Daniel Stendel

[CloustonHMFC]

14 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

All i try to do is give an unbiased opinion of every club he's been at, at Barnsley first season he was great, you have seen Barnsley supporters come on here and say that, second season they came on and said he had his team ripped apart and the transfer committee replaced them with young prospect players, this is a philosophy of chien lee at every club he owns they all play the same way, and recruit  scout the same way, moneyball approach, 

 

 

Now before the championship season started stendel went to the board, and said can i have 2-3 experienced players for this league, as it's totally different to English league 1,the board refused this as they have an age signing policy, 

 

 

You will also see at his time at Nancy he lost 4 of the team's best players, and they have been replaced by loan signings from affiliated clubs of chien lee, they also have to play youth. 

 

I just feel when you consider these circumstances, you have to give him time and a chance to get it right. 

 

Robbie or Levein never had those circumstances ever, infact we turned down a bid for Souttar recently, if that had been the Barnsley or chien lee club they would've accepted it right away. 

 

Chien lee tried to buy Hearts last summer Ann refused, his plans were to bring stendel in if the bid was successful👍. 

 

Again I've watched there games this season and they aren't a bad team, they lack a cutting edge in attack. 

 

But they are also playing youth players in a tough league, 3 academy players have made there league debuts this season, 

 

1 ⃣ Axel Guessand 16 years and 295 days on 08/28/21 5 ⃣ Warren Bondo 17 years and 312 days old on 07/24/21 1 ⃣ 0 ⃣ Lamine Cissé 18 years and 159 days on 07/24/21

 

Again why anyone would take pleasure in a manager / coach in failing, when the guy who was an unknown to the club was prepared to waive his full wage during are struggling times, you really have to question the mindset and mentality of some on here, while club legends and other staff took a wage out the club. 

I'm sorry mate but your views on Stendel and his time any club are everything but unbiased. You're infatuated with the guy. Maybe if you'd just admit that his time at Hearts was an abject failure you wouldn't get it so rough for trying to defend him but you just won't admit it. Instead you throw x y z excuses around for everywhere he's been.

 

Good guy, wish him well but time to forget about him and move forward. The changes at the club in the last 18 months are huge and every one of them for better.

[Bongo 1874]

I find it incredibly really that the likes of Smith's right boot and others like been here before, who backed Levein to the death even though we had 3 years of him underperforming, and essentially crediting our downfall as a club, want to pin the blame on a German who was with our club for 3 months, they also have jumped in with two feet about his time at As Nancy not really knowing what the situation is, should they be bottom, Nope, but did they know they had lost players, nope again posters opening there mouths and let there arse talk, 

 

The players they lost is like us losing Beni, Souttar, Woodburn. 

[Bongo 1874]

5 minutes ago, Stendelnator said:

Bozanic literally scored a 25 yard free kick under Levein in his first start?

What game was that sorry are you sure it wasn't Garrucio? 

[Stendelnator]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

What game was that sorry are you sure it wasn't Garrucio? 

Yes Bingo. I am sure. When trying to make an argument at least try to have at least one part of it be accurate. 

[Bongo 1874]

2 minutes ago, Stendelnator said:

Yes Bingo. I am sure. When trying to make an argument at least try to have at least one part of it be accurate. 

Because his first league game was against Celtic off the bench and he played 90 mins against cove rangers away in the league cup, but he didn't score in any of them? 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Bongo 1874

[Alex Kintner]

17 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

I wouldn't give full credit to Stendel for the goal against Hibs, what i would say bozanic never showed that sort of ability during Craig's time would that be fair? Maybe that was to do with stendel having a more attacking approach? 

 

9 minutes ago, Stendelnator said:

Bozanic literally scored a 25 yard free kick under Levein in his first start?

[CloustonHMFC]

2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Because his first league game was against Celtic off the bench and he played 90 mins against cove rangers away in the league cup, but he didn't score in any of them? 

The game he's on about is Dundee away, 3-0 win in October. I couldn't tell you how many times he played before it though. 

[A_A wehatethehibs]

22 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

No, no its not as bad as that. They're currently bottom having played 9, win nothing, drawn three and lost 6 having shipped 18 goals in the process. They have scored 5 though so thats good.

 

The important thing to remember though is that none of it is Daniels fault. Its all to do with the owner and the players and Im sure the sun was in someones eyes at some point. Its also got something to do with him not being Robbie Neilson or Craig Levein.

The guy needs to play a few games of Subbuteo to learn how to set teams up 

[Bongo 1874]

14 minutes ago, CloustonHMFC said:

I'm sorry mate but your views on Stendel and his time any club are everything but unbiased. You're infatuated with the guy. Maybe if you'd just admit that his time at Hearts was an abject failure you wouldn't get it so rough for trying to defend him but you just won't admit it. Instead you throw x y z excuses around for everywhere he's been.

 

Good guy, wish him well but time to forget about him and move forward. The changes at the club in the last 18 months are huge and every one of them for better.

In you're opinion mate. 

[Bongo 1874]

14 minutes ago, Barack said:

 

I dunno, Bongo. Maybe folk can breakdown who he scored these under, mate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great goals btw, some under Levein too 👍. 

 

 

[Stendelnator]

7 minutes ago, CloustonHMFC said:

The game he's on about is Dundee away, 3-0 win in October. I couldn't tell you how many times he played before it though. 

Nah mate it’s cool I’ve lost the argument. He never scored any great goals under Levein because I didn’t specify that it was his first league start. 

[Bazzas right boot]

24 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

I wouldn't give full credit to Stendel for the goal against Hibs, what i would say bozanic never showed that sort of ability during Craig's time would that be fair? Maybe that was to do with stendel having a more attacking approach? 

 

 

If that's your take on that goal, fair enough. 

 

You'll be praising Bob for training big Oz next in the shooting dept, and he was a defender!

 

How attacking is that - training defenders to hit 40 yard cannons. 

 

Even trained him to do it in the last minute and to equalise for full enjoyment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bazzas right boot]

8 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

The guy needs to play a few games of Subbuteo to learn how to set teams up 

 

Maybe he does and that's what he thinks goalkeeping looks like. 

 

 

[Bongo 1874]

3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

If that's your take on that goal, fair enough. 

 

You'll be praising Bob for training big Oz next in the shooting dept, and he was a defender!

 

How attacking is that - training defenders to hit 40 yard cannons. 

 

Even trained him to do it in the last minute and to equalise for full enjoyment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who saying that? I'm saying, maybe having a more attacking approach gave him the opportunity to have that shot against Hibs, at Easter Road? 

 

In the championship season with ozturk no problem 👍. 

 

Can you tell me what happened between Bob and his captain Ozturk the following season? 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Bongo 1874

[Bazzas right boot]

19 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

I find it incredibly really that the likes of Smith's right boot and others like been here before, who backed Levein to the death even though we had 3 years of him underperforming, and essentially crediting our downfall as a club, want to pin the blame on a German who was with our club for 3 months, they also have jumped in with two feet about his time at As Nancy not really knowing what the situation is, should they be bottom, Nope, but did they know they had lost players, nope again posters opening there mouths and let there arse talk, 

 

The players they lost is like us losing Beni, Souttar, Woodburn. 

 

 

Or like CL losing a mix of Djoum, Naismith, Berra, Souttar through to injury for long spells and seeing the form of the team drop. 

 

 

 

 

[Bongo 1874]

5 minutes ago, Stendelnator said:

Nah mate it’s cool I’ve lost the argument. He never scored any great goals under Levein because I didn’t specify that it was his first league start. 

No you said his first start under Levein, who's saying you lost the argument it's not a competition 😂😂 but i would appreciate if you didn't try to insult me and call me Bongo, instead of bingo I'm sure the mods will pick up on that though 👍. 

[Alex Kintner]

11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

 

 

 

Six forum rules broken in one post. Disappointing. 😔

 

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[Bongo 1874]

2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Or like CL losing a mix of Djoum, Naismith, Berra, Souttar through to injury for long spells and seeing the form of the team drop. 

 

 

 

 

So he's allowed to have injures and problems seems about right 🤔. 

 

Tell me how many years did he get? 

[Bazzas right boot]

2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Who saying that? I'm saying, maybe having a more attacking approach gave him the opportunity to have that shot against Hibs, at Easter Road? 

 

In the championship season with ozturk no problem 👍. 

 

Can you tell me what happened between Bob and his captain Ozturk the following season? 

 

 

I was actually mocking your thought process. 

 

It's ridiculous, but also fascinating how you cone to these conclusions. 

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said:

Six forum rules broken in one post. Disappointing. 😔

 

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That after he called me bingo? 

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

I was actually mocking your thought process. 

 

It's ridiculous, but also fascinating how you cone to these conclusions. 

Can you tell me what happened between Bob and ozturk the following seasons, it's a simple question? 

[sadj]

38 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

In no way am i saying he shouldn't of won games at us or Nancy, he needs to be doing better, very much a must win for him on Friday at home 👍. 

 

 

Shouldn’t have ffs , 😒

[Bazzas right boot]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

So he's allowed to have injures and problems seems about right 🤔. 

 

Tell me how many years did he get? 

 

 

No manager needs years to keep Hearts 10th (or even 11th) in the division. 

He failed. 

 

Would he have been good long term- maybe. 

 

Have most moved on- yes. 

[Bongo 1874]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

Shouldn’t have ffs , 😒

Spot on 👍. 

 

I Can admit my mistakes 😉. 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Bongo 1874

[Bongo 1874]

6 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

Six forum rules broken in one post. Disappointing. 😔

 

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Do you like being accused of taking drugs? , this is also an offence so I'm sure you will report that too. 

[Bazzas right boot]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Can you tell me what happened between Bob and ozturk the following seasons, it's a simple question? 

 

 

No idea. 

 

Oz just had a dig, it went in. 

 

Sometimes midfielders have a dig, sometimes they go in. 

Midfielders are generally better at shooting than defenders and have more opportunities to shoot. 

 

Bozanic had a decent dig, as did Lee. 

 

Don't think Stendel developed Bozanic that much, you obviously do and think that's a valid point to argue about him. 

 

Carry on. 

It is fascinating. 

[Bongo 1874]

Just now, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

No idea. 

 

Oz just had a dig, it went in. 

 

Sometimes midfielders have a dig, sometimes they go in. 

Midfielders are generally better at shooting than defenders and have more opportunities to shoot. 

 

Bozanic had a decent dig, as did Lee. 

 

Don't think Stendel developed Bozanic that much, you obviously do and think that's a valid point to argue about him. 

 

Carry on. 

It is fascinating. 

Again it's a simple question what happened between Oz and Bob the following season? 

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, Bongo 1874 said:

Again it's a simple question what happened between Oz and Bob the following season? 

 

It was also a simple answer. 

Right at the top. 

 

I've no idea 

 

[Bongo 1874]

3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

No idea. 

 

Oz just had a dig, it went in. 

 

Sometimes midfielders have a dig, sometimes they go in. 

Midfielders are generally better at shooting than defenders and have more opportunities to shoot. 

 

Bozanic had a decent dig, as did Lee. 

 

Don't think Stendel developed Bozanic that much, you obviously do and think that's a valid point to argue about him. 

 

Carry on. 

It is fascinating. 

I think he improved certain players in the team, that's my opinion Sean Clare being the obvious one. 

[Bongo 1874]

2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

It was also a simple answer. 

Right at the top. 

 

I've no idea 

 

Right...... 

[sadj]

4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Spot on 👍. 

 

I Can admit my mistakes 😉. 

Really dont think you can but ok.

 

Why do you have such a major dislike of Ann , Robbie , Levein etc but not Stendel who dragged us down even lower by being unable to piss with the stick he had and the players he brought in that he wanted and instead kept trying to push forward with a Plan A that we couldnt do and having no Plan B?

[Bongo 1874]

8 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

No manager needs years to keep Hearts 10th (or even 11th) in the division. 

He failed. 

 

Would he have been good long term- maybe. 

 

Have most moved on- yes. 

It's fine both Bob and Levein would've kept us up, let's move on 👍. 

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, Bongo 1874 said:

I think he improved certain players in the team, that's my opinion Sean Clare being the obvious one. 

 

 

Clare continued his improvement from under CL when Stendel joined 

 

He was still poor tho. 

 

Probably suited Clare just to play with no tactical or positional awareness and don't worry about defending. 

 

[been here before]

18 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

I find it incredibly really that the likes of Smith's right boot and others like been here before, who backed Levein to the death 

 

 

Like pretty much everything else you've posted either on this thread or elsewhere, that is absolute, 24 carat, weapons grade utter horseshit. You're so desperate you are quite literally making things up.

 

Show me one post, just one post, where I backed Levein "to the death" or otherwise.

 

Go on...

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, sadj said:

Really dont think you can but ok.

 

Why do you have such a major dislike of Ann , Robbie , Levein etc but not Stendel who dragged us down even lower by being unable to piss with the stick he had and the players he brought in that he wanted and instead kept trying to push forward with a Plan A that we couldnt do and having no Plan B?

Robbie left for Mk dons, if you think that's bettering his career fair play, Robbie is made out the messiah on here, at away games he wasn't, I don't dislike Ann, dislike is a strong word to use, I don't dislike Robbie or Craig either, but what you have to understand is Robbie has learned from who? 

 

 

So it's only natural he picks up habits and tendencies of Craig. 

 

He's doing a good job just now no complaints from me. 

[Bazzas right boot]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

It's fine both Bob and Levein would've kept us up, let's move on 👍. 

 

I think Stendel would have kept us up as  well if the season played out. 

 

But it never, and he made a poor Hearts team worse, that much worse it was 4 adrift at the bottom. 

Absolute failure in that regard, unfortunately. 

[A_A wehatethehibs]

Heard Bozanic is playing well down in the beachball league, full credit to his former manager 

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

I think Stendel would have kept us up as  well if the season played out. 

 

But it never, and he made a poor Hearts team worse, that much worse it was 4 adrift at the bottom. 

Absolute failure in that regard, unfortunately. 

Shame he didn't get the chance. 

[Bongo 1874]

7 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

 

Like pretty much everything else you've posted either on this thread or elsewhere, that is absolute, 24 carat, weapons grade utter horseshit. You're so desperate you are quite literally making things up.

 

Show me one post, just one post, where I backed Levein "to the death" or otherwise.

 

Go on...

Don't need too it's clear for everyone to see the straw is most definitely out. 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Bongo 1874

[Alex Kintner]

11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Spot on 👍. 

 

I Can admit my mistakes 😉. 

Can you admit you made a mistake by posting a video that breaks the first six rules of the forum? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Alex Kintner]

6 minutes ago, sadj said:

Really dont think you can but ok.

 

Why do you have such a major dislike of Ann , Robbie , Levein etc but not Stendel who dragged us down even lower by being unable to piss with the stick he had and the players he brought in that he wanted and instead kept trying to push forward with a Plan A that we couldnt do and having no Plan B?

Stendel gets a lot more slack from some fans because he was a likeable character. He almost had a cult-like status due to his off the field persona: “It’s your Daniel here” etc

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said:

Can you admit you made a mistake by posting a video that breaks the first six rules of the forum? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes, but if you think I will tolerate being called bingo, which is a nickname used as a form of drug then that's not on 👍. 

 

I'm happy to have a debate but won't be degraded in any manner, and i deserve the right to defend myself 👍. 

 

Nice to see you trying but, sad sad person. 

[Alex Kintner]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Yes, but if you think I will tolerate being called bingo, which is a nickname used as a form of drug then that's not on 👍. 

 

I'm happy to have a debate but won't be degraded in any manner, and i deserve the right to defend myself 👍. 

 

Nice to see you trying but, sad sad person. 

Just had my eyes opened up. My gran was forever telling me how much she loved the bingo! 😮

[been here before]

2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Don't need to it's clear for everyone to see this straw is most definitely out. 

 

I have no idea what that means.

 

Im presuming its you in some way back tracking that I  backed Levein at all let alone "to the death".

 

Go on just one post to prove you're not a total slavering wreck- find one and post it of me backing Levein.

 

Should be easy for you.

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said:

Just had my eyes opened up. My gran was forever telling me how much she loved the bingo! 😮

Yeah it has many names again deflect. 

[Bazzas right boot]

4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Yes, but if you think I will tolerate being called bingo, which is a nickname used as a form of drug then that's not on 👍. 

 

I'm happy to have a debate but won't be degraded in any manner, and i deserve the right to defend myself 👍. 

 

Nice to see you trying but, sad sad person. 

 

 

Bingo is a game. 

Rhymes with Bongo as well. 

 

 

[Alex Kintner]

1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Yeah it has many names again deflect. 

My gran always just called it the bingo. Now that I think about it she was always going on about managing to get a line. Seems obvious now I look back. 

[been here before]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Bingo is a game. 

Rhymes with Bongo as well. 

 

 

 

The i is also right next to the o on a keyboard. Could be fat fingers.

 

Most likely the drugs thing though.

 

Im waiting for the ice cream van coming round. Does good tenner bags of bongo.

[A_A wehatethehibs]

why is everyone having a go at @Bingo1874 he’s not even posted in the thread  

[Alex Kintner]

4 minutes ago, Barack said:

Alex's grannie's oan the Charlie!

 

"Hoose! ****ing hoose!"

 

"Sit doon, Agnes. He's no even called a nummer yit, ya daft cow!"

It’s awful. The memories I have of my sweet old gran have been ruined. Turns out she was secretly off doing drugs every night. 

 

 

 

 

Does explain some of the cardigans she knitted though. 🤔