Pans Jambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: Southampton have taken a fortune in fees this window. Surely we could push them towards at least £7 million? We all know it will end up being £2 though! Lavia £58 Million Ward-Prowse £40 million Livramento £35 million Salisu £15 million Adams £15 million ?? Thats a fortune! £7M isnt even 5% FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, OTT said: Just to make the point, Southampton are a team probably looking to bounce right back up. Shankland is a brilliant goalscorer in Scotland. Problem is, plenty of strikers have done well up here and been a complete car crash down south. I don't believe Southampton would be willing to pin their promotion hopes on Shankland. Maybe as a squad player, but I think it would be too much of a risk. One poster on their forum seemed to be suggesting Joël Piroe, (Swansea), with their parachute payment money isn't a problem so I'm not sure Shankland would be high up their list. Especially because we'd likely want north of £5m which could get them a proven goalscorer in their own league (and probably a younger one that they can develop). The Championship isn’t the elite level the media in England would have you believe. Shankland would definitely score a barrel load in the right team. For balance, Stephen Dobbie has got 3 promotions to his name and he couldn’t get near a rotten Scotland team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, DS98 said: The Championship isn’t the elite level the media in England would have you believe. Shankland would definitely score a barrel load in the right team. For balance, Stephen Dobbie has got 3 promotions to his name and he couldn’t get near a rotten Scotland team. Put Shankland in a team with real quality around him creating chances and he'd score loads of goals for anyone at any level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: Southampton have taken a fortune in fees this window. Surely we could push them towards at least £7 million? We all know it will end up being £2 though! Lavia £58 Million Ward-Prowse £40 million Livramento £35 million Salisu £15 million Adams £15 million ?? Precisely. £5m (or £7m) is loose change for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Quote them £10 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, gar jambo said: Hearts won’t let them low Ball us deffo not !! We don't need to anymore, particularly since a decent season and getting 3rd guarantees us £6m a year. We're also in a good place financially so don't need the money. Would take a very good offer to tempt us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hope he doesn't go, but I think it ultimately comes down to him and I can't blame him if he wants to triple his wages and potentially have the chance to play in Epl (Southampton could go back up this season) I just hope the club are well compensated if he does go, still will feel gutted even if we get 6/7 million, we ain't replacing his goals and talismanic qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 They are absolutely loaded. Charge them a premium. I suspect we’ll have a list of replacements drafted months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Where's this Southampton chat come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawlad74 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 If Shanks was sold that's 40 goals to be replaced Inc Gino's haul. That's a huge ask. We might get decent money for him tho bound to be lower than our expectation but does JS have someone else to bring in by end Aug. Gonna be a real ball ache losing him if this plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Where's this Southampton chat come from? Southampton have enquired about the signing of in-form Hearts striker Lawrence Shankland, TEAMtalk understands. Southampton look set to lose current centre-forward Che Adams, as he is closing in on an Everton move. On Saturday, the Saints rejected an opening £12million offer from Everton for Adams, but the move is now in the ‘final stages’ after the Toffees increased their proposal to £15m. Southampton manager Russell Martin has already revealed that it is imperative the club lands a new striker due to the influence Adams has on his team. And club chiefs have now identified his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Where's this Southampton chat come from? Was on Teamtalk.com earlier. Cant post a link for some reason 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 We don’t have to speak to Southampton and I don’t think we’ll listen at any less than £7million to a club with their resources. Not only do we need to trouser a big profit, we also need a a top up to replace his goals for the next two years. We don’t need to sell. He’s contracted and was happy with his contact when he signed a year ago. There is no need to extend him or pay him more as he’ll be 30 and on the slope when his contact runs out. He’ll just have to live with it unless the till is ringing big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneneilberry Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 How much would one of the arse cheeks sell a 28 goal a season striker for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Oneneilberry said: How much would one of the arse cheeks sell a 28 goal a season striker for? Think they sold Morelos for 25 million. No, wait a minute, they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG1874 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Was on Teamtalk.com earlier. Cant post a link for some reason 🤷♂️ That site also had Robbie Keane signing shankland for the Israeli league last month and shankland being Beale priority so here’s hoping nothing comes of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) If he goes I hope the club takes a full cash sale none of this structured stuff as he ain't a youngster now and I think we would end up screwed of any future payments. I don't want him to go but honestly a huge fee and we could really invest in this team. Edited August 21, 2023 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/oli-mcburnie/profil/spieler/298477 If he's worth 18m, Shankland can't be far off. 12m plus add ons. Pay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 £10m up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi kovac Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 If Southampton are interested then 10m is the starting price. Is he worth it ? No but with 3m/4m numbers kicking about they can gtf. Don't want Shanks to go because we can't replace him but if he is going then it better be for a premium, especially to a club that's raked in 200m this close season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, gar jambo said: Hearts won’t let them low Ball us deffo not !! I admire your confidence, let’s wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Takeshi kovac said: If Southampton are interested then 10m is the starting price. Is he worth it ? No but with 3m/4m numbers kicking about they can gtf. Don't want Shanks to go because we can't replace him but if he is going then it better be for a premium, especially to a club that's raked in 200m this close season Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 No idea how much truth there is in all this chat but it would derail our entire season if he goes even if we got 10M for Shanks we couldn’t replace his goals as nobody that could replace him will come to us on our wages Vital we pull out all the stops to keep him if at all possible Could anybody name one player that would score close to 30 goals that we could afford to bring here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, KG1874 said: That site also had Robbie Keane signing shankland for the Israeli league last month and shankland being Beale priority so here’s hoping nothing comes of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Absolutely agree with what most are saying re value……however gut says anything north of £3-4 million and he’ll be gone. Hope I’m wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Never heard of TeamTalk in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Shankland is worth more than Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 If I was offered Adams in a straight swap for Shankland I would say no given what Shankland offers in his leadership and all round play as well as his goals. If Adams is worth £15m then Shankland is worth at least £10m in the same market. He is only a year older and given his playing style still has a good few years in him. Don't want us to sell obviously but if Southampton want him that's the price they should be paying, with a sell on clause. And if I was on the Southampton board I would be delighted getting Shankland in for Adams plus £5m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfigo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Would Shankland score 20+ goals in the Championship? Absolutely. That's over £10m in my opinion for him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Takeshi kovac said: If Southampton are interested then 10m is the starting price. Is he worth it ? No but with 3m/4m numbers kicking about they can gtf. Don't want Shanks to go because we can't replace him but if he is going then it better be for a premium, especially to a club that's raked in 200m this close season How is he not worth it ? 28 goals last season already on course for it again this season.Kyogo is quoted at £25m and is the same age I think Shanks is worth £10m. Would we get that though probably not but we should def be looking for about £7m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: No idea how much truth there is in all this chat but it would derail our entire season if he goes even if we got 10M for Shanks we couldn’t replace his goals as nobody that could replace him will come to us on our wages Vital we pull out all the stops to keep him if at all possible Could anybody name one player that would score close to 30 goals that we could afford to bring here? Somebody gets it at last. 👍 We can't afford to lose LS. He's under contract and fans should be wanting trophies in the trophy cabinet not zeros on a bank account. You can't parade a £10 million cheque through the city😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 He's too slow to play at top level, think he would do alright in championship but can't see a club paying the value that he's worth to us. For a comparison Kevin Nisbet is taking pelters from Millwall fans for being pish already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: No idea how much truth there is in all this chat but it would derail our entire season if he goes even if we got 10M for Shanks we couldn’t replace his goals as nobody that could replace him will come to us on our wages Vital we pull out all the stops to keep him if at all possible Could anybody name one player that would score close to 30 goals that we could afford to bring here? I can't think of one. He's been excellent for the club. I'm not seeing anyone in the scottish leagues at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Homme said: Never heard of TeamTalk in my life. TeamTalk were masters of clickbait (along with Clubcall) before there were even any websites to click on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: He's too slow to play at top level, think he would do alright in championship but can't see a club paying the value that he's worth to us. For a comparison Kevin Nisbet is taking pelters from Millwall fans for being pish already. Nisbet is pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Ten million minimum. Please don't go Shanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Shankland has went from 2 to 10 million in a week. Play hard ball and some will be expecting 25 by the end of the window. He is worth what someone is willing to pay. If that matches our internal valuation he is off. If not, great we keep him. If his head it turned due to wages on offer then we have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Was on Teamtalk.com earlier. Cant post a link for some reason 🤷♂️ Is Teamtalk based in Aberdeen? Both last relevant in the '80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Offer the man a new deal, push the boat out to make him stay, Give the man what he wants wages wise, tell him that if he remains in gorgie he has the opportunity to become a legend and win a trophy, he ain't getting that at Southampton. Failing that change his name to forrest and forrests name to Shankland and then send Forrest in disguise haha, Please don't go Shanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: He's too slow to play at top level, think he would do alright in championship but can't see a club paying the value that he's worth to us. For a comparison Kevin Nisbet is taking pelters from Millwall fans for being pish already. How dare you mention Shanks in the same breath as this joker 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 £5m/£6m for Shankland would be us giving him away. Dismayed at our fans valuing him so little. £10m in today’s market. Easily. We’re so used to our club selling players on the cheap, we think it’s our job to sell our Crown Jewels for a pittance. Vlad had the correct approach with demanding £9m for Gordon. Damn right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, the posh bit said: Think they sold Morelos for 25 million. No, wait a minute, they didn't. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: £5m/£6m for Shankland would be us giving him away. Dismayed at our fans valuing him so little. £10m in today’s market. Easily. We’re so used to our club selling players on the cheap, we think it’s our job to sell our Crown Jewels for a pittance. Vlad had the correct approach with demanding £9m for Gordon. Damn right. Did Gordon not sign a new deal on higher wages to maximise what we got for him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi kovac Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, vegas-voss said: How is he not worth it ? 28 goals last season already on course for it again this season.Kyogo is quoted at £25m and is the same age I think Shanks is worth £10m. Would we get that though probably not but we should def be looking for about £7m To us he is worth more than that but sad reality is clubs outwith the uglies don't command those fees, or very rarely. BUT if we let him go and even if we spend a record fee I don't think we replace him. Best case scenario is we keep him this season and he keeps banging in the goals and we get a decent fee next year. If he does go now our season could fall apart Edited August 21, 2023 by Takeshi kovac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, luckydug said: Somebody gets it at last. 👍 We can't afford to lose LS. He's under contract and fans should be wanting trophies in the trophy cabinet not zeros on a bank account. You can't parade a £10 million cheque through the city😏 100%. We’ll never reach a higher level if we always sell our best players as soon as we get anywhere. I want a Hearts team with £10 million players in it, more than a £10 million cheque. Our opponents will be ecstatic if we sell Shankland for any money. The “accept 3-4 million” chat is utterly ludicrous!!!!!! Edited a crazy typo. Edited August 21, 2023 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, HMFC86 said: Absolutely agree with what most are saying re value……however gut says anything north of £3-4 million and he’ll be gone. Hope I’m wrong! I think he’ll only go for an amount that pacifies the fan base/club owners. Hopefully the finger is on that pulse. £4 million isn’t pacifying nearly enough people I don’t think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hearts should simply say no to any deal unless the money is absolutely incredible. These teams, English, Saudi etc can afford incredible money so we should demand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: Did Gordon not sign a new deal on higher wages to maximise what we got for him?? Yes. We can put the best deal we possibly can on the table for Shankland, but the harsh reality is it still won't come close to the wages a club like Southampton can offer due to the silly money down there. If a bid of £3m plus comes in from a club/place Shankland is open to, we have a real problem IMHO. The best chance of keeping Shankland is a good home win on Thursday that gives us a genuine chance of group stage football that he can play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Been watching Hearts for over 30 years and Shankland is one of the most financially valuable players I’ve seen play for us. Double figure millions for him, it’s as simple as that. And yes he should be on a better salary than he was a year ago. That’s the idea of our dream for Hearts isn’t it … to have a team of absolutely quality players, well here’s one. Reward him and keep him, and win the Scottish Cup again, push up the league. The financial rewards will follow that success, we are not in an era of asset stripping now. Never before has the Club been in such a strong bargaining position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) If he’s offered mega money then we are struggling obviously. I genuinely do think we should be trying (probably are to be fair) to get him on a longer deal. He is priceless to us so we can only hope it’s just rumours or that the club make him an improved deal likely outwith our wage structure. If anyone comes in then I’d be hoping we get £7m+ at the very least. who (outwith the uglies) has his record or has had it ? Nobody. If he played for the uglies he would score more given the chances created and they’d be getting a fortune. What he has done for us and gives us is priceless Edited August 21, 2023 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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