Ray Gin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: So you whine about austerity, despite governments having a duty to be austere, and debt. WOW. Just goes to prove there isn't such a thing as a free lunch. The chickens from the Barnett Consequential farm are now coming home to roost. Governments do not have a duty to be austere. Typical tory attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: So you whine about austerity, despite governments having a duty to be austere, and debt. WOW. Just goes to prove there isn't such a thing as a free lunch. The chickens from the Barnett Consequential farm are now coming home to roost. 200 people in a soup kitchen Q in Glasgow George Square but thousands being spent on Indyref2 - £500k wasted by SG in Salmond episode - its the toaries !! just wait till indy they will need a bigger bloody square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Until she gets "whacked " by Alex Salmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Has the SG given a date for road map out? The SG are that lost they will need a sat nav to find the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I've heard the SNP plan to change the party logo to a pint glass in a circle with a big red cross over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Governments do not have a duty to be austere. Typical tory attitude. With other people's money , yes they do. The meaning of the word "austere" has been conflated with "tooaaarry cutbacks". NHS procurement policy, for example, would benefit from a bit of austerity. It's true interpretation , in a financial sense, is to get value for money from the spending decisions they take. Avoiding spending 500k on a botched legal case that they knew they would lose would be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: With other people's money , yes they do. The meaning of the word "austere" has been conflated with "tooaaarry cutbacks". NHS procurement policy, for example, would benefit from a bit of austerity. It's true interpretation , in a financial sense, is to get value for money from the spending decisions they take. Avoiding spending 500k on a botched legal case that they knew they would lose would be a good start. How about avoiding throwing hundreds of millions away with dodgy contracts for party doners and MPs' mates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 hours ago, jonesy said: She neither has nor wants one, EC. I've yet to see any evidence that Sturgeon is keen on returning the freedoms we all took for granted up until March last year. She hasn't articulated any thoughts on an exit strategy because it doesn't exist. That is, unless you count watching what Westminster do, tutting at it, and then doing something a little less positive. Everyone sat safely at home on their devices, or at most away out for messages and/or a wee jog around the block, tuning into a daily update/PPB, staying out of pubs, football stadia and each others' houses: that's the lingering reality and a wet dream for the control freaks in charge. If this was happening in another country, most of the folk lapping up her bullshit - or at least, excusing it in the name of 'staying safe' and 'protecting the NHS' - would be mocking it or forwarding emails to promote petitions urging their elected reps to publicly condemn the tyranny. Great posting 5 hours ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Did anyone follow restrictions at Xmas? I live in a cul-de-sac where we have an old witch that has members of her family visit every day since the 1st lockdown and a drug dealer who seem's to think lockdown is just for him to be able to punt more. Yes well that’s one area of the economy which is thriving . Pity it’s not taxed 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: Wow. Now I have full confirmation you're a unionist . Oh dear. Cause I stated a fact ? One can be critical of the SNP CV strategy and still want independence you know . They are not mutually exclusive to each other although judging by the numpty postings I see daily by Indy supporters I’m beginning to think there are heaps of dafties out there supporting the SNP no matter what . Next Scottish election I’ll be voting Labour as a thank you to the msp Labour guy who helped me with my NHS battles recently and as a protes vote about the SNP but in the next Westminster election I’ll be voting for my local MP Joanna cherry for a variety of reasons . 30 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: There is no road map for Scotland as she will wait for the UK one on the 22nd then will critique it, criticise it and find a way to adapt something similar but tweaked to inject more caution. So predictable. Next she will want to say she wants furlough extended knowing it won’t be, why? Simply to create yet another division and grievance with the UK government. She knows the social and economic damage that’s being done but the opportunity to stoke grievance is just to great. Another example, she talked about elimination and a zero Covid policy yet this is not being pursued seriously but any other major European counties and she knows with the interconnected nature of the Uk and Europe it is not a realistic approach . Even the WHO don’t advocate that approach for Europe. So of course it’s the one she advocates as again it creates a division with the UK. It’s as tiresome as it is predictable and watch the next few weeks. That will be her playbook. Even Wales are talking about opening up not our Nicola . Yes this is very accurate . There is never any hope in this daily briefings . However her fans cite her as being realistic and cautious but she’s just playing it by ear sitting on the fence 24 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: LOL the UK gov is 2 trillion in debt. That also includes Scotland then . Remember our Achilles heel at the last ref was the economy . It will now be our Achilles foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, jonesy said: She's in a politician's ideal situation. Can claim credit for anything positive, while having the bogeymonster in London to blame for anything and everything that goes wrong. Her after-the-fact criticism of the EOTHOS was as bare-faced as you could get, and yet, her buttoned-up-the-back supporters slapped their flippers together and barked like the trained circus animals they are. Yes that really angered me when she criticised the eat out thing . Again just jumping on the band wagon . There really was no evidence that it created any spikes as such but just another kicking to the hospitality industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: How about avoiding throwing hundreds of millions away with dodgy contracts for party doners and MPs' mates? I agree, equally as bad. But I'm not defending the UK govt at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, jonesy said: How would you feel if it was a Cuba Libre rather than a pint? 10 year stretch and forced de-bawing for being caught on the spirits I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: Yes that really angered me when she criticised the eat out thing . Again just jumping on the band wagon . There really was no evidence that it created any spikes as such but just another kicking to the hospitality industry Ah, eat out to help out. Halcyon days, really enjoyed making the most of that. That said, I don't remember it coming with an order or a gun to the head to use it. Same as at Christmas, 'Boris killed everyone'...by suggesting they take decisions based on risk in their circumstances. This whole thing has made me realise that it's not just authoritarian government that want to control people, so many people seem to actually want, and more frighteningly, need, the government to do their thinking, hold their hand and wipe their arse for them. Staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: We need more naw voters imo. 😒😒🤨 13 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Great posting Yes well that’s one area of the economy which is thriving . Pity it’s not taxed Cause I stated a fact ? One can be critical of the SNP CV strategy and still want independence you know . They are not mutually exclusive to each other although judging by the numpty postings I see daily by Indy supporters I’m beginning to think there are heaps of dafties out there supporting the SNP no matter what . Next Scottish election I’ll be voting Labour as a thank you to the msp Labour guy who helped me with my NHS battles recently and as a protes vote about the SNP but in the next Westminster election I’ll be voting for my local MP Joanna cherry for a variety of reasons . Yes this is very accurate . There is never any hope in this daily briefings . However her fans cite her as being realistic and cautious but she’s just playing it by ear sitting on the fence That also includes Scotland then . Remember our Achilles heel at the last ref was the economy . It will now be our Achilles foot Ooo lads , lassies and trees if you vote Yes you’ll wake up without an economy and your money will have disappeared overnight , vote no and you’ll still have your money in your bank accounts in the morning😏😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: How about avoiding throwing hundreds of millions away with dodgy contracts for party doners and MPs' mates? It's into billions...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: It's into billions...... Saw a video about track and trace and PPE to do with that and no proper tendering not sure the validity or accuracy but was quite damning even if only a small percentage was accurare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I agree . She hasn't articulated her thoughts well enough. Publishing an exit strategy would be a start The SG is working on one. The challenge is it won't have the guts to do a proper one, wait till the WM one is published, with slight nuances and it will be a feck up. Edited February 12, 2021 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Inglis Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, mrmarkus1981 said: Ive been compliant from the start, working from home, following all the rules and guidelines. If this turn out to be true then i'm chucking it, they can ram it as far as i'm concerned. Of course i'll wear masks and whatnot but i'll be going to see my family That's where I'm at as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Taffin said: Ah, eat out to help out. Halcyon days, really enjoyed making the most of that. That said, I don't remember it coming with an order or a gun to the head to use it. Same as at Christmas, 'Boris killed everyone'...by suggesting they take decisions based on risk in their circumstances. This whole thing has made me realise that it's not just authoritarian government that want to control people, so many people seem to actually want, and more frighteningly, need, the government to do their thinking, hold their hand and wipe their arse for them. Staggering. Yeah I enjoyed it too . Like you can’t recall a gun to my head to go out to enjoy it . I do recall the great control measures pubs and restaurants had to limit transmission and yet they still got a kick in the balls 🏀 that’s been one of the most shameful things about all if this , the vilification of the hospitality industry . It does make me wonder if there is an undercurrent of derision of drinking by the Govt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Congratulations to Wales who are the first nation to hit the first major target of offering a first dose to all over 70s. They now hope to vaccinate these people of the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Pfizer n Biotech blokey says yon two jab thingy should be no more than 6 weeks apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The chickens from the Barnett Consequential farm are now coming home to roost. However funny you THOUGHT that was as you constructed it in your head is actually how CRINGEWORTHY it is to read as an attempt at humour. Just saying likesay. 😉 Edited February 12, 2021 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Scotland bottom of the home nations vaccine league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: However funny you THOUGHT that was as you constructed it in your head is actually how CRINGEWORTHY it is to read as an attempt at humour. Just saying likesay. 😉 We need more , constructive criticism like that imo. It was actually right off the cuff, no thought involved. Every audience has at least one humourless heckler though😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Barack said: "The Times leads on a plan being considered by ministers to keep social distancing restrictions in place until at least the autumn. The newspaper understands the government's route out of lockdown is based on the assumption that people will have to wear face masks and remain a metre apart for months." Never had the Times down to have their inside information correct before, during Covid-19. Assumption. Being the mother of all ****-up's, I believe...? Too many assumptions been made throughout the last year. Blunt force instruments to remove all risk. Given it took the govt and scientists months to recommend then mandate mask wearing and, even then, they weren't convinced, why do they expect us to be wearing them in autumn? I would expect to be burning my masks, well before the height of summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yeah I enjoyed it too . Like you can’t recall a gun to my head to go out to enjoy it . I do recall the great control measures pubs and restaurants had to limit transmission and yet they still got a kick in the balls 🏀 that’s been one of the most shameful things about all if this , the vilification of the hospitality industry . It does make me wonder if there is an undercurrent of derision of drinking by the Govt I also enjoyed it. All of the bars/pubs/resteraunts I was in had great measures in place (barring a couple pubs who didn't care!) and as I'm a bit of a lazy *******, loved table service 😂 Hospitality industry does seem to have unjustly taking the brunt of this tbf. I certainly agree with that. Even in December I was at my new local doing some work and having lunch as no beer was allowed but not allowed to even do that seems very harsh. Especially now with cases so low. Again, I've mentioned it before but I believe they should be open in some capacity from march. Possibly food only again. It's still shit but it's needed. Primarily because of the errors made last year have meant we need to go hard now which has been debated to death tbf. Do I think there's an undercurrent? Not really but I do think they've attacked a walnut with a sledgehammer a bit. Pubs and definitely pub gardens in time for the summer. That's my uneducated guess and I just hope we have the weather for it 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yeah I enjoyed it too . Like you can’t recall a gun to my head to go out to enjoy it . I do recall the great control measures pubs and restaurants had to limit transmission and yet they still got a kick in the balls 🏀 that’s been one of the most shameful things about all if this , the vilification of the hospitality industry . It does make me wonder if there is an undercurrent of derision of drinking by the Govt . Edited February 12, 2021 by LMc Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Scotland bottom of the home nations vaccine league And on take up levels when we get to target dates? Wales claim to be top now but are 20% behind on care home take up, England, 16. England have 4 days to find, contact, jag 1.5m over 70s. Edited February 12, 2021 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: We need more , constructive criticism like that imo. It was actually right off the cuff, no thought involved. Every audience has at least one humourless heckler though😎 I just don't think that kind of stuff is a good fit for you pal, that's all. You've got the 'barmy libertarian' thing almost perfected now, leave this type of non-humour to the creepy wee Star Wars hard nut. 😊 Edited February 12, 2021 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yeah I enjoyed it too . Like you can’t recall a gun to my head to go out to enjoy it . I do recall the great control measures pubs and restaurants had to limit transmission and yet they still got a kick in the balls 🏀 that’s been one of the most shameful things about all if this , the vilification of the hospitality industry . It does make me wonder if there is an undercurrent of derision of drinking by the Govt . Edited February 12, 2021 by LMc Triple post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, LMc said: I also enjoyed it. All of the bars/pubs/resteraunts I was in had great measures in place (barring a couple pubs who didn't care!) and as I'm a bit of a lazy *******, loved table service 😂 Hospitality industry does seem to have unjustly taking the brunt of this tbf. I certainly agree with that. Even in December I was at my new local doing some work and having lunch as no beer was allowed but not allowed to even do that seems very harsh. Especially now with cases so low. Again, I've mentioned it before but I believe they should be open in some capacity from march. Possibly food only again. It's still shit but it's needed. Primarily because of the errors made last year have meant we need to go hard now which has been debated to death tbf. Do I think there's an undercurrent? Not really but I do think they've attacked a walnut with a sledgehammer a bit. Pubs and definitely pub gardens in time for the summer. That's my uneducated guess and I just hope we have the weather for it 👍 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Ah, eat out to help out. Halcyon days, really enjoyed making the most of that. That said, I don't remember it coming with an order or a gun to the head to use it. Same as at Christmas, 'Boris killed everyone'...by suggesting they take decisions based on risk in their circumstances. This whole thing has made me realise that it's not just authoritarian government that want to control people, so many people seem to actually want, and more frighteningly, need, the government to do their thinking, hold their hand and wipe their arse for them. Staggering. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 06/02/2021 at 14:55, manaliveits105 said: FFS are people really desperate to be worst in the world so they can moan about the toaries - unbelievably sad . 18 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Scotland bottom of the home nations vaccine league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I just don't think that kind of stuff is a good fit for you pal, that's all. You've got the 'barmy libertarian' thing almost perfected now, leave this type of non-humour to the creepy wee Star Wars hard nut. 😊 Still got a chubby for the big fella I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 vaccines not deaths smarty pants bbc were reporting on radio we were bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: vaccines not deaths smarty pants bbc were reporting on radio we were bottom Scotland is top of the last 7 day average, per 100k population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: vaccines not deaths smarty pants bbc were reporting on radio we were bottom Not like the BBC to tell lies and run Scotland down. How odd.. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If the season finishes now we are down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) The UK's vaccine procurement policy has been a huge boon for all the nations of the UK. I have no doubt that given a choice Nicola would have been an enthusiastic supporter of the EU joint procurement scheme Edited February 12, 2021 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: The self loathing oozes from him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 64,881 vaccines yesterday, another daily record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: If you are counting first doses, NI are bottom, if you are counting vaccinated as being both doses then Wales are bottom. It is only if you count both first and second dose figures that Scotland are bottom, which makes no sense at all. The differences between the different UK nations are trivial compared to the huge gulf between all of them and most of the rest of the world. The EU isn't even in a relegation place ... it isn't in the same league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 65 to 69 year olds and PEOPLE WITH UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS are next Jean as Health Minister you would think you might have remembered that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Hi stalkie hyah pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Barack said: Drakeford's "ideal" medium to long-term view on lifting restrictions are...to paraphrase: Back to where we were last Summer. Where things were open. Pubs, restaurants etc. People were going on holiday,(didn't mention foreign travel..but people were going abroad) even though masks were still being worn on public transport and in crowded areas. If things stay as they are, he hopes restrictions are lifted enough that it makes a significant difference in people's lives, by Easter. Sounds promising👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Barack said: Drakeford's "ideal" medium to long-term view on lifting restrictions are...to paraphrase: Back to where we were last Summer. Where things were open. Pubs, restaurants etc. People were going on holiday,(didn't mention foreign travel..but people were going abroad) even though masks were still being worn on public transport and in crowded areas. If things stay as they are, he hopes restrictions are lifted enough that it makes a significant difference in people's lives, by Easter. Can we put a bid in for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 More people going into ICU last week compared to week before. Easing restrictions might be a bit away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) Did Drakeford warn of reduced vaccines due to supplies slowing down ? The SG seems to be worried about it http://alltvspots.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/specsavers_clown_advert.jpg Edited February 12, 2021 by manaliveits105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, manaliveits105 said: Did Drakeford warn of reduced vaccines due to supplies slowing down ? The SG seems to be worried about it http://alltvspots.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/specsavers_clown_advert.jpg Freeman has said that is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: The UK's vaccine procurement policy has been a huge boon for all the nations of the UK. I have no doubt that given a choice Nicola would have been an enthusiastic supporter of the EU joint procurement scheme In another embarrassment to the EU, Hungary is today to start to administer the Russian Sputnik V vaccine. https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/12/hungary-to-begin-using-russia-s-sputnik-v-vaccine-today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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