Bull's-eye Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, davemclaren said: There was a 'rumour' that completion had been put back from August to October but not see anything solid on that. Football supporters have always been impatient. Nature of the beast. Some people are very needy and live in cloud cuckoo land. This "football supporters have always been impatient/fickle" is a slight on the normal supporter that's just content in rocking up and supporting the team. The normal supporter that likes watching football doesn't get enough credit anymore imo 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Naisys Tackle said: So everyone that creates a threads an attention seeker then? Why feel the need to point that out to this particular thread starter? I doubt anyone has ever started a thread aiming for no interactions? Quite simply because the thread is aimed directly at McKinley. The obvious move, if you didn't want attention, would be to contact McKinley privately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Fair enough OP and questions I would say. For a fan owned club, we probably aren't getting enough information on that kind of stuff. Strategy is a bit different, as much as we would like to know, throwing your plans out into the public domain is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Naisys Tackle said: Everyone knows theres not a chance of the CEO replying and it's obvious its a point of unanswered questions to other supporters. You actually think the club will stay quiet all summer yet reply to personal emails from a fan with a list of questions? Pretty much all the questiins being asked are public knowlege with the exception of the hotel. What do you think is more likely got get a response- reasonable direct communication to the individual involved or a pant wetting "FAO" slaverbomb posted anonymously on a fitba fans forum where the intended recipient doesnt even post? Unless of course I've missed all the posts from the Hearts board etc replying to individuals on here. The OP is the very definition of attention seeking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said: Who is responsible for communications within HMFC? Whoever that person is should be senior enough to develop a communications plan, get agreements internally within the club for that plan, produce a final version of the plan and implement it. If we have a marketing manager that is not usually a role that has the same skillet required to do this type of work. If we have a marketing and communications manager then that is the person to address initially I think not a CEO. A CEO does CEO stuff and if they have agreed to any communications plan may or may not be part of it in terms of releasing information. Think that it is unclear as to what the roles are, and what the process is so hard to understand as to why there is a bit of a void in terms of information flows. Just my thoughts. Phil Turnbull is "Head of Communications" at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, been here before said: Pretty much all the questiins being asked are public knowlege with the exception of the hotel. What do you think is more likely got get a response- reasonable direct communication to the individual involved or a pant wetting "FAO" slaverbomb posted anonymously on a fitba fans forum where the intended recipient doesnt even post? Unless of course I've missed all the posts from the Hearts board etc replying to individuals on here. The OP is the very definition of attention seeking. The OP is clearly voicing his frustration at the silence from all over the club this summer. It's not exactly an open letter to the club. Very few of the questions have been communicated directly to the support with the answers. Just what we have to guess in the media. Edited July 19, 2023 by Naisys Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Poor. Absolute attention seeking. Why not contact the club? The answers to Q2,3,4 are fairly obvious. Over 15k season tickets, less than 700 tickets for away fans (except Hibs) and 3rd place finish and Hampden for targets. There isn't going to be anything interesting to say. The hotel is a fair enough question. Nah your reply is poor ! If you not interested in communication from the club then fine scroll past and ignore but I and others are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bozi said: In fairness they acted quickly in sacking Robbie, it's just that they have made a chuckle brothers production of the managerial position I would disagree regarding RN, in fact it was the delay by them that cost us 3rd place. They have actually made a pigs ear of football related decisions for a few years now. Dither, dither, dither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Nah your reply is poor ! If you not interested in communication from the club then fine scroll past and ignore but I and others are You surely know the rough answers to 2,3 and 3 though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, August Landmesser said: Good answers from you but I'd like to hear them officially from the club and not in newspaper without a single quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Naisys Tackle said: The OP is clearly voicing his frustration at the silence from all over the club this summer. It's not exactly an open letter to the club. Very few of the questions have been communicated directly to the support with the answers. Just what we have to guess in the media. Exactly. Its a list of questions aimed directly at an individual at the club who doesnt post here, who doesnt have a history of reply to posts here... Now I wonder what the best way might be to get these answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said: Phil Turnbull is "Head of Communications" at the club. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: You surely know the rough answers to 2,3 and 3 though? A don't want rough answers though , I want the accurate answer from the club like we've always got until this weird summer of silence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Phil Turnbull https://dai.ly/x8and7q Edited July 19, 2023 by Chuck Berry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, been here before said: Exactly. Its a list of questions aimed directly at an individual at the club who doesnt post here, who doesnt have a history of reply to posts here... Now I wonder what the best way might be to get these answers. It's a list used as an example of the lack of communication. No idea? Cant see the ceo emailing directly supporters when they have failed to say sod all to the whole support all summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: A don't want rough answers though , I want the accurate answer from the club like we've always got until this weird summer of silence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Yeah that was before started moving people from section x and contacting people from waiting list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said: Phil Turnbull https://dai.ly/x8and7q 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheBigO said: I honestly take it as they've rounded the wagons. There was deep cut disappointment on how last season went and dont for a second think none of it was intraspective. Neilson the right guy to go and most to blame of course but McKinlay, Savage, Anderson and, yes, Budge want and demand bigger things from our manager and themselves. Trouble is, theyve gone all steely but at the cost of us getting to know their thoughts, even their more shallow feelings on what needs done. This is the correct answer. I keep harping back to it but the 15 minute press conference with McKinlay post Neilson beheading is very revealing. At that stage he is still extremely bullish about finishing 3rd. I know some are very touchy about it because the club can do know wrong but it simply can’t be overstated how much over a disaster last season was for the clubs short term plans. They FULLY expected us to be back in the European group stages by finishing 3rd and the significant finances that went with it. Failure to achieve that and knowing that realistically we have only a tiny % of a chance of qualifying ourselves then the short term has again seen us have to be more pragmatic than was hoped. We are unable to now make the step up as was anticipated. Given McKinlay’s musings and our inability to retrieve the situation he was justifiably rinsed by Cormack at Aberdeen and I think they are all feeling pretty sheepish. How we allowed a bang average Dons side who lost 11-0 in Edinburgh within a few weeks and to a 6th tier team in the Scottish Cup to finish above us is up there with the many high profile **** ups over the years. I don’t have a problem with little comms as frankly we hear grandiose bullshit all too often that that rarely materialises. I’m hoping that they are refocusing everybody especially themselves for a far better season. Walking the walk over talking the talk is a far better plan. Edited July 19, 2023 by Luckies1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: A don't want rough answers though , I want the accurate answer from the club like we've always got until this weird summer of silence What responses were you looking for from other posters on a thread written for the attention of the CEO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Poor. Absolute attention seeking. Why not contact the club? The answers to Q2,3,4 are fairly obvious. Over 15k season tickets, less than 700 tickets for away fans (except Hibs) and 3rd place finish and Hampden for targets. There isn't going to be anything interesting to say. The hotel is a fair enough question. Managed to get your attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Yeah that was before started moving people from section x and contacting people from waiting list Educated guess, it's still over 15k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said: What responses were you looking for from other posters on a thread written for the attention of the CEO? Well it's a supporters forum for fans opinions and as you'll see from this thread there's different opinions on here and other social media platforms! I've not spoken to a single jambo I know who hasn't said the communication from the club this season has been dire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Educated guess, it's still over 15k... Ah so your guessing ? I don't want a guess, I want the same level of communication as usual from the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Ah so you're guessing ? I don't want a guess, I want the same level of communication as usual from the club Well it's hardly going to be under 15k now is it? When have the club ever done a seat by seat announcement of season ticket sales? They've always done announcements at each milestone. The last milestone was 15k. They've even done a nice wee graphic to communicate that milestone. What else are you actually after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Well it's hardly going to be under 15k now is it? When have the club ever done a seat by seat announcement of season ticket sales? They've always done announcements at each milestone. The last milestone was 15k. They've even done a nice wee graphic to communicate that milestone. What else are you actually after? Phil, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 See if you're happy with the silence and lack of communication this summer that's fine buddy , I'm not and neither are lots of others ! The problem is some will just sit and nod and make excuses and others like me will be critical when it's merited in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: See if you're happy with the silence and lack of communication this summer that's fine buddy , I'm not and neither are lots of others ! The problem is some will just sit and nod and make excuses and others like me will be critical when it's merited in my opinion Assume you don't have Twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, been here before said: Pretty much all the questiins being asked are public knowlege with the exception of the hotel. What do you think is more likely got get a response- reasonable direct communication to the individual involved or a pant wetting "FAO" slaverbomb posted anonymously on a fitba fans forum where the intended recipient doesnt even post? Unless of course I've missed all the posts from the Hearts board etc replying to individuals on here. The OP is the very definition of attention seeking. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Assume you don't have Twitter? A don't but my oldest son does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: See if you're happy with the silence and lack of communication this summer that's fine buddy , I'm not and neither are lots of others ! The problem is some will just sit and nod and make excuses and others like me will be critical when it's merited in my opinion Ah, the self proclaimed spokesman for the fans😂 My hero... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said: I would disagree regarding RN, in fact it was the delay by them that cost us 3rd place. They have actually made a pigs ear of football related decisions for a few years now. Dither, dither, dither. Agree to disagree, at home we had won 31 out of 33 points against the non "oldfirm" teams and the St Mirren defeat was the first defeat at home outwith the uglies. It was a horrific run away from home but that game lost him the support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, been here before said: Pretty much all the questiins being asked are public knowlege with the exception of the hotel. What do you think is more likely got get a response- reasonable direct communication to the individual involved or a pant wetting "FAO" slaverbomb posted anonymously on a fitba fans forum where the intended recipient doesnt even post? Unless of course I've missed all the posts from the Hearts board etc replying to individuals on here. The OP is the very definition of attention seeking. Don't be ridiculous, I'm a bit old in the tooth for attention seeking , the answers are public knowledge? Care to point me to any quotes from the football club confirming this or you just going by speculation in the press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Rudolf said: Ah, the self proclaimed spokesman for the fans😂 My hero... Not at all , as this thread shows there's some who agree and some who disagree but I do know the people I know outside jkb feel the same about lack of communication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, i8hibsh said: I believe he is tied up today in his office so you will not hear from him. 8.40 Breakfast 9.00 Put lunch in fridge 9.30 Scratch balls 10.00 Breakfast 2 10.30 Let out a big burp 11.00 Sharpen pencil 11.30 Break wind 12.00 Lunch 12.30 Take a big shit 13:00 Play Solitaire 13.30 Break wind 14.00 adjust pc monitor 14.30 Snack time 15.00 Let out a massive burp 15.40 Break wind 16.05 Take another shit 16.30 Snack time 16.45 Straighten chair 16.55 Break wind 17.00 Home No shot on Newton’s Cradle today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Photoshopped ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bull's-eye said: Photoshopped ? Out of date ! Before started selling tickets to people in section x and then contacting people on waiting list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Not at all , as this thread shows there's some who agree and some who disagree but I do know the people I know outside jkb feel the same about lack of communication To be honest, we know the answers to all of the questions you've listed other than how the hotel's getting on. To be quite honest, I'm more interested in who we're signing that the progress of something that will make no immediate difference to our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Rudolf said: To be honest, we know the answers to all of the questions you've listed other than how the hotel's getting on. To be quite honest, I'm more interested in who we're signing that the progress of something that will make no immediate difference to our team. No we don't know the answers ! You're going by what you've read in the press , the football club haven't officially said anything because we've been treated to radio silence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Out of date ! Before started selling tickets to people in section x and then contacting people on waiting list Have you stopped smoking, stopped drinking, given up the marching powder? You're on my good poster list on here and that number can be counted on one hand with 3 amputations. Unless your a rep for booking.com then all is forgiven but this wailing for answers during the summer break is kinda Shite. No offence intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Out of date ! Before started selling tickets to people in section x and then contacting people on waiting list I'm sure we'll find out the answer when we have a final figure. Is this lack of information giving you sleepless nights? Very trivial things to get so uptight about. Chill man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad the Sailor Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: No we don't know the answers ! You're going by what you've read in the press , the football club haven't officially said anything because we've been treated to radio silence But we do! If you spent as much time reading threads on here instead of spraffing on this one you might see the answers. For avoidance of doubt the only one grey area is the hotel. If that was mentioned now by our CEO there would be a barrage of "FFS what about signings". Exclusive - I was outside Tynie yesterday and safe to say by observation the hotel is still....."a work in progress" like your ability to glean basic Hearts info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Have you stopped smoking, stopped drinking, given up the marching powder? You're on my good poster list on here and that number can be counted on one hand with 3 amputations. Unless your a rep for booking.com then all is forgiven but this wailing for answers during the summer break is kinda Shite. No offence intended. As I've said and always said we've never been a better run club and I'm huge backer of the off field structure Mrs Budge and the board have put in place ! All I'm saying is some communication would be good because been too much silence this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sinbad the Sailor said: But we do! If you spent as much time reading threads on here instead of spraffing on this one you might see the answers. For avoidance of doubt the only one grey area is the hotel. If that was mentioned now by our CEO there would be a barrage of "FFS what about signings". Exclusive - I was outside Tynie yesterday and safe to say by observation the hotel is still....."a work in progress" like your ability to glean basic Hearts info. Please point me in the direction of the quotes from the football club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rudolf said: I'm sure we'll find out the answer when we have a final figure. Is this lack of information giving you sleepless nights? Very trivial things to get so uptight about. Chill man. I am chilled ! All I'm saying is be good to get some communication ! I'm hige admirer of the infrastructure the board have put in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: I am chilled ! All I'm saying is be good to get some communication ! I'm hige admirer of the infrastructure the board have put in place Like the last thread on this subject, you just get shouted down by the usual suspects who allegedly "don't care". JKB is a weird place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, jtkb said: How about we invite him for q and a session on kickback with questions filtered by mods. Sure we have done this before. I personally not overly bothered wants going on happy to let the professionals get on with the job and judge them at the end of season but know a few fans who would like update in a boring pre season 😴 While there is obvious need for questions to be filtered, I don't think it should be done by the Mods. They are here to moderate the board, not the questions the members may want to ask. Pull the questions together then vote on the top x to be asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad the Sailor Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Please point me in the direction of the quotes from the football club ? Maybe check Dave McLarens posts he has laid out a few really good posts that will help you. There's an excellent one on our CEOs visit to the Shareholders for example. In the meantime take a chill pill "no news is good news". We will hear lots soon. Just relax it's holiday season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sinbad the Sailor said: Maybe check Dave McLarens posts he has laid out a few really good posts that will help you. There's an excellent one on our CEOs visit to the Shareholders for example. In the meantime take a chill pill "no news is good news". We will hear lots soon. Just relax it's holiday season. When was that question and answer session? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Please point me in the direction of the quotes from the football club ? Have a read of the Plot ceremony updates thread. It's full of little goodies that may calm you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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