Debut 4 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 A bit of football broke out at the right time for us! Lovely piece of clever play and finish in the moment. The difference is getting him to the stage where he performs from the start and has more influence throughout the 90. Still young though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Thomaso said: So far he has been disappointing but that goal tonight was pure class! 👍 This is where I've been with him. Thought he's been too lightweight and not got involved in games enough. However the drag back and goal last night was different gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wish said: This is where I've been with him. Thought he's been too lightweight and not got involved in games enough. However the drag back and goal last night was different gravy. Was a cracking finish from the lad, nothing really to aim at but with little back lift generated great power to squeeze it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, PapaShango said: Was a cracking finish from the lad, nothing really to aim at but with little back lift generated great power to squeeze it in. Spot on. Still don't know how he managed to find the net through all the bodies in the way. Managed to find the only place he could score from. Lad has got talent, just needs to apply himself more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Has a bit of this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Classy player. Could be a big player for us if he's played in the correct position and applies himself more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Great goal, great composure. Well done that man 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I'm sure this will give him a huge confidence boost. His celebration was great to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I would have him ahead of Vargas in every selection. He brings something a bit different and isn't afraid to be creative. Boyce and Lowry playing behind Shankland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Wish said: This is where I've been with him. Thought he's been too lightweight and not got involved in games enough. However the drag back and goal last night was different gravy. He was the only one at dundee that ran at and beat his man. Definitely something good about him but might not see it properly until 10 plus games back to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 What a class winning goal, composure, style, skill, the lot was there, superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: He was the only one at dundee that ran at and beat his man. Definitely something good about him but might not see it properly until 10 plus games back to back. Yep need a proper run. Worth remembering he's only 20, although I realise signing someone on loan isn't about development from our point of view and we need them to play well for the majority of the season otherwise it's pointless. Edited September 27, 2023 by Chimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Americana said: I would have him ahead of Vargas in every selection. He brings something a bit different and isn't afraid to be creative. Boyce and Lowry playing behind Shankland . Where this Vargas crap-on coming from? Why should Vargas be dropped all of a sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Where this Vargas crap-on coming from? Why should Vargas be dropped all of a sudden? Because Lowry scored a goal apparently. The over enthusiasm for him is only going to lead to more disappointment. Needs to be used as an impact sub... where he can actually have an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Where this Vargas crap-on coming from? Why should Vargas be dropped all of a sudden? Chill out love, its not a Vargas should be dropped its a Lowry, Boyce and Shankland would be my starting front three. Other than clipping the bar with a shot I really havent seen enough from him at this stage to say its worth the buy out at the end of his loan. Its early days though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, OTT said: Because Lowry scored a goal apparently. The over enthusiasm for him is only going to lead to more disappointment. Needs to be used as an impact sub... where he can actually have an impact. Actually its based off what hes offered in glimpses, creativity, bit of flair and pace. I dont think there is much between them, if either was having a bad day I wouldnt grumble at one replacing the other from the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, Americana said: Actually its based off what hes offered in glimpses, creativity, bit of flair and pace. I dont think there is much between them, if either was having a bad day I wouldnt grumble at one replacing the other from the bench. He's not ready to start games. If he's given that responsibility again it will be a rinse and repeat of the Motherwell game. Should get the last 15/20 minutes going forward and build him up. As things stand, he doesn't get into that starting 11 ahead of anyone at the moment. Don't trust his decision making yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRiot Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Where this Vargas crap-on coming from? Why should Vargas be dropped all of a sudden? He’s looked a bit shit. I’d have a fit Oda in ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, Americana said: Chill out love, its not a Vargas should be dropped its a Lowry, Boyce and Shankland would be my starting front three. Other than clipping the bar with a shot I really havent seen enough from him at this stage to say its worth the buy out at the end of his loan. Its early days though. Only one of those should start and the other two used as impact subs. We need Vargas and Oda on the wings and either Grant or Tagawa in the no.10 if we want to keep up the pace from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Only one of those should start and the other two used as impact subs. We need Vargas and Oda on the wings and either Grant or Tagawa in the no.10 if we want to keep up the pace from the start. This guy gets it 21 minutes ago, Americana said: Chill out love, its not a Vargas should be dropped its a Lowry, Boyce and Shankland would be my starting front three. Other than clipping the bar with a shot I really havent seen enough from him at this stage to say its worth the buy out at the end of his loan. Its early days though. thank goodness you don't make team selection decisions - If you haven't seen what Vargas brings to the team, you don't much about football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Has a bit of this guy Best post of the day. Beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 If we play Rangers in semi or final would there be a clause to say he can't play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: If we play Rangers in semi or final would there be a clause to say he can't play? There is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: Where this Vargas crap-on coming from? Why should Vargas be dropped all of a sudden? Suspect it has to do with a certain ‘mentality’, and the club that Lowry is on loan from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Debut 4 said: A bit of football broke out at the right time for us! Lovely piece of clever play and finish in the moment. The difference is getting him to the stage where he performs from the start and has more influence throughout the 90. Still young though. fantastic finish, considering how long he had been on for, hope theres more from him in the near future" well played son....👏👏👏🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJ Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 6 hours ago, TexasAndy said: If we play Rangers in semi or final would there be a clause to say he can't play? The rule was brought in because it was felt it put too much pressure on the player - If he plays poorly he gets abuse for not trying against his "own" team who may qualify for Europe instead of the team he is playing on loan for. If he plays well he harms his "own" team which could affect future relationships (managers getting sacked for the result, bad tackle on teammate etc) Much easier to relieve them of the opportunity. Personally I can see both sides to the argument BUT a team wants its players on loan to get games, but not to ruin the parent club's season 😁. Lowry needs us to beat Rangers to play in the competition again this season....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Gregor Stevens while on loan to us from Rangers in 1984, in fact played for Hearts against Rangers in the famous John Robertson overhead last minute equaliser game (2-2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: There is. Is there? I thought that wasn't allowed any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said: Is there? I thought that wasn't allowed any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 09:38, Mikey1874 said: Has a bit of this guy Great memories! All our favourite stars are there: Pat Fenlon. Pa Kujabi. Wee Lee G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Not in France but playing in Motherwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam11 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Only an U21 Malta team but he’s been a stand out. Playing through the middle, hardly wasted a ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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