Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Bit harsh on Muirhead, Tzolis, Struna, Novak, Augustyn,kitchen, Callaghan & McLean to class them as duds . Muirhead scored two tap ins against Rangers, was our worst player that night. Did absolutely nothing else, just been released by Dunfermline, the very essence of a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Can you post your idea of a balanced squad for next season, Feel free to include reasonable targetted rumours (max 3 or 4) eg Charlie Adam. Shankland. If when you've finished you have players left over who are currently under contract can you let us know how you're going to get rid of them at an affordable cost. I think Halkett is an excellent signing. I also hope that we don't block the path of youngsters such as Cochrane, Irving, Conor Smith and Hickey. By all means buy an established senior player as first pick but we don't need countless journeyman as back ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I think Halkett is an excellent signing. I also hope that we don't block the path of youngsters such as Cochrane, Irving, Conor Smith and Hickey. By all means buy an established senior player as first pick but we don't need countless journeyman as back ups. Good point. I think the young one will be used as back up more now and that hopefully a few impress. Probably the first year since admin where I'd expect to see that more, remember that most of these guys are 16-18, that's very young. That should mean less journeymen and allow a better quality of player to be bought. We couldn't do that before, tho- we simply had guys that were too young and some not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Muirhead scored two tap ins against Rangers, was our worst player that night. Did absolutely nothing else, just been released by Dunfermline, the very essence of a dud. Fair enough, I haven’t followed his career since he left. He was one who I thought never got a fair chance when with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I think Halkett is an excellent signing. I also hope that we don't block the path of youngsters such as Cochrane, Irving, Conor Smith and Hickey. By all means buy an established senior player as first pick but we don't need countless journeyman as back ups. I imagine some will go out on loan to get game time. Tricky balancing the long term with the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, stevie1874 said: Fair enough, I haven’t followed his career since he left. He was one who I thought never got a fair chance when with us. My mates is a Pars fan, he asked me if he was any good and I was brutally honest. He wasn’t really here that long, has all the attributes but something not quite right. He thinks he’s a forward, I think he will end up as a left back most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I think Halkett is an excellent signing. I also hope that we don't block the path of youngsters such as Cochrane, Irving, Conor Smith and Hickey. By all means buy an established senior player as first pick but we don't need countless journeyman as back ups. CL has stated numerous times that, depending on the player, too much first team exposure can have a negative effect and that in most cases picking up a game here and there is the best way for them to develop without the pressure of performing week in week out at that age. With that in mind and the injuries we suffered last season then the so called journeymen are most definitely needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I imagine some will go out on loan to get game time. Tricky balancing the long term with the short term. Any youngster that is genuinely going to make it, should be claiming a first team spot on merit by the time they are 18/19. Realistically if Cochrane is going to make it, the Hearts first team is actually the lowest standard of football he will be playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, David McCaig said: Any youngster that is genuinely going to make it, should be claiming a first team spot on merit by the time they are 18/19. Realistically if Cochrane is going to make it, the Hearts first team is actually the lowest standard of football he will be playing. 18/19...really? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ribble said: CL has stated numerous times that, depending on the player, too much first team exposure can have a negative effect and that in most cases picking up a game here and there is the best way for them to develop without the pressure of performing week in week out at that age. With that in mind and the injuries we suffered last season then the so called journeymen are most definitely needed. I take your point but there is a middle ground between over playing the kids and someone like Irving being blocked by Lee/Bozanic/Edwards. Cochrane and Irving could probably have been used in rotation and Connor Smith is well worth a spot on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: 18/19...really? ? Yes, I would expect a player with genuine aspirations of playing in the English Premier League/Championship to be more than good enough to play SPL at 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said: Steven MacLean was ****ing dreadful for large periods of the season. Anyone who disagrees didn’t watch Hearts past October. One good old performance in the cup final doesn’t change that. I wonder why that would be ? a 37 year old playing up front on his own without Uche creating space and Naismith playing alongside him, The fact that we tried to use him as a target man or the fact that we brought him into be squad player and he ended up starting every week. he was excellent when he had support around him, he obviously isn’t the long term option, not will be play every game, but he’s still an option in some games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I think Halkett is an excellent signing. I also hope that we don't block the path of youngsters such as Cochrane, Irving, Conor Smith and Hickey. By all means buy an established senior player as first pick but we don't need countless journeyman as back ups. C'mon don't be shy. You were able to tell us what went wrong last season. To help us, and the club, tell us what the situation should be for next season. What you've said above doesn't really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Dunphy said: I’m sorry, but no. This isn’t even true. That period between the semi at Murrayfield and Naismith coming back into the team, he was ****ing horrendous. Not unlucky. Awful. He played well well in the cup final and the last game at Easter Road, I’ll give you that. But anyone who thinks he was at an acceptable level for much of the season last season didn’t watch an awful lot of Hearts. EDIT: Lot of goals. Seven goals in total. Including 3 against Cowdenbeath and Auchinleck. Sparkling. You’re entitled to your opinion but you come across rather angry so might want to tone it back a bit, it’s just a forum. not once did I say lots of goals, so if you’re going to come back with something at least make it accurate, otherwise you’ll build up a reputation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: But he didn’t and it was no where a winner, no matter how badly you put it. Some really average players have scored for us in cup finals, he’s played 4 games for us after being so far out the picture that only an injury crisis got him back in the reckoning. Right so you’ve missed the point completely, which isn’t surprising to be honest instead of trying to chip in to me replying to another poster try and actually get what I was trying to say. Edwards was classed as a dud (because according to one notoriously awful poster we sign 10 duds and only one player is decent - which i was able to quickly disprove by confirming that a mere two/three signings out of the many we signed didn’t work out) and I merely pointed out that he’s only played a handful of games, actually getting better in each game and scoring a goal in a cup final. All things that merit him away from being a dud stop jumping on every opportunity to berate the team, the manger, folks posts, it’s folk like you who clog threads up with the same repetitive guff over and over. Away wi ye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Sign up and coming Scottish players with a track record at First Team level ala Halkett Not flooding the squad with lower league journeyman. Offer opportunities for youth players to fill in for small periods of time. No more than 1 or 2 project players... At 1 point last year we were carrying Amankwaa, Mulraney, Clare and Wighton. Don't sign anyone without watching them in person... Signing solely off YouTube should be a sacking offence!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Absolute Scenes said: Right so you’ve missed the point completely, which isn’t surprising to be honest instead of trying to chip in to me replying to another poster try and actually get what I was trying to say. Edwards was classed as a dud (because according to one notoriously awful poster we sign 10 duds and only one player is decent - which i was able to quickly disprove by confirming that a mere two/three signings out of the many we signed didn’t work out) and I merely pointed out that he’s only played a handful of games, actually getting better in each game and scoring a goal in a cup final. All things that merit him away from being a dud stop jumping on every opportunity to berate the team, the manger, folks posts, it’s folk like you who clog threads up with the same repetitive guff over and over. Away wi ye No I got your point and it was total nonsense, sorry if that hurts. If you want repetitive just look at your own posts, no need to reply and clog up the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Right so you’ve missed the point completely, which isn’t surprising to be honest instead of trying to chip in to me replying to another poster try and actually get what I was trying to say. Edwards was classed as a dud (because according to one notoriously awful poster we sign 10 duds and only one player is decent - which i was able to quickly disprove by confirming that a mere two/three signings out of the many we signed didn’t work out) and I merely pointed out that he’s only played a handful of games, actually getting better in each game and scoring a goal in a cup final. All things that merit him away from being a dud stop jumping on every opportunity to berate the team, the manger, folks posts, it’s folk like you who clog threads up with the same repetitive guff over and over. Away wi ye By the same token Haring is the only signing that you could unequivocally call a success and ironically that wasn't in the position he was signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Dunphy said: El Hassnaoui, Anderson, Reilly, Swanson, Dauda, Sammon, Muirhead, Rherras, Noring, Sowah, Tzolis, Avlonitis, Watt, Choulay, Struna, Bikey, Martin, Nowak, Stockton, Grzelak, Amankwaa, Oshaniwa, Augustyn, Kitchen, Smith-Brown, Callachan, MacLean and Vanecek. There’s a list of absolute duds we have wasted a powerful amount of money on in the past 4 years. All overseen by one man. John Murray. Whereas other clubs have made consistently great signings over only 2 seasons Stevie Mallan Barnsley FC 200 Th. € Florian Kamberi Grasshoppers 130 Th. € Mark Milligan Ahli Free Transfer Daryl Horgan Preston NE ? Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth Loan Thomas Agyepong Man City U23 Loan Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Ryan Gauld Sporting CP Loan Ádám Bogdán Liverpool Loan Marc McNulty Reading Loan Stephane Omeonga Genoa Loan Darnell Johnson Leicester U23 Loan Gaël Bigirimana Motherwell FC ? Miquel Nelom Without Club Vykintas Slivka Juventus 100 Th. € Anthony Stokes Blackburn Free Transfer Simon Murray Dundee United Free Transfer Cammy Bell Kilmarnock FC Free Transfer Steven Whittaker Norwich Free Transfer Danny Swanson St. Johnstone Free Transfer Deivydas Matulevicius Mouscron Free Transfer Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Scott Bain Dundee FC Loan Faycal Rherras KV Mechelen Loan Simon Murray Dundee FC End of loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: I never wanted newco to pick up thier first trophy. You do go on about hibs winning the cup an awful lot tho. It's a thread about DV leaving and you managed to get a mention of it. Well done. Look up communication, you'll see that it's made up of lot of different parts. You might even learn something. Its funny reading folks comments at you who have their backs against the wall when disagreeing with you, or when you dismantle their poor effort at “facts”, or are showing themselves up big time, they come back with the same thing about Hibs winning the cup ??? talk about moon howling at its best eh they talk all about it more than it’s ever mentioned by you, quite frightening really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Sign up and coming Scottish players with a track record at First Team level ala Halkett Not flooding the squad with lower league journeyman. Offer opportunities for youth players to fill in for small periods of time. No more than 1 or 2 project players... At 1 point last year we were carrying Amankwaa, Mulraney, Clare and Wighton. Don't sign anyone without watching them in person... Signing solely off YouTube should be a sacking offence!! Seems fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, JamboAl said: C'mon don't be shy. You were able to tell us what went wrong last season. To help us, and the club, tell us what the situation should be for next season. What you've said above doesn't really help. We know the answer. No injuries and we finish probably not third but comfortably fourth (although third and fourth finished on the same points) No injuries and no bids for players we cruise it. Also ignore injuries and players leaving other sides ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, WageThief said: Whereas other clubs have made consistently great signings over only 2 seasons Stevie Mallan Barnsley FC 200 Th. € Florian Kamberi Grasshoppers 130 Th. € Mark Milligan Ahli Free Transfer Daryl Horgan Preston NE ? Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth Loan Thomas Agyepong Man City U23 Loan Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Ryan Gauld Sporting CP Loan Ádám Bogdán Liverpool Loan Marc McNulty Reading Loan Stephane Omeonga Genoa Loan Darnell Johnson Leicester U23 Loan Gaël Bigirimana Motherwell FC ? Miquel Nelom Without Club Vykintas Slivka Juventus 100 Th. € Anthony Stokes Blackburn Free Transfer Simon Murray Dundee United Free Transfer Cammy Bell Kilmarnock FC Free Transfer Steven Whittaker Norwich Free Transfer Danny Swanson St. Johnstone Free Transfer Deivydas Matulevicius Mouscron Free Transfer Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Scott Bain Dundee FC Loan Faycal Rherras KV Mechelen Loan Simon Murray Dundee FC End of loan You could argue all day long about those signings and whether they were a success, not one of them is a high earner on a long term deal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: By the same token Haring is the only signing that you could unequivocally call a success and ironically that wasn't in the position he was signed. Again, complete and utter dross. if you care to look back and actually read where my post started you’ll again, see what I was responding to. Interestingly enough, not once did I mention all those players were successes, what I did was point out the obvious that only 2/3 of the many players we signed were “duds” the rest played games, did their part, some more than others. It was quite clear, it was there for you to read, not sure why you’re still referencing me using “success” to describe players. A player isn’t either a success or a dud, it’s not black and white like that. let me know if you need anything else obvious explained as you seem to be struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: No I got your point and it was total nonsense, sorry if that hurts. If you want repetitive just look at your own posts, no need to reply and clog up the thread. Brilliant reply, really well thought out. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Absolute Scenes said: Again, complete and utter dross. if you care to look back and actually read where my post started you’ll again, see what I was responding to. Interestingly enough, not once did I mention all those players were successes, what I did was point out the obvious that only 2/3 of the many players we signed were “duds” the rest played games, did their part, some more than others. It was quite clear, it was there for you to read, not sure why you’re still referencing me using “success” to describe players. A player isn’t either a success or a dud, it’s not black and white like that. let me know if you need anything else obvious explained as you seem to be struggling Did they play their part? Relying on these players in the absence of Naismith saw us dropping points like confetti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, David McCaig said: Did they play their part? Relying on these players in the absence of Naismith saw us dropping points like confetti. Simple question: were 14 of the following players duds or not: Edwards Uche Naismith Haring Bozanic Lee Garrucio Burns Mulraney Clare McLean Dunne Shaugnessy Wighton Vanacek Yes or no answer is all that’s needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You could argue all day long about those signings and whether they were a success, not one of them is a high earner on a long term deal though. Who would you take? I’d probably take Omeonga and maybe Kamberi. My Hibs mates said he was absolutely chronic last year and a complete waste of a high salary but he was decent during his loan spell so worth a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You could argue all day long about those signings and whether they were a success, not one of them is a high earner on a long term deal though. Far more than one of them was a high earner on a long term deal. I would make the point but you'll only respond by changing to another point. Or just choosing a word I use and 'riffing' on it. Eg. "Points? Levein would know about them right enough eh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Simple question: were 14 of the following players duds or not: Edwards Uche Naismith Haring Bozanic Lee Garrucio Burns Mulraney Clare McLean Dunne Shaugnessy Wighton Vanacek Yes or no answer is all that’s needed Sammon and oshaniwa and every signing basically since promotion season. Horrendous...almost every one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, WageThief said: Far more than one of them was a high earner on a long term deal. I would make the point but you'll only respond by changing to another point. Or just choosing a word I use and 'riffing' on it. Eg. "Points? Levein would know about them right enough eh?" Which ones were high earners on long term deals? Apart from Kamberi. Edited June 18, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Simple question: were 14 of the following players duds or not: Edwards - dud Uche - success Naismith -success Haring - success Bozanic - dud Lee - dud Garrucio - dud Burns - success Mulraney - dud Clare - dud McLean - dud Dunne - success Shaugnessy - dud Wighton - dud Vanacek - dud Yes or no answer is all that’s needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Who would you take? I’d probably take Omeonga and maybe Kamberi. My Hibs mates said he was absolutely chronic last year and a complete waste of a high salary but he was decent during his loan spell so worth a punt. Im not sure I would want any Hibs player to be honest, the point is most of them were on loan or short term deals. To answer your question I think McNulty and Kamberi would help us, we were in for McNulty and Maclaren. Omeonga looked good but didn’t really do much. Yet they still finished above us the last two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Which ones were high earners on long term deals? Whittaker Kamberi Stokes Slivka Mallan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You could argue all day long about those signings and whether they were a success, not one of them is a high earner on a long term deal though. Kamberi, Whittaker & Slivka im guessing on 2-3 year deals and decent dosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Im not sure I would want any Hibs player to be honest, the point is most of them were on loan or short term deals. To answer your question I think McNulty and Kamberi would help us, we were in for McNulty and Maclaren. Omeonga looked good but didn’t really do much. Yet they still finished above us the last two seasons. That brings its own issues with rebuilds every year which is something hopefully we’re moving away from. I’ve got a bigger issue with how to get the most out of the players we’ve got. Since Levein took over as manager I don’t think his recruitment has been as bad as folk are making out. Especially when you look at that list of Hibs. Both signed a lot of very average players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WageThief said: Whittaker Kamberi Stokes Slivka Mallan Mallan was their top goal scorer last season. Kamberi scored 8 goals in 33 games last season and played wide left a bit and cost less than Clare or Wighton. Slivka has done ok for them, didnt know he started his career at Juve but not a dud. Stokes was emptied after a few months so yes a dud but not too costly. Whittaker definitely, 3 year deal, injury prone and we were after him before he went back there. Edited June 18, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, J80MBO said: Sammon and oshaniwa and every signing basically since promotion season. Horrendous...almost every one. Oh my days another one ??? clearly you're not too bright little snowflake so I won’t use long sentences. players quote, all from this season same applies, previous seasons hope all makes sense, bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevie1874 said: Kamberi, Whittaker & Slivka im guessing on 2-3 year deals and decent dosh. Didn’t know Slivkas cv, but yes those three but only Whittaker is a dud which was the point I was trying to make. It’s still not that many compared to us. We paid more for Wighton and Clare than they did for Kamberi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Clearly not old enough to use adult forums so you’re best ignored ? entitled to your opinion, but you haven’t watched hearts much or at all this season to come out with drivel like that. good chat wee man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, WageThief said: Whittaker Kamberi Stokes Slivka Mallan Exactly, every one of these players would be getting slated on here if they wore maroon last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, stevie1874 said: Exactly, every one of these players would be getting slated on here if they wore maroon last season. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, stevie1874 said: Fair point regarding none were a success, but I’d have Tzolis in my Hearts team today. His race was run the day he came off the park at Pittodrie in his immaculate white shirt. 57 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I wonder why that would be ? a 37 year old playing up front on his own without Uche creating space and Naismith playing alongside him, The fact that we tried to use him as a target man or the fact that we brought him into be squad player and he ended up starting every week. he was excellent when he had support around him, he obviously isn’t the long term option, not will be play every game, but he’s still an option in some games. I'm sorry, but 2 goals (including one against a Junior side) in 2019 is not the return we should be expecting from any striker at Hearts. 37 years old and can only contribute when Steven Naismith is on the park. Should be binned. He's not good enough. 3 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said: Not really true, he had a lot of unmerited criticism just because of his age, posters expected him to be bad, but when he showed them up to actually be a decent footballer, folk were waiting for him to make one mistake so he could be slated. Sad really In actual fact he scored a lot of decent goals this season and stepped in when no other striker was available. 50 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: You’re entitled to your opinion but you come across rather angry so might want to tone it back a bit, it’s just a forum. not once did I say lots of goals, so if you’re going to come back with something at least make it accurate, otherwise you’ll build up a reputation Your own words, champ. 40 minutes ago, WageThief said: Whereas other clubs have made consistently great signings over only 2 seasons Stevie Mallan Barnsley FC 200 Th. € Florian Kamberi Grasshoppers 130 Th. € Mark Milligan Ahli Free Transfer Daryl Horgan Preston NE ? Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth Loan Thomas Agyepong Man City U23 Loan Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Ryan Gauld Sporting CP Loan Ádám Bogdán Liverpool Loan Marc McNulty Reading Loan Stephane Omeonga Genoa Loan Darnell Johnson Leicester U23 Loan Gaël Bigirimana Motherwell FC ? Miquel Nelom Without Club Vykintas Slivka Juventus 100 Th. € Anthony Stokes Blackburn Free Transfer Simon Murray Dundee United Free Transfer Cammy Bell Kilmarnock FC Free Transfer Steven Whittaker Norwich Free Transfer Danny Swanson St. Johnstone Free Transfer Deivydas Matulevicius Mouscron Free Transfer Jamie Maclaren SV Darmstadt 98 Loan Scott Bain Dundee FC Loan Faycal Rherras KV Mechelen Loan Simon Murray Dundee FC End of loan What Hibs do is irrelevant, though. We're not discussing their transfer record, we're discussing Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: That brings its own issues with rebuilds every year which is something hopefully we’re moving away from. I’ve got a bigger issue with how to get the most out of the players we’ve got. Since Levein took over as manager I don’t think his recruitment has been as bad as folk are making out. Especially when you look at that list of Hibs. Both signed a lot of very average players. Indeed but they’ve not got the amount of average players on longer term deals, and they obviously got more from them than we did. You can never be sure about a player but we have given the likes of Uche and Haring new deals through the season when we realised their worth, shorter term deals are probably the future or at least a break clause after a year of a three year deal. I would like us to be leading the way with deals, not saying it’s ok we’ve wasted money because everyone else has. To try and compete at the top of the league mistakes have to be rectified and minimised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Didn’t know Slivkas cv, but yes those three but only Whittaker is a dud which was the point I was trying to make. It’s still not that many compared to us. We paid more for Wighton and Clare than they did for Kamberi. It’s all opinions I suppose but Kamberi was absolutely woeful every time I watched him last season, your being very generous to Slivka also. While were talking about Hibs players somebody mentioned taking Omeonga who is possibly the most overrated player of the season, runs about a lot but does very little with the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Mallan was their top goal scorer last season. Kamberi scores 8 goals in 33 games last season and played wide left a bit. Slivka has done ok for them, didnt know he started his career at Juve but not a dud. Stokes was emptied after a few months so yes a dud but not too costly. Whittaker definitely, 3 year deal, injury prone and we were after him before he went back there. You have done exactly what I said you'd do although in a more bizarre and unusual fashion than you usually do. "None of that list are high earners" "Aaah but they aren't duds" "Yeah three are duds but that was the point I was trying to make...." Deary me - about as efficient as one of Lord's commandments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Did they play their part? Relying on these players in the absence of Naismith saw us dropping points like confetti. Oi oi oi. We nearly won 0-0 a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, WageThief said: You have done exactly what I said you'd do although in a more bizarre and unusual fashion than you usually do. "None of that list are high earners" "Aaah but they aren't duds" "Yeah three are duds but that was the point I was trying to make...." Deary me - about as efficient as one of Lord's commandments. He’s truly lost the plot eh? guy can’t keep track of what he’s saying to who. Is he Neil Lennon? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: His race was run the day he came off the park at Pittodrie in his immaculate white shirt. I'm sorry, but 2 goals (including one against a Junior side) in 2019 is not the return we should be expecting from any striker at Hearts. 37 years old and can only contribute when Steven Naismith is on the park. Should be binned. He's not good enough. Your own words, champ. What Hibs do is irrelevant, though. We're not discussing their transfer record, we're discussing Hearts. To be fair I meant the goals he scored were decent, but can see how it looked when I read it back. He didn’t score lots but the goals he did score were still goals and made a difference. Even coming on to score against Rangers when no one else could be bothered to turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Its funny reading folks comments at you who have their backs against the wall when disagreeing with you, or when you dismantle their poor effort at “facts”, or are showing themselves up big time, they come back with the same thing about Hibs winning the cup ??? talk about moon howling at its best eh they talk all about it more than it’s ever mentioned by you, quite frightening really They talk about it more than hibs fans. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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