Cruyff Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I wouldn't have Kingsley anywhere near CB in a 4. It wasn't a positive experience last season when we tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Had a dream we won on penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Match day. Get this thread to top of page. Mon Hearts we can do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Clark Atkinson Kent Rowles Kingsley Devlin Denholm Oda. Boyce Vargas Shankland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 PAOK -1, 11/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Clark Atkinson Kent Rowles Kingsley Devlin Denholm Oda. Boyce Vargas Shankland No way Denholm will be starting this n Greece It’s a problem position for us with Haring out but I’d guess we’ll go for Sibbick or Cochrane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I wish I had some confidence but I really don't. I think defensively we're fine. In attack we've got enough to do damage. But we will lose this in midfield. Simply don't have the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The White Cockade said: No way Denholm will be starting this n Greece It’s a problem position for us with Haring out but I’d guess we’ll go for Sibbick or Cochrane Denholm is the only available midfielder I would trust. Sibbock is a good athlete who can’t seem to find a position that suits him. Gary Neville made a comment about how full backs playing in midfield are not good at receiving the ball on the half turn and this rules Cochrane out. Halliday got outplayed by the Hibs midfield last time he played centre midfield. Grant isn’t in the squad and probably plays further up the pitch. So that leaves Denholm as the only competent centre mid we have available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kipling Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: No way Denholm will be starting this n Greece It’s a problem position for us with Haring out but I’d guess we’ll go for Sibbick or Cochrane I wouldn't have Sibbick anywhere near midfield. He was a complete bombscare vs Dundee. I would prefer Denholm but appreciate he is too inexperienced. Is Cochrane our only option? How is Beni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Clark Atkinson Kent Rowles Kingsley Devlin Denholm Oda. Boyce Vargas Shankland Think that's pretty much where we're at. Oda needs to grow a set and start taking a man on rather than looking inside as Lowry was a revelation v Dundee when he went out wide. Denolm is the concern but I'd rather have him there than Cochrane or Sibbick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 We should be really cute and get a few of them sent off somehow. Start with that dick that looked like he was in the only way is Essex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I know it caused uproar last time but I cant shake the feeling Beni will get some game time tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Sooks said: I know it caused uproar last time but I cant shake the feeling Beni will get some game time tonight Would be class if he came back and dominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buca junior Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Did he travel ? I couldn’t see him in any of the footage this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, indianajones said: Would be class if he came back and dominated. Totally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sooks said: I know it caused uproar last time but I cant shake the feeling Beni will get some game time tonight Can't see it, maybe if he was in the squad against Dundee there might have been a small chance. We really are resting all of our hopes on Beni to sort our midfield this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sooks said: I know it caused uproar last time but I cant shake the feeling Beni will get some game time tonight Please no. Would rather we properly reintroduced him over coming weeks and get him back as a permanent fixture in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Said on BBC Beni is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 hours ago, spacerjoe said: I'm sorry, but Kingsley is absolutely murder as CB in a 4. He can't head a ball to save his life. Does nobody remember last season at all?? If you're going to swap Rowles out at least put Offiah in who is actually a CB. Or Sibbick. Also, as much as I agree with the sentiment that we can't sit in, 'nothing to lose' is not true. We're only one goal behind. This is basically a cup final where we've gone a goal down after a minute. It's a massive uphill battle, but we're not 2 or 3 down. You cant say Kingsley cant head the ball, he’s far better at doing so than Rowles and Toby. He won a few headers in the opposition box last week, something the other two rarely do. PAOK are not likely to play high balls anyway and their two CHs don’t look great in the air either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, indianajones said: We should be really cute and get a few of them sent off somehow. Start with that dick that looked like he was in the only way is Essex. I would say that has to be our best hope, an early penalty and red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgi1874 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, indianajones said: Had a dream we won on penalties. I had a dream I saved a half frozen owl. Must be the Greek beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 The big pitch might just suit oda and vargas. I don't have much optimism for this game but we have a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Cochrane will start for sure, it's just a matter of how the team is set up to include him. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3-5-2. Clark Kent, Rowles, Kingsley Atkinson x x x Cochrane x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 On 29/08/2023 at 12:29, We_are_the_Hearts said: Aberdeen is it not? Sorry thought I saw they were on too, Villa tv for £4.99 or on here. http://www.fawanews.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 hours ago, cazzyy said: Wait, you don't want us to qualify for the group stage because it might hamper us from qualifying for the group stage next season? 🫣 I presume "we can't have both" means that we can never play group stage football 2 seasons in a row if you're right? I'd love both , I just think our squad is not strong enough yet see the Killie and Dundee games and we're still in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 hours ago, spacerjoe said: I'm sorry, but Kingsley is absolutely murder as CB in a 4. He can't head a ball to save his life. Does nobody remember last season at all?? If you're going to swap Rowles out at least put Offiah in who is actually a CB. Or Sibbick. Also, as much as I agree with the sentiment that we can't sit in, 'nothing to lose' is not true. We're only one goal behind. This is basically a cup final where we've gone a goal down after a minute. It's a massive uphill battle, but we're not 2 or 3 down. Strange comment. Kingsley can handle himself in the air. He's not the best (and neither is Rowles) but as things are just now I would trust Kingsley on the ball more than I would trust Rowles. He's looking very nervous and his decision making has been shocking. We have got nothing to lose. We're on the back foot now matter what way you look at it. We need to go for it. And if we were 1-0 down in a cup final I would fully expect us to go for it then too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 hours ago, spacerjoe said: I'm sorry, but Kingsley is absolutely murder as CB in a 4. He can't head a ball to save his life. Does nobody remember last season at all?? If you're going to swap Rowles out at least put Offiah in who is actually a CB. Or Sibbick. Also, as much as I agree with the sentiment that we can't sit in, 'nothing to lose' is not true. We're only one goal behind. This is basically a cup final where we've gone a goal down after a minute. It's a massive uphill battle, but we're not 2 or 3 down. I said we can't sit in but because we don't have the personnel to do it. Our defence and midfield are weak but we have forwards to hurt them. Playing it cagey will be an absolute disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Negan said: Said on BBC Beni is out. Which makes the omission of Grant even more a shocker. We've wasted a squad space when we could have had a fit Grant in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Which makes the omission of Grant even more a shocker. We've wasted a squad space when we could have had a fit Grant in there. He must be leaving. It's the only thing that explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Not looking forward to this at all really, as the week has gone on my confidence has dipped big time. i don’t think we have the players available to do it. We could and possibly should have won last week but none the less you could tell they are still the better side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Which makes the omission of Grant even more a shocker. We've wasted a squad space when we could have had a fit Grant in there. agreed. Better than the alternatives that’s for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Strange comment. Kingsley can handle himself in the air. He's not the best (and neither is Rowles) but as things are just now I would trust Kingsley on the ball more than I would trust Rowles. He's looking very nervous and his decision making has been shocking. We have got nothing to lose. We're on the back foot now matter what way you look at it. We need to go for it. And if we were 1-0 down in a cup final I would fully expect us to go for it then too. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG1874 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Still confident we will be in the hat for the group stages. Cmon the famous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Not looking forward to this at all really, as the week has gone on my confidence has dipped big time. i don’t think we have the players available to do it. We could and possibly should have won last week but none the less you could tell they are still the better side This is my view. I can see it being a sore one, with this forum best avoided this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Surely it's the time to roll the dice and stick Nieuwenhof in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Which makes the omission of Grant even more a shocker. We've wasted a squad space when we could have had a fit Grant in there. I think we are trying to convince him to leave, but we have used him when necessary so far and with our problems in CM its weird to have registered Beni and Nieuwenhof when they’re unfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Bauld said: I wish I had some confidence but I really don't. I think defensively we're fine. In attack we've got enough to do damage. But we will lose this in midfield. Simply don't have the players. And Cochrane in the middle as he was in the first leg, is not the answer ,though I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Surely it's the time to roll the dice and stick Nieuwenhof in. Is he fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, EIEIO said: I'd love both , I just think our squad is not strong enough yet see the Killie and Dundee games and we're still in August. Rangers and Celtic both failed to beat Killie in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_razors_edge Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I’m out coaching my daughters football team tonight so won’t see any of it. Living in hope rather than expectation but really can’t see how we’re going to get a result particularly with how weak we are in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heisenberg86 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Can’t see how we progress tonight with the midfield options we have available, bit of a shambles considering we’ve been crying out for a box to box CM for what feels like an eternity! Team pretty much picks itself apart from who plays with Devlin in midfield and who’s playing LM, suppose who plays CB with Kent is debatable as well I guess but pretty sure they’ll stick with Rowles Clarke Natty. Kent. Rowles. Kingsley Devlin. Halliday. Oda. Boyce. Cochrane Shankland. I’d go for this personally, could Lowry take Hallidays spot in CM maybe? Think it could work with Cochrane dropping back in if Lowry was to break forward. With a fully fit and firing Beni in the team I reckon we go through against PAOK over 2 legs, shot ourselves in the foot by not strengthening the midfield before now! 3-1 to PAOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, MattyK82 said: Is he fit? Hes not even in Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Facebook memory today, I know it was a draw but hopefully a good omen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, MattyK82 said: Is he fit? Assumed he is. Maybe not then. If not, and maybe even if he is, we could try a Levein vs Bordeaux special. Pack out the midfield in whatever formation can be cobbled together. Might involve a gamble of going 3 at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Hes not even in Greece. We need a new MF! 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, MattyK82 said: We need a new MF! 😭 Or the ones we have to be fully fit, crazy though that sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Anyone know which channels are showing this and whether they'd be available on IPTV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, indianajones said: We should be really cute and get a few of them sent off somehow. Start with that dick that looked like he was in the only way is Essex. yep Brandon with the yellow boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Anyone know which channels are showing this and whether they'd be available on IPTV? Viaplay 1 or on here http://www.fawanews.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Anyone know which channels are showing this and whether they'd be available on IPTV? I've just signed up for Viaplay on Virgin £12.99 a month, takes 4 hours so do it soon if thinking about it, gets the Scotland games and League Cup if you can't be arsed driving to Killie on a Tuesday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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