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wavydavy
2 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

It’s win or bust on Saturday for Levein by all accounts. 

 

If only that were true.

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FruitJuice
2 minutes ago, wallace_mercer said:

A must win game - 3 points required going into two away games in the league 

 

would be good to skelp them 

Would set us up nicely for Easter road. 

Beat them and Ron is spending money on getting rid of heckingbottom and hiring a new manager.   Excellent! 

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FruitJuice
1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Did I even utter any of those words? 

I never said you.  Someone else did though, and there was no need for it.  Agree?

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Noah Claypole
18 minutes ago, Gambo said:

What about banning the person who has taken us to our wonderful league record?

 

Even if we win our next few games, he still HAS TO GO.

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GinRummy
4 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said:

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Have to say, it’s sad to see a top wind up merchant  reduced to such petty, infantile shite

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Cruyff Turn
4 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

I never said you.  Someone else did though, and there was no need for it.  Agree?

Why did you quote me then? 🤔

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Bring Back Paulo Sergio
14 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

I know, but would opinions of Levein change if we have a successful season?

Yes. He's built a good squad which is obviously a credit to him. Just don't feel he can get the best out of them. Whether it's tactics or training or and accumulation of different factors I don't know but something is seriously wrong right now.

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Gambo
11 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said:

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The reaction of most fans when I said " if we win our next few games"

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Smith's right boot
1 hour ago, The Treasurer said:

That's clearly NOT what anyone, including myself, are saying

 

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Famous 1874
1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

He had a tight hamstring days before the Celtic game but was still risked and made it worse. 

 

For those people who are saying he declared himself fit for Parkhead and then had to come off are far off the mark. 

 

Michael Smith is an experienced guy who did not want to play at all because of the risk involved. 

 

He got told to play anyway. 

 

Kind of sums things up tbh. 

Didn’t even realise that. ****ing shambles that mate. 

Get them all out.

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
35 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

if he's given the rest of the season, and he finishes 3rd/4th and we get European football, and a good run in the cups, will those that want him out now, still want him out then?

His last chance was the livi thrashing. Every day he stays in his job(s) is to the detriment of the club. 

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CJGJ

Craig Levein faces a return of Hearts' injury curse with as many as eight first-team players sidelined this weekend.

Steven Naismith is the latest to suffer a setback, with a hamstring niggle leaving him a major doubt to face Motherwell on Saturday.

 

Michael Smith is battling a similar problem while John Souttar remains out with an ankle issue having not featured since the opening day of the season.

On-loan Manchester United keeper Joel Pereira is still undergoing treatment on a thigh strain at his parent club.

Long-term absentees Ben Garrucio, Jamie Walker, Peter Haring, and Craig Wighton are all unavailable.

 

Hearts' 2018/19 season was derailed by a string of injuries and casualties are mounting again for the winless Jambos and their under-fire boss.

 

On Naismith, who was unable to feature in Scotland’s Euro 2020 defeats to Russia and Belgium, Levein, said: “Steven trained on the second or third day after joining up with Scotland and he felt tight.

“We got a scan done and it showed minor irritation. There was a bit of fluid around the tendon so we erred on the side of caution.

“The injury is nothing significant. He isn’t feeling the hamstring at the moment but to get him on the field we need to do a fair bit of work to make sure he is robust enough.

“The last thing I want to do is play him and have to take him off after 15 or 20 minutes.”

 
 
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Boab
2 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

IF we manage to turn the season round, finish 3rd or 4th, get European football and a good run in both cups...would your opinion change?

 Of course. Most sensible people would change their opinion.

Problem is, I can’t see it. Many factors of course but we need a balanced team to fulfill that. I worry about the Naismith situation. A player we simply can’t do without if those things are to be achieved. 

There are others who’s absence through injury are seriously hampering our efforts but he has shown what it can do for the team when he’s in.

All that aside, i’ve came to the conclusion that the main problem is not injuries but the whole coaching system. I don’t think it will ever work and needs a big re-vamp.

 

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FruitJuice
44 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Why did you quote me then? 🤔

I'm owe you an apology.  I was referring to it being brought into the discussion.  I wrongly thought you were agreeing that the protest would turn into a jingoism fest.  Sorry 

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Absolute Scenes
38 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

His last chance was the livi thrashing. Every day he stays in his job(s) is to the detriment of the club. 

 

that doesn't make any sense...because if he has a successful season and we manage to pull it out the bag and do well, you're saying that situation would be detrimental to the club because Levein is in charge???

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Absolute Scenes
24 minutes ago, Boab said:

 Of course. Most sensible people would change their opinion.

Problem is, I can’t see it. Many factors of course but we need a balanced team to fulfill that. I worry about the Naismith situation. A player we simply can’t do without if those things are to be achieved. 

There are others who’s absence through injury are seriously hampering our efforts but he has shown what it can do for the team when he’s in.

All that aside, i’ve came to the conclusion that the main problem is not injuries but the whole coaching system. I don’t think it will ever work and needs a big re-vamp.

 

 

While I agree to an extent, we definitely saw last season that we had a system that worked before injuries happened. We were playing really well, and our coaching and tactics were working. I don't think its healthy to the success of our club to revamp everything and start again, that in itself would account another 5 year plan, stripping everything back, paying people off etc - we'd be back to square one.

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1874robbo
1 hour ago, FruitJuice said:

Would set us up nicely for Easter road. 

Beat them and Ron is spending money on getting rid of heckingbottom and hiring a new manager.   Excellent! 

Why would getting rid of Heckingbottom be good news?

Do you think Hibs fans want us to get rid of Levein?

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FruitJuice
2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Why would getting rid of Heckingbottom be good news?

Do you think Hibs fans want us to get rid of Levein?

I hope he's got the job for life.  I just cant see Ron being happy splashing out on paying him off and finding a replacement.  Every cloud etc  

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1874robbo
3 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

IF we manage to turn the season round, finish 3rd or 4th, get European football and a good run in both cups...would your opinion change?

Do you still believe in Santa also?

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farin
1 minute ago, 1874robbo said:

Do you still believe in Santa also?

 

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1874robbo
2 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

I hope he's got the job for life.  I just cant see Ron being happy splashing out on paying him off and finding a replacement.  Every cloud etc  

They might actually get a manager that knows what he’s doing.

the longer Heckingbottom is there the better all round I say.

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We_are_the_Hearts
On 08/09/2019 at 18:57, JackLadd said:

Not sure what to make of Motherwell, were not good in the cup game but two thumping wins since. Will be coming to Tynie expecting a result for sure. 

Exactly. He talks a good game but that is all. Makes our own situation even more frustrating

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Absolute Scenes
8 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Do you still believe in Santa also?

 

strange irrelevant question to ask in regards to a HYPOTHETICAL scenario I gave to challenge the opinion that Levein must absolutely go now under all circumstances...

 

But for the record yes, yes I do

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FruitJuice
8 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

They might actually get a manager that knows what he’s doing.

the longer Heckingbottom is there the better all round I say.

Not with the money Ron will be offering after he's forked out.  I hope he stays though.  

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1874robbo
Just now, Absolute Scenes said:

 

strange irrelevant question to ask in regards to a HYPOTHETICAL scenario I gave to challenge the opinion that Levein must absolutely go now under all circumstances...

 

But for the record yes, yes I do

Meanwhile back in the real world outside of your hypothetical pish scenarios we are fecking humpty and dreaming up wonderful scenarios aint going to change that.

we need change whether you agree or not.

we can all have opinions on it.

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1874robbo
2 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

Not with the money Ron will be offering after he's forked out.  I hope he stays though.  

:thumbsup: 

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Cruyff Turn
53 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

I'm owe you an apology.  I was referring to it being brought into the discussion.  I wrongly thought you were agreeing that the protest would turn into a jingoism fest.  Sorry 

Fair play. 👍🏼 No, not at all. 

 

If we play well and win, folk might not feel it’s necessary action and why ruin a good Saturday? 

 

Play shite, draw or lose, folk will go tonto. 

 

First and foremost however, folk should be going to Tynie to get behind the lads hoping for a good result and performance.

 

 

It could attract troublemakers, these things can. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

There could be casuals looking for revenge for the Hearts boy that got his jaw broken, Motherwell lads travelling in anticipation that something will happen. Hopefully folk aren’t going to turn up just for a rammy. 

 

Mind, if we get pumped, I might come out the Main Stand on Saturday and join in myself, if i’m feeling that enraged. :rofl:

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Absolute Scenes
10 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Meanwhile back in the real world outside of your hypothetical pish scenarios we are fecking humpty and dreaming up wonderful scenarios aint going to change that.

we need change whether you agree or not.

we can all have opinions on it.

I don't disagree with the need for change at all - what I do disagree is the attitude everything needs ripped up, because that will start us at a 5 year plan AGAIN

Very much a realist but also enjoy my football club, I don't let it affect my mood as there are more important things in my life to worry about,  and am not a miserable wretch like your good self, clearly.

What I've given is a scenario, which isn't unlikely at all, to counter peoples argument that everything is bad, its never going to get better - because the truth is you have literally no idea where we will be at the end of the season after 4 league games. For all you know we could turn it around and have a fantastic season regardless how the opening games have went.

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FruitJuice
Just now, Cruyff Turn said:

Fair play. 👍🏼 No, not at all. 

 

If we play well and win, folk might not feel it’s necessary action and why ruin a good Saturday? 

 

Play shite, draw or lose, folk will go tonto. 

 

First and foremost however, folk should be going to Tynie to get behind the lads hoping for a good result and performance.

 

 

It could attract troublemakers, these things can. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

There could be casuals looking for revenge for the Hearts boy that got his jaw broken, Motherwell lads travelling in anticipation that something will happen. Hopefully folk aren’t going to turn up just for a rammy. 

 

Mind, if we get pumped, I might come out the Main Stand on Saturday and join in myself, if i’m feeling that enraged. :rofl:

I forgot about the Motherwell guy.  That might keep them away from it.  Tough decision if you're a 'lad'.  Protest about the team or team up for a game of tig? 

I can't see fans protesting before the game, and it would be funny if we win 5-0. Why not just hire kites rather than an airplane and do their bit for environment? 

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
49 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

that doesn't make any sense...because if he has a successful season and we manage to pull it out the bag and do well, you're saying that situation would be detrimental to the club because Levein is in charge???

Levein should be out of this club before the motherwell game. He is killing us. 

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Cruyff Turn
7 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

I forgot about the Motherwell guy.  That might keep them away from it.  Tough decision if you're a 'lad'.  Protest about the team or team up for a game of tig? 

I can't see fans protesting before the game, and it would be funny if we win 5-0. Why not just hire kites rather than an airplane and do their bit for environment? 

Mitch to run onto the pitch first half in his birthday suit with a Craig Levein oot Kite. It’s the only way. :laugh:

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NB GIN
On 03/09/2019 at 08:10, brunoatemyhamster said:

He will start Naismith, even though he's not ready for 90 mins, hoping that, once again, he will bail him out. 

Off injured and out for months because he is rushed back..... Again. 

 

He won’t play 

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Absolute Scenes
3 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

Levein should be out of this club before the motherwell game. He is killing us. 

 

Sorry to tell you sunshine, he's not "killing" the club at all (Romanov tried killing the club) and he will be in the dugout for the motherwell game and thereafter. And i's likely he'll be here all season. So instead of going in the huff, just get on with it. Not ideal I knowbut we're 4 league games in.

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WheatfieldWarrior
1 hour ago, 1874robbo said:

They might actually get a manager that knows what he’s doing.

the longer Heckingbottom is there the better all round I say.

 

Hibs fans will have to pony up if they want a new manager.

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7628mm
2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Probably your most on topic and correct post of the year. HHGH

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Boab
34 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Fair play. 👍🏼 No, not at all. 

 

If we play well and win, folk might not feel it’s necessary action and why ruin a good Saturday? 

 

Play shite, draw or lose, folk will go tonto. 

 

First and foremost however, folk should be going to Tynie to get behind the lads hoping for a good result and performance.

 

 

It could attract troublemakers, these things can. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

There could be casuals looking for revenge for the Hearts boy that got his jaw broken, Motherwell lads travelling in anticipation that something will happen. Hopefully folk aren’t going to turn up just for a rammy. 

 

Mind, if we get pumped, I might come out the Main Stand on Saturday and join in myself, if i’m feeling that enraged. :rofl:

 

First thing that I thought of when the plaza was quoted as the location.

Could be tasty although the old bill ain’t daft and will keep those Motherwell lads well away....excuse the pun !

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Boab
32 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

I don't disagree with the need for change at all - what I do disagree is the attitude everything needs ripped up, because that will start us at a 5 year plan AGAIN

Very much a realist but also enjoy my football club, I don't let it affect my mood as there are more important things in my life to worry about,  and am not a miserable wretch like your good self, clearly.

What I've given is a scenario, which isn't unlikely at all, to counter peoples argument that everything is bad, its never going to get better - because the truth is you have literally no idea where we will be at the end of the season after 4 league games. For all you know we could turn it around and have a fantastic season regardless how the opening games have went.

 

I understood the need for a plan when Budge came in. From an infrastructure and business view, she has done a remarkable job.

We are now near to FOH handover. Simply...we don’t need another 5 year plan as you say. The club is secure. What we need, imo, is a manager who can take us forward. I don’t feel we have that in anyone who is in our dug out right now.

All the good work done will not unravel because we change the coaching side.

It might even be the thing to propel us up to a higher level.

 

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Pasquale for King
1 hour ago, 1874robbo said:

Do you still believe in Santa also?

Hahahahahaha brilliant 😃😆🤣😂

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Pasquale for King
32 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

Sorry to tell you sunshine, he's not "killing" the club at all (Romanov tried killing the club) and he will be in the dugout for the motherwell game and thereafter. And i's likely he'll be here all season. So instead of going in the huff, just get on with it. Not ideal I knowbut we're 4 league games in.

Not ideal, we’re joint bottom of the league and crowds/corporate takings are well down year on year, since the last time he was manager or thereabouts. He has to go and yet you still defend him and somehow think 9/10 games at the beginning of last season show he will turn it around, disregarding the 40 since and the 40 before.

Get your head out the sand, open your eyes, smell the coffee and “get a grip man” as someone once said.

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Pasquale for King
12 minutes ago, Boab said:

 

I understood the need for a plan when Budge came in. From an infrastructure and business view, she has done a remarkable job.

We are now near to FOH handover. Simply...we don’t need another 5 year plan as you say. The club is secure. What we need, imo, is a manager who can take us forward. I don’t feel we have that in anyone who is in our dug out right now.

All the good work done will not unravel because we change the coaching side.

It might even be the thing to propel us up to a higher level.

 

It will be the thing to propel our excellent squad forward, can’t come quick enough.

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Hercules
2 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said:

 

if he's given the rest of the season, and he finishes 3rd/4th and we get European football, and a good run in the cups, will those that want him out now, still want him out then?

Are you willing to give him the rest of the season ? If not, what’s your cut off point ?

Rock bottom and out of the cups ?

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Governor Tarkin
22 hours ago, Smith's right boot said:

 the type of fans that sing certain songs, hate certain groups of people and like waving flags, some I'm sure won't even be at the game, probably already banned. 

 

PHM.

 

11 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

It's guaranteed there won't be any normal fans there. 

 

Can you give us a quick run down of what constitutes 'normal fans', please, ta.

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Pants Shaton

Comfortable Hearts win.

 

Major distress for many of the Kickbackeratti.

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brunoatemyhamster
48 minutes ago, NB GIN said:

He won’t play 

Now he won't. 

8 days ago he might have. 

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Sir Gio

Hearing today, quite a few people giving the game a body swerve. Pity, they are going to miss the 6 Hearts goals and wonder why they didn't go.

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FruitJuice
57 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Mitch to run onto the pitch first half in his birthday suit with a Craig Levein oot Kite. It’s the only way. :laugh:

If it's really windy we won't be able to see them shaking with rage.  If it's too windy.  ' oot' 'levein' 'mad'  

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DG_HMFC
3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Hearing today, quite a few people giving the game a body swerve. Pity, they are going to miss the 6 Hearts goals and wonder why they didn't go.

 

Probably because we'll end up conceding 7 :)

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Sir Gio
Just now, DG_HMFC said:

 

Probably because we'll end up conceding 7 :)

What a game! Eye bleeding defending eh

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DG_HMFC
Just now, Sir Gio said:

What a game! Eye bleeding defending eh

 

:lol: 

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Boab
5 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Hearing today, quite a few people giving the game a body swerve. Pity, they are going to miss the 6 Hearts goals and wonder why they didn't go.

 

Hearts to win from 6-0 to 6-5 is 200/1.

Putting anything on it ?

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