Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: The players are a talented lot, the board is ok, the stadium is great, the training facilities are great, the ticket office staff are great, the shop staff are great, the hospitality is superb and the staff are great, the scouting has been exceptional. Now the most important job in the club is the first team manager, if that person isn’t up to the job it affects the players, the club finances like hospitality, crowds, shop, future signings, etc. All we need now is a manager that is good enough to take Hearts to where it belongs and that is competing for the Cups & League playing Attacking football no matter who we play against or where in Scotland. So yes I have a positive word to say about many things connected with Hearts and my main wish is Hearts supporters leaving games happy that their team has won and scored a few goals and excited about our next game. 100% JAMBO That was his opinion on you mate, funny i wonder who was managing Hearts at the time 🤔🙄. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Drumjambo said: Hes no won a game yet 0-9 - I'm guessing its defending or possibly he's signed the hologram???? Had a full pre season as well I thought that was all he needed to transform a squad into Liverpool ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 2 hours ago, been here before said: Everydays a school day. So he's moaning people are disrespecting him but calling folk alcoholics and inferring they beat women? Id like to think Bingo has had better days in his life than today but I fear Id be disappointed. No 🤔looks like it went over you tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been here before Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: No 🤔looks like it went over you tbh. So explain... Infact dont. Im not sure anyone could take anymore of you making such a fool of yourself. Edited September 22 by been here before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 His style reminded me of being 12 and making a formation on FIFA with one defender and everyone else in attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Des Lynam Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I thought Peter Pan was someone that hasn’t grown up but now he’s an alcoholic wife beater as well. #prayforpeterswife Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been here before Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, Des Lynam said: I thought Peter Pan was someone that hasn’t grown up but now he’s an alcoholic wife beater as well. #prayforpeterswife He gets like that tooting the bingo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 4 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: I find it incredibly really that the likes of Smith's right boot and others like been here before, who backed Levein to the death even though we had 3 years of him underperforming, and essentially crediting our downfall as a club, want to pin the blame on a German who was with our club for 3 months, they also have jumped in with two feet about his time at As Nancy not really knowing what the situation is, should they be bottom, Nope, but did they know they had lost players, nope again posters opening there mouths and let there arse talk, The players they lost is like us losing Beni, Souttar, Woodburn. Or Naismith, Haring and Souttar, like Levein did. Or Neilson losing Sow on the eve of an important derby cup tie. It certainly is hard for any manager to win games without your best players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 4 minutes ago, been here before said: So explain... **** thisll be good. a youthful, boyish, or immature man. Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers. Word origin. C20: after the main character in Peter Pan (1904), a play by J. M. Barrie 🤔 Did i really just have to explain that 🙄. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said: Or Naismith, Haring and Souttar, like Levein did. Or Neilson losing Sow on the eve of an important derby cup tie. It certainly is hard for any manager to win games without your best players. For 2 years yeah? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 18 hours ago, Beni said: Levein played Pereira in every game after he signed him, except for one when he was injured. The rotating you mention didn't happen. It was you who brought Levein into the discussion, and you're using Pereira as a stick to beat Stendel with, when he didn't sign him or play him as often as Levein. Darn tootin'. The worst and most damaging individual mistake I've ever seen any Hearts manager make was Stendel sticking with that goalie too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: For 2 years yeah? Pretty much 1 and a half seasons yeah, that was only about a third of the key players out for extended periods as well - many out at the same time. But you obviously know this because we all watched the games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been here before Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: a youthful, boyish, or immature man. Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers. Word origin. C20: after the main character in Peter Pan (1904), a play by J. M. Barrie 🤔 Did i really just have to explain that 🙄. No, no you didnt because in all your excitement you didnt read my edit. Edited September 22 by been here before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 8 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: I thought Peter Pan was someone that hasn’t grown up but now he’s an alcoholic wife beater as well. #prayforpeterswife Kids these days stealing our innocent words and phrases eh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: a youthful, boyish, or immature man. Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers. Word origin. C20: after the main character in Peter Pan (1904), a play by J. M. Barrie 🤔 Did i really just have to explain that 🙄. Na sorry dude thats not the only definition of “Peter Pan” you cant claim “Bingo” is insulting as a slang phrase then use “Peter Pan” but say its only meant in the Collins English Dictionary definition. moving the goalposts is not right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Peter's Pan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 11 minutes ago, been here before said: He gets like that tooting the bingo. Ffs 🤣🤣🤣 this thread is Mental As Anything , i love jkb sometimes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been here before Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, sadj said: Ffs 🤣🤣🤣 this thread is Mental As Anything , i love jkb sometimes Live it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stendelnator Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 5 minutes ago, sadj said: Kids these days stealing our innocent words and phrases eh! You’ve been snorting too much bingo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 4 minutes ago, sadj said: Na sorry dude thats not the only definition of “Peter Pan” you cant claim “Bingo” is insulting as a slang phrase then use “Peter Pan” but say its only meant in the Collins English Dictionary definition. moving the goalposts is not right Okay boss 👍. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BigAlim said: His style reminded me of being 12 and making a formation on FIFA with one defender and everyone else in attack. It was all very Jimmy Calderwood at Killie, especially playing with 5 forwards when chasing a game in the last 15 mins Edited September 22 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 15 minutes ago, BigAlim said: His style reminded me of being 12 and making a formation on FIFA with one defender and everyone else in attack. Yeah , it kinda does , set everyone to stay forward and hope the goalie keeps them out. I liked his thought process and I enjoyed watching us going forward but it was not the right thing to do. I could even understand keeping JP in goals as his system more needed a sweeper keeper. But points were needed , get them on the board then start to implement your style and push forward. Sadly he didnt do that. All the whataboutery of Levein or Cathro etc is irrelevant , Cathro and Stendel had similar approaches for the most part and neglected basics that cost us games Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 21 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: I thought Peter Pan was someone that hasn’t grown up but now he’s an alcoholic wife beater as well. #prayforpeterswife Spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 4 minutes ago, been here before said: Live it up. Love that song , ever googled the band members? The two guitarists on the left of stage in that vid are brothers. They aged aswell as my gran did when started the bingo. 2 minutes ago, Stendelnator said: You’ve been snorting too much bingo The closest I get is sniffing the markers at the bingo…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Panzee Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 6 hours ago, Spitonastranger said: oops i apologise i have just read my original post back and you are right, i meant to quote the guy saying about relagation and make the point that we were demoted, my bad 😆 No worries mate - as I said - no biggie 😃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators JKBMod 3 Posted September 22 Moderators Share Posted September 22 Can we stick to discussing Daniel please? There’s probably a Peter Pan thread in the Shed already. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 42 minutes ago, Brown Stuff 74 said: Right man, wrong time. Maybe. His record for us and his current team suggests otherwise though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 29 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Pretty much 1 and a half seasons yeah, that was only about a third of the key players out for extended periods as well - many out at the same time. But you obviously know this because we all watched the games. I do i also know players careers were risked, playing while not being fully fit and playing through injuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbies Tackle Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: I do i also know players careers were risked, playing while not being fully fit and playing through injuries. The signed shite on the way down to replace injured players. Levein was a complete disaster for HMFC yet still have a few apologists for the [email protected] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: The signed shite on the way down to replace injured players. Levein was a complete disaster for HMFC yet still have a few apologists for the [email protected] I think the appropriate way of saying it, is Levein had 2 and a half years, compared to Stendels 3 months, the fact I've got too explain that to some really worries me tbh, but each to their own opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbies Tackle Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: I think the appropriate way of saying it, is Levein had 2 and a half years, compared to Stendels 3 months, the fact I've got too explain that to some really worries me tbh, but each to their own opinion. Aye, it's ludicrous to say Stendel even had a fraction of the support Levein got. He was even kicking about in the background being paid when DS was trying and told to wait to get his own background team in. Talk about Comedy central. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, Robbies Tackle said: Aye, it's ludicrous to say Stendel even had a fraction of the support Levein got. He was even kicking about in the background being paid when DS was trying and told to wait to get his own background team in. Talk about Comedy central. Budget was gone mate, Stendels fault for that though, Stendels fault that Robbie has been left with Boyce 🙂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spitonastranger Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 27 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: No worries mate - as I said - no biggie 😃 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Auldbenches Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 12 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: The signed shite on the way down to replace injured players. Levein was a complete disaster for HMFC yet still have a few apologists for the [email protected] I despise what he done in his second spell. Never knew what he was doing and Budge admitted that when she called him haphazard. He also admitted it after a game. Actually said. 'I don't know what to do!' Should've been sacked on the spot there and then for saying that. Stendel got us bottom and that lead to us being demoted, but the main culprit was levein. Amazed at his apologists on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbies Tackle Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, Auldbenches said: I despise what he done in his second spell. Never knew what he was doing and Budge admitted that when she called him haphazard. He also admitted it after a game. Actually said. 'I don't know what to do!' Should've been sacked on the spot there and then for saying that. Stendel got us bottom and that lead to us being demoted, but the main culprit was levein. Amazed at his apologists on here I'm in 100% in agreement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I'm always surprised at how much Neilson is despised by some based on the complete lack of consistency or efficiency of anything else in the last 15 years. Bob is far from perfect but still miles in front of his fellow Hearts managers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: I'm always surprised at how much Neilson is despised by some based on the complete lack of consistency or efficiency of anything else in the last 15 years. Bob is far from perfect but still miles in front of his fellow Hearts managers The stats speak for themselves 👍🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VALDOS' Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 When I see a Daniel Stendel thread, I get an image of Ian Cathro in my head....strange Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregzy2k7 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Are we just gonna have Daniel Stendel threads for the next 10 years debating how shite or no shite he was? He's gone. And it's for the best imo please let's move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Jambo Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 You can believe that in 2019-20 season both Levein and Stendel were utter failures. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. People should try it, it makes life pretty simple. Once you take that position it is then possible to be on a thread about Stendel and just post about Stendel. Personally, I don't wish him any ill will. But to use an appropriately German term, I find it hard not to experience a bit of schadenfreude that those posters who slated people like me who pointed out that his managerial record was actually pretty thin before we appointed him and then abused people like me when we suggested he should be sacked at the point it had become clear that his management of Hearts was an utter car crash and was putting us at very real risk of relegation, now find their football judgement so clealy shown up as Stendel has his 5th car crash season in 6 seasons of management. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jock _turd Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I cannot believe that this man is still being discussed given that he took us to a position that made it easy to have us disposed of to the championship. It would appear this guy, and yes he may be a very nice guy, has had one season where he got some good results and things went well. Since then it has been an absolute shit show from him and the teams he has fielded . There cannot be any dispute about this at all he is not a manager ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbies Tackle Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 7 minutes ago, jock _turd said: I cannot believe that this man is still being discussed given that he took us to a position that made it easy to have us disposed of to the championship. It would appear this guy, and yes he may be a very nice guy, has had one season where he got some good results and things went well. Since then it has been an absolute shit show from him and the teams he has fielded . There cannot be any dispute about this at all he is not a manager ! Aye because he knew covid was coming right enough. The club failed to be reactive to Levein or nothing situation. When he was punted they wanted MacPhee to get the role, he failed, then took ages to appoint someone, fannied about with his background team and failed to back him relatively in Jan. The whole process took us down as well as a pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 40 minutes ago, gregzy2k7 said: Are we just gonna have Daniel Stendel threads for the next 10 years debating how shite or no shite he was? He's gone. And it's for the best imo please let's move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: You can believe that in 2019-20 season both Levein and Stendel were utter failures. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. People should try it, it makes life pretty simple. Once you take that position it is then possible to be on a thread about Stendel and just post about Stendel. Personally, I don't wish him any ill will. But to use an appropriately German term, I find it hard not to experience a bit of schadenfreude that those posters who slated people like me who pointed out that his managerial record was actually pretty thin before we appointed him and then abused people like me when we suggested he should be sacked at the point it had become clear that his management of Hearts was an utter car crash and was putting us at very real risk of relegation, now find their football judgement so clealy shown up as Stendel has his 5th car crash season in 6 seasons of management. Shame you didn't use that knowledge, when Barnsley appointed him 🤔. What was you're thoughts on Neilson when we got beat by Brora? Edited September 22 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 55 minutes ago, jock _turd said: I cannot believe that this man is still being discussed given that he took us to a position that made it easy to have us disposed of to the championship. It would appear this guy, and yes he may be a very nice guy, has had one season where he got some good results and things went well. Since then it has been an absolute shit show from him and the teams he has fielded . There cannot be any dispute about this at all he is not a manager ! But Robbie is haha 😂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Alex Kintner said: The stats speak for themselves 👍🏻 So do the cup wins 👍. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: I'm always surprised at how much Neilson is despised by some based on the complete lack of consistency or efficiency of anything else in the last 15 years. Bob is far from perfect but still miles in front of his fellow Hearts managers Really i don't know how tbh 🤔. You're basing these stats on him in the past, let's see how those stats do this season and then be the judge 👍. No doubt if he doesn't finish above Aberdeen or Hibs some will say it's fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 59 minutes ago, jock _turd said: I cannot believe that this man is still being discussed given that he took us to a position that made it easy to have us disposed of to the championship. It would appear this guy, and yes he may be a very nice guy, has had one season where he got some good results and things went well. Since then it has been an absolute shit show from him and the teams he has fielded . There cannot be any dispute about this at all he is not a manager ! 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: You can believe that in 2019-20 season both Levein and Stendel were utter failures. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. People should try it, it makes life pretty simple. Once you take that position it is then possible to be on a thread about Stendel and just post about Stendel. Personally, I don't wish him any ill will. But to use an appropriately German term, I find it hard not to experience a bit of schadenfreude that those posters who slated people like me who pointed out that his managerial record was actually pretty thin before we appointed him and then abused people like me when we suggested he should be sacked at the point it had become clear that his management of Hearts was an utter car crash and was putting us at very real risk of relegation, now find their football judgement so clealy shown up as Stendel has his 5th car crash season in 6 seasons of management. I find this utterly ironic, considering some had the same opinion of Neilson, when we got put out of Europe. Does that mean that you're football judgement was shown up. I mean despite having the biggest budget in the league it took Neilson two attempts to get Dundee Utd promoted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: You can believe that in 2019-20 season both Levein and Stendel were utter failures. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. People should try it, it makes life pretty simple. Once you take that position it is then possible to be on a thread about Stendel and just post about Stendel. Personally, I don't wish him any ill will. But to use an appropriately German term, I find it hard not to experience a bit of schadenfreude that those posters who slated people like me who pointed out that his managerial record was actually pretty thin before we appointed him and then abused people like me when we suggested he should be sacked at the point it had become clear that his management of Hearts was an utter car crash and was putting us at very real risk of relegation, now find their football judgement so clealy shown up as Stendel has his 5th car crash season in 6 seasons of management. One decent season out of six really is a shocking record. Especially when the other five have been so terrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bongo 1874 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said: One decent season out of six really is a shocking record. Especially when the other five have been so terrible. Getting put out the Scottish by Brora is shocking getting put out the league cup by alloa is equally shocking, getting put out the cup by Hibs when leading by 2 goals -0 only for them to go on and win it resulting in them being the last Edinburgh team to win the Scottish Cup 🤔 getting put out of Europe by minnows is shocking, but are board accepts shocking. Well if you are Robbie that is 😁. Edited September 22 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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