Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: I know nothing about him. Hence the reason I’ve not commented on how over or underwhelming a signing he may be. You clearly know more than just his Wikipedia profile so share your greater knowledge or stop talking about things you know nothing about to save yourself looking foolish. It's a public forum Gin. If you don't like other peoples opinions you're in the wrong place. Meanwhile I'll remain underwhelmed by signing a player for the reasons that I have already stated. Of course I will give hime 100% backing like I di with any Hearts player. Booing my own team isn't my style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said: Short term loan, direct replacement for Harring? Exactly what I was going to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I think if he comes then it shows he wants to play first team football and will work hard. He's a londoner so he ll only be coming fir the football opportunity. Those players you cite that think the Scottish pl is easy are often at the older end, last pay packet etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spoleto said: It's a public forum Gin. If you don't like other peoples opinions you're in the wrong place. Meanwhile I'll remain underwhelmed by signing a player for the reasons that I have already stated. Of course I will give hime 100% backing like I di with any Hearts player. Booing my own team isn't my style. I love other people’s opinions but when they’re based on little to nothing it’s healthy to challenge them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: I love other people’s opinions but when they’re based on little to nothing it’s healthy to challenge them. Nothing but facts, which I quoted, and opinion, which I'm entitled to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I have nothing much to add except that the name Toby reminds me of Neighbours from the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. Not being funny, but how many of your Premiership players are actually English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Nothing but facts, which I quoted, and opinion, which I'm entitled to. Of course you are. I’m just pointing out your opinion is based on nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: Of course you are. I’m just pointing out your opinion is based on nothing. Nothing but facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Spoleto said: Nothing but facts. Facts about a player you’d never previously heard of, read about, seen play or gathered opinions of others about. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, jamboj said: Really? Totally predictable comment, given which poster made it. I can recommend the ignore button Noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. The National team has a mix regarding the leagues where players perform. If anything though, the majority are based in England’s PL and Championship: David Marshall (GK) – Wigan Liam Palmer (DF) – Sheffield Wed Andy Robertson (DF) – Liverpool Kieran Tierney (DF) – Arsenal Callum Paterson (DF/MDF) – Cardiff City John McGinn (MDF) – Aston Villa Stuart Armstrong (MDF) – Southampton Scott McTominay (MDF) – Manchester United Robert Snodgrass (MDF) – West Ham United Kenny McLean (MDF) – Norwich City Ryan Fraser (MDF) – Bournemouth John Fleck (MDF) – Sheffield United Oli McBurnie (ST) – Sheffield United Edited January 24, 2020 by MattyK82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NlGHTMARE Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I like the lad, nearly every other Barnsley fan as wrote him off, he’s contributed to his own down fall by wanting to play football that much he’s gone chasing positions, he needs a role and stick at it for a season or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Swanny17 said: I have nothing much to add except that the name Toby reminds me of Neighbours from the 80's. Are you Joe Mangle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Good to know mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron79 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: I like the lad, nearly every other Barnsley fan as wrote him off, he’s contributed to his own down fall by wanting to play football that much he’s gone chasing positions, he needs a role and stick at it for a season or two. We call that the Eggert Jonsson effect but cheers for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. Do any English players actually play in the EPL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, MattyK82 said: The National team has a mix regarding the leagues where players perform. If anything though, the majority are based in England’s PL and Championship: David Marshall (GK) – Wigan Liam Palmer (DF) – Sheffield Wed Andy Robertson (DF) – Liverpool Kieran Tierney (DF) – Arsenal Callum Paterson (DF/MDF) – Cardiff City John McGinn (MDF) – Aston Villa Stuart Armstrong (MDF) – Southampton Scott McTominay (MDF) – Manchester United Robert Snodgrass (MDF) – West Ham United Kenny McLean (MDF) – Norwich City Ryan Fraser (MDF) – Bournemouth John Fleck (MDF) – Sheffield United Oli McBurnie (ST) – Sheffield United How many of those started the last qualifiers as I m sure there were more from Scottish teams. I am willing to stand corrected though as you obviously all know far more than me about your country's football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sertse said: Do any English players actually play in the EPL? Off the top of my head Rashford, Mountford, Maguire, Henderson, Pickkford, Sterling, Abraham, Stones, all in England squad and in PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Of course you are. I’m just pointing out your opinion is based on nothing. Nothing but facts and opinion you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Facts about a player you’d never previously heard of, read about, seen play or gathered opinions of others about. I know. No Ginny, Facts like he's played the majority of his low number of games in League 1 and facts like he can't get a game for his own team, and fcntl like he is only 20 and not played at a high level. And now thanks to a poster above, the fact that his own supporters don'r rate him. You know, those kinds of facts. So I'll continue to remain uninspired by this signing. Thanks all the same 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Redhelen said: Off the top of my head Rashford, Mountford, Maguire, Henderson, Pickkford, Sterling, Abraham, Stones, all in England squad and in PL. Plus Trent Alexander Arnold, Kyle Walker, Harry Kane, Dele Ali, Joe Gomez, Ben Chilwell, James Maddison, Alex Oxlade Chamberlin, Tyron Mings, Danny Rose, Calum Hudson Odoi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 9 hours ago, StevenNaismith said: Believe it or not but Halkett was recommended to Hearts as a youngster as a striker but he ended up at Ibrox. 9 hours ago, 1874robbo said: I know he was a striker years ago. is he not still one of our top scorers this season? Halkett played up front and scored when Rangers beat Hearts on penalties in the 2014 Youth Cup final. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27403333 Top scorer with 5 this season all in Cup games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Brighton Jambo said: Plus Trent Alexander Arnold, Kyle Walker, Harry Kane, Dele Ali, Joe Gomez, Ben Chilwell, James Maddison, Alex Oxlade Chamberlin, Tyron Mings, Danny Rose, Calum Hudson Odoi, Those were next on my list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Spoleto said: No Ginny, Facts like he's played the majority of his low number of games in League 1 and facts like he can't get a game for his own team, and fcntl like he is only 20 and not played at a high level. And now thanks to a poster above, the fact that his own supporters don'r rate him. You know, those kinds of facts. So I'll continue to remain uninspired by this signing. Thanks all the same 🙂 What do you mean no. You know nothing about him other than he’s played a good number of games in League 1 and the Championship despite only being 20 years old. is this the post you refer to where NIGHTMARE says he likes him. Did you deliberately miss that part out. 16 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: I like the lad, nearly every other Barnsley fan as wrote him off, he’s contributed to his own down fall by wanting to play football that much he’s gone chasing positions, he needs a role and stick at it for a season or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Good option. We need cover for centre half. And the defensive midfield option where we are short. Stendel rates him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Halkett played up front and scored when Rangers beat Hearts on penalties in the 2014 Youth Cup final. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27403333 Top scorer with 5 this season all in Cup games. I was at the youth cup final he played at centre half it was Gallagher who was upfront for rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Redhelen said: How many of those started the last qualifiers as I m sure there were more from Scottish teams. I am willing to stand corrected though as you obviously all know far more than me about your country's football In the most recent qualifiers, both of which Scotland won, there probably were more Scottish based players in the starting line ups. However, the reason being a number of the EPL players who would likely start couldn’t play due to injury. If anything, by Scotland winning these matches, without a number of regular starters, it showed the standard of football in Scotland isn’t as bad as is commonly thought south of the border 👍🏼 This Argument is strengthened by the fact a number of players who were originally based in Scotland have gone into flourish in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldreekie1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Spoleto said: No Ginny, Facts like he's played the majority of his low number of games in League 1 and facts like he can't get a game for his own team, and fcntl like he is only 20 and not played at a high level. And now thanks to a poster above, the fact that his own supporters don'r rate him. You know, those kinds of facts. So I'll continue to remain uninspired by this signing. Thanks all the same 🙂 Spoleto Not one of the sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What do you mean no. You know nothing about him other than he’s played a good number of games in League 1 and the Championship despite only being 20 years old. is this the post you refer to where NIGHTMARE says he likes him. Did you deliberately miss that part out. No Ginny, I chose to concentrate on his comment "nearly every other Barnsley fan has wrote him off" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Spoleto said: No Ginny, I chose to concentrate on his comment "nearly every other Barnsley fan has wrote him off" I know you did because you’d already made up your mind after your extensive research on Wikipedia 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazinho88 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: I know you did because you’d already made up your mind after your extensive research on Wikipedia 😂😂😂 I don't know why anyone still bothers with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I know you did because you’d already made up your mind after your extensive research from Craig Levein 😂😂😂 FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, dazinho88 said: I don't know why anyone still bothers with him Saves me reading Wikipedia for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory78 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. Majority of the Scotland starters are from the EPL - Robertson Mctominay McGinn McBurnie Armstrong Fraser Tierney Fleck McLean etc etc then add some Celtic and a player or two from Hearts Kilmarnock and Jack at Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: I was at the youth cup final he played at centre half it was Gallagher who was upfront for rangers Yeah. Fair enough. But when he scored Halkett was playing up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 A certain James Dunne had only played for Barrow and Accrington Stanley before joining us on loan....and the level he’d played didn’t stop him being outstanding for us. Can we make it a new rule on kickback that you can’t write a player off unless a) you have personally seen them play extensively and know everything about them b) have played at least 10 games for hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Off the top of my head Rashford, Mountford, Maguire, Henderson, Pickkford, Sterling, Abraham, Stones, all in England squad and in PL. Judging the standard of a league based on their national team is a bit pointless. The fact remains the majority of English fans and "experts" wrongly judge the standard of Scottish football when in reality the standard of the MAJORITY of English football is very little different, despite the money spent on very average players. Anyway we're getting off topic (which happens a lot on here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What do you mean no. You know nothing about him other than he’s played a good number of games in League 1 and the Championship despite only being 20 years old. is this the post you refer to where NIGHTMARE says he likes him. Did you deliberately miss that part out. You do know you're debating with a Hiibs troll ? he's been outed frequently , disappears for a few days then reappears chatting the same old Shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spoleto said: No Ginny, I chose to concentrate on his comment "nearly every other Barnsley fan has wrote him off" Which in reality means "me and a couple of my mates in the pub" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 In James Blunt I trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, ramrod said: You do know you're debating with a Hiibs troll ? he's been outed frequently , disappears for a few days then reappears chatting the same old Shite Disappears for a few days when we get the odd half decent result. I know mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Hopefully see more footballing imposters exit our club this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, Redhelen said: Also not being funny but have you seen the way your national team plays and that's mostly players from the SPFL. It really isnt up to Premiership standard. Which nation? We have many represented on this board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: Disappears for a few days when we get the odd half decent result. I know mate. Yep I believe the sneaked a win against Hamilton during the week 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Nothing but facts and opinion you mean. How about this for a fact. You still haven't had the bottle to explain to me why you called me a liar, you did a runner. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, ramrod said: Yep I believe the sneaked a win against Hamilton during the week 😜 Haha. Nothing from him last weekend but you watch if we get beat on Sunday he’ll be absolutely prolific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Redhelen said: Got a lot of stick from sections of the crowd at Oakwelk, became a bit of a whipping boy which I felt was unfair, we had an entirely new to the championship back line and they were all struggling to find their feet. Personally I think he played better when he was shifted forward. Looking at the standard of Scottish football I'm sure he could do well for you and from his pov playing every week will be better than warming the bench. He also was part if the AFC Wimbledon team that escaped relegation last season despite most predicting them to go down, so he should be up for the fight 42 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said: I like the lad, nearly every other Barnsley fan as wrote him off, he’s contributed to his own down fall by wanting to play football that much he’s gone chasing positions, he needs a role and stick at it for a season or two. Thanks for your thoughts on the boy. Appreciated 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Both guys that have come in are only on 6 months deals. Hopefully we have an option to get them for longer if they turn out to be decent additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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