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1 hour ago, Led Tasso said:

 

Good ****ing lord, it was a comment on the game so far, which had been shite early on, people are treating it like I was making some kind of deep critique of the management style.

 

The players look like they're having trouble being up for a tetchy game in Dundee after a roaring affair with a Greek outfit at Tynecastle, that's all.

 

Get a ****ing grip, people.

Well after that shit show....I apologise to you

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The so called experience players hide or shirk responsibility too.  Says it all about the character when they should be ones dictating from the start and leading the charge.  
 

But players are so weak now. Need to be lead on everything like they actually love being micro managed. 
 

 

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Get MacAvoy and Naismith out.  The board  went for the cheap option as they gave Neilson and his team contact extensions far too early.  Fan owned club with impostors at the top.

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Coaches should be given time to bed in their ideas and several transfer windows at least are needed to remove and replace players but I think it's plain to see the current setup is totally unfit for a club like Hearts. We need to change this up soon or were going to be watching shit like this all season. 

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30 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


That too. But Rowles needs to play it back to Clark or to a side. Playing it to a young boy with two men on him seems a terrible decision.

 

He's either fit for the first 11 or he isn't.

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The random combination of 2 players in CM needs to stop.

Playing out of position defenders in CM needs to stop.

Players flitting in and out of the starting lineup also needs to stop - too much tinkering.

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4 hours ago, edramone said:

Typo, surely?!

 

Yeah I credited us with a goal, my mistake. Finished 1-0 and not 2-1. Had Dundee win written all over it.  The club is going to repeat last season, or worse, and the season after this will be the same. Stagnation. No real ambition, a management team at the same poor level with the same attitudes, same tactics, same outcomes. Quality of players coming in just the same as before.  No gulf in quality between us and the other 9 old-firm team firms, and the other teams know it. They know that we're imposters, soft, punchless, vulnerable in every league game we play and points will be shed like confetti all the way between now and whatever top-6 finish we might achieve this season.

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What was the reasoning behind Clark coming out his box to take a short free kick and leave himself open to a lob?????????????????????????????????????????????

 

Not impressed by that or our lack of urgency..

 

Dreadful 90min and a sign of the impending meltdown Hearts Style.

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Clark needs to be told to stay in his area. We said exactly the same thing on Thursday night. He did it numerous times, comes out and then ambles back into the goal. 100% at fault for me. Shambles 

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2 minutes ago, boag1874 said:

I can deffo see this being one of these seasons where we can raise our game for big occasions to paper over cracks, but we’re dead flat in games we should be controlling. Hope I’m wrong but 4 from 9 with the start we’ve been handed isn’t really good enough. Only positive is Hibs & Aberdeen toiling as well. Need to find a way to control these games better.

This 

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craigrusty1985

Nobody at the top is willing to make meaningful change to rip the guts out of this rotten infrastructure. Allowing the club to plod along for years in turgid mediocrity. Mates doing favours for mates than actually doing due diligence on having the right people in all areas

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3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

It's not controversial, it's obvious but you still get a lot on here not seeing it.

 

Having a rookie manager isn't good enough.

The set up makes it worse.

Rowles isn't good enough.

The Hoff probably won't be either.

Denholm isn't good enough.

Ginelly was a really good player. 

Without Haring, or Devlin when on form our midfield is non-existent.

 

You'll still have folk arguing the toss though:

 

Naisy and Co are the exciting swashbuckling trio.

No issue with the set up, what's hard to understand?

The Aussies are class

Denholm is a talent

We won't miss 6 months Ginelly

Haring is poor

 

It's insane that people don't see what's staring them in the face imo.

Be alright when Beni is back.

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1 minute ago, GinRummy said:


 

Rowles is the sort of player that could get managers sacked. 

Clearly copied this from Michael Stewart in reference to Youan

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Just now, Taffin said:

 

It's not controversial, it's obvious but you still get a lot on here not seeing it.

 

Having a rookie manager isn't good enough.

The set up makes it worse.

Rowles isn't good enough.

The Hoff probably won't be either.

Denholm isn't good enough.

Ginelly was a really good player. 

Without Haring, or Devlin when on form our midfield is non-existent.

 

You'll still have folk arguing the toss though:

 

Naisy and Co are the exciting swashbuckling trio.

No issue with the set up, what's hard to understand?

The Aussies are class

Denholm is a talent

We won't miss 6 months Ginelly

Haring is poor

 

It's insane that people don't see what's staring them in the face imo.

All I’ll say is posters on here backed Neilson through dozens of identical games for years. 
 

Today was garbage. No excuses, it was awful and had to improve quickly. 
 

Once again a million passes all in front of the opponents defence and easy to defend against. Zero from midfield in either attack to defence. An utter shitshow.

 

why Naismith has backed Rowles to this point only he knows. 

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When we inevitably exit Europe on Thursday there should be an announcement that Naismith is in total charge including team selection. It may be the case at the moment but McAvoy fronting up in the media telling all and sundry that he has the final say has to stop. Now that the stupid badges rule is irrelevant he is expendable.

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This shows we need to spunk some cash on a proper experienced midfielder. Denholm would be fine I suspect with an experienced head to guide him along.

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****ing embarrassing. 
 

Well we should be embarrassed but it happens so much that I doubt the players and management are. It’s going to be another slog of a season. 
 

All the talk about how PAOK have double our budget and we can’t compete? We’ll we just got easily beaten by a team with less than HALF of our budget. Clowns.

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Utter shambles. Clark took two free kicks against PAOK, same story dawdling back to his goal. Wtf is he dojng taking free kicks in those positions? Not excusing Denholms part in it but **** me that was horrendous. Team need a rocket for the overall performance. Slight improvement when Boyce and Grant came on. Atkinson as well. Abysmal on the whole. 

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Why the **** does this always happen when Hibs and Aberdeen lose as well?! We can never capitalise on that!


AND a massive chance to go top of the ****ing league … and we blow it!!!

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This sort of away performance and result has been on repeat for the last 10 years, it’s almost a blueprint we stick with. Start slowly and have a poor first half, lose a goal, and only then try and attack the opposition, by which time they have something to defend and can see it out. Absolutely sick of it.

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We just run about like headless chickens. No plan on how to break them down 

 

Not helped by the fact we don’t have a ball playing centre mid 

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22 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


Sorry to say, what will happen is this.

 

McAvoy will get binned.

 

Everyone will pretend it was nothing to do with Naismith.

 

Naismith will get the job.

 

it’ll turn out it was everything to do with Naismith 

 

He’ll get binned.

 

We’ll waste another 18 months

 

Budge will build a ****ing new scout hut or something

And you forgot to add.........Appoint Liam (along the corridor) Fox

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Paisley Jambo

Our management team is not good enough. An easy a start as you can ask for and we have scraped 4 pts from 9. Continually getting starting line ups wrong.

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Just now, 132goals1958 said:

When we inevitably exit Europe on Thursday there should be an announcement that Naismith is in total charge including team selection. It may be the case at the moment but McAvoy fronting up in the media telling all and sundry that he has the final say has to stop. Now that the stupid badges rule is irrelevant he is expendable.


Can't disagree tbh - let him make the decisions and justify them. 

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Just now, Hashimoto said:

And you forgot to add.........Appoint Liam (along the corridor) Fox


100 per cent.

 

After another “extensive recruitment process”

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Just now, wavydavy said:

We shouldn't really be laughing at Hibs and Johnstone as we are just about as bad.

 

Sad but true. The same old cycle of mediocrity with the odd blip of success. Lording it over an ever-shoight Hibs our only real certainty.

 

Few if any of our players have a connection with Edinburgh or Hearts not that we're different to other clubs.

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This is entirely down to the management. That starting 11 was just asking to be beaten. We are nowhere strong enough to make 5 changes. Offia not a full back. Denholm not ready to start. Midfield soft and predictable. Must play our strongest team every time to get a system bedded in.

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Kent should have scored at least twice today. That fresh air shot at the end was ridiculous and he had a couple of very decent headed chances too. Vargas miss was very poor too. 

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1 minute ago, The Tackle said:

Clearly copied this from Michael Stewart in reference to Youan

I remembered it from Neil Lennon about Samaras. Stuck in my mind because I thought it was funny.

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1 minute ago, Tenor said:

Why the **** does this always happen when Hibs and Aberdeen lose as well?! We can never capitalise on that!


AND a massive chance to go top of the ****ing league … and we blow it!!!

Aberdeen didn't lose.

 

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3 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

He's either fit for the first 11 or he isn't.


I know you mean Denholm, but I don’t want Rowles near our first XI for a while now.

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14 minutes ago, Arthur Morgan said:

Remember, most people on here wanted Naismith. I certainly didn't.

Neither did I.......Hearts board incapable of conducting proper recruitment procedure.

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2 minutes ago, longmalx said:

The random combination of 2 players in CM needs to stop.

Playing out of position defenders in CM needs to stop.

Players flitting in and out of the starting lineup also needs to stop - too much tinkering.

We dont seem to have the cash to fund a level of midfield reqd that seperates us from the pack in this league.

Living in fear of Shankland bid acceptance right now.

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1 minute ago, 132goals1958 said:

When we inevitably exit Europe on Thursday there should be an announcement that Naismith is in total charge including team selection. It may be the case at the moment but McAvoy fronting up in the media telling all and sundry that he has the final say has to stop. Now that the stupid badges rule is irrelevant he is expendable.

Naismith not experienced enough. He is in charge and is making all the errors.

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2 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said:

When we inevitably exit Europe on Thursday there should be an announcement that Naismith is in total charge including team selection. It may be the case at the moment but McAvoy fronting up in the media telling all and sundry that he has the final say has to stop. Now that the stupid badges rule is irrelevant he is expendable.

 

Management insist on the charade that we have "all to play for" in a hostile 30C Greek stadium when we go Dens Park and can only manage four shots on target.

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This is why we won't get anywhere near 3rd this season.

We cannot rely on hopefully winning after yet again a horrendous first half.

And as long as we present teams with an easy goal through sloppy defensive play we will pay the price.

Why -because we have no idea of how to deal with packed defenses.

Additionally, today we tried to walk the ball into the net and when Shankland is off his game we have no plan B.

And don't talk of tired legs due to Europe, this was just another poor and embarrassing away performance.

We were lucky to get away with only one goal.

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1 minute ago, SM Sheffield said:

Kent should have scored at least twice today. That fresh air shot at the end was ridiculous and he had a couple of very decent headed chances too. Vargas miss was very poor too. 

 

He's obviously never learnt to direct a ball with his head either.

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2 minutes ago, craigrusty1985 said:

Nobody at the top is willing to make meaningful change to rip the guts out of this rotten infrastructure. Allowing the club to plod along for years in turgid mediocrity. Mates doing favours for mates than actually doing due diligence on having the right people in all areas

Far too cosy inside our club. Soft and weak to the core, jobs for the boys with little ambition.

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