The January Transfer Window Super Thread

[GinRummy]

26 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Joel should have been sent back. 

 

Sievers will have good knowledge of the German leagues. We probably could have sourced a loan deal there to have someone who I don't know.. can actually save shots.

 

Bit disappointed on that front, but we do have a striker that can actually put the ball in the net at long last so I'll temper my complaints   

Doyle and Bobby underperform and are error prone. Pereira just can’t make simple saves. It’s a bad situation. 

[Famous 1874]

Any free agent goalies?

Need one in ASAP. That ***** is costing us goals every week 

[OTT]

12 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said:

Any free agent goalies?

Need one in ASAP. That ***** is costing us goals every week 

 

Viviano is probably the best of the lot currently available - 6 italy caps so obviously competent. 

 

Worth making contact IMO. Joel is god awful.  

[rudi must stay]

20 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Viviano is probably the best of the lot currently available - 6 italy caps so obviously competent. 

 

Worth making contact IMO. Joel is god awful.  

 

Cos he's waiting on our call right enough 

[Irufushi]

4 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

 

Cos he's waiting on our call right enough 

😂

[OTT]

4 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

 

Cos he's waiting on our call right enough 

 

Cos if you don't ask they're just going to know you want them right enough

[Arthur Morgan]

4 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Cos if you don't ask they're just going to know you want them right enough

 

Tbf they probably have their agent contacting clubs he would be interested in joining. 

[rudi must stay]

5 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Cos if you don't ask they're just going to know you want them right enough

 

Viviano was a phenomenal keeper, one of the very best. He has his feet up after a great career and well done to him

[Bongo 1874]

As I said in my post this morning, I'm now ready to tell you what happened last night and why we didn't get Thiam. 

 

At lunch time yesterday Hearts and Barnsley had agreed to let Thiam come to us on Loan. 

 

Rotherham United then came in with a loan offer to take Thiam, they had offered to pay Barnsley a higher percentage of his wages, Hearts matched this. 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/rotherham-united-battling-to-sign-in-demand-championship-winger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwia7_rOo7HnAhXFUhUIHWjIDzwQFjAAegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw3A172aUpF-4kXrr8vdNJO2&ampcf=1

 

From there Barnsley tried to play both clubs against each other, to see who was going to pay the highest percentage of his wages.

 

At this point Rotherham withdrew their interest, and at that point Hearts withdrew their loan interest aswell. 

 

The reason why Barnsley tried to play both clubs off against one another, they were trying to get as much wages as possible to bring in a defender. 

 

The reason why they needed a defender was to replace Bambo Diaby, as he failed a drugs test and is subject to an investigation, he has been suspended from Barnsley from first team playing duties for the time being. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/bambo-diaby-suspended-by-barnsley-as-fa-investigates-drugs-test-1-10215636/amp&ved=2ahUKEwj-gcy2qbHnAhW4RhUIHRidCMgQFjAfegQIDBAF&usg=AOvVaw3NrFDZ3DTYNAiP-F9LL6yz&ampcf=1 

 

Barnsley did bring in a defender from St mirren but that wasn't the one they originally wanted , he will link up with the U23 squad. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51327071&ved=2ahUKEwjrlKXMrbHnAhXMUBUIHf4JALYQFjAAegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw1YtzpBV81f02d0JMiuKWDm&ampcf=1

 

Later on that night Hearts got back in touch and asked if a deal could be made, Barnsley weren't prepared to back down from there original loan stance, so Hearts made an offer to buy Thiam outright, the first offer was declined they went back in with a second offer and that was declined too. 

 

The player was desperate to come to Hearts, and was more than happy to hook back up with Stendel and with virtually everything agreed, as you can see Barnsley then started playing hardball, and the outcome was no deal. 

 

Now I will put this to posters for those that want to do detective work and for me to prove my credibility, I will put this name to you Dominic Samuel, a name I mentioned yesterday as one of the back up options,

 

now there is very clever posters on here that know how to check this stuff back, if you check the last article that was done on Dominic Samuel was done by not the old firm on the 12th of January. 

 

If you check back all the Edinburgh Evening news articles from then, you will see his name doesn't even get brought into any article from the 10th of January. 

 

Here was my reply yesterday to a poster. 

Bongo 1874   

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Posted yesterday at 15:31

  On 31/01/2020 at 15:30, Gav M said:

any idea who the back up plan is if it falls through?

Dominic Samuel is an option along with a few others. 

 

 

 

Now here's an article on transfer updates from the Edinburgh Evening News, yesterday at 5pm guess who's name is in it?  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-5pm-transfer-update-latest-mamadou-thiam-conor-washington-and-christophe-berra-1381954%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj11byQsbHnAhVnQxUIHTaXBJUQyM8BMAB6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1S5GtQw8ozrnz-rIoFY5_d&ampcf=1 

 

Never one mention about Dominic Samuel all week, but guess who barry boy decided to put in his article. 

 

This happens on numerous occasions not just on the posts I have posted up, but other posters as well, the guy is just a complete bum in fact all of them are I wouldn't trust any of them. 

 

I could go on but there you have it folks have a good night cmon the Hearts. 

 

Cheers Bongo 1874.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Bongo 1874

[Pagey]

3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

As I said in my post this morning, I'm now ready to tell you what happened last night and why we didn't get Thiam. 

 

At lunch time yesterday Hearts and Barnsley had agreed to let Thiam come to us on Loan. 

 

Rotherham United then came in with a loan offer to take Thiam, they had offered to pay Barnsley a higher percentage of his wages, Hearts matched this. 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/rotherham-united-battling-to-sign-in-demand-championship-winger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwia7_rOo7HnAhXFUhUIHWjIDzwQFjAAegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw3A172aUpF-4kXrr8vdNJO2&ampcf=1

 

From there Barnsley tried to play both clubs against each other, to see who was going to pay the highest percentage of his wages.

 

At this point Rotherham withdrew their interest, and at that point Hearts withdraw there loan interest aswell. 

 

The reason why Barnsley tried to play both clubs off against one another, they were trying to get as much wages as possible to bring in a defender. 

 

The reason why they needed a defender was to replace Bambo Diaby, as he failed a drugs test and is subject to an investigation, he has been suspended from Barnsley from first team playing duties for the time being. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/bambo-diaby-suspended-by-barnsley-as-fa-investigates-drugs-test-1-10215636/amp&ved=2ahUKEwj-gcy2qbHnAhW4RhUIHRidCMgQFjAfegQIDBAF&usg=AOvVaw3NrFDZ3DTYNAiP-F9LL6yz&ampcf=1 

 

Barnsley did bring in a defender from St mirren but that wasn't the one they originally wanted , he will link up with the U23 squad. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51327071&ved=2ahUKEwjrlKXMrbHnAhXMUBUIHf4JALYQFjAAegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw1YtzpBV81f02d0JMiuKWDm&ampcf=1

 

Later on that night Hearts got back in touch and asked if a deal could be made, Barnsley weren't prepared to back down from there original loan stance, so Hearts made an offer to buy Thiam outright, the first offer was declined they went back in with a second offer and that was declined too. 

 

The player was desperate to come to Hearts, and was more than happy to hook back up with Stendel and with virtually everything agreed, as you can see Barnsley then started playing hardball, and the outcome was no deal. 

 

Now I will put this to posters for those that want to do decteive work and for me to prove my credibility, I will put this name to you Dominic Samuel, a name I mentioned yesterday as one of the back up options,

 

now there is very clever posters on here that know how to check this stuff back, if you check the last article that was done on Dominic Samuel was done by not the old firm on the 12th of January. 

 

If you check back all the Edinburgh Evening news articles from then, you will see his name doesn't even get brought into any article from the 10th of January. 

 

Here was my reply yesterday to a poster. 

Bongo 1874   

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Posted yesterday at 15:31

  On 31/01/2020 at 15:30, Gav M said:

any idea who the back up plan is if it falls through?

Dominic Samuel is an option along with a few others. 

 

 

 

Now here's an article on transfer updates from the Edinburgh Evening News, yesterday at 5pm guess who's name is in it?  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-5pm-transfer-update-latest-mamadou-thiam-conor-washington-and-christophe-berra-1381954%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj11byQsbHnAhVnQxUIHTaXBJUQyM8BMAB6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1S5GtQw8ozrnz-rIoFY5_d&ampcf=1 

 

Never one mention about Dominic Samuel all week, but guess who barry boy decided to put in his article. 

 

This happens on numerous occasions not just on the posts I have posted up, but other posters as well, the guy is just a complete bum in fact all of them are I wouldn't trust any of them. 

 

I could go on but there you have it folks have a good night cmon the Hearts. 

 

Cheers Bongo 1874.

Thanks Bongo, any chat if we were in for a keeper (Gordon or otherwise) and are we looking to free agents now the window is over, or is it pre contracts for the summer?

 

appreciate your updates. 

[Bongo 1874]

11 hours ago, AndyNic said:

 

Cheers Barry 👍🏼

No problem James 👍. 

[OTT]

@Bongo 1874 Interesting post, don't want to quote it because I'm fairly certain clogging up the page with quotes isn't appreciated  

 

Barnsley seem an extraordinarily difficult club to deal with. Hopefully we can go back in for Thiam in the summer if Stendel is that keen. 

 

Did we end up coughing up for Stendel or his assistants in the end? I ask because it seems like the Barnsley owner is petty enough to cut his nose off to spite his face and refuse to do any business with us until that is settled. Obviously we've now got the assistant plus Sibbick so thinking that situation must be done now?

[Alex Kintner]

Cheers @Bongo 1874 👍🏻

[AndyNic]

11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

No problem James 👍. 

 

Just a wee light hearted joke mate

[Newton51]

25 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

As I said in my post this morning, I'm now ready to tell you what happened last night and why we didn't get Thiam. 

 

At lunch time yesterday Hearts and Barnsley had agreed to let Thiam come to us on Loan. 

 

Rotherham United then came in with a loan offer to take Thiam, they had offered to pay Barnsley a higher percentage of his wages, Hearts matched this. 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/rotherham-united-battling-to-sign-in-demand-championship-winger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwia7_rOo7HnAhXFUhUIHWjIDzwQFjAAegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw3A172aUpF-4kXrr8vdNJO2&ampcf=1

 

From there Barnsley tried to play both clubs against each other, to see who was going to pay the highest percentage of his wages.

 

At this point Rotherham withdrew their interest, and at that point Hearts withdrew their loan interest aswell. 

 

The reason why Barnsley tried to play both clubs off against one another, they were trying to get as much wages as possible to bring in a defender. 

 

The reason why they needed a defender was to replace Bambo Diaby, as he failed a drugs test and is subject to an investigation, he has been suspended from Barnsley from first team playing duties for the time being. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/bambo-diaby-suspended-by-barnsley-as-fa-investigates-drugs-test-1-10215636/amp&ved=2ahUKEwj-gcy2qbHnAhW4RhUIHRidCMgQFjAfegQIDBAF&usg=AOvVaw3NrFDZ3DTYNAiP-F9LL6yz&ampcf=1 

 

Barnsley did bring in a defender from St mirren but that wasn't the one they originally wanted , he will link up with the U23 squad. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51327071&ved=2ahUKEwjrlKXMrbHnAhXMUBUIHf4JALYQFjAAegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw1YtzpBV81f02d0JMiuKWDm&ampcf=1

 

Later on that night Hearts got back in touch and asked if a deal could be made, Barnsley weren't prepared to back down from there original loan stance, so Hearts made an offer to buy Thiam outright, the first offer was declined they went back in with a second offer and that was declined too. 

 

The player was desperate to come to Hearts, and was more than happy to hook back up with Stendel and with virtually everything agreed, as you can see Barnsley then started playing hardball, and the outcome was no deal. 

 

Now I will put this to posters for those that want to do detective work and for me to prove my credibility, I will put this name to you Dominic Samuel, a name I mentioned yesterday as one of the back up options,

 

now there is very clever posters on here that know how to check this stuff back, if you check the last article that was done on Dominic Samuel was done by not the old firm on the 12th of January. 

 

If you check back all the Edinburgh Evening news articles from then, you will see his name doesn't even get brought into any article from the 10th of January. 

 

Here was my reply yesterday to a poster. 

Bongo 1874   

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Posted yesterday at 15:31

  On 31/01/2020 at 15:30, Gav M said:

any idea who the back up plan is if it falls through?

Dominic Samuel is an option along with a few others. 

 

 

 

Now here's an article on transfer updates from the Edinburgh Evening News, yesterday at 5pm guess who's name is in it?  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-5pm-transfer-update-latest-mamadou-thiam-conor-washington-and-christophe-berra-1381954%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj11byQsbHnAhVnQxUIHTaXBJUQyM8BMAB6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1S5GtQw8ozrnz-rIoFY5_d&ampcf=1 

 

Never one mention about Dominic Samuel all week, but guess who barry boy decided to put in his article. 

 

This happens on numerous occasions not just on the posts I have posted up, but other posters as well, the guy is just a complete bum in fact all of them are I wouldn't trust any of them. 

 

I could go on but there you have it folks have a good night cmon the Hearts. 

 

Cheers Bongo 1874.

thanks for the updates. Great info especially the details. I wasn’t convinced Barnsley would play ball with the animosity they have already shown us. Thiam could be a player for next season but more worried about the defence and the keeper. Did you not say before there was a story that you would give more information 

[Bongo 1874]

3 minutes ago, OTT said:

@Bongo 1874 Interesting post, don't want to quote it because I'm fairly certain clogging up the page with quotes isn't appreciated  

 

Barnsley seem an extraordinarily difficult club to deal with. Hopefully we can go back in for Thiam in the summer if Stendel is that keen. 

 

Did we end up coughing up for Stendel or his assistants in the end? I ask because it seems like the Barnsley owner is petty enough to cut his nose off to spite his face and refuse to do any business with us until that is settled. Obviously we've now got the assistant plus Sibbick so thinking that situation must be done now?

I don't know all the ins and outs of that mate, I only know what's been reported and what has been said on here in regards Stendel and his assistants. what I can tell you we were after a player from Barnsley called Jordan Green, motherwell were interested and Newport here's what happened 

 

Bongo 1874   

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Posted January 22

  On 22/01/2020 at 08:47, Sir Gio said:

Any ITK on what fell through last week? He had a yes, but the next day he didn't, honest enough interview

On Monday the 13th of January Hearts had a loan offer accepted for Jordan Green. 

 

Barnsley had also accepted a loan offer from Newport County Afc. 

 

On Tuesday the 14th of January Barnsley then told us they had rejected our loan move,  at 5.30pm Newport had announced Jordan Green on a loan deal until the end of the season. 

 

Similar to the Wolfsburg deal with Charles-Jesaja Herrmann, the offer accepted only for them to change their minds at the last minute. 

 

 

Barnsley seem to be happy dealing with us if it benefits them, Sibbick getting regular game time benefits them it's improves him and makes his value go up. 

[Zaba]

On 31/01/2020 at 22:48, Natural Orders said:

Still 100% sure?

U ok babe?

 

As far as I’d been told, there was at least 1 more signing. To the point where they were at Tynecastle. 
 

I’m not ITK in any way so was only passing on what I was told.

[Bongo 1874]

20 minutes ago, AndyNic said:

 

Just a wee light hearted joke mate

Sadly James the joke isn't funny anymore, and I don't like being accused of being someone I'm not. 

[TheTrumpet]

5 hours ago, Gorillajam said:

Heard on the Radio Aberdeen paid nearly a million for Hernandez. The biggest fee they've paid since the mid 90s and the second largest feee they've paid in their history.

Hans Gilhaus?

[wavydavy]

1 hour ago, OTT said:

@Bongo 1874 Interesting post, don't want to quote it because I'm fairly certain clogging up the page with quotes isn't appreciated  

 

Barnsley seem an extraordinarily difficult club to deal with. Hopefully we can go back in for Thiam in the summer if Stendel is that keen. 

 

Did we end up coughing up for Stendel or his assistants in the end? I ask because it seems like the Barnsley owner is petty enough to cut his nose off to spite his face and refuse to do any business with us until that is settled. Obviously we've now got the assistant plus Sibbick so thinking that situation must be done now?

5urely if Thiam is out of contract in the summer we could sign him on a pre contract?

[Jambo92]

11 hours ago, soonbe110 said:

Yep, that’s why all the talk of a big deal for him, and us, is just so wide of the mark. Celtic will be quite happy for him to continue to develop with us for another 6-12 months, maybe even 18 knowing that they can pick him up for next to nothing this time next year or the summer of 2021. Even in summer 2021 he will just have turned 19 which is probably still too young to be a Celtic regular. 

 

If this is the tactic from Hickey and his father then stick him in the u18s for 18 months.  We are too big to be a development club for the old firm.

[OTT]

15 minutes ago, Jambo92 said:

 

If this is the tactic from Hickey and his father then stick him in the u18s for 18 months.  We are too big to be a development club for the old firm.

 

Given he wasn't sold this window, I'm starting to worry. 

 

I want to see more youngsters get the opportunities that Hickey, Irving, etc. are getting but not being able to properly invest in our youth system will hurt that. Losing such a talented laddie for a development fee doesn't help attract better coaches or allow us to scout better within Scotland to identify these players. We stay poor and unable to do much beyond more of the same. Having a first class academy costs significant money. 

 

Developing youth becomes really disheartening if this is the approach from the youngsters - 'thanks - bye'. 

 

How is the club supposed to protect itself when it loses its most promising youngsters as soon as their brought through?  If we could offer 16 year olds 4/5 year deals that would go along way to stopping this sort of thing from happening.

 

I'm hoping Hickey see's the quality Stendel has as a manager and his potential to improve under him. 

[Jambo92]

14 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Given he wasn't sold this window, I'm starting to worry. 

 

I want to see more youngsters get the opportunities that Hickey, Irving, etc. are getting but not being able to properly invest in our youth system will hurt that. Losing such a talented laddie for a development fee doesn't help attract better coaches or allow us to scout better within Scotland to identify these players. We stay poor and unable to do much beyond more of the same. Having a first class academy costs significant money. 

 

Developing youth becomes really disheartening if this is the approach from the youngsters - 'thanks - bye'. 

 

How is the club supposed to protect itself when it loses its most promising youngsters as soon as their brought through?  If we could offer 16 year olds 4/5 year deals that would go along way to stopping this sort of thing from happening.

 

I'm hoping Hickey see's the quality Stendel has as a manager and his potential to improve under him. 

 

You can only hope that the player shows some sort of loyalty to the team who has given them his break in professional football.  To me, the boy has only played around 20 games and the majority of those games have resulted in losses.  Yes there is definitely potential but I'm more than happy with Garrucio at LB and leave Hickey to work out his career.  Just need to look at Cochrane to see how quickly things change in football

 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

4 hours ago, Zaba said:

U ok babe?

 

As far as I’d been told, there was at least 1 more signing. To the point where they were at Tynecastle. 
 

I’m not ITK in any way so was only passing on what I was told.

Yeh but you said guaranteed 😂

[Tommy Brown]

6 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Sadly James the joke isn't funny anymore, and I don't like being accused of being someone I'm not. 

We don't need press when you're around.

Please don't respond at all to the smart arses in future.

I just fear at times, you post too much information, that can lead yourself or others getting into trouble at the club. Be careful.

 

 

[Unknown user]

7 hours ago, TheTrumpet said:

Hans Gilhaus?

 

Paul Bernard. I think he's the only non OF (by which I mean celtic, rangers and the rangers) 7 figure purchase in scottish history. A jambo too IIRC.

[Tommy Brown]

1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

Paul Bernard. I think he's the only non OF (by which I mean celtic, rangers and the rangers) 7 figure purchase in scottish history. A jambo too IIRC.

 

I had never realised he was Edinburgh born.

[Alex Kintner]

8 hours ago, Jambo92 said:

 

If this is the tactic from Hickey and his father then stick him in the u18s for 18 months.  We are too big to be a development club for the old firm.

Can nip this nonsense in the bud before it gets going ffs! 

[Gordon Ramsay]

Wasn't overly keen on Gordon coming back myself but after yesterday maybe we've missed a trick. He might be able to kick the ball long but basic goalkeeping ability is severely lacking. Joel is not the answer. 

[Kirky Jambo]

8 hours ago, Jambo92 said:

 

You can only hope that the player shows some sort of loyalty to the team who has given them his break in professional football.  To me, the boy has only played around 20 games and the majority of those games have resulted in losses.  Yes there is definitely potential but I'm more than happy with Garrucio at LB and leave Hickey to work out his career.  Just need to look at Cochrane to see how quickly things change in football

 

totally agree and on the face of it, looks like he may have bought into the hype. Obviously shown promising signs but also a lot of defensive naivety and personally I don’t think he is as good as Wallace at the same age

[ramrod]

Hopefully we can continue  to remain unbeaten without Hickey in the team and his time on the sidelines might focus him and his parents  attitude re signing a contract extension. 

Things can change really quickly for a young footballer and a club like Celtic won't think twice about moving on to other targets . 

[Newton51]

https://twitter.com/barryanderson_/status/1223926403797786629?s=21
 

Loic Damour is out of favour at Hearts

Loic Damour's Hearts future is uncertain after manager Daniel Stendel admitted he could have left the club before Friday's transfer deadline.

The Frenchman is out of favour and has not played in any of Hearts' five games so far in 2020. Stendel signed Marcel Langer from Schalke 04 and Toby Sibbick on loan from Barnsley to strengthen his midfield, whilst Andy Irving's rapid progress has delighted the manager.

That leaves Damour, 29, on the fringes of the first-team squad. He arrived from Cardiff City last August on a four-year contract but Hearts were exploring the possibility of moving him on before the January transfer window closed at midnight on Friday.

"Both sides looked for a solution. At the end, he is still with Hearts," Stendel told the Evening News. "It is not so easy for him at the moment. He knows the chance to play is not so high but he is still at the club.

 

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"When he trains well, he gets his chance. He has not played much in the last weeks and we have looked for other options, but he is part of the squad and everyone has the chance to play."

Damour has made 17 appearances in maroon so far this season, but started only three of the nine games since Stendel was appointed manager.

Edited February 2, 2020 by Newton51

[Balernojambo]

2 hours ago, Gordon Ramsay said:

Wasn't overly keen on Gordon coming back myself but after yesterday maybe we've missed a trick. He might be able to kick the ball long but basic goalkeeping ability is severely lacking. Joel is not the answer. 

It was confirmed yesterday it was Celtic that were responsible for Gordon not coming to Hearts.

[kila]

5 minutes ago, Balernojambo said:

It was confirmed yesterday it was Celtic that were responsible for Gordon not coming to Hearts.

 

Wonder if Doyle not moving on didn't help things.

 

Hopefully we can get Adam Davies in the summer with Gordon as backup.

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by kila

[Balernojambo]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

Wonder if Doyle not moving on didn't help things.

 

Hopefully we can get Adam Davies in the summer with Gordon as backup.

 

I personally think we should not sign Gordon.  Whilst he is a better option that anything we have right now I really do not think he is a long term solution for the way we are playing under Stendal.  We need a keeper that is like Joel with the ball at his feet but that can actually save a shot.  I do not think Gordon would be comfortable playing as a "sweeper keeper" so the likes of Davies who have played for DS before would be a better option.   I would have taken Gordon until the end of the season but at 38 he is probably not wanting to be back up.  I also do not know if we should be paying a keeper the wage he would receive to be a sub keeper.

[andrew]

12 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

As I said in my post this morning, I'm now ready to tell you what happened last night and why we didn't get Thiam. 

 

At lunch time yesterday Hearts and Barnsley had agreed to let Thiam come to us on Loan. 

 

Rotherham United then came in with a loan offer to take Thiam, they had offered to pay Barnsley a higher percentage of his wages, Hearts matched this. 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/rotherham-united-battling-to-sign-in-demand-championship-winger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwia7_rOo7HnAhXFUhUIHWjIDzwQFjAAegQIBRAF&usg=AOvVaw3A172aUpF-4kXrr8vdNJO2&ampcf=1

 

From there Barnsley tried to play both clubs against each other, to see who was going to pay the highest percentage of his wages.

 

At this point Rotherham withdrew their interest, and at that point Hearts withdrew their loan interest aswell. 

 

The reason why Barnsley tried to play both clubs off against one another, they were trying to get as much wages as possible to bring in a defender. 

 

The reason why they needed a defender was to replace Bambo Diaby, as he failed a drugs test and is subject to an investigation, he has been suspended from Barnsley from first team playing duties for the time being. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/bambo-diaby-suspended-by-barnsley-as-fa-investigates-drugs-test-1-10215636/amp&ved=2ahUKEwj-gcy2qbHnAhW4RhUIHRidCMgQFjAfegQIDBAF&usg=AOvVaw3NrFDZ3DTYNAiP-F9LL6yz&ampcf=1 

 

Barnsley did bring in a defender from St mirren but that wasn't the one they originally wanted , he will link up with the U23 squad. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/51327071&ved=2ahUKEwjrlKXMrbHnAhXMUBUIHf4JALYQFjAAegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw1YtzpBV81f02d0JMiuKWDm&ampcf=1

 

Later on that night Hearts got back in touch and asked if a deal could be made, Barnsley weren't prepared to back down from there original loan stance, so Hearts made an offer to buy Thiam outright, the first offer was declined they went back in with a second offer and that was declined too. 

 

The player was desperate to come to Hearts, and was more than happy to hook back up with Stendel and with virtually everything agreed, as you can see Barnsley then started playing hardball, and the outcome was no deal. 

 

Now I will put this to posters for those that want to do detective work and for me to prove my credibility, I will put this name to you Dominic Samuel, a name I mentioned yesterday as one of the back up options,

 

now there is very clever posters on here that know how to check this stuff back, if you check the last article that was done on Dominic Samuel was done by not the old firm on the 12th of January. 

 

If you check back all the Edinburgh Evening news articles from then, you will see his name doesn't even get brought into any article from the 10th of January. 

 

Here was my reply yesterday to a poster. 

Bongo 1874   

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Posted yesterday at 15:31

  On 31/01/2020 at 15:30, Gav M said:

any idea who the back up plan is if it falls through?

Dominic Samuel is an option along with a few others. 

 

 

 

Now here's an article on transfer updates from the Edinburgh Evening News, yesterday at 5pm guess who's name is in it?  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-5pm-transfer-update-latest-mamadou-thiam-conor-washington-and-christophe-berra-1381954%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj11byQsbHnAhVnQxUIHTaXBJUQyM8BMAB6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1S5GtQw8ozrnz-rIoFY5_d&ampcf=1 

 

Never one mention about Dominic Samuel all week, but guess who barry boy decided to put in his article. 

 

This happens on numerous occasions not just on the posts I have posted up, but other posters as well, the guy is just a complete bum in fact all of them are I wouldn't trust any of them. 

 

I could go on but there you have it folks have a good night cmon the Hearts. 

 

Cheers Bongo 1874.

 

Not doubting you Bongo but it seems bizarre that Barnsley would be pushing for us to cover a higher percentage of his wages in a loan deal but would then reject a transfer which would have got him off their books completely.

[wavydavy]

4 minutes ago, andrew said:

 

Not doubting you Bongo but it seems bizarre that Barnsley would be pushing for us to cover a higher percentage of his wages in a loan deal but would then reject a transfer which would have got him off their books completely.

 

Good point especially when the guy is out of contract in the summer as far as I am aware. Would they not want to get some cash for him especially if he is not playing on a regular basis.

 

Maybe they are just being awkward because of the original issues with DS and his staff.

Edited February 2, 2020 by wavydavy

[Bongo 1874]

24 minutes ago, andrew said:

 

Not doubting you Bongo but it seems bizarre that Barnsley would be pushing for us to cover a higher percentage of his wages in a loan deal but would then reject a transfer which would have got him off their books completely.

 

19 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

Good point especially when the guy is out of contract in the summer as far as I am aware. Would they not want to get some cash for him especially if he is not playing on a regular basis.

 

Maybe they are just being awkward because of the original issues with DS and his staff.

They paid 1 million for him 👍. 

[kila]

Chances of Thiam in the summer when he's a free agent? Did he really want to come to Hearts and work with Stendel again within our budget (if permanent offer was made) or is he likely to be picked up by Championship teams?

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by kila

[DH1986]

34 minutes ago, andrew said:

 

Not doubting you Bongo but it seems bizarre that Barnsley would be pushing for us to cover a higher percentage of his wages in a loan deal but would then reject a transfer which would have got him off their books completely.

Yep.....

 

If we were willing to pay a fee plus his salary then we’d not have been put off by Barnsley’s percentage demands.

 

Even if we were contributing £5k a week until the end of the season it’s only £80k.

[Mikey1874]

54 minutes ago, kila said:

 

Wonder if Doyle not moving on didn't help things.

 

Hopefully we can get Adam Davies in the summer with Gordon as backup.

 

Doyle being injured could be a factor.

[kila]

2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Doyle being injured could be a factor.

 

Is he still injured? Thought he was due to start training again during the window

 

[Bongo 1874]

43 minutes ago, andrew said:

 

Not doubting you Bongo but it seems bizarre that Barnsley would be pushing for us to cover a higher percentage of his wages in a loan deal but would then reject a transfer which would have got him off their books completely.

 

39 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

Good point especially when the guy is out of contract in the summer as far as I am aware. Would they not want to get some cash for him especially if he is not playing on a regular basis.

 

Maybe they are just being awkward because of the original issues with DS and his staff.

 

4 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

Yep.....

 

If we were willing to pay a fee plus his salary then we’d not have been put off by Barnsley’s percentage demands.

 

Even if we were contributing £5k a week until the end of the season it’s only £80k.

Will add to this 

 

They paid 1 million for him 👍.  I don't know if you understand but Hearts got Boyce at a steal for 150k, and not every club is prepared to lose a large amount of money, and even more so if they have paid decent money for him, for instance in this window we got three offers for Hickey and we knocked everyone of them back. Although we didn't pay for him and he is a product of the academy. Albeit Celtic as well. 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Bongo 1874

[Balernojambo]

Just now, Bongo 1874 said:

 

 

Will add to this 

 

They paid 1 million for him 👍.  I don't know if you understand but Hearts got Boyce at a steal for 150k, and not every club is prepared to lose a large amount of money, and even more so if they have paid decent money for him, for instance in this window we got three offers for Hickey and we knocked everyone of them back. 

When is Hickey's contract up?

[Bongo 1874]

2 minutes ago, Balernojambo said:

When is Hickey's contract up?

2021. 

[DH1986]

3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

 

 

Will add to this 

 

They paid 1 million for him 👍.  I don't know if you understand but Hearts got Boyce at a steal for 150k, and not every club is prepared to lose a large amount of money, and even more so if they have paid decent money for him, for instance in this window we got three offers for Hickey and we knocked everyone of them back. 

They’re losing him for nothing in June so they are definitely prepared to lose money....they are willing to pay a guy they don’t want his full salary instead of taking a fee and paying no salary. 
 

It’s probably a swing of around £150k they’ve sacrificed.

[WageThief]

5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

 

 

Will add to this 

 

They paid 1 million for him 👍.  I don't know if you understand but Hearts got Boyce at a steal for 150k, and not every club is prepared to lose a large amount of money, and even more so if they have paid decent money for him, for instance in this window we got three offers for Hickey and we knocked everyone of them back. 

 

I don't really get it.  They may have paid a million but they'll lose him for nothing at the end of June.  It would only make sense if he was playing regularly for Barnsley.

 

PS.  Very much appreciate all your info.

[kila]

2 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

They’re losing him for nothing in June so they are definitely prepared to lose money....they are willing to pay a guy they don’t want his full salary instead of taking a fee and paying no salary. 
 

It’s probably a swing of around £150k they’ve sacrificed.

 

Presumably Barnsley thought Hearts or the other club would come back one last time with an improved offer with minutes left

 

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by kila

[OTT]

5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

2021. 

 

They must be very confident of getting a deal done. 

[Gorillajam]

12 hours ago, TheTrumpet said:

Hans Gilhaus?

 

Paul Bernard for 1 million back in 95'.

 

They appear to be willing to part with their cash now they have the American backers. Apparently Hernandez cost them 800k. Thats why McInnes didn't want to pursue Stephen O'Donnell. He honestly looks terrible from the highlights of him on Youtube. Also some of the Aberdeen fans 'ITK' are claiming they nearly signed a South American attacking Midfielder who is "more than creative" and is apparently going to sign for them in the summer - a fee was agreed. They agreed a fee for Ross Stewart but Main refused to move on loan to Killie resulting in the move breaking down. Sounds like Ross Stewart would have chosen the sheep over the Hibs. They actually spent quite a bit on fees in January: Kennedy, Gallagher, Hernandez. McGeough will also been on a decent wage (reported to be the biggest paid player now).

 

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Gorillajam