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17 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Having sampled the crap expensive beer they sell in English stadia I’m not interested in having a beer at the actual match. Is it still the case that you can’t have a beer in view of the pitch down South?

Given the proximity of pubs within 2 minutes of the ground, I never understand peoples obsession with wanting to drink watered down lager from a plastic tumbler whilst standing on a freezing cold concourse.

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1 minute ago, Heartsofgold said:

But not in the stadiums and THAT is the problem.  Not the clubs responsibility once they leave the confines of the Ground.

I could give you ten links showing problems they’ve caused in stadiums also, it’s a total myth that they behave I’m afraid. 
Here’s a good one. 
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/welsh-police-rant-about-nightmare-rugby-fans-being-worse-than-football-supporters-42765

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41 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Both of you make good points to which I agree. But we are missing out on a lot of revenue because of the ban, imagine how much money has been lost in the last 40 years by all clubs here. I think it will be something they will look at in this new in depth review. 


agree on the missed revenue, as a slight aside my England ticket for next 6n is 85 quid, roughly a pound a minute. Going for a 5£ pint during the game has an equivalent cost of £15 including missed watching the game time.

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35 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

I'd say generally they are more considerate to each other in and around the ground.

 

I haven't been told to eff off (old man) if someone is in my seat at Murrayfield (no worries when Edinburgh playing) and ask them to go to their own but going to an away Hearts game when away allocation is sold out is another matter.

 

The pubs thing I'm in full agreement with.

Yeah I would say my experience of both games in grounds probably show that too. I just think folk have this idea about them being angels compared to football fans and they’re not. 

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4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I could give you ten links showing problems they’ve caused in stadiums also, it’s a total myth that they behave I’m afraid. 
Here’s a good one. 
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/welsh-police-rant-about-nightmare-rugby-fans-being-worse-than-football-supporters-42765

Fair enough mate, can't argue with that.

 

I would love to be able to enjoy a pint in the ground and give more money to Hearts.

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3 minutes ago, Hesh said:


agree on the missed revenue, as a slight aside my England ticket for next 6n is 85 quid, roughly a pound a minute. Going for a 5£ pint during the game has an equivalent cost of £15 including missed watching the game time.

Alcohol affects everyone’s behaviour, the biggest dicks at the Open are those who sit and watch it on a big screen drinking £5 pints. 
Yes it’s a good point that you are wasting money really, for those who want to though at least you have the option about 500 yards north west as the crow flies. 

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2 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said:

Fair enough mate, can't argue with that.

 

I would love to be able to enjoy a pint in the ground and give more money to Hearts.

I think a lot of folk would, as it’s been said the already frequent trips to the toilets ( you know who you are)would no doubt increase 😱🙈😆
 

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15 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said:

Fair enough mate, can't argue with that.

 

I would love to be able to enjoy a pint in the ground and give more money to Hearts.

I think that we must be the only country in the world where spectators are denied the opportunity to have a drink in the ground. The Scottish government really do need to take a good look at themselves as their attitude is stuck in the dark ages............. Maybe the 17th century.

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Does the 1874 bar demonstrate that selling beer in a club bar before and after matches is a money maker? I’d be surprised if it makes much, if any, profit. 
 

I still think it should have been called ‘The Scarf around the Funnel’. 😄

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20 minutes ago, Libertarian said:

I think that we must be the only country in the world where spectators are denied the opportunity to have a drink in the ground. The Scottish government really do need to take a good look at themselves as their attitude is stuck in the dark ages............. Maybe the 17th century.

Yeah it’s definitely the Scottish governments fault that there’s been a ban on alcohol in Scotland since the 1980s. 
The uglies and their despicable fans are without doubt the main reason why we can’t have a pint in grounds.

 
 

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25 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Does the 1874 bar demonstrate that selling beer in a club bar before and after matches is a money maker? I’d be surprised if it makes much, if any, profit. 
 

I still think it should have been called ‘The Scarf around the Funnel’. 😄

Ask the Chairman at the AGM or check the clubs accounts. 
Are you criticising the club for not making more money 😱😂?

Joking aside they undercut the other local pubs, they will make a huge profit on match days but the rest of the time probably not so much. 

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

Yeah it’s definitely the Scottish governments fault that there’s been a ban on alcohol in Scotland since the 1980s. 
The uglies and their despicable fans are without doubt the main reason why we can’t have a pint in grounds.

 
 

The Scottish Government didn’t exist when the ban was brought in. It probably is time for a review though when supporters misbehave, and it gets picked up by media, it makes that review less likely. I imagine the majority of adults wouldn’t back it, if they had a referendum on it 

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10 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The Scottish Government didn’t exist when the ban was brought in. It probably is time for a review though when supporters misbehave, and it gets picked up by media, it makes that review less likely. I imagine the majority of adults wouldn’t back it, if they had a referendum on it 

That was my point. 
The minority that misbehave shouldn’t really spoil it for the rest though. 
I still wouldn’t sell it to the uglies when they come 😆

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Booze at a sports event is good. AFL and recently cricket were great to have a couple of beers in my seat.

 

Having beers in the stadium is great revenue for clubs even if not allowed at your seat. Encourages people to get there early, buy beer at the ground rather than a pub and in turn buy food and merch etc whilst they are there.

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2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:


well that’s not really true at all. It maybe is now but before the drink ban Scotland held that title..

 

I don’t disagree that you should be able to buy some alcohol but it should be limited in some way

I lived in Surrey in 1980s and visited most London grounds most regularly Chelsea, QPR and Arsenal invariably there was bother.  Any game at that time involving eg Man United, Leeds , Pompey , Millwall, West Ham and Chelsea would be tense, club colours best not worn outside of the ground particularly on the London Underground. Far worse than most Scottish games even in the 1970s   although the bigot brothers are  a possible le exception  to this day.

My view is no drink during match but should be available before and after game possibly half time.

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42 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

That was my point. 
The minority that misbehave shouldn’t really spoil it for the rest though. 
I still wouldn’t sell it to the uglies when they come 😆

I'd still sell it but not in the away end.

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2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Ask anyone who’s worked in a pub in town before or after a game if they behave, a total myth. 

At the game they do - that’s what we are talking about it here.

 

it’s just a fact

 

football fans are in general more aggressive / abusive and more likely to be worse if they can drink at games too 

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4 minutes ago, EIEIO said:

I'd still sell it but not in the away end.

Then the home fans would be more aggressive 

 

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

I could give you ten links showing problems they’ve caused in stadiums also, it’s a total myth that they behave I’m afraid. 
Here’s a good one. 
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/welsh-police-rant-about-nightmare-rugby-fans-being-worse-than-football-supporters-42765

There are maybe some exceptions but you only have to look at photos of groups of football fans and groups of rugby fans.  
rugby fans are seated while half the football fans are gesturing and standing 

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2 hours ago, Taffin said:

Booze at a sports event is good. AFL and recently cricket were great to have a couple of beers in my seat.

 

Having beers in the stadium is great revenue for clubs even if not allowed at your seat. Encourages people to get there early, buy beer at the ground rather than a pub and in turn buy food and merch etc whilst they are there.

The T&Cs on a ticket to the Lord's Test match limits attendees to taking in only one bottle of wine per person - draconian! The Oval let you bring two I think.

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2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

At the game they do - that’s what we are talking about it here.

 

it’s just a fact

 

football fans are in general more aggressive / abusive and more likely to be worse if they can drink at games too 

Is that why you never go to Tynecastle?

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On 14/09/2021 at 18:59, King Of The Cat Cafe said:

 

This photo highlight an urgent need that has a cheap fix:

A row of crush barriers from the turnstiles along the edge of the footpath all the way back to the car park in the top right.

That is the only way to stop the barstewards who walk down that street on the left (can't remember what it's called) and jump in ahead of people who have been queuing all the way along.

In that picture can't see anyone trying to jump in and the queue is already massive!

 

Needs to be more than one queue for 10 turnstiles, someone else suggested another queue going up Wheatfield St....as well as the one going along Wheatfield place and more stewards checking bags etc. 

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2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Meanwhile aberdeen have made some improvements to Cormack park

 

 

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Brilliant! That's a whole new ball-game for POV.

As Archie MacPherson would have said -  "WOOF"

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8 hours ago, Libertarian said:

I think that we must be the only country in the world where spectators are denied the opportunity to have a drink in the ground. The Scottish government really do need to take a good look at themselves as their attitude is stuck in the dark ages............. Maybe the 17th century.

The attitude and behaviour of many football fans is stuck in the dark ages.

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Second floor of the main stand still to be developed so would like to see more hospitality options in place. More money making options over different price ranges

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50 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Second floor of the main stand still to be developed so would like to see more hospitality options in place. More money making options over different price ranges

Heard a whisper its getting kitted out as a 10 pin bowling alley, personally I'd sub let to a major gym. 

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8 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said:

The attitude and behaviour of many football fans is stuck in the dark ages.

And most football fans behave themselves and those that don't simply get tanked up in bars outside the stadium. There are already sanctions in place to deal with individuals who don't behave. 

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12 hours ago, Boris5115 said:

Google it and you will see the correct answer mate. 

Loads of grounds do not meet criteria. Liverpool is a definite and Chelsea have to ask for special dispensation as well.

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1 hour ago, Stu_HMFC said:

Did I dream this or did Hearts say with the development of the new main stand it would have escalators in it? 


 

I used the escalator at Tynecastle on Sunday gaining access to the Legends lounge,  and may I add,  it was working 😁.

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19 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Then the home fans would be more aggressive 

 

There are maybe some exceptions but you only have to look at photos of groups of football fans and groups of rugby fans.  
rugby fans are seated while half the football fans are gesturing and standing 

 

I've a mate who lives near Murrayfield and a kilted Farquhar shat in his garden. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, johnking123 said:

Loads of grounds do not meet criteria. Liverpool is a definite and Chelsea have to ask for special dispensation as well.

Indeed. Spurs had to Get permission for White Hart Lane being used in Europe as it had a very tight pitch before the new stadium was built. 

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1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

I've a mate who lives near Murrayfield and a kilted Farquhar shat in his garden. 

 

 

Eh? One solitary person

what about all the vandalism football fans do?

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Does anyone know if we could expand our ground, and if so what sort of capacity would we be allowed to expand it too. 

 

If this is off topic I'll happily take a pm. 

 

Hopefully someone knows 👍

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14 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Does anyone know if we could expand our ground, and if so what sort of capacity would we be allowed to expand it too. 

 

If this is off topic I'll happily take a pm. 

 

Hopefully someone knows 👍

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30 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Does anyone know if we could expand our ground, and if so what sort of capacity would we be allowed to expand it too. 

 

If this is off topic I'll happily take a pm. 

 

Hopefully someone knows 👍

I don't think the stand would have to be moved back that much either. I'd like to see more improvements within the stadium currently before looking to build another new stand. I'm sure if we wanted to have a bigger capacity we would of looked at building the main stand like Vlads two tier plans we could of still widened the pitch on the Main Stand side there was plenty of space looking at the size off the hospitality and the foundation plaza . 

 

I'd still like to see the inside walls of the stands painted maroon and some murals up and remove the police box. I thought the police box was being removed and it was going to be housed within the main stand below section N a big room was built for the polis.   

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2 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said:

I don't think the stand would have to be moved back that much either. I'd like to see more improvements within the stadium currently before looking to build another new stand. I'm sure if we wanted to have a bigger capacity we would of looked at building the main stand like Vlads two tier plans we could of still widened the pitch on the Main Stand side there was plenty of space looking at the size off the hospitality and the foundation plaza . 

 

I'd still like to see the inside walls of the stands painted maroon and some murals up and remove the police box. I thought the police box was being removed and it was going to be housed within the main stand below section N a big room was built for the polis.   

Tynecastle as a 30 thousand seater stadium, wow i think that has to be the goal tbh, if we aim on getting closer to the old firm. 

 

James if you come on this forum can you make it happen 😉👍

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37 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Eh? One solitary person

what about all the vandalism football fans do?

How many folk do you want to shite in his garden?

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1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Tynecastle as a 30 thousand seater stadium, wow i think that has to be the goal tbh, if we aim on getting closer to the old firm. 

 

James if you come on this forum can you make it happen 😉👍

Can you remember in the Vlad years the plan was new main stand and a new Roseburn I'm sure I seen pictures somewhere once this is going back years ago. 

 

I always had a vision years ago we could of turned the pitch and have the Wheatfield and Main behind the goals building a massive new Roseburn and Main joining them up Playing too much LMA Manager back in the day 😂😂

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