Negan Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Hes a Rat. End of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ked said: How do you know the poster is Rangers? He's been open with it. Do keep up, or at least try. Edited March 4, 2022 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Don't care what anyone thinks of him. As long as he is doing his job he's important for us for rest of season. Sometimes we have to just live the here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboRossi79 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: Don't care what anyone thinks of him. As long as he is doing his job he's important for us for rest of season. Sometimes we have to just live the here and now. There's a good argument that once 3rd is sewn up then he shouldn't play again and we give game time to Sibbick alongside Halkett so they can start forming a partnership for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, JamboRossi79 said: There's a good argument that once 3rd is sewn up then he shouldn't play again and we give game time to Sibbick alongside Halkett so they can start forming a partnership for next season. Only if we get knocked out of the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: He's been open with it. Do keep up, or at least try. I wasnt aware hence I asked. You are wound up tight are ye no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 According to Andy Halliday he has done his achilles again. Andy Halliday claims Rangers bound John Souttar suffered achilles injury as he lets slip full Hearts nightmare - Daily Record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Devlin tore his hamstring and gms broke his hand as well. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, steve123 said: According to Andy Halliday he has done his achilles again. Andy Halliday claims Rangers bound John Souttar suffered achilles injury as he lets slip full Hearts nightmare - Daily Record Not going to open the link, but if John has damaged his Achilles again, it will give me no pleasure. The guy deserves some luck with his career. It would be interesting to see the reaction from Rangers and their cheerleaders in the Scottish sports media. It also severely damages our chances of winning the cup. We should finish third comfortably enough, so Hearts decision to keep John, to enhance our chances of earning more money by European qualification than Rangers' cut price fee offer, stands good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#9 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Im doubtful(hopeful) that halliday would be announcing this kind of thing on a podcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 If its a serious Achilles injury, an absolute tragedy for him, as his top tier career would probably be as good as over. Given what they are paying him, Rangers would have a clause for this specific thing in the PCA and likely pull out. They’d not honour it. As for Hearts we’d have no choice to cut our losses. For Johns sake I hope Halliday was just speculating, or not fully accurate, and maybe just a bit of inflammation / knock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Even if this isn’t a serious injury it does highlight the reasons for him looking for a move. I still think Rangers were the wrong club both financially and for this very reason that they’re in no position to sign an injured player and support his rehabilitation. I’m certain he’d have got more money and support from an English championship side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 As much as I don't ever want a professional player to get a career ending injury, I am pleased that he has signed for them and we don't have to be the ones taking care of him again. If they do back out that is between him, them and his agent, we are thankfully clear of any responsibility. We done right by him before but this could be costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Will severely dent our chances of winning the cup if he is out for the season. I thought it might be his ankle again as it was more from the tackle thank anything else. When he has done his Achilles in the past he has went down with no one near him. I think if it was that, he wouldn't have been walking off the pitch in the way he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Even if this isn’t a serious injury it does highlight the reasons for him looking for a move. I still think Rangers were the wrong club both financially and for this very reason that they’re in no position to sign an injured player and support his rehabilitation. I’m certain he’d have got more money and support from an English championship side. He wanted to stay in Scotland. Think we can read between the lines, that he wanted to move to Rangers in January and for Hearts to get some money. Probably just wanted to make his move then, while he was fully 100%. Didn’t want to wait. That was why the PCA went public. It would only have been done with johns agreement. Other players sign PCA and want it kept confidential to the end of the season. Announcing it in Jan was an attempt to make the move happen then. And it’s perfectly understandable when you look at what he’s been through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 It’s a nightmare for Souttar, hopefully he’ll have the physical and mental strength to come back from this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) On 04/03/2022 at 12:35, JamboRossi79 said: There's a good argument that once 3rd is sewn up then he shouldn't play again and we give game time to Sibbick alongside Halkett so they can start forming a partnership for next season. Ridiculous if we dont. Unless we have cup run to consider. Edited March 9, 2022 by pettigrewsstylist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingJambo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hopefully not as we’re all wanting a cup run. If it is the case I’d rather see Haring replace him rather than Sibbick or Taylor for remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, StirlingJambo said: Hopefully not as we’re all wanting a cup run. If it is the case I’d rather see Haring replace him rather than Sibbick or Taylor for remainder of the season. once we no longer have a need for Soutter we need to be pairing Sibbick with Halkett ASAP for prep for next season. Sibbick was signed to replace Soutter. Taylor is on loan, and Haring is only emergency CB cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Before we write him off for the season, I'd hold off and see what the club says. Seemed to me like Halliday was exaggerating the injuries when listing them so as to make it sound like it was a wild game, which it was. It didn't look anything like an achilles injury he's suffered before, he stayed on the pitch for a few minutes and walked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, StirlingJambo said: Hopefully not as we’re all wanting a cup run. If it is the case I’d rather see Haring replace him rather than Sibbick or Taylor for remainder of the season. Haring will be needed in midfield. Devlin is out as well possibly for he season. It’s Sibbick who would slot in and hopefully look more comfortable alongside Halkett. Halks is now the most important player at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: once we no longer have a need for Soutter we need to be pairing Sibbick with Halkett ASAP for prep for next season. Sibbick was signed to replace Soutter. Taylor is on loan, and Haring is only emergency CB cover. "Have a plan to replace Souttar, looking for two more centre-backs" Above was posted on the AGM thread and apparently discussed at yesterdays meeting. I'm not convinced Sibbick will replace Souttar long term but time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: He wanted to stay in Scotland. Think we can read between the lines, that he wanted to move to Rangers in January and for Hearts to get some money. Probably just wanted to make his move then, while he was fully 100%. Didn’t want to wait. That was why the PCA went public. It would only have been done with johns agreement. Other players sign PCA and want it kept confidential to the end of the season. Announcing it in Jan was an attempt to make the move happen then. And it’s perfectly understandable when you look at what he’s been through. It’s his choice to stay in Scotland that part I can agree with the rest I’m not buying. Rangers announced the PCA to force our hand to sell him. If what you say had been the plan then Hearts Souttar and Rangers would’ve agree a transfer with no need for a PCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 04/03/2022 at 12:35, JamboRossi79 said: There's a good argument that once 3rd is sewn up then he shouldn't play again and we give game time to Sibbick alongside Halkett so they can start forming a partnership for next season. Sibbick and Halkett are 100% not our centre-back pairing for next season. Both are right sided players. We are looking to sign one or two left sided centre-backs in the summer. If we have to play without Souttar for the rest of the season it will be Halkett and Kingsley if it’s four at the back and it will be Sibbick, Halkett and Kingsley if it’s three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, GinRummy said: "Have a plan to replace Souttar, looking for two more centre-backs" Above was posted on the AGM thread and apparently discussed at yesterdays meeting. I'm not convinced Sibbick will replace Souttar long term but time will tell. 6 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Sibbick and Halkett are 100% not our centre-back pairing for next season. Both are right sided players. We are looking to sign one or two left sided centre-backs in the summer. If we have to play without Souttar for the rest of the season it will be Halkett and Kingsley if it’s four at the back and it will be Sibbick, Halkett and Kingsley if it’s three. Thanks for educating me guys. I'd thought Sibbick was brought in to play CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Sibbick and Halkett are 100% not our centre-back pairing for next season. Both are right sided players. We are looking to sign one or two left sided centre-backs in the summer. If we have to play without Souttar for the rest of the season it will be Halkett and Kingsley if it’s four at the back and it will be Sibbick, Halkett and Kingsley if it’s three. The poster said “a partnership” not the partnership. Halkett as the pivot man in the middle, has 2 partnerships. 1 on his left 1 on his right. At this moment AFAIK he has not yet started with Sibbick at RCB, so they do need to get some games together to form a partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Sorry if I have missed it, but is Smith due back soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, lou said: Sorry if I have missed it, but is Smith due back soon? Last I heard was 'can't put a timescale on it' - not sure if there's been any updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartin1987 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Halliday could be moved in to defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Think I'll wait to any official news, you know, like from the actual football club itself, on any injuries (Souttar included) before indulging in idle speculation about the extent of them on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacerjoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Halks is now the most important player at the club. Did you ever think you'd be saying that now vs your thoughts in August? He's definitely improved tremendously this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 STV reporting his Achilles is fine it was just a twisted ankle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacerjoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said: Think I'll wait to any official news, you know, like from the actual football club itself, on any injuries (Souttar included) before indulging in idle speculation about the extent of them on the internet. I'd actually heard he'd had both legs amputated. Neilson hopeful he'll at least make the bench this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heisenberg86 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Looked like he rolled his ankle when he put that tackle in on Saturday, if he done his Achilles again he’d have been in bits on the park before he came off. Think it was a simple mistake by Halliday on the podcast tbf, hopefully Souttar isn’t out for too long because although I hate the way he’s leaving he’s been tremendous since the move was announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingJambo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Haring will be needed in midfield. Devlin is out as well possibly for he season. It’s Sibbick who would slot in and hopefully look more comfortable alongside Halkett. Halks is now the most important player at the club. Yeh I get we might need him in in there, I’m just thinking as we’re at home maybe try McEneff in midfield with Beni and put Haring in at centre back with Halkett. For me Sibbick hasn’t looked upto it so far that’s not to say he’ll not become a good player for us. I just think with it being our biggest game of the season we shouldn’t be throwing in a player who hasn’t had a good game for us since his return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Halliday causing carnage talking pish 😂 Hope he’s wrong about Devlin too 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Spoke to JS this morning, nothing to do with his achilles. He twisted his ankle when conceding the penalty. Same ankle he hurt in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim Panzee said: Thanks for educating me guys. I'd thought Sibbick was brought in to play CB. Two right footed players play together all the time, Souttar and Halkett for example. We currently have 5 CBs in the squad, with Souttar and Moore away they will need replaced next season. Sibbick was signed to play in the defence and will do so moving forward. Edited March 9, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuperslim1874 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: Spoke to JS this morning, nothing to do with his achilles. He twisted his ankle when conceding the penalty. Same ankle he hurt in January. Good news. Anything to add re Devlin…is it a season-ender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, steve123 said: According to Andy Halliday he has done his achilles again. Andy Halliday claims Rangers bound John Souttar suffered achilles injury as he lets slip full Hearts nightmare - Daily Record That should be his last episode, divulging information like this isn’t on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Two right footed players play together all the time, Souttar and Halkett for example. We currently have 5 CBs in the squad, with Souttar and Moore away they will need replaced next season. Sibbick was signed to play in the defence and will do so moving forward. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That should be his last episode, divulging information like this isn’t on. Possible he’s been told to say it to keep St Mirren guessing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That should be his last episode, divulging information like this isn’t on. Let’s wait and see as personally I don’t think he would come out with all that if it were true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Possible he’s been told to say it to keep St Mirren guessing ? Saying nothing would keep them guessing, he’s confirmed that GMS broke his hand which was speculated on and that Atkinson will be ok. Two things they didn’t know. No other teams players are allowed to divulge this sort of information. It has to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, theshed said: Let’s wait and see as personally I don’t think he would come out with all that if it were true It was on last night, I’m sure someone who listens to these Fannie’s could confirm it easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That should be his last episode, divulging information like this isn’t on. I like Halliday as a player but his indiscreet media profile really irritates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I like Halliday as a player but his indiscreet media profile really irritates me. I’m not that keen on anything about him to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Souttar injured himself making a crazy challenge, he must realise he can’t take that risk for the team and himself going forward. Hope he and the others are back soon, still not seen what actually happened to GMS or a proper angle on Cochranes head knock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Souttar injured himself making a crazy challenge, he must realise he can’t take that risk for the team and himself going forward. Hope he and the others are back soon, still not seen what actually happened to GMS or a proper angle on Cochranes head knock. It was a bizarre challenge. A complete brain fart. Stand up and he’s going no where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Looked like GMS broke a finger or his wrist mid it’s finger would guess he won’t be out too long If it’s his wrist obviously longer Looked like Souttar banged his ankle in the challenge Cochrane bang on the head so going through concussion protocols Atkinson and Ginnelly no idea Just going by what I saw watching match in Hearts tv Souttar obviously the biggest miss but GMS looked quite sharp so shame he’s out for a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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