Exile fae Main Street Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 May have already been covered, but why is he no playin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Had minor injury that prevented him playing v Hamilton. I assume today was the same or Neilson opted for same defence as last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidebottom Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Broken toe. Neilson explained it pre-match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile fae Main Street Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Why is he on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile fae Main Street Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Mods can one of the Rowles threads be deleted please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Frank Sidebottom said: Broken toe. Neilson explained it pre-match. If true why put him on Bench? where’s the quote about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: If true why put him on Bench? where’s the quote about it? Maybe because both Rowles and Cochrane are carrying knocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: If true why put him on Bench? where’s the quote about it? Seen it on the "where to get a bite to eat in Motherwell" thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 With Kingsley current form I would rather play rowles with a broken toe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Seen it on the "where to get a bite to eat in Motherwell" thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Newton51 said: With Kingsley current form I would rather play rowles with a broken toe Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Dunno what's happen with him but he has been utterly dreadful In the last dozen games or so. Seems to fly under the radar for criticism but he's been one of the major disappointments of the season after a bright start. Constantly bullied by big lumps of wood like Vassels, Fletcher and Van Veen etc and ripped apart on the ground by any player of quality It really looks like the Australian market isn't uo to supplying the quality of player we require, or are we just signing the garbage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, ramrod said: Dunno what's happen with him but he has been utterly dreadful In the last dozen games or so. Seems to fly under the radar for criticism but he's been one of the major disappointments of the season after a bright start. Constantly bullied by big lumps of wood like Vassels, Fletcher and Van Veen etc and ripped apart on the ground by any player of quality It really looks like the Australian market isn't uo to supplying the quality of player we require, or are we just signing the garbage? A bit harsh but like a few others he has fell right away, another player regressing after playing under RN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, ramrod said: Dunno what's happen with him but he has been utterly dreadful In the last dozen games or so. Seems to fly under the radar for criticism but he's been one of the major disappointments of the season after a bright start. Constantly bullied by big lumps of wood like Vassels, Fletcher and Van Veen etc and ripped apart on the ground by any player of quality It really looks like the Australian market isn't uo to supplying the quality of player we require, or are we just signing the garbage? 100% agree. None of them look good enough. Our sporting director seems to think differently. Hopefully no more coming from Oz and 2,3 maybe 4 of them going this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, ramrod said: Dunno what's happen with him but he has been utterly dreadful In the last dozen games or so. Seems to fly under the radar for criticism but he's been one of the major disappointments of the season after a bright start. Constantly bullied by big lumps of wood like Vassels, Fletcher and Van Veen etc and ripped apart on the ground by any player of quality It really looks like the Australian market isn't uo to supplying the quality of player we require, or are we just signing the garbage? He plays as a sweeper with Australia. Set up doesn't play to his strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 He’s been poor recently, along with a few others. I do have confidence that he’ll come good for us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Needs a commanding cb to partner him. Reads the game very well but does get bullied quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, ramrod said: Dunno what's happen with him but he has been utterly dreadful In the last dozen games or so. Seems to fly under the radar for criticism but he's been one of the major disappointments of the season after a bright start. Constantly bullied by big lumps of wood like Vassels, Fletcher and Van Veen etc and ripped apart on the ground by any player of quality It really looks like the Australian market isn't uo to supplying the quality of player we require, or are we just signing the garbage? Every single one of our Australian players are in their national team (including on loan Kuol). We're hardly signing garbage if we're signing players who have been judged to be better than all the alternative options in that position. Coaching surely has a lot to do with it, because Australia aren't exactly a total diddy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, jonesy said: Was thinking that yesterday. Seems more of a sweeper than a central defender. Can’t defend against huddies which, given the majority of teams in the SPL have a big huddy CF, makes him a bit chocolate teapot. Reads the game but not a centre half, but Robbie persists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Awful decision to sign a CB who cant win headers in our league, Sibbick is the same. Two dominant defenders needed. It's all very well having ball playing defenders if they can still do the basics of defending, ours can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I'm not even sure he's a ball playing defender either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 The stats speak for themselves when he plays alongside a Halkett / Souttar vs when he plays alongside a Sibbick / Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: He plays as a sweeper with Australia. Set up doesn't play to his strengths. Pretty sure they played a back 4 at WC although maybe they’ve changed now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Pretty sure they played a back 4 at WC although maybe they’ve changed now? Dropped behind a ball winning centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: The stats speak for themselves when he plays alongside a Halkett / Souttar vs when he plays alongside a Sibbick / Hill. All that proves is Halkett is a good defender. Said it yesterday Joe Wright would have solved a number of our defensive problems. Completely average defender but exactly what we are missing. Huge mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18Jambo_dave74 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Don’t get the hype with this guy at all, been pretty poor all season. Part of a defence that, without Halkett, are easily bullied and barely win a header or duel. Watch him when he’s challenging for a high ball - hardly makes it off the ground or makes physical contact with the opponent. Same with the other defenders. Why we even bother putting free kicks or corners in to the box I’ve no idea - we hardly even compete for headers never mind actually win one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 No presence whatsoever, Curtis main will bully him on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdav Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Our whole team seem.unable to head the ball forward,every time it's a header it goes up in the air like a balloon then the opponents win the second ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam11 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 A brilliant player when partnered with a no nonsense centre half. He’s a brilliant ball playing CB, and reads the game well. Unfortunately he’s very slight and not the tallest, it’s clear the oppositions big strikers target him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Mallin_51 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Personally think there’s much worse than Kye Rowles at the moment. As many have said with Halkett next to him we’ll see a massive improvement. I like him and for me he should be a regular starter. Just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, AC Mallin_51 said: Personally think there’s much worse than Kye Rowles at the moment. As many have said with Halkett next to him we’ll see a massive improvement. I like him and for me he should be a regular starter. Just my opinion Question is will Halkett ever manage to stay fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, chazza74 said: No presence whatsoever, Curtis main will bully him on Saturday It could be a very tough afternoon for Rowles! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Mallin_51 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott Leitch said: Question is will Halkett ever manage to stay fit? That is a very good point. Judging how this season has went if we can get him for half a dozen games on the trot that’ll be a resounding improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18Jambo_dave74 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 First game of the season - done over the top for Ross County goal. Following week - should bring Boyle down in midfield, Hibs go on an equalise. Dundee United away - ball over his head for Fletcher’s goal. Same thing happens (from GK‘s kick) that leads to Gordon’s injury in the same game. Livi game - sent off for bringing down Nouble. Saved by Gordon and Gino. St J away - unnecessary hospital pass to Shankland for the second goal when we were cruising in the game. Dundee Utd at home - ball over his head (again from a GK kick), loses his man, Fletcher misses a sitter to make it 2-0 to Utd. Celtic at home - misses the ball after 3 mins, we’re 1-0 down. Aberdeen game - Duk free header in the penalty box, 2-0 down. St Mirren game - should have given away a last minute penalty for handball. St J at home - once again done over the top losing his man and would have been sent off but fortunately their player was marginally offside. After yesterday I can add Doidge and Vassell to the list of players that have bullied him (Obika, Van Veen , Fletcher, Main, White etc) Don’t remember him winning a single header when up against Killie’s strike force. Must’ve passed it straight out the park at least 3 times in the first half yesterday too. I really hope he improves physically over the summer but as it is I’ve no idea how he gets such an easy time. Particularly compared to the treatment that the likes of Hill, Sibbick and Neilson have all had at varying points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said: First game of the season - done over the top for Ross County goal. Following week - should bring Boyle down in midfield, Hibs go on an equalise. Dundee United away - ball over his head for Fletcher’s goal. Same thing happens (from GK‘s kick) that leads to Gordon’s injury in the same game. Livi game - sent off for bringing down Nouble. Saved by Gordon and Gino. St J away - unnecessary hospital pass to Shankland for the second goal when we were cruising in the game. Dundee Utd at home - ball over his head (again from a GK kick), loses his man, Fletcher misses a sitter to make it 2-0 to Utd. Celtic at home - misses the ball after 3 mins, we’re 1-0 down. Aberdeen game - Duk free header in the penalty box, 2-0 down. St Mirren game - should have given away a last minute penalty for handball. St J at home - once again done over the top losing his man and would have been sent off but fortunately their player was marginally offside. After yesterday I can add Doidge and Vassell to the list of players that have bullied him (Obika, Van Veen , Fletcher, Main, White etc) Don’t remember him winning a single header when up against Killie’s strike force. Must’ve passed it straight out the park at least 3 times in the first half yesterday too. I really hope he improves physically over the summer but as it is I’ve no idea how he gets such an easy time. Particularly compared to the treatment that the likes of Hill, Sibbick and Neilson have all had at varying points. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, 18Jambo_dave74 said: First game of the season - done over the top for Ross County goal. Following week - should bring Boyle down in midfield, Hibs go on an equalise. Dundee United away - ball over his head for Fletcher’s goal. Same thing happens (from GK‘s kick) that leads to Gordon’s injury in the same game. Livi game - sent off for bringing down Nouble. Saved by Gordon and Gino. St J away - unnecessary hospital pass to Shankland for the second goal when we were cruising in the game. Dundee Utd at home - ball over his head (again from a GK kick), loses his man, Fletcher misses a sitter to make it 2-0 to Utd. Celtic at home - misses the ball after 3 mins, we’re 1-0 down. Aberdeen game - Duk free header in the penalty box, 2-0 down. St Mirren game - should have given away a last minute penalty for handball. St J at home - once again done over the top losing his man and would have been sent off but fortunately their player was marginally offside. After yesterday I can add Doidge and Vassell to the list of players that have bullied him (Obika, Van Veen , Fletcher, Main, White etc) Don’t remember him winning a single header when up against Killie’s strike force. Must’ve passed it straight out the park at least 3 times in the first half yesterday too. I really hope he improves physically over the summer but as it is I’ve no idea how he gets such an easy time. Particularly compared to the treatment that the likes of Hill, Sibbick and Neilson have all had at varying points. Succinctly put, he's a myth atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Can we just assume everyone hates all players, management team, the board, and fan ownership until further notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 His reliance on his left foot reminds me of Tosh McKinlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 His best position is as the left side of a back 3 or as a fullback. I think he's limited as a CH in a back 2, his WC performance notwithstanding. He's been forced into playing centrally because of the loss of Halkett and our inability to find someone who can replace his presence. He's been better in the middle than anyone else but he's not the big enforcer type and it's been showing recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) So basically we are saying we should be looking to sell him now while he is still living off his World Cup experience And before everyone else realises we have been sold a pup. Hes Perry Kitchen for 2023 Edited April 2, 2023 by jbee647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I'm not seeing it, not in our league anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: His best position is as the left side of a back 3 or as a fullback. I think he's limited as a CH in a back 2, his WC performance notwithstanding. He's been forced into playing centrally because of the loss of Halkett and our inability to find someone who can replace his presence. He's been better in the middle than anyone else but he's not the big enforcer type and it's been showing recently. Sorry but got to disagree 100%. There’s no way his best position in left of a 3 and he’s never a full back in a million years. He’s not good on the ball, so much so that teams leave him on it. He is a very good defender. He can read the game very well and is positionally excellent. Some games near the start of the season he was like a magnet in the box. Basically he’s not good enough in the ball to play left of a 3 and not physical enough to play centrally in a 3. He needs an aggressive ******* (Halkett) next to him in a 2. Like he does with Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Our entire defence is soft as shit. I'd wait and see him with capable defenders beside him. He's shown it on the biggest stage with very good mentions from pundits. Bigger level than any of the shite he plays with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Our entire defence is soft as shit. I'd wait and see him with capable defenders beside him. He's shown it on the biggest stage with very good mentions from pundits. Bigger level than any of the shite he plays with. We shouldn't have players who need support from others to make them look good. Rowles or Sibbick are only good when Halkett is next to them winning headers. Snodgrass is only good if Devlin will do his running for him. Basically means we are two men down because they can't do the jobs they are employed to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewfromtheEast Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 hours ago, tian447 said: Every single one of our Australian players are in their national team (including on loan Kuol). We're hardly signing garbage if we're signing players who have been judged to be better than all the alternative options in that position. Coaching surely has a lot to do with it, because Australia aren't exactly a total diddy team. Our current Scotland team would take 3 or 4 off them, minimum, imo. I think they're hard working but really pretty basic. At the world cup no one stood out other than as a kind of nice wee cameo. Not sure it's a market that's too great for SPL clubs. Not a lot of successes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 He’s certainly not a centre back. A few inches too small. This must be the smallest Hearts team in 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 9 hours ago, PaddysBar said: He’s certainly not a centre back. A few inches too small. This must be the smallest Hearts team in 40 years. We have somehow managed to asemble a squad of footballers who whilst tidy enough as players are completely devoid of pace, size and strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 ****ing garbage. Should have been dropped after his amateur shite for the 1st Celtic goal in the cup...and that defending today. Jesus. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazhearts Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 He is a good defender but is physically weak and not good enough in the air for the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 The opposite of what you need in this league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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