Kiwidoug Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Morgan said: Doug? Why do you type ‘doon’ when you have been away from Edinburgh for so long? Because it's an absolutely great word and makes me nostalgic for the greatest city in the world. Must say though, I've heard from many sources Prague would run it close. I've never been doon there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Kiwidoug said: Because it's an absolutely great word and makes me nostalgic for the greatest city in the world. Must say though, I've heard from many sources Prague would run it close. I've never been doon there though. It’s not a ‘great word’ though, Doug. It’s not even actually a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Morgan said: It’s not a ‘great word’ though, Doug. It’s not even actually a word. Technically it is if you are having a dip in the River Doon, doon in Ayrshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 All for Scots slang. Nothing wrong with it. Scots English is perfectly acceptable imo. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Morgan said: It’s not a ‘great word’ though, Doug. It’s not even actually a word. You're right there Morgan. It's a tremendous word. Sorry for the understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Morgan said: Surprised you got that date spot on.. How come? What date spot on? The one that was in the post I quoted? Hibs sold McGinn after the start of the season which is clearly after end of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Because it's an absolutely great word and makes me nostalgic for the greatest city in the world. Must say though, I've heard from many sources Prague would run it close. I've never been doon there though. Are you from Edinburgh Doug and if so why did you leave? You’re clearly a nostalgic kind of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Inch Hearts said: Are you from Edinburgh Doug and if so why did you leave? You’re clearly a nostalgic kind of guy. Yes. Born in the Southside in 1948. First game at tynie in 1953. Moved to a London later, met a kiwi and moved here in 1974. Passionate jambo since that 1st game. Love my visits back to the city with Tynecastle being the highlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just read that there's a do on at the Usher Hall in September to celebrate Stanton's 75th birthday. That seems a bit strange to me given the size of the venue. Great Hibs player, no question of that, but the cheapest ticket is £38. Sales are slow apparently and cancellation of the event would be a major embarrassment. Surely this should have been on a much smaller scale. Not losing any sleep over it but looks like someone has got this drastically wrong. Wasn't the one for Jim Cruikshank free entry? And packed to the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Just read that there's a do on at the Usher Hall in September to celebrate Stanton's 75th birthday. That seems a bit strange to me given the size of the venue. Great Hibs player, no question of that, but the cheapest ticket is £38. Sales are slow apparently and cancellation of the event would be a major embarrassment. Surely this should have been on a much smaller scale. Not losing any sleep over it but looks like someone has got this drastically wrong. Wasn't the one for Jim Cruikshank free entry? And packed to the door. Odeon 1975 it was a good night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Just read that there's a do on at the Usher Hall in September to celebrate Stanton's 75th birthday. That seems a bit strange to me given the size of the venue. Great Hibs player, no question of that, but the cheapest ticket is £38. Sales are slow apparently and cancellation of the event would be a major embarrassment. Surely this should have been on a much smaller scale. Not losing any sleep over it but looks like someone has got this drastically wrong. Wasn't the one for Jim Cruikshank free entry? And packed to the door. I’ll be outside with a stall selling tena men! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: I’ll be outside with a stall selling tena men! I hear Wet Wet Wet are the tribute act! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Surprised there's not a few posters on here interested in attending. Pant Wetters assemble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Technically it is if you are having a dip in the River Doon, doon in Ayrshire. Fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: You're right there Morgan. It's a tremendous word. Sorry for the understatement. I was just in an awkward mood last night, Doug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Turkishcap said: Odeon 1975 it was a good night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Just read that there's a do on at the Usher Hall in September to celebrate Stanton's 75th birthday. That seems a bit strange to me given the size of the venue. Great Hibs player, no question of that, but the cheapest ticket is £38. Sales are slow apparently and cancellation of the event would be a major embarrassment. Surely this should have been on a much smaller scale. Not losing any sleep over it but looks like someone has got this drastically wrong. Wasn't the one for Jim Cruikshank free entry? And packed to the door. Tickets were £2.00, Doug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Morgan said: Tickets were £2.00, Doug. Roughly would be £8 at today's prices. Still a cheap night out compared to £38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, corryjambo said: Roughly would be £8 at today's prices. Still a cheap night out compared to £38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: Yes. Born in the Southside in 1948. First game at tynie in 1953. Moved to a London later, met a kiwi and moved here in 1974. Passionate jambo since that 1st game. Love my visits back to the city with Tynecastle being the highlight. To quote Neil Diamond: " ... except for the names, and a few other changes, if you talk about me, the story's the same one, but nowadays I'm lost between two shores ..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Sorry if already posted, but Peruvian Ron appears to have arranged another borrowing facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Martin_T said: Sorry if already posted, but Peruvian Ron appears to have arranged another borrowing facility. Nothing to see here....sweep sweep. STF would never sell to anyone he didn’t trust blah blah. Wee Ron actually can’t believe his luck all this land and a guaranteed return once he rinses the the poor wee hobos. Edited July 18, 2019 by Rudy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Martin_T said: Sorry if already posted, but Peruvian Ron appears to have arranged another borrowing facility. Isn't this good news for Hibs that another one of their debts has been paid? I don't know much about these things but this suggests that Hibs haven't arranged another borrowing facility it just allows them to borrow if they ever needed to and it says they don't need a loan just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Bet he’s actually based in Norfolk as opposed to Peru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Bet he’s actually based in Norfolk as opposed to Peru. One thing I'll be interested is in how long he actually spends in the country. Are there restrictions for tax purposes? If so we could see him appoint one of his own people to oversee things (Is there a Rodney Gordon?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: Isn't this good news for Hibs that another one of their debts has been paid? I don't know much about these things but this suggests that Hibs haven't arranged another borrowing facility it just allows them to borrow if they ever needed to and it says they don't need a loan just now. It means if they don’t live within their means he can loan them cash (not donate as they’d have you believe) if they can’t pay him back he can flog the farm and their shit pit ground and there’s not a thing they can do about it, he’s made sure of that by making sure HSL is now dead! He’s told them to pony up and he’s given zero extra income to their manager to squander on more English amateur league players. Ronnie has them by the baws! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojambo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Morgan said: As I recall there was a group and a comedian but the great Bob Crampsey was the highlight with a speech around Old Firm bias. As you say a really good night for my first hero who Hearts treated really badly. I remember him serving me in Scott's and he was quite bitter about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, scott herbertson said: One thing I'll be interested is in how long he actually spends in the country. Are there restrictions for tax purposes? If so we could see him appoint one of his own people to oversee things (Is there a Rodney Gordon?) I think he’s got a lieutenant in a floating office in the Baltic Sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: Isn't this good news for Hibs that another one of their debts has been paid? I don't know much about these things but this suggests that Hibs haven't arranged another borrowing facility it just allows them to borrow if they ever needed to and it says they don't need a loan just now. We were told they were debt free 4 weeks ago. What other lies/debts are there lurking around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm backing Arbroath. Scary prospect for our oriental friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Bet he’s actually based in Norfolk as opposed to Peru. Bet he only pretends he likes hibs, & posts big loonnng letters to the fan base😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, jamboozy said: Bet he only pretends he likes hibs, & posts big loonnng letters to the fan base😏 I’ve heard he’s compiled a lengthy and thorough psychological dossier on every supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 08:18, Turkishcap said: Odeon 1975 it was a good night Sure was, the atmosphere was brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Evening News are covering the fan scheme today Article by Charlie Reid (Proclaimers) not saying much and piece "raising concerns" with some issues and mostly interview with Jim Adie chairman of HSL who does say the fans had the chance to get a figure to get someone on board. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/charlie-reid-hibs-fans-must-work-together-to-reach-hsl-goal-1-4967549 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-takeover-raises-concerns-over-fans-stake-in-club-1-4967552 Edited July 19, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Evening News are covering the fan scheme today Article by Charlie Reid (Proclaimers) not saying much and piece "raising concerns" with some issues and mostly interview with Jim Adie chairman of HSL who does say the fans had the chance to get a figure to get someone on board. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/charlie-reid-hibs-fans-must-work-together-to-reach-hsl-goal-1-4967549 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-takeover-raises-concerns-over-fans-stake-in-club-1-4967552 Start at 01:20: *snigger* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 So... old Charlie put in a pretty difficult position there. He was their poster boy for HSL and was behind the rallying calls. Now he’s got to try and make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and pretend he’s happy about the scheme’s abject failure to achieve their objective of meaningful fan-ownership. I particularly like how he’s started to nervously eye that 12% shareholding that nobody knows who owns: ”I see no reason why our fellow shareholders will not want to join the collective that is HSL. We need to remind everyone that 33% only adds up if everyone votes. If we the supporters really want to have a 25.1% stake in our club, that will be exercised, it is for us to organise ourselves accordingly.” Sounds like rebellion talk to me. I seriously hope that those dodgy shell companies that own the 12% he has his beady eyes on are owned by someone who doesn’t give a Dick about the fans. 😄 Come on Hibbies, time to 🐴⬆️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
better_call_saul Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: So... old Charlie put in a pretty difficult position there. He was their poster boy for HSL and was behind the rallying calls. Now he’s got to try and make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and pretend he’s happy about the scheme’s abject failure to achieve their objective of meaningful fan-ownership. I particularly like how he’s started to nervously eye that 12% shareholding that nobody knows who owns: ”I see no reason why our fellow shareholders will not want to join the collective that is HSL. We need to remind everyone that 33% only adds up if everyone votes. If we the supporters really want to have a 25.1% stake in our club, that will be exercised, it is for us to organise ourselves accordingly.” Sounds like rebellion talk to me. I seriously hope that those dodgy shell companies that own the 12% he has his beady eyes on are owned by someone who doesn’t give a Dick about the fans. 😄 Come on Hibbies, time to 🐴⬆️ Well that’s the point, isn’t it? Any chance HSL have of being a credible aspect of the club is dependent on them achieving a 25.1% shareholding. This, in turn, would only be possible if HSL purchase enough shares from holders out with of RG. It's basically a call (plead) to arms asking for all 'supporters' to fall under the same banner. If Ron would have been happy with an HSL board member, it would have been announced at their very first press conference in order to keep everyone on board. A lot of this animosity would have been easily quelled IMO. I’m not overly savvy in some aspects of how the share purchases can take place. Can HSL make an offer to the other shareholders? If so, can Ron then make a counter offer in an attempt to outbid them? Farmer was selling HSL shares at very much discounted prices (4p a share), would these, as yet unknown, punters be willing to sell their shares at a fraction of the price? Interesting times ahead indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, better_call_saul said: Well that’s the point, isn’t it? Any chance HSL have of being a credible aspect of the club is dependent on them achieving a 25.1% shareholding. This, in turn, would only be possible if HSL purchase enough shares from holders out with of RG. It's basically a call (plead) to arms asking for all 'supporters' to fall under the same banner. If Ron would have been happy with an HSL board member, it would have been announced at their very first press conference in order to keep everyone on board. A lot of this animosity would have been easily quelled IMO. I’m not overly savvy in some aspects of how the share purchases can take place. Can HSL make an offer to the other shareholders? If so, can Ron then make a counter offer in an attempt to outbid them? Farmer was selling HSL shares at very much discounted prices (4p a share), would these, as yet unknown, punters be willing to sell their shares at a fraction of the price? Interesting times ahead indeed. Wonder who owns the 12%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I particularly like how he’s started to nervously eye that 12% shareholding that nobody knows who owns: The 12.4% that the 18 x Nominee companies held has been diluted to 9.9%, just as HSL's holding was diluted from 18.8% to 15.4%. They now need HSL plus all the Nominee companies to vote together to get to a blocking figure of 25.3%. Edited July 19, 2019 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Footballfirst said: The 12.4% that the Nominee companies held has been diluted to 9.9%, just as HSL's holding was diluted from 18.8% to 15.4%. They now need HSL plus all the Nominee companies to vote together to get to 25.3%. Never even considered that actually. That’s a wee bit too on the money for my liking actually. Makes me wonder if this was taken in to account from the start. Less hopeful that these nominees have nefarious motives when it’s such a nice neat coincidence like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Never even considered that actually. That’s a wee bit too on the money for my liking actually. Makes me wonder if this was taken in to account from the start. Less hopeful that these nominees have nefarious motives when it’s such a nice neat coincidence like that. The Nominee companies holdings: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The Nominee companies holdings: Surely that's just one person or company that owns all these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Lovecraft said: Surely that's just one person or company that owns all these? I don't know about one person, but the share purchases were all too coordinated not to be linked in some way. Seven Nominees purchased shares during 2015, with the remainder buying in the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Lovecraft said: Surely that's just one person or company that owns all these? I have always suspected so. Rod and Tom were always my suspicion. Although now I’m beginning to think that they way Ron’s takeover has diluted everyone else’s shareholding to exactly 25.1%, that this is all planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Surely that's just one person or company that owns all these? Names are similar grouping. Tom Farmer or family? In any case doubt it changes much. HSL is insignificant. Talk of some voting grouping seems fanciful. And what would they be voting on versus 67% majority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I have always suspected so. Rod and Tom were always my suspicion. Although now I’m beginning to think that they way Ron’s takeover has diluted everyone else’s shareholding to exactly 25.1%, that this is all planned. I suggested earlier in the thread that the timing of the takeover was to stop HSL gaining the 25%. I wonder if Dempster has any shares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: I suggested earlier in the thread that the timing of the takeover was to stop HSL gaining the 25%. I wonder if Dempster has any shares? I hope that is the reason. The alternative of course, is that Ron wanted a controlling shareholding, but it was orchestrated in such a way that there was always going to be 25% of shares available for the fans to buy. I guess we will find out when HSL contact the nominees and propose a consortium/merger. I'm still hoping the nominees have zero interest in working with HSL, and they tell them to go and get knotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Dempster had a foot in both camps. The ER board and the HSL board. You can't serve two masters. I believe HSL were blindsided and shafted bigtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: Dempster had a foot in both camps. The ER board and the HSL board. You can't serve two masters. I believe HSL were blindsided and shafted bigtime. But as their Chairman says in EEN they had 4 years to get the amount to get a seat on the board and they didn't. I don't think they can complain too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/leeann-dempster-outlines-hibs-share-deals-1-3694737 From 2015 Hibs’ move towards fan ownership at Easter Road – offering supporters the chance to buy up to 51 per cent of the shares in the Capital club – has provoked plenty of debate since it was unveiled almost two months ago. Under the scheme, fans will ultimately own both the stadium and training centre at East Mains, with up to £2.5 million being raised, all of which will be poured into the football club to “help fund sporting ambition.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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