keifrb Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I think the majority of Hearts fans have grown impatient as under Ann Budge's stewardship we have fallen well short of what should be expected on the playing front, her loyalty to Levein and Neilson has been misjudged. The new, behind the scenes infrastructure, is as of yet unproven. We need a few quality players at least for a top six challenge, a left sided centre half and midfielder of the Cameron/Hartley ilk would be my priorities, this is the minimum we should expect and if Joe Savage does not produce his position should be reviewed. I'm hopeful of some quality signings before transfer deadline day, but this close season has been a challenge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BackOfTheNet Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Seriously though, the Scandinavian? What happened / didn’t happen with that then? Was effectively an ITK assurance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: Pretty much where I am with Mueller. I think he is an absolute coup. FWIW, I watch MLS because I work with a lot of Americans, and the company has a partnership with Comcast/NBC and MLS. I watch it so I can participate when they start talking about it in calls and meetings, and have heard of him. Most of those I speak to are Philadelphia Union or NYCFC fans (in Orlando's division). Based on the times I've watched them, I have formed the opinion that Meuller is a very good player and I can say this with absolute certainty and with very gritted teeth, but he is better than GMS and is one of the better wingers in the league. Orlando are title contenders. They're sitting 4th with a game in hand, winning that will put them 2nd. His opposite winger is Nani, and his striker is Pato. They would pump Hearts. Seeing Hibs sign someone of that calibre has genuinely put me on a right downer. If we signed him, we'd be going ****ing mental. Pisses me right off that you have to explain your knowledge of a particular subject though and that people automatically assume you know nothing. I've travelled and worked a lot in the states and Nth America in general and watched a fair bit of MLS although not for a while. My impression is it's still a place where mid career, English League One/Championship, Scottish Premiership outwith the OF, and US and Brazilians, and other Sth and North Americans not good enough for European leagues go to make a bit more money with a nice lifestyle. And fo course a smattering of A-listers approaching retirement. The thing that stood out in almost every game was the lack of competitiveness (partly coming from the lack of passion amongst fas most of whom are there for a nice afternoon out - and to be fair I often enjoyed a very nice afternoon out with a beer and snacks), plus the lack of proper tackling, the naive tactics from C and D list coaches (Stendel style put 5 forwards on the park if you're behind), and the almost universal atrocious defending. Plus truly terrible refereeing. Based on that, I'd be surprised if even someone who seems to have had a decent career over there will adapt to Scottish football very well as it will be so different - much better defenders and better organised defences for a start. Very few players have come across here with only MLS experience and done well. I can't think of any? Perry Kitchen for example looks much better in the MLS than he did for us. So based on that I choose to believe this guy will be shite and we still have a better striker in Boyce than any of HIbs 3 first choices 😄 And GMS will score more goals than this guy. Edited July 22 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LokamotivRobbo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 34 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: 707 posts and each one is a steaming pile of shite ! FTFY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: It’s not mental, it’s predictable - I felt you months ago this would happen. It is impossible, completely impossible for neilson to survive. At best he has fans who tolerate him, there will be relative silence when things are going wel but as soon as anything goes wrong it will be a knife through the back. he’s finished. And I few a bit sorry for him but it’s mainly his own fault. You do not get away with some of the results we had last season ever! At any club of note Leeds Utd didn't sack Biesla after a much worse result than the Brora one in the FA cup - losing 3-0 to league Two Crawley Town. He also lost to League One Hull City in the league cup the same season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1977 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 21 minutes ago, jr ewing said: £1500 basic plus bonuses. If that’s the case we can forget quality over quantity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Just now, Russ1977 said: If that’s the case we can forget quality over quantity Most decent footballers wouldn't get out their bed for that, so I hope that's not true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pointon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I wonder if Joe and the new recruitment team are passed the YouTube stage and on to wyscout Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 27 minutes ago, jr ewing said: £1500 basic plus bonuses. Well, that's not true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gedster Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said: Hope he enjoys playing in the snow in September Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, pointon said: I wonder if Joe and the new recruitment team are passed the YouTube stage and on to wyscout I wonder how many times Jack Ross has seen their new American signing play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Jambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Do I need to pack the whelms away until January? They are just sat here gathering dust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamboinglasgow Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, gedster said: Hope he enjoys playing in the snow in September Weird level he is being sent to, had a look and they are effectively the 8th tier of Scottish football. Though they used to be a junior team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Brown Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, gedster said: Hope he enjoys playing in the snow in September September? Snow coming late this year in Fauldhouse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 10 minutes ago, Russ1977 said: If that’s the case we can forget quality over quantity I would suggest that’s a guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gedster Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Had a couple of seasons in Juniors East Super League a few years ago but not at those heights currently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gedster Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Tommy Brown said: September? Snow coming late this year in Fauldhouse Global warming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batistuta87 Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 42 minutes ago, luckydug said: You mean you would be going mental. 😏 I've never heard of this guy and if he's that good why aren't bigger clubs stumping up the cash to get him now ? I agree with Malinga about some of the posters on here. This place is infested. So because you've not heard of him, makes him pish? Like I say, maybe it's been a connection thing, maybe he's been sold on the stepping stone thing, maybe they're paying him more than they should, who knows. Also... This "infested" chat is chronic. Just because someone thinks Hibs have made a good signing, all of a sudden he's an actual Hibee? Grow up pal! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 8 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Sending the lad to play sunday league football is Hearts basically telling him that he needs to find a trade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramrod Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: If you check back a few hours he was linked with us so that’s the reason he was initially mentioned. He’s went from world beater to useless in 5 hours 😆. Or from being useless to a world beater in 5 hrs 🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Striker Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 49 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: 40 years ago? It’s a different game and we are a different club with different expectations . I He won’t get a chance by a huge slice of our support . His continued presence is really unfortunate. The 90% will tolerate him and not be overly vocal for a while, but he will always couple of defeats away from plaza protests. I actually don’t know of anyone who is in any way enthusiastic about him tbf, you could probably say that about the majority of Hearts managers of the last 50 years. JJ, Burley and McDonald are the only ones I can think of that got my vote for being above average. As for RN, his record in achieving high league positions in the 3.5 seasons with us is very good - albeit the 2 wins were outwith the Premiership. It seems that those fans who want rid of him are placing more emphasis on an uninspiring style of football and a couple of embarrassing Cup defeats rather than the ultimate league achievements. A bit like Joe Jordan in the early 90s - fairly dull stuff, but it got us a 2nd place finish. Can't please everyone, I suppose. 😔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DG_HMFC Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 hours ago, Under the floodlight said: Do you like coke in your whisky? Don't drink Whisky. JD 'n' Coke, aye. 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Sending the lad to play sunday league football is Hearts basically telling him that he needs to find a trade Didn’t do Dave Mackay any harm playing Juniors. When at Hearts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BackOfTheNet Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said: Do I need to pack the whelms away until January? They are just sat here gathering dust. Have been on a quest for over a week now without any luck finding them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Under the floodlight Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said: Don't drink Whisky. JD 'n' Coke, aye. 😁 Mazel to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnthomas Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Didn’t do Dave Mackay any harm playing Juniors. When at Hearts. It certainly was how it was done . Kenny Dalglish etc all did it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Under the floodlight Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Just now, Under the floodlight said: Mazel to. Auto correct error, should be Mazel tov. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: tbf, you could probably say that about the majority of Hearts managers of the last 50 years. JJ, Burley and McDonald are the only ones I can think of that got my vote for being above average. As for RN, his record in achieving high league positions in the 3.5 seasons with us is very good - albeit the 2 wins were outwith the Premiership. It seems that those fans who want rid of him are placing more emphasis on an uninspiring style of football and a couple of embarrassing Cup defeats rather than the ultimate league achievements. A bit like Joe Jordan in the early 90s - fairly dull stuff, but it got us a 2nd place finish. Can't please everyone, I suppose. 😔 Same, plus Neilson first time around. And I didn't even like Burley - thought he was way too pleased with Rangers interest and that he played it very badly and naively with Romanov - and I preferred Sandy Jardine to Doddie. Remember wanting us to keep Jardine over Doddie when it was clear the co-manager thing was going to end. Paulo also gets an honourable mention, but his league form really was poor - a backwards step from both JJ and Laslo. Edited July 22 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Brown Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Sending the lad to play sunday league football is Hearts basically telling him that he needs to find a trade No. West lothian juniors, a tier below EoS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kila Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 17 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said: Do I need to pack the whelms away until January? They are just sat here gathering dust. There's always free agent whelms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batistuta87 Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Didn’t do Dave Mackay any harm playing Juniors. When at Hearts. Probably toughened him up 💪🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart500 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Hibs can sign who they like. We've still got Tommy Harrison to make the breakthrough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, kila said: There's always free agent whelms Place your bets on the free agent wheel of chance! Will it be a Pallardo/Bjorn Jonson/Osman Sow/Jon McLaughlin or a Frear/Langer/Oshaniwa/Martin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Probably toughened him up 💪🏻 I bet it did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffros Furios Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 35 minutes ago, LokamotivRobbo said: FTFY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TypoonJambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 30 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: September? Snow coming late this year in Fauldhouse Thatchers Britain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Louis Valois Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 These new signings better be worth the wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Newton51 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Maybe we were waiting for our new recruitment team to be in place before making signings. Either that or Naismith law strikes again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Jambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 21 minutes ago, kila said: There's always free agent whelms The most risky whelm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Striker Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: Pretty much where I am with Mueller. I think he is an absolute coup. FWIW, I watch MLS because I work with a lot of Americans, and the company has a partnership with Comcast/NBC and MLS. I watch it so I can participate when they start talking about it in calls and meetings, and have heard of him. Most of those I speak to are Philadelphia Union or NYCFC fans (in Orlando's division). Based on the times I've watched them, I have formed the opinion that Meuller is a very good player and I can say this with absolute certainty and with very gritted teeth, but he is better than GMS and is one of the better wingers in the league. Orlando are title contenders. They're sitting 4th with a game in hand, winning that will put them 2nd. His opposite winger is Nani, and his striker is Pato. They would pump Hearts. Seeing Hibs sign someone of that calibre has genuinely put me on a right downer. If we signed him, we'd be going ****ing mental. Pisses me right off that you have to explain your knowledge of a particular subject though and that people automatically assume you know nothing. Well said. 👍 JKB isn't good for your mental health these days - too much polarised guff being spouted to fill the void of no signings. For example - does it really matter that much if we end up signing someone we'd never heard of so long as they perform well for us ? Had anyone genuinely heard of MdV, Rudi, Djoum, Sow or Zeefuik before they arrived ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Jambo Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 28 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Have been on a quest for over a week now without any luck finding them These are left over from seasons gone by. Rusted and underused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Des Lynam Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: Pretty much where I am with Mueller. I think he is an absolute coup. FWIW, I watch MLS because I work with a lot of Americans, and the company has a partnership with Comcast/NBC and MLS. I watch it so I can participate when they start talking about it in calls and meetings, and have heard of him. Most of those I speak to are Philadelphia Union or NYCFC fans (in Orlando's division). Based on the times I've watched them, I have formed the opinion that Meuller is a very good player and I can say this with absolute certainty and with very gritted teeth, but he is better than GMS and is one of the better wingers in the league. Orlando are title contenders. They're sitting 4th with a game in hand, winning that will put them 2nd. His opposite winger is Nani, and his striker is Pato. They would pump Hearts. Seeing Hibs sign someone of that calibre has genuinely put me on a right downer. If we signed him, we'd be going ****ing mental. Pisses me right off that you have to explain your knowledge of a particular subject though and that people automatically assume you know nothing. Freddy Adu…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martoon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 20 minutes ago, stuart500 said: Hibs can sign who they like. We've still got Tommy Harrison to make the breakthrough. 😊 A blast from the past. Came on as a very late sub in the 3-1 annihilation of Hibs in March 1991. Probably his finest moment, sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jambopilms Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 40 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: So because you've not heard of him, makes him pish? Like I say, maybe it's been a connection thing, maybe he's been sold on the stepping stone thing, maybe they're paying him more than they should, who knows. Also... This "infested" chat is chronic. Just because someone thinks Hibs have made a good signing, all of a sudden he's an actual Hibee? Grow up pal! I think how easy some find it to praise hibs but find it equally easy to knock our own team really grates some and it makes you wonder what teams forum we are on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregzy2k7 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: I've travelled and worked a lot in the states and Nth America in general and watched a fair bit of MLS although not for a while. My impression is it's still a place where mid career, English League One/Championship, Scottish Premiership outwith the OF, and US and Brazilians, and other Sth and North Americans not good enough for European leagues go to make a bit more money with a nice lifestyle. And fo course a smattering of A-listers approaching retirement. The thing that stood out in almost every game was the lack of competitiveness (partly coming from the lack of passion amongst fas most of whom are there for a nice afternoon out - and to be fair I often enjoyed a very nice afternoon out with a beer and snacks), plus the lack of proper tackling, the naive tactics from C and D list coaches (Stendel style put 5 forwards on the park if you're behind), and the almost universal atrocious defending. Plus truly terrible refereeing. Based on that, I'd be surprised if even someone who seems to have had a decent career over there will adapt to Scottish football very well as it will be so different - much better defenders and better organised defences for a start. Very few players have come across here with only MLS experience and done well. I can't think of any? Perry Kitchen for example looks much better in the MLS than he did for us. So based on that I choose to believe this guy will be shite and we still have a better striker in Boyce than any of HIbs 3 first choices 😄 And GMS will score more goals than this guy. The undercover hobbits on here need to crawl back into their sewers, it's seriously not healthy to be on your rivals fans forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1977 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 48 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I would suggest that’s a guess. Hopefully a poor one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XB52 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: It’s not mental, it’s predictable - I felt you months ago this would happen. It is impossible, completely impossible for neilson to survive. At best he has fans who tolerate him, there will be relative silence when things are going wel but as soon as anything goes wrong it will be a knife through the back. he’s finished. And I few a bit sorry for him but it’s mainly his own fault. You do not get away with some of the results we had last season ever! At any club of note Hearts fans will support the team and the manager. Meanwhile you will continue to wallow in your misery, have fun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, Russ1977 said: Hopefully a poor one I would think so. 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pointon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I think we need are much lauded sporting director to get a jog on with signings this crap that is being peddled about quality over quantity is not sitting right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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