Roxy Hearts Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Are all the SNP acolytes on here totally at ease and comfortable with Humza Yousaf's new Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill? What does it state? Is it "verminous? Not got a clue! You wouldn't agree with him if he gave you £20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: What does it state? Is it "verminous? Not got a clue! You wouldn't agree with him if he gave you £20. Eloquent response. Seriously are you not concerned by this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Justin Z said: You could try not poisoning the well with this "SNP acolytes" pish, you butcher's apron lover (see?). It's only referring to them as followers not really understanding your angst or reference to being a butchers apron lover. Perhaps you're a little strung out with worry in case Trump gets a second term. Who knows, who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It's only referring to them as followers not really understanding your angst or reference to being a butchers apron lover. Perhaps you're a little strung out with worry in case Trump gets a second term. Who knows, who cares. And seeing as you didn't respond to my actual question, or addressed the substance of my response, we can all safely assume you didn't actually have a point beyond SNP Bad. Thanks for confirming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It's only referring to them as followers not really understanding your angst or reference to being a butchers apron lover. Perhaps you're a little strung out with worry in case Trump gets a second term. Who knows, who cares. Are there many SNP "acolytes" on here? One or two maybe, but not a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Smithee said: Are there many SNP "acolytes" on here? One or two maybe, but not a lot. Obviously cannot be completely accurate but certainly more than 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Obviously cannot be completely accurate but certainly more than 1 or 2. Pish. I dont know any. Most who vote SNP understand they are the main driving force that will lead to Scottish Independence so thats why they vote for them. They dont have a love for the SNP the way folk on here blindly follow anything UKOK, Union Jack, Great Britain or Westminster. No, I will vote SNP until we get Indy then we will see who is better to deliver a fairer Scotland that gives AF about the actual people who live here and not the super rich with the sponsered TV & Newspaper mouth pieces we currently have. Acolyte??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: Pish. I dont know any. Most who vote SNP understand they are the main driving force that will lead to Scottish Independence so thats why they vote for them. They dont have a love for the SNP the way folk on here blindly follow anything UKOK, Union Jack, Great Britain or Westminster. No, I will vote SNP until we get Indy then we will see who is better to deliver a fairer Scotland that gives AF about the actual people who live here and not the super rich with the sponsered TV & Newspaper mouth pieces we currently have. Acolyte??? Follower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 02/11/2020 at 18:59, Seymour M Hersh said: Are all the SNP acolytes on here totally at ease and comfortable with Humza Yousaf's new Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill? I'm not at all. I find it deeply concerning, his entire defence of his policy isn't grounded in a seasoned legal background with heaps of experienced legal minds to draw on for support, its entirely his experience as a victim of racist abuse. The guy doesn't have a legal background at all. He's got absolutely no relevant experience to hold such an important post. To be clear, I condemn any and all racist abuse (obviously), however, we don't make legislation from purely the victims perspective as it will lead to very one sided blinkered outcomes. This legislation alongside the GRA is entirely unelectable on its own merits, and seems to be a complete liberty take from a party that know they have the effective block vote by virtue of being the only pro independence party. The constitutional question needs to be answered definitively though. We can't have this issue dragging on any longer. They've got my vote this time, but its the last time the SNP get my vote. Idiots like Yousaf, Spiers and the rest of the NEC have guaranteed that. Its very much a holding my nose and getting it over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 What a mess the Nats are in. The vote at Holyrood is not binding on the Scottish government, although it will increase pressure on ministers to abide by the will of parliament. Deputy First Minister John Swinney said ministers "always seek to respect the decisions of parliament" and would "consider the implications" of the vote. The SNP aren't even accountable to Holyrood it would seem 😄. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 It was good to see Andrew Neil get that smug git Alyn Smith told at lunchtime. Free from the shackles of BBC impartiality, Neil could be a formidable pain in the erchie for the Scottish Nicola party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: What a mess the Nats are in. The vote at Holyrood is not binding on the Scottish government, although it will increase pressure on ministers to abide by the will of parliament. Deputy First Minister John Swinney said ministers "always seek to respect the decisions of parliament" and would "consider the implications" of the vote. The SNP aren't even accountable to Holyrood it would seem 😄. Andrew Neil gave Alyn Smith a proper roasting on tv today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: It was good to see Andrew Neil get that smug git Alyn Smith told at lunchtime. Free from the shackles of BBC impartiality, Neil could be a formidable pain in the erchie for the Scottish Nicola party Andrew Neil is good at what he does and ever time I’ve seen him he rips the person apart Think that’s why Boris gave him a body swerve last year as he tore apart the other leaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Fun Boaby said: It was good to see Andrew Neil get that smug git Alyn Smith told at lunchtime. Free from the shackles of BBC impartiality, Neil could be a formidable pain in the erchie for the Scottish Nicola party Any links to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Any links to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Any links to that? It'll be on catch up I think, worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: Well done Alyn Smith. Neil is a stooge and made a great advert for independence and he knows it. His ignorant, disrespectful ranting is glorious to see for Scots. Glaswegians voted for independence so I think I'd trust them over that stooge of the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: Well done Alyn Smith. Neil is a stooge and made a great advert for independence and he knows it. His ignorant, disrespectful ranting is glorious to see for Scots. Glaswegians voted for independence so I think I'd trust them over that stooge of the state. How do you figure he's a "stooge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: How do you figure he's a "stooge" An opinion based on his anti Scottish ranting over the years. His poor editorial management of newspapers and he's a perfect example of a britnat that chooses items that suits agendas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: An opinion based on his anti Scottish ranting over the years. His poor editorial management of newspapers and he's a perfect example of a britnat that chooses items that suits agendas. Whats he said thats anti-Scottish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: Whats he said thats anti-Scottish? Glasgow is a city is Scotland or was that a pro Scotland rant? Do you think he's balanced in his views? I've never once heard him talk about his country of birth in positive terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Glasgow is a city is Scotland or was that a pro Scotland rant? Do you think he's balanced in his views? I've never once heard him talk about his country of birth in positive terms. What was anti scottish that he said today? Was he not stating figures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Glasgow is a city is Scotland or was that a pro Scotland rant? Do you think he's balanced in his views? I've never once heard him talk about his country of birth in positive terms. ? I get the impression he doesn't suffer fools of any persuasion and has the knowledge to call them out. Certainly doesn't make him a stooge. Quite the opposite. No wonder Boris avoided him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: What was anti scottish that he said today? Was he not stating figures? This chancer is always having a go at Scotland and you can be rest assured if it was governed by the Tories he would be on telling us how wonderful everything is! Only my opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Roxy Hearts said: This chancer is always having a go at Scotland and you can be rest assured if it was governed by the Tories he would be on telling us how wonderful everything is! Only my opinions. So what wat was "anti scottish" today?? Is bringing up uncomfortable figures to an SNP politician "anti scotish"? Were the figures he quoted accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: This chancer is always having a go at Scotland and you can be rest assured if it was governed by the Tories he would be on telling us how wonderful everything is! Only my opinions. Having a go at the SNP and/or their record isn't the same as having a go at Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Fun Boaby said: ? I get the impression he doesn't suffer fools of any persuasion and has the knowledge to call them out. Certainly doesn't make him a stooge. Quite the opposite. No wonder Boris avoided him. It's his overall attitude that does my head in. He should be giving politicians a hard time but just comes over as a placeman, hence my comment. Never says anything positive about Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The saviours of Scotland are still number 1. Easy!!!! Tick Tock Onionists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: So what wat was "anti scottish" today?? Is bringing up uncomfortable figures to an SNP politician "anti scotish"? Were the figures he quoted accurate? It's my interpretation of him today and over the years. What about telling us about Scotland's wealth being squandered just for balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Roxy Hearts said: It's my interpretation of him today and over the years. What about telling us about Scotland's wealth being squandered just for balance. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: It's my interpretation of him today and over the years. What about telling us about Scotland's wealth being squandered just for balance. Andrew Neil? He's a fat Paisley Grammar Feg. He's the quintessential house jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Fun Boaby said: That cuts off before the guy Neil goes on about how Scotland has full charge of education Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, theshed said: That cuts off before the guy Neil goes on about how Scotland has full charge of education Longer version here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Fun Boaby said: Longer version here I don't think that Alyn Smith cimes over well on tv, surely the SNP have someone more accomplished?? He was certainly made to look daft today, the figures are a bloody disgrace by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: I don't think that Alyn Smith cimes over well on tv, surely the SNP have someone more accomplished?? He was certainly made to look daft today, the figures are a bloody disgrace by the way. He's a smarmy wee moon face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Fun Boaby said: He's a smarmy wee moon face Had a face like a well skelped erse today, torn a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: Had a face like a well skelped erse today, torn a new one. He also wants shot of BAMEs and disabled from the SNP as they hinder independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Andrew Neil is spot on. The Education system in Scotland is atrocious compared to what it was and that is entirely down to the SNP tearing apart a good system and making an absolute dugs dinner of it. They need to go, staler than Ghandis flip flops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 So on teatime news the Krankies Extreme want next years Scottish Parliamentary elections to have a question in ballot papers and be a mandate to declare independence - the nick o the snp people the bbc news interviewed in the piece was embarrassing to say the least anyhoo Boris still says Naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 So where was Neil in the 70s, 80’s & early 90’s when folks in the East end of Glasgow where STILL living in condemned buildings whilst tens of £Billions of oil profits were being syphoned away to London to pay for the M25, the Falklands war, Channel tunnel & prop up Maggie destroying Scottish industry etc.? Long before the SNP were even on the Radar. Did he complain when Maggie sold off the council housing stock, put thousands of men on the jobs scrapheap or when Labour stopped building council houses? Did he complain? Did he feck! Indy is now well above 50% in every poll and the unionists like him dont like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: So where was Neil in the 70s, 80’s & early 90’s when folks in the East end of Glasgow where STILL living in condemned buildings whilst tens of £Billions of oil profits were being syphoned away to London to pay for the M25, the Falklands war, Channel tunnel & prop up Maggie destroying Scottish industry etc.? Long before the SNP were even on the Radar. Did he complain when Maggie sold off the council housing stock, put thousands of men on the jobs scrapheap or when Labour stopped building council houses? Did he complain? Did he feck! Indy is now well above 50% in every poll and the unionists like him dont like it. Cheering her on as editor of The Sunday Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: So on teatime news the Krankies Extreme want next years Scottish Parliamentary elections to have a question in ballot papers and be a mandate to declare independence - the nick o the snp people the bbc news interviewed in the piece was embarrassing to say the least anyhoo Boris still says Naw Quite right too, ask the people of Scotland if they want independence, and if they do, declare independence. **** Boris, the people of Scotland are the only opinion that matters in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: So on teatime news the Krankies Extreme want next years Scottish Parliamentary elections to have a question in ballot papers and be a mandate to declare independence - the nick o the snp people the bbc news interviewed in the piece was embarrassing to say the least anyhoo Boris still says Naw Are you staying at home. You know, Boris says Naw to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Smithee said: Quite right too, ask the people of Scotland if they want independence, and if they do, declare independence. **** Boris, the people of Scotland are the only opinion that matters in this. For what period does the opinion of the people of Scotland matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: For what period does the opinion of the people of Scotland matter? It always matters, but it also changes. The question was asked, we said no and the correct course was followed. Time and circumstances have changed massively though, promises made and broken. The people of Scotland are sovereign even when I don't agree with the consensus. It's time to ask again - what is the will of the people of Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: So where was Neil in the 70s, 80’s & early 90’s when folks in the East end of Glasgow where STILL living in condemned buildings whilst tens of £Billions of oil profits were being syphoned away to London to pay for the M25, the Falklands war, Channel tunnel & prop up Maggie destroying Scottish industry etc.? Long before the SNP were even on the Radar. Did he complain when Maggie sold off the council housing stock, put thousands of men on the jobs scrapheap or when Labour stopped building council houses? Did he complain? Did he feck! Indy is now well above 50% in every poll and the unionists like him dont like it. This is bang on. I seem to recall seeing a video from Andrew Neil from late 70’s or possibly early 80’s telling us how the oil was running out. Was it aye? And what differences did 50 years of labour make? Glasgow has long been a troubled city with its hard man image. Neil does a good job of grilling everyone and he could have someone from every party on back to back and give them all an absolute hiding so getting a bit excited about him giving someone like Smith a going over is white watchable despite me not agreeing with all of it. Alyn Smith is a smug tosser though seeing him squirm a bit wasn’t bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, Smithee said: It always matters, but it also changes. The question was asked, we said no and the correct course was followed. Time and circumstances have changed massively though, promises made and broken. The people of Scotland are sovereign even when I don't agree with the consensus. It's time to ask again - what is the will of the people of Scotland? It's absolutely not time to ask again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Fun Boaby said: It's absolutely not time to ask again. To their credit, they've never deleted this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: To their credit, they've never deleted this. All that means is that an Indy Scotland would have been out of the EU quicker than Brexit. Edited November 6, 2020 by Fun Boaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fun Boaby said: double post Edited November 6, 2020 by Fun Boaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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