jackal Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: We shouldn’t be punished for that though anymore than we are for any of their many issues. No we shouldnt but I bet its the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, redjambo said: Interesting to see all the anti-SNP political acolytes on here falling over themselves to take advantage and try to motivate folk to switch away from voting away from the SNP. I sincerely hope that when everyone comes to vote at the next election, they take each party's complete manifesto into account rather than basing their decisions on the mobilised hatred of one decision. Unless we're all going down the US political road nowadays... Sadly that is exactly the way we are going. Not just in politics but as a society, just look at the Celtic fans overreaction to a few defeats, that wouldn't have happened 5-10 years ago. For another thread though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: Interesting to see all the anti-SNP political acolytes on here falling over themselves to take advantage and try to motivate folk to switch away from voting away from the SNP. I sincerely hope that when everyone comes to vote at the next election, they take each party's complete manifesto into account rather than basing their decisions on the mobilised hatred of one decision. Unless we're all going down the US political road nowadays... No, don't hate her for 1 decision. She lied to parliament about Salmond enquiry, her government have failed in education with a creaking system rattling downhill, while Swinney rolls a dice before making next move. We have a health secretary that says one thing, then three hours later says something different, we have SNP Westminster leader trying to stir up anti English feelings by making ludicrous accusations whilst not forgetting SNP MP deciding rules not for people like her. Also can't wait to railroad us back into EU, despite it falling apart. Just one more. Their economic plan for independence. They still don't have one, and I don't fancy sacrificing my own kids, and the youth of today's futures, on a wing and a prayer. Waving a Scottish flag chanting Freedom, isn't persuasive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, frankblack said: I've done that successfully in Edinburgh West by going Lib Dem. Same here, but they pissed me off before the last election so I voted Tory for the first time ever. Not that it made any difference to the outcome, but it made me feel better. I can't understand why people pick a political party like a football team and have to stick with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said: Just look at the Celtic fans overreaction to a few defeats, that wouldn't have happened 5-10 years ago. For another thread though. It would've to some degree or other, but there would've been less social media for you to read about it or watch videos of it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Seriously, Edinburgh remains in tier 3 because Celtic and Rangers supporters can't be trusted to stay in the shit holes they live in. Tremendous, Edinburgh residents follow rules but get no reward as scum from West can't behave. Sounds fair. What a ****ing country we live in. and to back that up a Labour MSP for the SW said today that there were hoards weegies coming from Glasgow to do shopping and go to restaurants and bars. Sturgeons answer was to speak to the Chief Constable about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said: Stop talking shite. Edinburgh has been in Tier 3 when Glasgow was in Tier 4. Simple reasoning really. Availability of alcohol isn't much different between 3 and 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is safe and effective, giving good protection, researchers have confirmed in The Lancet journal. Most in the study were younger than 55, but the results so far indicate it does work well in older people too. The data also suggest it can reduce spread of Covid, as well protect against illness and death. The paper, assessed by independent scientists, sets out full results from advanced trials of over 20,000 people. Regulators, who will have seen the same data, are considering the jab for emergency use. But there are still important questions about what dose to give, as well as who it will protect. When the interim trial results were made public in a press release about a fortnight ago, the researchers reported three efficacy levels for the vaccine - an overall effectiveness of 70%, a lower one of 62% and a high of 90%. That's because different doses of the vaccine were mistakenly used in one part of the trial. Some volunteers were given shots that were half the planned strength in error. Yet that "wrong" dose turned out to be a winner. Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine 'dosing error' explained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 And focusing on more encouraging news. https://apple.news/ANzOLRbMvSFSMP2pSwvckqg COVID 19: Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine is safe and effective, independent analysis finds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Nucky Thompson said: Same here, but they pissed me off before the last election so I voted Tory for the first time ever. Not that it made any difference to the outcome, but it made me feel better. I used to be a hand-wringing lefty whinger and wondered why I was angry all of the time, but now I'm a Tory I feel great. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: It would've to some degree or other, but there would've been less social media for you to read about it or watch videos of it on. Chicken and egg for me. Sad, fat middle aged men sitting in their houses with their balaclava's and khaki jackets on getting the piss taken out of them on Twitter and Facebook and they can't handle it. They're more upset that they are getting slaughtered on social media and don't have the wit or brain cells to deal with it than they are about the football results. Not that they'll ever admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I used to be a hand-wringing lefty whinger and wondered why I was angry all of the time, but now I'm a Tory I feel great. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Chicken and egg for me. Sad, fat middle aged men sitting in their houses with their balaclava's and khaki jackets on getting the piss taken out of them on Twitter and Facebook and they can't handle it. They're more upset that they are getting slaughtered on social media and don't have the wit or brain cells to deal with it than they are about the football results. Not that they'll ever admit it. All fair points. Social media allows the loonies to connect and mobilise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: We shouldn’t be punished for that though anymore than we are for any of their many issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenaciousdandy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, graygo said: Mum's part is illegal, daughter part is ok. Hope that helps. I'll be able to do it a sa 3rd bubble over all districts when they relax tje restrictions over the Christmas period, tbh Edinburgh should be in level 2 by then anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Edinburgh in Tier 2 after Christmas / New Year then. Or maybe the January sales will be too big a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I used to be a hand-wringing lefty whinger and wondered why I was angry all of the time, but now I'm a Tory I feel great. 👍 With the pubs still shut and being a champagne socialist it’s horrendous. Plenty dough but can’t spend it. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Edinburgh in Tier 2 after Christmas / New Year then. Or maybe the January sales will be too big a risk. Risky to drop a tier after the new year sales as people will be shopping for Easter eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Stop it I feel bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Noticing this is a fair bit today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, theshed said: Risky to drop a tier after the new year sales as people will be shopping for Easter eggs Then it's warmer weather. And then festival season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, graygo said: Mum's part is illegal, daughter part is ok. Hope that helps. Crazy world we live in that it’s now deemed “illegal “ to deliver Christmas presents to your parents house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: With the pubs still shut and being a champagne socialist it’s horrendous. Plenty dough but can’t spend it. 😉 Rather a champagne socialist than a champagne anarchist, TRM. Sundowners all-round at the ROSL when this is all over, old chap. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, theshed said: Risky to drop a tier after the new year sales as people will be shopping for Easter eggs Probably be fine in April/May though so that Glasgow can host the Scottish cup in tier 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Read it and weep ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: But it's not political, just dealing in cold hard FACTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Edinburgh in Tier 2 after Christmas / New Year then. Or maybe the January sales will be too big a risk. Thats fantasy Island I am afraid. There will be a full or near full lockdown due to the Xmas restrictions being relaxed. Come on you didnt think you would get to actually have a relaxing fun time at Xmas without having to pay for it did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, gjcc said: Probably be fine in April/May though so that Glasgow can host the Scottish cup in tier 0. Or for canvassing or am I being a bit over dramatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Read it and weep ffs No crisps-crushing for you for another week at least. You never know, there might be a bit of a backlash from this and the erm, 'other considerations' might support a move to tier 2 next week. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, redjambo said: Interesting to see all the anti-SNP political acolytes on here falling over themselves to take advantage and try to motivate folk to switch away from voting away from the SNP. I sincerely hope that when everyone comes to vote at the next election, they take each party's complete manifesto into account rather than basing their decisions on the mobilised hatred of one decision. Unless we're all going down the US political road nowadays... Oh, note that our wonderful education secretary has now decided to cancel Higher exams on 2021, despite him saying the exact opposite less than 2 months ago. That has allowed some schools to have already scheduled and had pre lims and wasted time and effort in doing so, while other schools haven't and won't have to bother. The guy is clueless, a walking contradiction to his job title, and is only there due to his loyalty to NS and backing of SNP lite party. This was first big test for SNP, governing the country in pandemic was always going to be hard, to operate policies other than politics of grievance, and, imo, they have crashed and burned, failing to offer anything other than blaming Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Rather a champagne socialist than a champagne anarchist, TRM. Sundowners all-round at the ROSL when this is all over, old chap. 👍 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 So is Glasgow just going to replace London, as the city that matters, if we get independence. Looks very weegiecentric all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Thats fantasy Island I am afraid. There will be a full or near full lockdown due to the Xmas restrictions being relaxed. Come on you didnt think you would get to actually have a relaxing fun time at Xmas without having to pay for it did you? There will undoubtedly be a rise in the infection rates during and after the festive period, imo. I don't think it will be necessitate a national lockdown though, just some tier movements. However, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, redjambo said: There will undoubtedly be a rise in the infection rates during and after the festive period, imo. I don't think it will be necessitate a national lockdown though, just some tier movements. However, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Very true . A few weeks is a long time in politics and also pandemics....:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dano307 said: One of the lines used today for not moving Edinburgh to tier 2 for the festive period is due to the fact it's "Scotland's 2nd biggest city". So how on earth can she justify having Aberdeen (Scotland's 3rd biggest city) in tier 2 with worse numbers than us?! Do they not celebrate the festive period in Aberdeen? I know she hates admitting it, but she could refer to Edinburgh as Scotland's capital and 2nd biggest city. It really grates on her, from her refusal to live here in official residence of Bute House, to other terminology she uses, that her beloved Glasgow isn't capital and instead, is just hotbed of bigotry and shit holeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: So is Glasgow just going to replace London, as the city that matters, if we get independence. Looks very weegiecentric all this. If we ever vote for independence, rest assured Glasgow becoming Scotland's capital will be high up on their priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: Glasgow 157 Edinburgh 82 Aberdeen 80 Falkirk 71 It still shows the system used to work out the tiers is wrong somehow and Edinburgh is being punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: Are those the correct numbers? They're from the SG's covid dashboard and represent the 7-day figures up to 5 December, so they're a few days old. The figures haven't changed much in the last few days though, so comparatively they're fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, graygo said: Who will you vote for? Don't need to answer that of course just interested who you reckon would do a better job of running the country let alone the pandemic issues. I will vote for “none of the above” The whole lot of them are only in it for themselves and they certainly don’t represent me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: I will vote for “none of the above” The whole lot of them are only in it for themselves and they certainly don’t represent me. I understand that point of view completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, GinRummy said: So is Glasgow just going to replace London, as the city that matters, if we get independence. Looks very weegiecentric all this. Did you ever doubt that this would be the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, GinRummy said: So is Glasgow just going to replace London, as the city that matters, if we get independence. Looks very weegiecentric all this. What a thought l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: I will vote for “none of the above” The whole lot of them are only in it for themselves and they certainly don’t represent me. I noticed with pleasure that one of the U.S. States had this option on their ballot papers for the recent Presidential election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Thats fantasy Island I am afraid. There will be a full or near full lockdown due to the Xmas restrictions being relaxed. Come on you didnt think you would get to actually have a relaxing fun time at Xmas without having to pay for it did you? Yip - Edinburgh and Glasgow up to Tier 4 after New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: If we ever vote for independence, rest assured Glasgow becoming Scotland's capital will be high up on their priorities. No ****ing danger is that shitehole ever being made capital. We are on course to be the biggest city in the near future it seems and the after effects of Covid/Brexit on the economy will see even more people live here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, frankblack said: Yip - Edinburgh and Glasgow up to Tier 4 after New Year. Something to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Very true . A few weeks is a long time in politics and also pandemics....:) Indeed. A very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, jackal said: No we shouldnt but I bet its the reason. Certainly looks that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Something to look forward to. Haircuts all round by Xmas, should help the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: I will vote for “none of the above” The whole lot of them are only in it for themselves and they certainly don’t represent me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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