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28 minutes ago, Gorillajam said:

 

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere. Naismith is all good!

 

"Just an awkward movement, I feel fine". 

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StirlingJambo
1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said:

Not impressed one bit with Clarke. He was hired as someone who can supposedly cope with all the injuries and call-offs and build and motivate a close-knit team from who's left and make poorer players better. No evidence of that at all. Not a single one of the players he's brought in has made a difference and virtually no improvement from the way we played under McLeish. He also came across as very weak with the Tierney situation.

 

Greg Taylor at LB is ridiculous. Has he even played this season? This was a game to bring in youngsters for a meaningless but still competitive fixture. Hickey is our third best Scottish LB, no question. He can even fit in at RB. Tierney clearly has no interest in being back-up to Robertson so Hickey should be brought in asap, even only to learn from Robertson. Hickey and Fraser down the left would be a decent partnership IMO.

 

Is there some sort of rule that Scotland can't play teenagers in the first team?

 

Naisy meanwhile has to be a Scotland manager in waiting if he gets into coaching. We need someone who really loves his country and wants to do well, unlike the shitebags like Fletcher, Tierney and all the others who pick and choose when they turn up for Scotland.


Spot on! Never understood why Scotland wait until a players around 22-23 until they can get a game. Like you said opportunity for players like Hickey and also the young lad Gilmour at Chelsea.

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Worthing Jambo

Well done to Stevie in earning his 50th cap👍
Hall of famer.

I’m sure he wants to qualify for next year and be a part of a major international competition for the first time.

Probably on his bucket list and one of the reasons he signed for Hearts.

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1 hour ago, SE16 3LN said:

Once😂

Jeez, talk about patronising! We were one of the best teams in Europe with class players. Dalgliesh, Souness and Jordan to name a few. Full houses at Hampden game after game. Yes 100,000. Taking 30,000 abroad for World Cup finals was the norm. It will return! As I say , support your team and country through tick and thin!

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Just now, Worthing Jambo said:

Well done to Stevie in earning his 50th cap👍
Hall of famer.

I’m sure he wants to qualify for next year and be a part of a major international competition for the first time.

Probably on his bucket list and one of the reasons he signed for Hearts.

This with bells on. Good for the Hearts museum and future Hearts fans.

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3 minutes ago, Independence said:

Jeez, talk about patronising! We were one of the best teams in Europe with class players. Dalgliesh, Souness and Jordan to name a few. Full houses at Hampden game after game. Yes 100,000. Taking 30,000 abroad for World Cup finals was the norm. It will return! As I say , support your team and country through tick and thin!

👍👍👍👍

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Brighton Jambo
41 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Momentum for a 1 off match over 4 months away?

You won your last match did you not?  If you then win on Tuesday that’s three wins in a row for the first time in how long?  No offence but when things are are difficult as they are for you guys right now I would be looking at as three game winning streak going into the play-offs as a positive . 

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33 minutes ago, Independence said:

Jeez, talk about patronising! We were one of the best teams in Europe with class players. Dalgliesh, Souness and Jordan to name a few. Full houses at Hampden game after game. Yes 100,000. Taking 30,000 abroad for World Cup finals was the norm. It will return! As I say , support your team and country through tick and thin!

 

Great post

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54 minutes ago, Independence said:

Jeez, talk about patronising! We were one of the best teams in Europe with class players. Dalgliesh, Souness and Jordan to name a few. Full houses at Hampden game after game. Yes 100,000. Taking 30,000 abroad for World Cup finals was the norm. It will return! As I say , support your team and country through tick and thin!

Hope you are right but personally think not a snowball’s chance. 

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Well done Naisy on your 50th cap, Hearts are lucky to have a guy like yourself, we just need more like yourself to move in the right direction.

 

PS let's not forget the previous gaffer got him to us.

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3 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said:

Well done Naisy on your 50th cap, Hearts are lucky to have a guy like yourself, we just need more like yourself to move in the right direction.

 

PS let's not forget the previous gaffer got him to us.

Agree. Probably the biggest signing for us in decades. The same as the Robbo and Rudi re-signings. Shame about the injuries, hopefully get a good run at it now. Without doubt a class above every player we have. 

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2 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

Great thread. Hearts fans rounded on for being worried that our best player might be injured and now screeds of wankers that can't turn off politics for 3 ****ing seconds. Great thread.


Could do without the politics but if this was just Hearts fans being measured in their concerns, no-one would round on anyone.

But no, this was decrying: 
Hearts
The Player
Scotland - the team
Scotland - the country

All because Naismith had the temerity to chase that 50th cap and, as it turned out, played well and was subbed as planned after 60 minutes. 

No fuss, no drama needed. But almost every thread has to descend into the standard, internet madness these days - throwing drama, hysterics and strident, polarised, rigid views into every discussion with no room for anything in the middle.  

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1 hour ago, Brighton Jambo said:

You won your last match did you not?  If you then win on Tuesday that’s three wins in a row for the first time in how long?  No offence but when things are are difficult as they are for you guys right now I would be looking at as three game winning streak going into the play-offs as a positive . 

4 months away can't see it being a factor 

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8 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

4 months away can't see it being a factor 

You can’t see how winning three games back to back for the first time in years might not help the players confidence ahead of a crucial game?  Really? 

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1 hour ago, StirlingJambo said:


Spot on! Never understood why Scotland wait until a players around 22-23 until they can get a game. Like you said opportunity for players like Hickey and also the young lad Gilmour at Chelsea.


Hornby up front too. 

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14 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

You can’t see how winning three games back to back for the first time in years might not help the players confidence ahead of a crucial game?  Really? 


It might but the team changes so much I don’t see how we can build a team or momentum. If we do qualify it’ll be interesting to see if all of a sudden injuries and call-offs are reduced.

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5 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:


It might but the team changes so much I don’t see how we can build a team or momentum. If we do qualify it’ll be interesting to see if all of a sudden injuries and call-offs are reduced.

I agree about the injuries, I would bet big money that all the players missing for these games will suddenly be available for the play off games and then as you say for the summer if qualified.  

 

Its symptomatic of the issues for the Scotland team at the moment, players picking and choosing when they turn up.  

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Wham Bam Austin McCann
3 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

If you think being "granted" power over some things and not others and getting pocket money to spend - that's less than we put in - from a government we didn't elect based in another country we play against at football is "proper", that's up to you.

 

We have power over the things we need, and get more than England back - free prescriptions, education etc and I voted, if you didn't vote thats upto you.

 

Anyway, enough about politics.

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14 minutes ago, Wham Bam Austin McCann said:

 

We have power over the things we need, and get more than England back - free prescriptions, education etc and I voted, if you didn't vote thats upto you.

 

Anyway, enough about politics.

 

A lot factually wrong in there. Control over immigration, all taxation, energy, defence and foreign policy for example would significantly improve Scotland - we could get rid of Trident for example; and taking into account oil, Scotland has been subsidising the rest of the UK for a very long time. In any case I don't see how relying on handouts is a case for the status quo).

 

I have friends from Finland, Sweden, Australia and all over, countries with less going for them than Scotland has when it comes to natural resources and other assets and not one of them can understand why any country would want not to manage all of its own affairs. Even all my English mates now agree Scotland should just do its own thing. Yeah, enough about politics though, although Scotland's independence is about way more than politics.

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2 hours ago, Brighton Jambo said:

I’m English so couldn’t care less how scotland do but even I can see how this game is anything but meaningless.  It’s crucial you build some momentum and confidence ahead of the play offs and winning today and next week is the last chance you have.  

Why you on a hearts forum then? 

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Well done Steven and a nice touch from Clarke making him the captain. A complete pro and we are very lucky to have him, just hope he steers clear of injury in midweek and is ready for next Saturday.

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Just now, djseant said:

Why you on a hearts forum then? 

Please explain why he cannot be on a Hearts Forum ?

 

I'd like to think you did not think your post through but if not...……………………......

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Just now, CJGJ said:

Please explain why he cannot be on a Hearts Forum ?

 

I'd like to think you did not think your post through but if not...……………………......

 

1 minute ago, Dino Velvet said:


because he’s a hearts supporter? 

😂😂 having a laugh just funny how people react to politics 

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5 minutes ago, djseant said:

 

😂😂 having a laugh just funny how people react to politics 

Trying to cover up your mistake just won't wash..and nothing funny about it

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Economics are obviously not your strong point. We raise less in tax per capita and get £1600 per head more . That's not pocket money..that's a subsidy. Not to mention the linguistic, familial, currency and social ties that we share in the UK. Arguing to stay in a union with a far away continent while leaving a single market on which 64% of our trade depends, is the most illogical, intellectually challenged argument I have heard in my life. By all means give Glasgow and Dundee their Scexit and see how they get on....the rest of us are quite happy to be British thanks very much.

I think you and others should move on to the Shed

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Just now, CJGJ said:

I think you and others should move on to the Shed

Yes fair enough. Just couldn't let fake news go unchallenged.  Will stick to football from here.

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2 hours ago, Worthing Jambo said:

Well done to Stevie in earning his 50th cap👍
Hall of famer.

I’m sure he wants to qualify for next year and be a part of a major international competition for the first time.

Probably on his bucket list and one of the reasons he signed for Hearts.

 

👍 🤗

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Saughton Jambo
3 hours ago, Thought Police said:

says he’s fine, just an “awkward movement”

 

Nice Unico Big Bang on his wrist there. Touch of class from the Scottish captain 

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5 hours ago, Independence said:

Not arguing but he deserved this and enhances Hearts reputation. 

Apologies i was raging at the time. He does deserve it all. Just wanna wrap the guy in cotton wool as he is vital for us. Look at last week 

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5 hours ago, Barack said:

International players injured on duty, pay compensation to the respective clubs. It's the SFA's dime, our time.

Is that for the duration of the injury?

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13 minutes ago, kimosavi said:

Is that for the duration of the injury?

You know what, I've been doubting myself about this all night. I'm not sure now, if compensation is only paid in later stages of tournaments(something Scotland will never need worry about), or the rules changed and it applies to qualifying too. Might be a lesser amount due than normal. Dunno.

 

We'll say for arguments sake they do pay. The FA's in question will send the medical findings to a club, and there are FIFA guidelines on rates of pay(usually worked out as a daily figure) that are generally accepted & applicable depending on the severity of the injury, yeah. If it's 3 month's say, then that's covered. I think though, the compensation only lasts for a year. After that, the club's take the hit.

 

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What is hearts playing at letting him play for Scotland when he is just one game back when you have clearly seen how influential he is to us to play for a pathetic nation in a pointless 2 games nothing to play for he could’ve got his 50th cap in the play off hearts pull him out of the next game as we need him for Saturday 

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Naismith has an exemplary record of wanting to play for his country, even when he played for the now-defunct British club. Good on him and well done on the 50.

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7 hours ago, Barack said:

Decided it's not worth having a dig at Clarke.

 

Just hope he's twinged something & has walked off as a precaution.

 

Can **** the Kazakhstan game off now. Hopefully not the Kilmarnock one.

 

 

I definitely wouldn't blame Clarke. I think there is actually something in the selfish Naismith thought. He has played so little for us this season that he just should not have been in that squad in any way, but I'm in no doubt its what he wanted to happen. Just hope his injury is nothing and he is now able to concentrate on his actual paid job from here on in. A vitally important player for us, and that should be more important than the ****ing scottish football hall of 'fame'.

 

Clarke for his failings so far as national manager is an innocent bystander as far as I'm concerned.

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4 minutes ago, kirkierobroy said:

Naismith has an exemplary record of wanting to play for his country, even when he played for the now-defunct British club. Good on him and well done on the 50.

 

Plenty Rangers fans were happy for him today.

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7 hours ago, indianajones said:

 

Almost certain we can instruct Clarke to release or not include him in the squad. 

 

It better happen. 

You're completely and utterly wrong! The national team manager can select whoever he wants (that's eligible to play for the national team, obviously). And if they don't report for duty, they can be suspended from club games for up to five days after the national team plays.  And it's the player's choice, not his club's, whether he reports or not. 

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Pasquale for King
13 minutes ago, Ferryjambo99 said:

Hearts cant force him not to play and frankly we should respect the players wish to play for his country. 

I don’t think we can as he would be raging, or would want to but Celtic and now Arsenal have demanded that Tierney be excluded from certain squads so it would seem it can be done. Common sense on his training and game time would be great to keep him fit and available for both teams.

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39 minutes ago, euan 10 said:

What is hearts playing at letting him play for Scotland when he is just one game back when you have clearly seen how influential he is to us to play for a pathetic nation in a pointless 2 games nothing to play for he could’ve got his 50th cap in the play off hearts pull him out of the next game as we need him for Saturday 

The Scottish football team may be pathetic on occasions but if you truly believe Scotland is a pathetic nation I'd gladly pay your train fare

down to Borisland for good. 

I'm being a bit harsh I've just noticed your age is part of your username.

SN is clearly a proud patriot and if we pulled him out of a Scotland squad he'd probably request a transfer. 

 

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Pasquale for King
14 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

You're completely and utterly wrong! The national team manager can select whoever he wants (that's eligible to play for the national team, obviously). And if they don't report for duty, they can be suspended from club games for up to five days after the national team plays.  And it's the player's choice, not his club's, whether he reports or not. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50296744

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reason-kieran-tierney-missed-scotland-20388174

 

He was spared playing in games last season too. It can be done.

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

When will people realise Steven Naismith is entirely of a different mindset to Tierney.

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24 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

You're completely and utterly wrong! The national team manager can select whoever he wants (that's eligible to play for the national team, obviously). And if they don't report for duty, they can be suspended from club games for up to five days after the national team plays.  And it's the player's choice, not his club's, whether he reports or not. 


I take it that doesn’t apply to Tierney / Arsenal then?

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