50TH Anniversary Of Apollo 11.

[heartsfan]

5 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

This?

 

 

 

 

The Astronaut is correct ... we can only fly in Earth Orbit ... because A Soyuz Capsule can't go any further (Same as the Space Shuttle before it).

 

This also mentions the Van Allen belts ... lets quote what Dr Van Allen says about the conspiracy:

 

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen

Edited July 25, 2019 by heartsfan
Added about Van Allen Belts

[Space Mackerel]

2 minutes ago, heartsfan said:

 

The Astronaut is correct ... we can only fly in Earth Orbit ... because A Soyuz Capsule can't go any further (Same as the Space Shuttle before it).

 

Lets try again and quote what he actually did say.

[heartsfan]

8 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Lets try again and quote what he actually did say.

 

I did ... he said  .... " we can only fly in Earth Orbit "

 

Which is true. There currently are no spacecraft that can take Astronauts further (Soyuz or even the Space Shuttle before it was retired). Plus there has not been a rocket powerful enough to send a manned capsule to the moon since the Saturn V. We can send satellites yes but they are light compared to manned capsules.

 

And he said that "we COULD go to destinations like the moon and mars" ..... again ... true .... when we build the SLS rocket and spacecraft for that purpose ... which we don't have just now and hadven't had since the Apollo / Saturn V

Edited July 25, 2019 by heartsfan

[Maple Leaf]

5 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Lets try again and quote what he actually did say.

 

He said, "Right now we can only fly in earth orbit."  And that is correct.

 

"RIGHT NOW, we can only fly in earth orbit". That's because the Americans stopped building the Saturn 5 in the 1970s because there was no further need of it. The program that put humans on the moon was terminated.

 

 

[heartsfan]

4 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

He said, "Right now we can only fly in earth orbit."  And that is correct.

 

"RIGHT NOW, we can only fly in earth orbit". That's because the Americans stopped building the Saturn 5 in the 1970s because there was no further need of it. The program that put humans on the moon was terminated.

 

 

 

Exactly.

[tian447]

My favourite thing to remember is that they're called conspiracy theories. 

 

Conspiracy theories, not conspiracy facts. 

 

A staggering amount of evidence has been posted that completely takes the absurb claims made to bits, especially from that clavius.org website.

 

There is also a huge difference in the way that material is presented; its rational and well written, not a series of intertwined contradictions snowballing into a totally implausible myth. 

 

I seriously hope we are victim to one of the most heated trolling sessions in JKB history but somehow I doubt that's the case.

 

[tian447]

On 16/07/2019 at 21:31, Gards said:

Just waiting for some dick to come along and say it didn't happen.  One of the most amazing feats of human-kind.

 

I bet you didn't imagine the thread would turn out the way it has

 

[Notts1874]

Just now, tian447 said:

My favourite thing to remember is that they're called conspiracy theories. 

 

Conspiracy theories, not conspiracy facts. 

 

A staggering amount of evidence has been posted that completely takes the absurb claims made to bits, especially from that clavius.org website.

 

There is also a huge difference in the way that material is presented; its rational and well written, not a series of intertwined contradictions snowballing into a totally implausible myth. 

 

I seriously hope we are victim to one of the most heated trolling sessions in JKB history but somehow I doubt that's the case.

 

You should read his 9/11 content.

[tian447]

Just now, Notts1874 said:

You should read his 9/11 content.

 

I'd get an easier to read story simply by cutting out all the words in a dictionary, throwing them onto the floor at random, and reading what comes out. 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Funny how he's not come back with a smart arsed reply.

[Justin Z]

1 hour ago, tian447 said:

My favourite thing to remember is that they're called conspiracy theories. 

 

Conspiracy theories, not conspiracy facts. 

 

A staggering amount of evidence has been posted that completely takes the absurb claims made to bits, especially from that clavius.org website.

 

There is also a huge difference in the way that material is presented; its rational and well written, not a series of intertwined contradictions snowballing into a totally implausible myth. 

 

I seriously hope we are victim to one of the most heated trolling sessions in JKB history but somehow I doubt that's the case.

 

 

Even calling them conspiracy theories though, is giving them too much credit.

 

Much more appropriate names would be something like "conspiracy conjectures" or "conspiracy hypotheses" or "conspiracy absolute load of ****ing horseshit".

[tian447]

30 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

Funny how he's not come back with a smart arsed reply.

 

Probably busy pouring out tins of Alphabetti Spaghetti to spell out his next one. 

 

[Gards]

On 16/07/2019 at 21:31, Gards said:

Just waiting for some dick to come along and say it didn't happen.  One of the most amazing feats of human-kind.

Can I bring this one back again please?

[Governor Tarkin]

Bob laying the smackdown.

 

[Notts1874]

41 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Bob laying the smackdown.

 

He's been saving it up for two years as well. That's why he patrolled the Southside like a boss.

[been here before]

This stared put as an interesting thread.

 

Shame about how its turned out.

[RobboM]

Of course they landed on the ****ing moon!

Look at all the preparation that  goes into a 30 minute live broadcast of something like ****ing Coronation Street! Can you imagine the script (or was it all improvised?) carried out by professional actors (or are all of Mission control just gifted amateurs?) rehearsal, preparation, script, special effects design, costume design etc etc It took a year of filming to get 90 minutes of film for Gravity. FFS did they pull off an 8.5 DAY improvised, live performance.

Gie us peace!

[Maple Leaf]

45 minutes ago, RobboM said:

Of course they landed on the ****ing moon!

Look at all the preparation that  goes into a 30 minute live broadcast of something like ****ing Coronation Street! Can you imagine the script (or was it all improvised?) carried out by professional actors (or are all of Mission control just gifted amateurs?) rehearsal, preparation, script, special effects design, costume design etc etc It took a year of filming to get 90 minutes of film for Gravity. FFS did they pull off an 8.5 DAY improvised, live performance.

Gie us peace!

 

Six times!

[Sidelight]

27 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Six times!

Seven if you count A18.😳

[ri Alban]

They got s bit sick of it, that's why they stopped. Now the excitement will start again for 2024.

[Space Mackerel]

Imagine thinking they took a buggy to the moon (X3) And had a wee drive around, then a wee game of golf as well.

 

1. Mission Control....This is Armstrong, we are on the moon, we cant see any stars, something to do with the aperture these Swedish dudes made, the camera likes. OVER.

 

2. Astronaut Armstrong....Don't worry, we have a buggy lined up for the next few missions. And a set of my mates 2nd hand golf clubs. OVER.

 

3. Mission Control....We could do with a telescope please, even a camera that can take photies in the dark, like Galileo did 400 years ago. He sussed it.

 

4. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

 

Lot of people on here spending toooooo much time on the internet and not enough in the real world.

 

Lordy!

 

 

Edited July 26, 2019 by Space Mackerel

[Unknown user]

5 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

Imagine thinking they took a buggy to the moon (X3) And had a wee drive around, then a wee game of golf as well.

 

1. Mission Control....This is Armstrong, we are on the moon, we cant see any stars, something to do with the aperture these Swedish dudes made, the camera likes. OVER.

 

2. Astronaut Armstrong....Don't worry, we have a buggy lined up for the next few missions. And a set of my mates 2nd hand golf clubs. OVER.

 

3. Mission Control....We could do with a telescope please, even a camera that can take photies in the dark, like Galileo did 400 years ago. He sussed it.

 

4. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

 

Lot of people on here spending toooooo much time on the internet and not enough in the real world.

 

Lordy!

 

 

 

on yersel fishy 

[Bindy Badgy]

On 25/07/2019 at 20:37, tian447 said:

My favourite thing to remember is that they're called conspiracy theories. 

 

Conspiracy theories, not conspiracy facts. 

 

I dislike the term 'conspiracy theory'. In scientific terms, theories, such as evolution and gravity, have a lot of evidence supporting them. Conspiracy theories have no evidence supporting them.

[Space Mackerel]

10 minutes ago, Stokesy said:

 

I dislike the term 'conspiracy theory'. In scientific terms, theories, such as evolution and gravity, have a lot of evidence supporting them. Conspiracy theories have no evidence supporting them.

 

Apart from these 5

 

 

[Space Mackerel]

41 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

on yersel fishy 

 

I remember helping a good mate I worked beside, when I say help, more of take the piss at tea breaks sort of plan, he was  a leading member of Kinloss Mountain Rescue Team, they were off to an island near the Falklands for 4 weeks, nobody had been there, not a soul, first men on there, it was about 3 miles long a mile wide if I remember correctly. We went through all the stores, all the equipment, medical packs, food, clothing etc etc, a right good laugh, porn mags seemed to crop up a bit. It was a Tri Service expedition involving the UK Geologists.

 

Its a shame he never took a buggy and golf clubs and filmed it. Nobody ever believed him.

Edited July 26, 2019 by Space Mackerel

[Space Mackerel]

Here’s another factoid.

 

Up until Flash Gordon aired in 1936, no one had heard of a UFO really.

 

Cue thousands and thousands of UFO’s sightings afterwards. 

 

That TV in the corner is a powerful piece of equipment. 

[Space Mackerel]

1936 leads to 1938 and then this

 

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/welles-scares-nation

 

Guess there’s a few folk on here would believe it too back then. 

[Space Mackerel]

What we need is a possible alien body found in the desert, miles away,  Rosewell, that’ll do it in 1947.

 

[trotter]

Oh good. You're back. I was worrying that repeated rational explanations and evidence-based commentary had caused you some sort of mischief. 

 

Glad to see that's not the case.

 

 

 

 

[jake]

3 hours ago, Space Mackerel said:

Imagine thinking they took a buggy to the moon (X3) And had a wee drive around, then a wee game of golf as well.

 

1. Mission Control....This is Armstrong, we are on the moon, we cant see any stars, something to do with the aperture these Swedish dudes made, the camera likes. OVER.

 

2. Astronaut Armstrong....Don't worry, we have a buggy lined up for the next few missions. And a set of my mates 2nd hand golf clubs. OVER.

 

3. Mission Control....We could do with a telescope please, even a camera that can take photies in the dark, like Galileo did 400 years ago. He sussed it.

 

4. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

 

Lot of people on here spending toooooo much time on the internet and not enough in the real world.

 

Lordy!

 

 

Number 2 is very dodgy

[chuck berrys hairline]

So.........the Indians that blasted off last week how come they aren't at the moon yet how ****ing long does it take 🤣 

[Maple Leaf]

6 hours ago, chuck berrys hairline said:

So.........the Indians that blasted off last week how come they aren't at the moon yet how ****ing long does it take 🤣 

 

Interesting question.  Apollo had three humans on board, carrying all their water, food, and oxygen for the entire trip. Obviously, the quicker they got to the moon and back, the better.  For the want of a better expression, NASA took the "short cut" to the moon.

 

The Indians are using an unmanned vehicle, so they are not under the same constraints as Apollo.  The Indian vehicle will orbit the earth in wider and wider orbits until, eventually, the gravitational attraction from the moon will be greater than that of earth, and the vehicle will fall into lunar orbit.

 

That process will take several weeks, until September, iirc.

 

 

[Cade]

Apollo had to get there as fast as possible due to life support.

Unmanned craft have the luxury of time.

And the luxury of being much lighter and cheaper to run.

 

 

[ri Alban]

So there!

[The Internet]

Always been fascinated with conspiracy theories. Think they're only going to increase in popularity in the next few years as people want to stand out, get more and more bored, disillusioned with the world and swayed by whatever a picture says online. If they get enough flat earth/moon landing is a hoax stuff thrown their way on facebook they'll start to believe it, and once they believe it they're not changing their minds. It's like a weird incurable virus. 

 

Always important to question everything you read and see, especially now more than ever and it's only going to get more difficult to distinguish between what's real and not, but I mean there's just so much evidence and so many facts you need to ignore to believe this stuff. I'm well past arguing over it though, in all likelihood society will collapse through climate change soon enough and it'll all be irrelevant anyway. If you believe the moon landings were faked now there's literally nothing that can happen or be said to change your mind so it's something people need to accept is there and try and look past it. Ignore it if possible. I actually think the boy mackerel is trolling the life out of these threads and doesn't believe what he's writing but HOW CAN YOU TELL THESE DAYS. 

[been here before]

On 26/07/2019 at 23:26, Space Mackerel said:

1936 leads to 1938 and then this

 

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/welles-scares-nation

 

Guess there’s a few folk on here would believe it too back then. 

 

That never happened.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/what-to-listen-to/the-war-of-the-worlds-panic-was-a-myth/

[Adam Murray]

Next someone will be telling me that Matt Damon never went to Mars 😎

[Sidelight]

This should go down well.

[The White Cockade]

5 hours ago, alfajambo said:

This should go down well.

 

[maroonlegions]

On 24/07/2019 at 17:22, heartstastic said:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/image

 

If you think 'images' are scientific proof then you are wrong.

 

 

If you think that Russia and China are in on a fake then you are very wrong.

 

Not one bit of evidence has shown that the landing sites captured by the LRO are faked , as in  photoshopped  or image manipulation. Why is that. Why has no one been able to provide EVIDENCE that NASAs LRO landing site images are fake.

 

Now what about Chinas images of the EXACT spots of the landing sites that their mission captured.

 

Provided evidence, not speculation but real evidence that shows NASAs and Chinas images as fake.   Then explain why  China and Russia are in on it.

[Sidelight]

2 hours ago, The White Cockade said:

 

The views expressed in the video are not necessarily representative of the poster.

OB’s angle is entertaining nevertheless.

[John Gentleman]

On 26/07/2019 at 04:02, Space Mackerel said:

Day after, I was up in Brechin, chatting to an elder of the Cathedral, also a retired engineer, he's approx 75-80, I said Archie, what do you think about the moon landings, his answer, Yeah I watched it but the only thing missing was the strings holding up their arms.

 

I had the privilege of watching it live too, and what a privilege it was.

Sure, the video was 'jerky', but bear in mind it was shot in low resolution analogue – the equivalent of ~10 frames per second in today's money. It's a bloody miracle we got to see it live in the first place.

[Maple Leaf]

Apollo 11 experiment still working on the moon.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/world/apollo-moon-experiment-scn-trnd/index.html

[Bridge of Djoum]

On 24/07/2019 at 20:06, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Cash dripping out of my arse mate, but cheers for the offer.

Did you learn this trick in Patpong?

[Bridge of Djoum]

On 25/07/2019 at 02:43, ri Alban said:

My carer does a better job.

Questionable...

[Governor Tarkin]

1 hour ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Did you learn this trick in Patpong?

 

Close.

 

Soi Cowboy.

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Questionable...

 It's true!

Edited August 1, 2019 by ri Alban

[trotter]

Heading down to the Johnson Space Center this weekend to see some of the anniversary exhibitions (and also because I haven't been to look at rockets in a while). I'll be sure to look for anything suspicious to prove the conspiracy theorists correct. 

[jake]

7 minutes ago, trotter said:

Heading down to the Johnson Space Center this weekend to see some of the anniversary exhibitions (and also because I haven't been to look at rockets in a while). I'll be sure to look for anything suspicious to prove the conspiracy theorists correct. 

Like what ?

 

[trotter]

2 hours ago, jake said:

Like what ?

 

Offcuts of broom handles, empty rolls of tin foil, that kind of stuff.