ri Alban Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Harry Potter said: Moon rocks studied by many scientists, could not make that up. Did one not turn out to be part of a fossilised tree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Did one not turn out to be part of a fossilised tree? Not got a clue bud, maybe a rogue sample that got mixed in with the moon rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartstastic Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 How can you test something is from somewhere that nobody had been too before?. It was the Dutch goverment that had there 'moonrock' tested that was a gift from Nasa...it was found to be petrified wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The Dutch moon rock thing is clearly a case of theft. Nixon gifted the Netherlands a tiny sample of moon rock in a commemorative display stand. The original sample was 4 tiny pieces of rock weighing a total of 50milligrams encased in a clear plastic coin. In 1992, this was then donated to a museum in Amsterdam. By this time, there was a single lump of so-called "moon rock" weighing 89 grams and mounted on a gold coloured piece of cardboard. When they tested it, it was discovered to be petrified wood. The original moon rock sample had obviously been removed and substituted at some point between Nixon's giving of the piece and the 1992 donation to the museum. It's another stupid conspiracy theory that doesn't stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cade said: The Dutch moon rock thing is clearly a case of theft. Nixon gifted the Netherlands a tiny sample of moon rock in a commemorative display stand. The original sample was 4 tiny pieces of rock weighing a total of 50milligrams encased in a clear plastic coin. In 1992, this was then donated to a museum in Amsterdam. By this time, there was a single lump of so-called "moon rock" weighing 89 grams and mounted on a gold coloured piece of cardboard. When they tested it, it was discovered to be petrified wood. The original moon rock sample had obviously been removed and substituted at some point between Nixon's giving of the piece and the 1992 donation to the museum. It's another stupid conspiracy theory that doesn't stand up. Ok, if you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 It's documented fact ya bam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: Loved that film. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, heartstastic said: How can you test something is from somewhere that nobody had been too before?. It was the Dutch goverment that had there 'moonrock' tested that was a gift from Nasa...it was found to be petrified wood. Well, meteorite impacts in a near vacuum cause little glass globules to form as everything cools. That can't happen on Earth with its atmosphere. It can and does happen on Luna. That is of course just one example of a characteristic of some moon rocks, but yeah, that's one way you can test. There are hundreds of moon rocks, so people hanging their hat on the mistaken identity of the one as proof of a coverup conspiracy are pretty silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 What the Yanks gave the Dutch: What the Dutch had on display: Clearly not the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 We need more fake moon landings imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 22:44, jake said: As for facts. They change over time. F... Moon Lander Fabrication Analysis The flying bedstead that NA tested in earths gravity was inherently unstable. The LEM design seems never to have been tested in a landing scenario prior to first use. Having said that A10 LEM they say did take a close look. Did they go? The technology seems very suspect, but on the other hand I find it difficult to disbelieve the testimony of the astronauts particularly Neil Armstrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Some serious need for this article on this thread https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/about-thinking/201907/how-keep-fake-news-out-your-head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Justin Z said: Some serious need for this article on this thread https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/about-thinking/201907/how-keep-fake-news-out-your-head You've taken this a bit personal. JyeZed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, alfajambo said: Moon Lander Fabrication Analysis The flying bedstead that NA tested in earths gravity was inherently unstable. You can say that again. It damned near killed Armstrong the first time he used it. Also, I see Chris Kraft (first NASA flight director) died this morning. Edited July 23, 2019 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I don't understand conspiracy theories. Say the US didn't land on the moon. Say Bush did do 9/11. Say Kennedy was shot by whomever your nutbar hypothesis has decided. Who actually cares? What difference/point are the conspiracy lads trying to make? That governments lie? Well **** me Columbo you've fair cracked that case wide open, this is brand new information. Such a weird thing to hang your hat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I don't understand conspiracy theories. Say the US didn't land on the moon. Say Bush did do 9/11. Say Kennedy was shot by whomever your nutbar hypothesis has decided. Who actually cares? What difference/point are the conspiracy lads trying to make? That governments lie? Well **** me Columbo you've fair cracked that case wide open, this is brand new information. Such a weird thing to hang your hat on. People want to believe that they're more intelligent than they really are. Beleiving in conspiracy theories makes them think they're in on something that all of the 'sheep' aren't clever enough to understand. In reality, they're drooling idiots. Edited July 24, 2019 by Stokesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, Stokesy said: People want to believe that they're more intelligent than they really are. Beleiving in conspiracy theories makes them think they're in on something that all of the 'sheep' aren't clever enough to understand. In reality, they're drooling idiots. Believing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Anyone who thinks man has went to the moon needs their heads examined. Absolute nonsense. Imagining thinking that contraption landed on the moon!!! It would fall to pieces on a windy day down Porty beach. Over 50% of the test landings on Earth ended in catastrophic failure meaning certain death for the crew. They clearly faked traveling there by positioning the camera further back in the vehicle from the window and blacking out the inside whilst in Low Earth Orbit, you can CLEARLY see the cloud patterns. They use a piece of card to form the Terminator line. All explained from 32 mins here. Some folk are so gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 21 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I don't understand conspiracy theories. Say the US didn't land on the moon. Say Bush did do 9/11. Say Kennedy was shot by whomever your nutbar hypothesis has decided. Who actually cares? What difference/point are the conspiracy lads trying to make? That governments lie? Well **** me Columbo you've fair cracked that case wide open, this is brand new information. Such a weird thing to hang your hat on. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: Some folk are so gullible. Just . . . not the way you're thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: Just . . . not the way you're thinking. They didn't go man, not a chance. Pure hoax. You should watch the start of 2001 A Space Odyssey (filmed 1967) and then compare the start to the moon lunar photos (1969) You'll get a wee shock. Its called Front Screen Projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: They didn't go man, not a chance. Pure hoax. You should watch the start of 2001 A Space Odyssey (filmed 1967) and then compare the start to the moon lunar photos (1969) You'll get a wee shock. Its called Front Screen Projection. Dearie me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the Truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. -Carl Sagan- It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled. -Mark Twain- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Tissue paper thrust guards 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Oh look, the aerial is hanging over the side 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Despite the ACTUAL PHOTOS OF THE LANDING SITE TAKEN BY AN ORBITER FFS some people are thick as feck and determined to ignore facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Imagine quoting Carl ****ing Sagan who worked at NASA during this period in support of your howling moonbat conspiracy theory Here's Sagan on the impact the moon landings had on humanity--as usual his legendary writing and narration shine through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cade said: Despite the ACTUAL PHOTOS OF THE LANDING SITE TAKEN BY AN ORBITER FFS some people are thick as feck and determined to ignore facts. They took 3 buggies too don’t forget and had a wee drive about. Did some doughnuts in the lunar surface. 😂😂 https://www.aulis.com/deliberate_errors.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Again, there are actual photos of ALL Apollo landings sites taken in the 2000s by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. Go have a wee look ya mup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Here's NASA admitting they can't get past the Van Allen belts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Awfy funny how the pics seem alike. That Kubrick must have been a genius guessing how the moon would look like 2 years later. 🤣 https://www.aulis.com/deliberate_errors.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) You're going on ignore now you absolute tool Edited July 24, 2019 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cade said: Again, there are actual photos of ALL Apollo landings sites taken in the 2000s by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. Go have a wee look ya mup Remember how there used to be Spot the Ball in the Evening News, I delivered them 1984. How did they make the ball disappear? Then reappear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cade said: Despite the ACTUAL PHOTOS OF THE LANDING SITE TAKEN BY AN ORBITER FFS some people are thick as feck and determined to ignore facts. You’re blinkered laddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Alan Bean, Apollo 12 and Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 getting the noise of the landing a bit different. One says nothing, other says seriously loud 🤣 Bean at 13;30, Cernan at 27;25. Absolute nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Stokesy said: People want to believe that they're more intelligent than they really are. Beleiving in conspiracy theories makes them think they're in on something that all of the 'sheep' aren't clever enough to understand. In reality, they're drooling idiots. This really cannot be understated. The sudden turn in this thread--you couldn't ask for a more perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action. Taking a Carl Sagan quote about credulousness and a lack of critical thinking to support the idea that the moon landings never happened. Carl Sagan, a NASA insider, someone who was never afraid to speak out against the American and Soviet governments and their keeping us in a perpetual state of near-annihilation for decades. That, perhaps even more than his astronomy and cinematic art, was what he was known for. If any person in the universe was more scientifically qualified, better situated, or more ready to expose a moon landing hoax than Carl ****ing Sagan, I would like to know who it was. But did he? Of course not. He praised the moon landings. Why? Because they happened, and because they were an important milestone of human achievement. Likewise he took apart hoaxers--a great example is his deconstruction of Immanuel Velikovsky's similarly bizarre claims about Venus. Honestly still completely flabbergasted by bringing him into the mix. "Blinkered" indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Justin Z said: This really cannot be understated. The sudden turn in this thread--you couldn't ask for a more perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action. Taking a Carl Sagan quote about credulousness and a lack of critical thinking to support the idea that the moon landings never happened. Carl Sagan, a NASA insider, someone who was never afraid to speak out against the American and Soviet governments and their keeping us in a perpetual state of near-annihilation for decades. That, perhaps even more than his astronomy and cinematic art, was what he was known for. If any person in the universe was more scientifically qualified, better situated, or more ready to expose a moon landing hoax than Carl ****ing Sagan, I would like to know who it was. But did he? Of course not. He praised the moon landings. Why? Because they happened, and because they were an important milestone of human achievement. Likewise he took apart hoaxers--a great example is his deconstruction of Immanuel Velikovsky's similarly bizarre claims about Venus. Honestly still completely flabbergasted by bringing him into the mix. "Blinkered" indeed. You're ignoring ALL the evidence though. But thats OK I guess. Any person with a modicum of engineering knowledge and common sense sees through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Patrick Moore (RIP) getting the clearly ecstatic 🤣 first 3 men on the moon tied in knots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: Anyone who thinks man has went to the moon needs their heads examined. Absolute nonsense. Imagining thinking that contraption landed on the moon!!! It would fall to pieces on a windy day down Porty beach. Over 50% of the test landings on Earth ended in catastrophic failure meaning certain death for the crew. They clearly faked traveling there by positioning the camera further back in the vehicle from the window and blacking out the inside whilst in Low Earth Orbit, you can CLEARLY see the cloud patterns. They use a piece of card to form the Terminator line. All explained from 32 mins here. Some folk are so gullible. See testing, it's what you do to get things right. Right lads, in ye get, I know we've no tested this contraption, but didnae worry. It's sound!!! Edited July 24, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, ri Alban said: See testing, it's what you do to get things right. Right lads, in ye get, I know we've no tested this contraption, but didnae worry. It's sound!!! No worries boss, this is going out on live TV? You mean this thing has a less than 50% chance of even landing on it never mind getting us back?? I'm game!! Utter utter baloney. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: No worries boss, this is going out on live TV? You mean this thing has a less than 50% chance of even landing on it never mind getting us back?? I'm game!! Utter utter baloney. 🤣 Is there a moon? Is the world flat, or I'm a global delusional tin foilist. Edited July 24, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: Imagine quoting Carl ****ing Sagan who worked at NASA during this period in support of your howling moonbat conspiracy theory Here's Sagan on the impact the moon landings had on humanity--as usual his legendary writing and narration shine through. Contact 👌🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Is there a moon? Is the world flat, or I'm a global delusional tin foilist. Freddie Flintoff on Top Gear was going on about flath earth / moon landing type stuff the other week as he is one of them. Was astonished hearing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, sadj said: Freddie Flintoff on Top Gear was going on about flath earth / moon landing type stuff the other week as he is one of them. Was astonished hearing that The Earth is an oblate spheroid, not round. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Space Mackerel said: The Earth is an oblate spheroid, not round. 👍 Still not flat though is it , we are all (well sane people) aware its not round but trying to explain it flattens at the poles and bulges at the equator is a bit harder to explain to crazy people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the Truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. -Carl Sagan- It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled. -Mark Twain- 130,000 miles out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, alfajambo said: 130,000 miles out. Thanks for that, I rest my case. Cade will have a meltdown and hopefully an apology after he’s watched this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: No worries boss, this is going out on live TV? You mean this thing has a less than 50% chance of even landing on it never mind getting us back?? I'm game!! Utter utter baloney. 🤣 Based in your posts on JKB over the years, you claim the moon landings were a hoax, you claim that 9/11 was totally different from the official government version (a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, for example), and the massacre of children at Sandy Hook is all a lie. Is there a 'conspiracy' that I've missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Based in your posts on JKB over the years, you claim the moon landings were a hoax, you claim that 9/11 was totally different from the official government version (a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, for example), and the massacre of children at Sandy Hook is all a lie. Is there a 'conspiracy' that I've missed. Are you saying the American government doesn’t or has never used propaganda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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