, over there, they think I'm @Craigieboy, because of a similar username I've had a hell of a lot of crap on that forum from hibbys that assume this, it's quite amusing to see the effect of 1 poster from here, probably combined with the beatings on the park over the years 😂 I can smell them from some distance, Busby There's a few posters on this thread that aren't Hearts fans either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 46 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I get a lot of left field ersewipes coming at me on here and on P & B, because I have the same avatar and also, over there, they think I'm @Craigieboy, because of a similar username I've had a hell of a lot of crap on that forum from hibbys that assume this, it's quite amusing to see the effect of 1 poster from here, probably combined with the beatings on the park over the years 😂 I can smell them from some distance, Busby There's a few posters on this thread that aren't Hearts fans either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 13 hours ago, colinmaroon said: Agreed! I get dogs abuse from some for daring to suggest Jesus is important in their life. Because I'm a minister they think it will shock me. Apart from the fact I lived 44 years before becoming a Christian, and anyone in the.Glasgow Branch will tell you my language was "flowery" to say the least, the term used was childish and condescending, but not worthy of the reaction of the oversensitive. It's a case of take the log out your own eye before trying to take the speck of sawdust out of his. “…the term used was childish and condescending, but not worthy of the reaction of the oversensitive.” Exactly so. Those of a different persuasion perhaps need to own up to the real motives behind their faux outrage… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbyfth Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 21 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I get a lot of left field ersewipes coming at me on here and on P & B, because I have the same avatar and also, over there, they think I'm @Craigieboy, because of a similar username I've had a hell of a lot of crap on that forum from hibbys that assume this, it's quite amusing to see the effect of 1 poster from here, probably combined with the beatings on the park over the years 😂 I can smell them from some distance, Busby There's a few posters on this thread that aren't Hearts fans either Im naive (thick) and never thought of that - I would never dream of going on their site at all - just shows what some folk are like 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, busbyfth said: Im naive (thick) and never thought of that - I would never dream of going on their site at all - just shows what some folk are like 👍 I've never been an account holder on their site, no, just looked at the odd link on here and it usually is hilarious; always a private browsing window though, eugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Calling a woman a girl is condescending and sexist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Horrible wee ***** Edited March 7 by Pasquale for King Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 29/02/2024 at 14:17, cheetah said: Calling a woman a girl is condescending and sexist. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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