Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, davemclaren said: it’s all about balance for me. I don’t think GMS can defend at all and that needs compensated for. I think Smith can still play on the right but it’s clear that Atkinson is the future first choice wing back. Three CHs and two DMs gives all the protection the two wing backs should need against St Johnstone in their current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MattyK82 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Three CHs and two DMs gives all the protection the two wing backs should need against St Johnstone in their current state. Yeah - I’d agree in a game like this, the DMs can help protect the back 3 if the WBs have bombed forward. Against the better teams, I would be more wary. St Johnstone are without a lot of their best players. We need to find our rhythm again and take the 3pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumjambo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 hours ago, briever said: If you think Cochrane is shite wait until you see GMS. Cochrane is pretty shite but Strangely however he is a massive upgrade on anyone else we've had playing left back over the last 5 or 6 seasons Bar kingsley of course who is pure class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 St Johnstone away is always a minging fixture for us, and has been for years. I'd like to see us get that punted right out the window and start aggressively and pressing the ball high up the park. They are absolutely nothing special, so we don't need to worry about aimless punts up field to one forward standing on his own. I'd also like to see us start shooting from outside the box and trying to test goalkeepers, instead of always trying to score from inside the box. We never seem to have someone who can have a pop on target, whenever we do end up with someone having a go, it's blasted miles over. I think we'll win by a goal or two, unless both teams get picked up by the wind and carried away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 10 hours ago, JimmyCant said: There is another storm warning right at the back of this one. Friday night to Saturday early afternoon. storm Eunice or Edith or some other E name Predict Dudley own goal. Wind assisted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Three CHs and two DMs gives all the protection the two wing backs should need against St Johnstone in their current state. Not with GMS at lwb imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 hours ago, davemclaren said: I’m no big fan of Cochrane but he still has time to develop. GMS at wing back sounds very scary. I just dont think we have good enough players to use wingbacks and its beginning to hamper us on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Not with GMS at lwb imo. He'll have very little defensive responsibility though. Worth a shot,IMO, but still Robbie going with square pegs in round holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: He'll have very little defensive responsibility though. Worth a shot,IMO, but still Robbie going with square pegs in round holes. Yip tinker man will tinker and haters goanna hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Midloth_Iain said: Any time a club is desperate for points, its a good time to play HMFC . 😏 Yes like Dundee and that was at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, tian447 said: St Johnstone away is always a minging fixture for us, and has been for years. I'd like to see us get that punted right out the window and start aggressively and pressing the ball high up the park. They are absolutely nothing special, so we don't need to worry about aimless punts up field to one forward standing on his own. I'd also like to see us start shooting from outside the box and trying to test goalkeepers, instead of always trying to score from inside the box. We never seem to have someone who can have a pop on target, whenever we do end up with someone having a go, it's blasted miles over. I think we'll win by a goal or two, unless both teams get picked up by the wind and carried away. I don't get this " it's a bogey ground " talk. If the manager does his job then the players should not have a mental block going to any ground. Ok if the ground is a lower league and is a tip then you can expect the locals to do better on a pitch they are familiar with. St J's ground is up to a standard and we should go there thinking we will can win. They are also without one of the better keepers in the league ( injured last night ) so I would expect us to batter their goal from all angles and not try to walk the ball into the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Ginnelly down the middle got us some joy last time.Maybe worth trying. And at least at some point I'd like to see our box to box attacking midfielder McEneff given a chance to actually do what he says he's good at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: GMS to move to LWB role to get the best out of him.......in other words cochrane is shite. Must win to get back on track. St. Johnstone are a club with very few goals but a normally stout defence. Great time to try GMS at LWB—he won't be as strong defensively but he can't help but offer more going forward than Cochrane has recently, and we won't need his defense nearly as much in Perth. GMS is second on the team to McKay in assists. His passing has remained strong even as his goals have dried up. For me: Smith Souttar Kingsley Aktinson Devlin Baningame GMS Ginnelly Simms McKay They're going to be hard to break down and we need goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: St. Johnstone are a club with very few goals but a normally stout defence. Great time to try GMS at LWB—he won't be as strong defensively but he can't help but offer more going forward than Cochrane has recently, and we won't need his defense nearly as much in Perth. GMS is second on the team to McKay in assists. His passing has remained strong even as his goals have dried up. For me: Smith Souttar Kingsley Aktinson Devlin Baningame GMS Ginnelly Simms McKay They're going to be hard to break down and we need goals. Is it not on them to come out and attack given their position?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: Is it not on them to come out and attack given their position?? Given their position I imagine they'd be content in a Hearts game to just grind out a point in a 0-0 draw. Draws against top teams and a handful of wins over their rivals should be plenty to see them clear. They have games against County, Livingston, and Hibs before the split that almost certainly look like better opportunities for 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Hopefully the players and management are up for it and we comfortably win. One nil would do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1-1 Simms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin1874 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Anyone else’s tickets still not arrived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Vin1874 said: They went on sale last month? Pretty sure it was just this week 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bainy said: Pretty sure it was just this week 🤷♂️ This certainly implies they went on sale on Monday. 🤷♂️ https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/ticket-info-st-johnstone-a-1-2-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, Vin1874 said: Anyone else’s tickets still not arrived? I thought it was just a print your own option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Drumjambo said: Cochrane is pretty shite but Strangely however he is a massive upgrade on anyone else we've had playing left back over the last 5 or 6 seasons Bar kingsley of course who is pure class I don't think he's shite, the person I replied to does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: I just dont think we have good enough players to use wingbacks and its beginning to hamper us on the pitch. Indeed, which two windows in isn’t great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, davemclaren said: Not with GMS at lwb imo. Possibly, but if the ultra cautious Mcinnes used him and Hayes at wing back he can’t be that bad there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Bainy said: Pretty sure it was just this week 🤷♂️ 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: This certainly implies they went on sale on Monday. 🤷♂️ https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/ticket-info-st-johnstone-a-1-2-3 Definitely went on sale at start of the month as bought mine on the 4th and I'd waited a couple of days. Anyway, anyone remind me if you need to book to park at the ground or just first come, first served? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Possibly, but if the ultra cautious Mcinnes used him and Hayes at wing back he can’t be that bad there. Maybe not though we was a bit younger then. Anyway, we may find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airthjambo Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Definitely went on sale at start of the month as bought mine on the 4th and I'd waited a couple of days. Anyway, anyone remind me if you need to book to park at the ground or just first come, first served? 🙂 It was certainly 1st come, 1st served for parking at the midweek game earlier this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, airthjambo said: It was certainly 1st come, 1st served for parking at the midweek game earlier this season 👍 cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 When I saw the headline that Neilson know how to get the best out of GMS I genuinely thought we'd released him. Sadly not ☹️ St Johnstone 2 Hearts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 PPV is £17.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Carl Weathers said: PPV is £17.50. Bloody hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Three CHs and two DMs gives all the protection the two wing backs should need against St Johnstone in their current state. Why not a back 4 with Kingsley offering support to GMS (as a winger or wide left midfielder!) at left back? Honestly, I think the wing back system has slowly subdued our ability to turn defence into attack quicker. In turn, you end up with too many players behind the ball. We lose a body in an attacking position. It was working early season but another element could be that teams now set up against it. When RN said he won’t change the way we play, I wasn’t sure if he meant the passing game or his system? I like the idea we are working at being better in possession but the system is clearly hindering us at the moment, and possibly player selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Why not a back 4 with Kingsley offering support to GMS (as a winger or wide left midfielder!) at left back? Honestly, I think the wing back system has slowly subdued our ability to turn defence into attack quicker. In turn, you end up with too many players behind the ball. We lose a body in an attacking position. It was working early season but another element could be that teams now set up against it. When RN said he won’t change the way we play, I wasn’t sure if he meant the passing game or his system? I like the idea we are working at being better in possession but the system is clearly hindering us at the moment, and possibly player selection. I’ve been an advocate of a back four for a while but as you say it doesn’t look like he’s changing it anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, Carl Weathers said: PPV is £17.50. Hopefully Hesgoal will have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, The Treasurer said: I thought it was just a print your own option It was/is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNelly15 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Hopefully Hesgoal will have it. Hesgoal will definitely have it on 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, McNelly15 said: Hesgoal will definitely have it on 👍🏽 🤞, **** giving them £17:50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, Barack said: Storm Eunice going to make this a ****ing nightmare for travelling for folk. We should sign him. 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 51 minutes ago, davemclaren said: We should sign him. 🧐 Her. Dudley is a him Then a she, Eunice Franklin is next. No gender neutral names in the sequence tho. Disgraceful. The met Office needs to get with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InternationalJambo Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Barack said: Storm Eunice going to make this a ****ing nightmare for travelling for folk. Hopefully be ok come Saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Her. Dudley is a him Then a she, Eunice Franklin is next. No gender neutral names in the sequence tho. Disgraceful. The met Office needs to get with it. Sorry. I took Storm to be a male first name. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Sorry. I took Storm to be a male first name. 🤷♂️ Alternates. No idea how I knew that as general knowledge. I just checked to be sure. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Sorry. I took Storm to be a male first name. 🤷♂️ Alternates. No idea how I knew that as general knowledge. I just checked to be sure. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I’ve been an advocate of a back four for a while but as you say it doesn’t look like he’s changing it anytime soon. Weren't you adamant we are playing a back four the other day? Don't recall you giving him any credit when you thought that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Must say I'm surprised at the number of posters to date who believe that we will lose to an injury ravaged side which sits on the bottom of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Must say I'm surprised at the number of posters to date who believe that we will lose to an injury ravaged side which sits on the bottom of the league. Me and you both. st Johnstone have been decent in the past but this team isn’t. Add the injuries to that and we should be confident of going there and taking 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Gordon Souttar Sibbick Kingsley Smith Devlin Beni Halliday McKay Simms GMS That's somewhere between prediction and my own. I'd personally be playing Souttar in the middle of the three, especially with Smith at RWB. Sibbick been dropped in at deepend in the middle there! Not that he's done poorly but hopefully the week of training will have helped him. I'd never particularly choose to play Halliday but think these games are ones Robbie will like him for. I can't say it enough, we need Simms running in behind time and time again. Keep curving those runs - expect the pass, don't wait for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Seeming we haven’t beaten them in the last 14 games up there! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Thomaso said: Seeming we haven’t beaten them in the last 14 games up there! 😳 1 win in 17 😕 grim reading but there doesn’t seem like a better opportunity with the number of players they have out - especially Wotherspoon and Zander Clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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