SPFL and Covid ( Leagues 1 and 2 to restart )

[Fitba' broke my Heart]

36 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

BBC asking 'fans' to guess the final placings for the Premiership...........surely jumping the gun/ ignoring the situation, as per normal, when no one actually knows the final line up!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53383728?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story

 

Probably how they will call the league if there's a second wave.

[Bazzas right boot]

8 minutes ago, Reid1874 said:

If you follow world specialists in disease & data along with what the government in the UK data is suggesting this is exactly what the data currently predicts!! Argue you point in 3 months if I'm wrong & I hope I am!!! Step outside your front door and get off the keyboard and have a look with your own eye at all the idiots running about thinking life's back to normal big wake up call for us all on the horizon!

 

 

I generally agree, but you can't tell folk they don't know anything and talk shite  then go on in the same sentence and predict the future. 

 

A forum is all about predictions and opinions, Ofc no one knows the result of Arbitration, but we can discuss it, just like you can discuss the future of covid. 

 

[Boof]

Looking like I can give F5 a rest 'til Monday, then, d'you all reckon? 

[Bazzas right boot]

15 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Wont happen, can’t happen. The UK Treasury furlough cash that kept Scotland afloat at the peak has dried up. Fact of the matter is, if it flares up again we’ll just have to troop on through it. 

 

 

Th UK treasury cash that kept Scotland afloat... 

 

Ffs. 

Do adults actually believe this spin😂😂😂

 

 

 

 

[Harry Potter]

2 hours ago, GinRummy said:

Feel the same Harry. This was all so avoidable ☹️

, It certainly was avoidable buddie,

[harrywragg]

51 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said:

 

 

Going on loan to Dundee United....

 

or Patrick 😎

👀

[jamboinglasgow]

15 minutes ago, Boof said:

Looking like I can give F5 a rest 'til Monday, then, d'you all reckon? 

 

Yup, think your pretty safe. 

 

better be an announcement on Monday as dont think I can face another day like Friday where you are on edge waiting for an announcement ultimately ending with nothing announced.

Edited July 25, 2020 by jamboinglasgow

[wavydavy]

29 minutes ago, Reid1874 said:

If you follow world specialists in disease & data along with what the government in the UK data is suggesting this is exactly what the data currently predicts!! Argue you point in 3 months if I'm wrong & I hope I am!!! Step outside your front door and get off the keyboard and have a look with your own eye at all the idiots running about thinking life's back to normal big wake up call for us all on the horizon!

 

There is a specific thread dedicated to Covid 19 maybe you should be discussing this on that thread.

[wavydavy]

15 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Th UK treasury cash that kept Scotland afloat... 

 

Ffs. 

Do adults actually believe this spin😂😂😂

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly it seems many do.

[Georgecowie]

20 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Th UK treasury cash that kept Scotland afloat... 

 

Ffs. 

Do adults actually believe this spin😂😂😂

 

 

 

 

Apposite on page 1707 of the thread. I do believe to an extent. Hopefully arbitration day becomes a historic date we celebrate for years to come. 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Page 1707 talking about 7 days to go eh........

 

[Reid1874]

11 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

There is a specific thread dedicated to Covid 19 maybe you should be discussing this on that thread.

Agreed, Can you also reply to all the other post that have nothing to do with this thread as that was my original point! 

[R08813]

43 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Wont happen, can’t happen. The UK Treasury furlough cash that kept Scotland afloat at the peak has dried up. Fact of the matter is, if it flares up again we’ll just have to troop on through it. 

Boris? Is that you? 

[A_A wehatethehibs]

2 minutes ago, Reid1874 said:

agreed 👍 miss quote on my part we won't be put on lockdown again and provided cash but if it gets bad as current data suggests it will there will be no football.

Current data and scientific consensus actually is moving toward that this is not a pandemic, but a possible new seasonal illness that will be with mankind for future centuries to come just like the flu and the cold. So with that in mind what’s the point stopping the football, you can’t just stop the world.
 

What we need to do is not ban football, but ban McDonald’s, chippys, cigarettes, and sugary drinks, and nationalise gyms / subsidise gym memberships making daily fitness free of charge or low cost for the entire population - costs to the taxpayer would be minimal and would save fortunes for the NHS over decades, we’d see such an improvement in public health that you completely offset coronavirus by cutting obesity, diabetes and cancer all of which are caused by an overall non physically or mentally fit population. We need more football and sport, not less. 
 

The reason the U.K. and USA are the worst hit is because FACT: we have the highest obesity, cancer and diabetes rates caused by unhealthy culture and lifestyle. Why nobody talks about this and instead just blames trump or in Scotland’s case blames boris / England - it’s all barking up the wrong tree. These are things we can actually DO something about and part of it starts with 11 players, a ball, grass, and another 11 players - football is literally part of the long term solution not part of the problem with this virus.

 

Shut pubs, shut restaurants, ban unhealthy food and SURGE people out on to the football pitches, rugby pitches, squash courts, swimming pools. Get the national fitness and diet sorted. We CANNOT stop people from catching viruses or control it but we CAN surge the national fitness levels and sort out the fact that 30-50% of our population is either obese, alcoholic, smokers or otherwise dreadfully unhealthy. So let’s ban the one thing that can get folk fit, sport?

 

sorry off topic, rant over. The bottom line: FFS football must be played! 

[Deevers]

1 hour ago, wavydavy said:

 

Or maybe re working the fixture list. 😍

Or giving Doncaster a chance to get his crayons out and write his resignation letter.

[kila]

Maybe 77, the return of Isma?

 

[Harry Potter]

1 minute ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Current data and scientific consensus actually is moving toward that this is not a pandemic, but a possible new seasonal illness that will be with mankind for future centuries to come just like the flu and the cold. So with that in mind what’s the point stopping the football, you can’t just stop the world.
 

What we need to do is not ban football, but ban McDonald’s, chippys, cigarettes, and sugary drinks, and nationalise gyms / subsidise gym memberships making daily fitness free of charge or low cost for the entire population - costs to the taxpayer would be minimal and would save fortunes for the NHS over decades, we’d see such an improvement in public health that you completely offset coronavirus by cutting obesity, diabetes and cancer all of which are caused by an overall non physically or mentally fit population. We need more football and sport, not less. 
 

The reason the U.K. and USA are the worst hit is because FACT: we have the highest obesity, cancer and diabetes rates caused by unhealthy culture and lifestyle. Why nobody talks about this and instead just blames trump or in Scotland’s case blames boris / England - it’s all barking up the wrong tree. These are things we can actually DO something about and part of it starts with 11 players, a ball, grass, and another 11 players - football is literally part of the long term solution not part of the problem with this virus.

 

Shut pubs, shut restaurants, ban unhealthy food and SURGE people out on to the football pitches, rugby pitches, squash courts, swimming pools. Get the national fitness and diet sorted. We CANNOT stop people from catching viruses or control it but we CAN surge the national fitness levels and sort out the fact that 30-50% of our population is either obese, alcoholic, smokers or otherwise dreadfully unhealthy. So let’s ban the one thing that can get folk fit, sport?

 

sorry off topic, rant over. The bottom line: FFS football must be played! 

off topic a wee bit , forget the Squash, im hopeless, now badminton yes.

[Walter Bishop]

43 minutes ago, Reid1874 said:

agreed 👍 miss quote on my part we won't be put on lockdown again and provided cash but if it gets bad as current data suggests it will there will be no football.

Current data, From where?

[Reid1874]

3 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Current data and scientific consensus actually is moving toward that this is not a pandemic, but a possible new seasonal illness that will be with mankind for future centuries to come just like the flu and the cold. So with that in mind what’s the point stopping the football, you can’t just stop the world.
 

What we need to do is not ban football, but ban McDonald’s, chippys, cigarettes, and sugary drinks, and nationalise gyms / subsidise gym memberships making daily fitness free of charge or low cost for the entire population - costs to the taxpayer would be minimal and would save fortunes for the NHS over decades, we’d see such an improvement in public health that you completely offset coronavirus by cutting obesity, diabetes and cancer all of which are caused by an overall non physically or mentally fit population. We need more football and sport, not less. 
 

The reason the U.K. and USA are the worst hit is because FACT: we have the highest obesity, cancer and diabetes rates caused by unhealthy culture and lifestyle. Why nobody talks about this and instead just blames trump or in Scotland’s case blames boris / England - it’s all barking up the wrong tree. These are things we can actually DO something about and part of it starts with 11 players, a ball, grass, and another 11 players - football is literally part of the long term solution not part of the problem with this virus.

 

Shut pubs, shut restaurants, ban unhealthy food and SURGE people out on to the football pitches, rugby pitches, squash courts, swimming pools. Get the national fitness and diet sorted. We CANNOT stop people from catching viruses or control it but we CAN surge the national fitness levels and sort out the fact that 30-50% of our population is either obese, alcoholic, smokers or otherwise dreadfully unhealthy. So let’s ban the one thing that can get folk fit, sport?

 

sorry off topic, rant over. The bottom line: FFS football must be played! 

I agree 100%

[Scnorthedinburgh]

16 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

 

Sadly it seems many do.

It's amazing the number of Scots who don't think they are taxed by Westminster.

Back to topic

Does the silence mean good news for us, I just can't see any reason to wait till Monday of the week the season starts to announce that we lost everything goes ahead as planned.

 

[Shanks said no]

BBC script says that Brian Mclauchlin is going to discuss the shenanigans around Hearts and Partick

 

shenanigans

/ʃɪˈnanɪɡ(ə)nz/

Learn to pronounce

noun

INFORMAL

secret or dishonest activity or manoeuvring.

"the chairman was accused of financial shenanigans"

silly or high-spirited behaviour; mischief.

Edited July 25, 2020 by The Frenchman Returns

[Reid1874]

5 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Current data, From where?

I'm not going to start to copy and paste data or reports that are out for the general public to find, read & educate themselves! Look at you will find and try digging deeper than Facebook or the BBC!!

[Jambo-Fox]

IF the panel reached a verdict on Friday and IF the public announcement is delayed until Monday, it could mean that the decision has major implications for many parties. Ie it’s not a simple decision that only affects HMFC&PTFC (& Stranraer). And IF this is correct it must surely mean reinstatement!

[SMJ_1874]

14 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Current data and scientific consensus actually is moving toward that this is not a pandemic, but a possible new seasonal illness that will be with mankind for future centuries to come just like the flu and the cold. So with that in mind what’s the point stopping the football, you can’t just stop the world.
 

What we need to do is not ban football, but ban McDonald’s, chippys, cigarettes, and sugary drinks, and nationalise gyms / subsidise gym memberships making daily fitness free of charge or low cost for the entire population - costs to the taxpayer would be minimal and would save fortunes for the NHS over decades, we’d see such an improvement in public health that you completely offset coronavirus by cutting obesity, diabetes and cancer all of which are caused by an overall non physically or mentally fit population. We need more football and sport, not less. 
 

The reason the U.K. and USA are the worst hit is because FACT: we have the highest obesity, cancer and diabetes rates caused by unhealthy culture and lifestyle. Why nobody talks about this and instead just blames trump or in Scotland’s case blames boris / England - it’s all barking up the wrong tree. These are things we can actually DO something about and part of it starts with 11 players, a ball, grass, and another 11 players - football is literally part of the long term solution not part of the problem with this virus.

 

Shut pubs, shut restaurants, ban unhealthy food and SURGE people out on to the football pitches, rugby pitches, squash courts, swimming pools. Get the national fitness and diet sorted. We CANNOT stop people from catching viruses or control it but we CAN surge the national fitness levels and sort out the fact that 30-50% of our population is either obese, alcoholic, smokers or otherwise dreadfully unhealthy. So let’s ban the one thing that can get folk fit, sport?

 

sorry off topic, rant over. The bottom line: FFS football must be played! 

That post just made me put my cheeseburger with fries down, halfway through eating it. Better give the McFlurry a miss now as you've put me on a guilt trip 😢

Edited July 25, 2020 by Saughton Jambo

[sunblestjambo]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

IF the panel reached a verdict on Friday and IF the public announcement is delayed until Monday, it could mean that the decision has major implications for many parties. Ie it’s not a simple decision that only affects HMFC&PTFC (& Stranraer). And IF this is correct it must surely mean reinstatement!

Would be good but I suspect the opposite. If a decision has been reached that requires any form of reworking fixtures then I think the announcement would have been made almost immediately in order to provide parties with as much time as possible to make the necessary arrangements. 

[OTT]

Just now, Scnorthedinburgh said:

It's amazing the number of Scots who don't think they are taxed by Westminster.

Back to topic

Does the silence mean good news for us, I just can't see any reason to wait till Monday of the week the season starts to announce that we lost everything goes ahead as planned.

 

 

I honestly don't know how to read it. 

 

A quick result would haven meant either the evidence was clear, or so unclear that it wasn't worthy of longer debate. 

A longer result suggests the panel have a tougher decision which makes me think the SPFL QC did a good job trying to make them look in someway competent. 

 

If the SPFL are successful, then surely that sets a dangerous precedent in that you can effectively run a punitive & deeply flawed vote then round on one voter to brow beat/bribe them into submission to get your vote passed. What they did was wrong and if the panel condone that by giving them a pass then it won't leave me with much hope for Scottish football going forward. 

 

Lets not pretend if releasing the funds wasn't tied to that vote it would have passed. Its absolutely would have been dead in the water. Aberdeen were going to vote no as were Hibs. Livi later expressed remorse about it too so on that basis it fails. Loads of clubs voted because they believed they were doing right by the harder up clubs in getting them the cash they need because Doncaster dressed it up as the only way to release the money. If its a members organisation, then the members surely can demand the money is released ? 

[Rick Sanchez]

If the evidence was heard and finished by Wednesday or Thursday and we don't have a verdict yet then something is going on.

 

Clarky only took a one hour lunch break to reach his verdict.

[Italian Lambretta]

7 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

BBC script says that Brian Mclauchlin is going to discuss the shenanigans around Hearts and Partick

 

shenanigans

/ʃɪˈnanɪɡ(ə)nz/

Learn to pronounce

noun

INFORMAL

secret or dishonest activity or manoeuvring.

"the chairman was accused of financial shenanigans"

silly or high-spirited behaviour; mischief.

No doubt Dick Gordon will be sniggering to Brian how he trolled the Hearts fans yesterday with his draft article

[Walter Bishop]

1 minute ago, Reid1874 said:

I'm not going to start to copy and paste data or reports that are out for the general public to find, read & educate themselves! Look at you will find and try digging deeper than Facebook or the BBC!!

Ok Piers, settle down. Appears to me that you are the one looking at BBC and facebook, given your apparent level of scaremongery.  The reports and data that are out there for the general public to find show no indication whatsoever of any 2nd waves or impending doom people like you seem to crave. Infact they go as far as to show the whole thing is now turning into farce.

[sunblestjambo]

Just now, sunblestjambo said:

Would be good but I suspect the opposite. If a decision has been reached that requires any form of reworking fixtures then I think the announcement would have been made almost immediately in order to provide parties with as much time as possible to make the necessary arrangements. 

But I hope I’m wrong 🤞 

[wavydavy]

16 minutes ago, Reid1874 said:

Agreed, Can you also reply to all the other post that have nothing to do with this thread as that was my original point! 

 

I thought you might be able to do that and get your post count up a bit.👍

[Trained One]

So Ross County paying £2000 per round of testing.  What happened to their magical time machine. 

[Don Dan]

According to Dickhead Gordon all the evidence was heard a few days ago and the panel are working through it. 🤥

[A_A wehatethehibs]

1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said:

That post just made me put my cheeseburger with fries down, halfway through eating it. Better give the McFlurry a miss now as you've put me on a guilt trip 😢

I apologise, an extreme rant I wouldn’t really ban McNuggets. But the general gist is, we as a country need to sort out our obesity, cancer, heart disease and diabetes crisis. Unlike coronavirus, these things are within our power!

[Reid1874]

Just now, Walter Bishop said:

Ok Piers, settle down. Appears to me that you are the one looking at BBC and facebook, given your apparent level of scaremongery.  The reports and data that are out there for the general public to find show no indication whatsoever of any 2nd waves or impending doom people like you seem to crave. Infact they go as far as to show the whole thing is now turning into farce.

Go with that all you want, 1 family member survived after 3 weeks in ICU 3 months ago and only started to walk without being assisted in the past 2 weeks due to neurological damage from covid-19. Other family members in middle East, Asia, Canada and New Zealand with there own personal experience of friends and extended family who have died & survived along with everyone else in my family in Scotland & England who have get to even catch Covid so I would say I have a well rounded grasp on the situations and how serious it is, can & will be.

[GinRummy]

3 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

According to Dickhead Gordon all the evidence was heard a few days ago and the panel are working through it. 🤥

How could he possibly know that?

[Bazzas right boot]

12 minutes ago, Scnorthedinburgh said:

It's amazing the number of Scots who don't think they are taxed by Westminster.

Back to topic

Does the silence mean good news for us, I just can't see any reason to wait till Monday of the week the season starts to announce that we lost everything goes ahead as planned.

 

 

The tories won't even subsidise a spare bedroom but many  think they are happy to subsidise a whole country. 

Cracking train of thought. 

 

Anyway, looks like no news or leaks. 

 

[Spellczech]

16 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

BBC script says that Brian Mclauchlin is going to discuss the shenanigans around Hearts and Partick

 

shenanigans

/ʃɪˈnanɪɡ(ə)nz/

Learn to pronounce

noun

INFORMAL

secret or dishonest activity or manoeuvring.

"the chairman was accused of financial shenanigans"

silly or high-spirited behaviour; mischief.

Could be interesting - I assume they mean the stuff surrounding John Nelms, his vote changing and extended deadline from the SPFL, and his phone calls to Partick and Stranraer positing reallocations of DUFC's prize for promotion as an unofficial parachute payment plus his phone calls with "big hitters" promising glamour friendlies...Everything Hearts and Partick have done has been public and above board. 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Spellczech

[Reid1874]

7 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

I thought you might be able to do that and get your post count up a bit.👍

post count i couldn't care less been silent on this platform for years this is the first time I've ever posted.

Edited July 25, 2020 by Reid1874

[Scnorthedinburgh]

4 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I honestly don't know how to read it. 

 

A quick result would haven meant either the evidence was clear, or so unclear that it wasn't worthy of longer debate. 

A longer result suggests the panel have a tougher decision which makes me think the SPFL QC did a good job trying to make them look in someway competent. 

 

If the SPFL are successful, then surely that sets a dangerous precedent in that you can effectively run a punitive & deeply flawed vote then round on one voter to brow beat/bribe them into submission to get your vote passed. What they did was wrong and if the panel condone that by giving them a pass then it won't leave me with much hope for Scottish football going forward. 

 

Lets not pretend if releasing the funds wasn't tied to that vote it would have passed. Its absolutely would have been dead in the water. Aberdeen were going to vote no as were Hibs. Livi later expressed remorse about it too so on that basis it fails. Loads of clubs voted because they believed they were doing right by the harder up clubs in getting them the cash they need because Doncaster dressed it up as the only way to release the money. If its a members organisation, then the members surely can demand the money is released ? 

2 lower league chairmen have both said there was no need for the vote if cash was the driver.

1 got 750 the other 2k

Most monies had already been paid up.

This was about not voiding the season and ruining Celtics run, nothing more nothing less.

If Rangers were 1 point behind with a game in hand and 8 to play the vote would not have happened.

[AllyjamboDerbyshire]

Just now, GinRummy said:

How could he possibly know that?

He reads Kickback🤣

 

But really, does nobody else on the panel (I presume there's one) think to ask him how he knows this? Of course, if they did, they'd be cutting off a nice little earner by ensuring they're never asked on again.

[Scnorthedinburgh]

4 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I honestly don't know how to read it. 

 

A quick result would haven meant either the evidence was clear, or so unclear that it wasn't worthy of longer debate. 

A longer result suggests the panel have a tougher decision which makes me think the SPFL QC did a good job trying to make them look in someway competent. 

 

If the SPFL are successful, then surely that sets a dangerous precedent in that you can effectively run a punitive & deeply flawed vote then round on one voter to brow beat/bribe them into submission to get your vote passed. What they did was wrong and if the panel condone that by giving them a pass then it won't leave me with much hope for Scottish football going forward. 

 

Lets not pretend if releasing the funds wasn't tied to that vote it would have passed. Its absolutely would have been dead in the water. Aberdeen were going to vote no as were Hibs. Livi later expressed remorse about it too so on that basis it fails. Loads of clubs voted because they believed they were doing right by the harder up clubs in getting them the cash they need because Doncaster dressed it up as the only way to release the money. If its a members organisation, then the members surely can demand the money is released ? 

2 lower league chairmen have both said there was no need for the vote if cash was the driver.

1 got 750 the other 2k

Most monies had already been paid up.

This was about not voiding the season and ruining Celtics run, nothing more nothing less.

If Rangers were 1 point behind with a game in hand and 8 to play the vote would not have happened.

[eyesandears]

These guys on BBC are absolutely clueless. They are asking questions of each other not none of them know the answers to. It's purile rubbish. I actually think they now need to bin this show completely.

[Walter Bishop]

The lack of knowledge and the amount of stupidity coming from Willie Miller, James McFadden and the likes on Sportsound is an embarrassment. 

 

Willie Miller should be in a care home not a national radio studio! 

[Bazzas right boot]

3 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

How could he possibly know that?

 

He knows nothing apart from where Willie miller's "on" switch and charger are. 

[Boof]

Just now, eyesandears said:

These guys on BBC are absolutely clueless. They are asking questions of each other not none of them know the answers to. It's purile rubbish. I actually think they now need to bin this show completely.

 

Agree. It's not like it's all that much better even when there IS football being played.

[Scnorthedinburgh]

2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

The tories won't even subsidise a spare bedroom but many  think they are happy to subsidise a whole country. 

Cracking train of thought. 

 

Anyway, looks like no news or leaks. 

 

And everything so far has leaked.

I'm more confident due to the silence.

[JKBMod 3]

If you want to discuss the pandemic in general then do it in the shed please. 

[AndyNic]

No news is good news.

 

Longer it goes on the better. If we had zero chance this would have been over after the first day. 

[Bazzas right boot]

14 minutes ago, Trained One said:

So Ross County paying £2000 per round of testing.  What happened to their magical time machine. 

 

Aye and Hamilton installed a inflatable bouncy castle thing with a shower, who'd have funk that it would cost more than a machine of ebay or a ****ing inflatable kids toy. 

🤣