Monsieur Maroon Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. Good to have some actual news rather than drivel about made up transfer fees 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Monsieur Maroon said: Good to have some actual news rather than drivel about made up transfer fees 👍 Ironically its actual news about Dundee Unites made up fees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, andrew said: I'm sure he will be worth more than that at some point, it doesn't mean that it's value for money though. My point was that we could find better overseas if we were looking to spend £700k+ on a new striker. Maybe ! Maybe not. We know what we are getting with Ellis. High confidence that he will score and creat goals and almost certainly would be able to sell him on and recoup that money. I don’t think we would pay it, and I don’t think it will happen. But I’d love it to happen and I’m certain the club would not be left out of pocket in any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. they either did or did not submit in writing. Will be easy to prove one way or another.. I suspect DUFC have ****ed up here and are now scrambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. Suspect Utd have made a James hunt of this and they’ve gone public to make us look like the bad guys. Mr Savage will have steam coming out his ears at how much media this has gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I'm sure Hearts have been told by the player the date he was offered a new contract. If they have messed up and we get him for hee-haw then it's going to be very pleasing indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: sound like my sister in law who won’t buy a house because she “thinks” they are too expensive 😂. Sadly our thoughts and what we think doesn’t control the market. A 21 year old English striker who is capable and likely to scoremore than 20 goals is worth far more than that and it’s just a fact a life. Aberdeen sold Scott McKenna for £4million. An absolute huddy of a player At some point in his career, Ellis simms will sell for big numbers .. well Above £1.6 m That shows how much money there is in English football not what we should be spending. Maybe your sister-in-law is right about houses by the way if prices are about to fall.😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: they either did or did not submit in writing. Will be easy to prove one way or another.. I suspect DUFC have ****ed up here and are now scrambling. Probably emailed it to him 🙄... y'know, the whole dundee-email-spam-thing-saga that seems to go on up there, from time to time... when it suits. Maybe they share the same internet/broadband provider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. That would be sweet. If we end up paying no fee we could give away a small donation to charity instead just to really wind them up. Announce it along the lines "since we got Neilson for a free and saved a load of wonga, we have donated £x to the community." ****ing them over is just gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Note this shouldn’t stop us from being able to sign him, these things happen a lot and end up in tribunals. If we do sign him, I believe it shows we are more than confident that it’ll be for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, PapaShango said: I'm sure Hearts have been told by the player the date he was offered a new contract. If they have messed up and we get him for hee-haw then it's going to be very pleasing indeed! I feel a walk-a-thon coming on, if it's legally challenged. As you say, would be very pleasing indeed! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Wonder how many times it can be posted that Savage has already said at the FOH event that Simms wages are on another planet to what Hearts could afford. It doesn’t matter whether Everton will accept £1.6m, £1m with add ons or a swap deal with Ross Stewart. We can’t afford anywhere near his wages. He won’t be a perm signing for us. His agent clearly got him a great deal at Everton and fair play to him, if a perm move is on the cards, there are Championship teams who pay stupid money for strikers. Mitrovic was on £60k per week at Fulham and wasn’t the top paid player in the division!! An Everton in the Championship under FFP investigation and financing a new stadium may have been easier to negotiate with but not Simms' wages. If he wants to come for another loan period then good but any perm deal will be elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Why would signing a player for millions equate to a dark day..... And when did they days first appear for them to return! The money we were loaned by the SMG after the Scottish cup win. We ended in massive debt which took administration and almost liquidation to clear. Let’s not go there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May one-six Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Wonder how many times it can be posted that Savage has already said at the FOH event that Simms wages are on another planet to what Hearts could afford. It doesn’t matter whether Everton will accept £1.6m, £1m with add ons or a swap deal with Ross Stewart. We can’t afford anywhere near his wages. He won’t be a perm signing for us. His agent clearly got him a great deal at Everton and fair play to him, if a perm move is on the cards, there are Championship teams who pay stupid money for strikers. Mitrovic was on £60k per week at Fulham and wasn’t the top paid player in the division!! I think you're right. We gave Ellis a chance to show what he could do and he took it. Every club is on the lookout for goalscorers and there are teams in the Championship who will be sniffing about him. We won't be able to compete money-wise. The only unique advantage we have is the chance to offer European experience. I doubt that would be enough to sway him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. This should be clear if they did or didn't. No maybes about it. Someone is playing funny buggers and it's not Hearts. Doncaster available for comment about the lowland league but none here. Anyway hopefully they get ****ed over and get no compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Let Them Forget Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I was at the FOH plot ceremony when JS was speaking about it. He said that there is championship clubs interested due to his performances with us but getting ES back will take time as the EPL sides keep there players as squad fillers until later on in the window. He never mentioned the amount of money he was on. He also said that he shows the players the ground, training ground and city while adding why wouldn’t they want to play here. He isn’t interested in players that are here for the money only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_ · 1m Dundee United insist they're due compensation for Neilson. Hearts believe he's available for free. This one might rumble on. Clubs must lodge a new contract offer in writing 14 days before a player's current deal expires in order to protect the training compo. Time for Dundee United to take their medicine this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I suspect we broke the £1m transfer fee under Vlad…..Bednar from Kaunas and Pinilla from Inter Milan/Sporting Lisbon would more than likely have been 7 figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said: The money we were loaned by the SMG after the Scottish cup win. We ended in massive debt which took administration and almost liquidation to clear. Let’s not go there again. Not even remotely the same situation. It was a loan and we already had massive debt. This Is our money. Hopefully we are in a situation were we can pay relatively significant fees if we want to sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, DH1986 said: I suspect we broke the £1m transfer fee under Vlad…..Bednar from Kaunas and Pinilla from Inter Milan/Sporting Lisbon would more than likely have been 7 figures. Aye, cash transactions completed in submarines in international waters don't count tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I would guess every player we sign will be for more than the player was making prior to signing for us. Simms must be on 7000 a week minimum with Everton (guessing) We’e not paying 8000 a week. Not yet. Though it’s coming. No player is coming to us while still under contract with another club to make less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Guess not signing Charles cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leisham38 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Never Let Them Forget said: I was at the FOH plot ceremony when JS was speaking about it. He said that there is championship clubs interested due to his performances with us but getting ES back will take time as the EPL sides keep there players as squad fillers until later on in the window. He never mentioned the amount of money he was on. He also said that he shows the players the ground, training ground and city while adding why wouldn’t they want to play here. He isn’t interested in players that are here for the money only. Just in case this is aimed at discrediting my comment, he may not have mentioned it at the plot ceremony, but at the FOH AGM I can assure you he did talk about the money he was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Newton51 said: Guess not signing Charles cook We'll get him next season when they get relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: We'll get him next season when they get relegated May be a good team I don't know but I do know I've never heard of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Guess not signing Charles cook Not bothered about not signing Cook, he hasn't proved himself consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: Just in case this is aimed at discrediting my comment, he may not have mentioned it at the plot ceremony, but at the FOH AGM I can assure you he did talk about the money he was on. It's just bad luck (and geography) that we happen to share a border with the richest and greediest league(s) in the world. By our very (historical) nature we'll always compare ourselves to English football, when the reality is - we really couldn't be farther apart. Stating the obvious, I know. I always wonder if scouring the Scandic countries would be a more realistic hunting ground... I'm certainly surprised that we don't see more of their players in this country as (and I'm guessing here) there wages etc. must be closer to ours as opposed to England. Maybe we are... but (and I'm not complaining) we seem to be going down the Aussie/Asian route. Just my opinion... certainly not ITK by any stretch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PapaShango Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Sertse said: I'm not fussed about RCC either to be honest, his career is one decent season at Ross County and I was never impressed with him when he played against us. I suspect our management team didn't push too hard for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, PapaShango said: I'm not fussed about RCC either to be honest, his career is one decent season at Ross County and I was never impressed with him when he played against us. I suspect our management team didn't push too hard for him. If at all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Guess not signing Charles cook Probably wanted to move closer to home. Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, I.T.K said: Probably wanted to move closer to home. Good luck to him. He's from England... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, john thomas said: If at all ? Yes exactly, was only being linked on here and in some snippets from news articles. Can't remember seeing any quotes from us looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, AndyNic said: He's from England... A wee joke about Dingwall being far away. Eupen is closer to London etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, I.T.K said: A wee joke about Dingwall being far away. Eupen is closer to London etc. Got you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Was never really that bothered about RCC. Judged him on our last game v RC and he was absolutely shite, so not bothered. I think we've made the right choice in going for Forrest if its been between the two. Glad he didn't go to Hibs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmeikle Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Neilson gives update on Rowles - http://footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/robbie-neilson-provides-hearts-kye-24171997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Rockwell said: May be a good team I don't know but I do know I've never heard of them From German speaking enclave in west Belgium. Bought by Qataris and promoted to 1st Division in 2016. The Saint Mirren of Belgian football. Edited June 8, 2022 by Tasavallan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, DH1986 said: I suspect we broke the £1m transfer fee under Vlad…..Bednar from Kaunas and Pinilla from Inter Milan/Sporting Lisbon would more than likely have been 7 figures. I think Bednar was on loan from Kaunas so I don’t think a fee was paid, not sure where the transfer we got for him from WBA went either. Pinilla was on loan from Sporting but when we signed him he was part owned by us and Inter. All a bit dodgy. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/mauricio-pinilla-signs-new-contract-hearts-2476569 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 14 hours ago, soonbe110 said: Still working on it I believe and could be close. Isn't he a German striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Rockwell said: May be a good team I don't know but I do know I've never heard of them Look a bit diddy but seem to have oil money involved so probably a few quid in it for the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: From German speaking enclave in west Belgium. Bought by Qataris and promoted to 1st Division in 2016. The Saint Mirren of Belgian football. East Belgium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: Not even remotely the same situation. It was a loan and we already had massive debt. This Is our money. Hopefully we are in a situation were we can pay relatively significant fees if we want to sooner rather than later. Half of it was a loan and half was an ‘investment’ iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurek Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Leisham38 said: Wonder how many times it can be posted that Savage has already said at the FOH event that Simms wages are on another planet to what Hearts could afford. It doesn’t matter whether Everton will accept £1.6m, £1m with add ons or a swap deal with Ross Stewart. We can’t afford anywhere near his wages. He won’t be a perm signing for us. His agent clearly got him a great deal at Everton and fair play to him, if a perm move is on the cards, there are Championship teams who pay stupid money for strikers. Mitrovic was on £60k per week at Fulham and wasn’t the top paid player in the division!! A swap deal with Ross Stewart for Simms? That's the sort of creative thinking I like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jurek said: A swap deal with Ross Stewart for Simms? That's the sort of creative thinking I like! Worth pointing out that as a goal keeper Ross Stewart has never conceded a single goal in either the World Cup or the Champions League. And he managed to only concede four goals during the whole of this season for us. We'd be getting ripped off with that deal imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurek Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Very good. You ought to go into politics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I think Bednar was on loan from Kaunas so I don’t think a fee was paid, not sure where the transfer we got for him from WBA went either. Pinilla was on loan from Sporting but when we signed him he was part owned by us and Inter. All a bit dodgy. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/mauricio-pinilla-signs-new-contract-hearts-2476569 Bednar was on loan initially from Kaunas but we signed him on a permanent deal for an undisclosed fee. Pinilla was also an undisclosed fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Newton51 said: Guess not signing Charles cook Happy enough with that to be honest. Did well to be fair and his "Big 3" line was fun, but I think basically he fit what Malky McKay was doing and popped a few goals in. Not sure he was right for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 RCC will be on a fortune there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Reddington Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 We also paid a fee for Rudi first time around. He was on loan from a Greek side not from Kaunas. Vlad bought and sold him to Southampton the same day. Unsure of the fee paid. I think we got 1.5 mil for him is it possible that vlad paid 1 mil for Rudi? Would still have made a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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