***Heart Of Midlothian v Glasgow Rangers Official Match Day Thread***

[ToadKiller Dog]

I want Levein to say he will step aside after the cup final. 

Anything else will jyst be crap. 

[Jambo, Goodbye]

9 minutes ago, Jodami said:

You would have hoped that playing for a place in the cup final would be motivation to perform. The amount of time and space their players had was embarrassing. 

 Most of them don't need to worry.  They won't get dropped when the back-up is championship level at best. 

 

 

[1874robbo]

Not one bad tackle in the game!!

says it all for me about the desire and passion 

 

[JackLadd]

1 minute ago, 1874robbo said:

Not one bad tackle in the game!!

says it all for me about the desire and passion 

 

 

Just no fight, why is it Hibs seem to set about this mob? 

[Tommy Brown]

Rangers have beaten Celtic and Aberdeen once, failed to beat Hibs and Killie and beat us all 4 times

[Chester™]

Levein v Rangers:

Played 24
Won 1
Drawn 3
Lost 20
For 13
Against 51

Currently on a 0-7 run since he returned to the dugout. Thats an awful lot of 'individual mistakes'.

[ToadKiller Dog]

12 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

 

 

How, he was correct and two players made bad mistakes. 

 

How does that make him clueless? 

What he said pre match was correct. 

And who's job is it to try to stop that happening time and time again. 

 

It was more than individual errors the defence was cut through with ease time and again, without the Orcs getting out of second gear. 

4 straight defeats to rangers only the first game at Tynecastle did we deserve anything. 

[jambopilms]

Decent players playing badly and getting worse. Management.

[3fingersreid]

Pathetic performance ,2-0 down and no changes at half time ???

 

More worryingly from my own point of view is I don’t care about it as much as I usually do , I’ve been bored to apathy . 

 

Will  I be brave enough to not renew ?

[Hairdryer]

6 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

 

Just no fight, why is it Hibs seem to set about this mob? 

Because hibs have better players and believe they can get a result against rangers not go into the match frightened 

[1874robbo]

7 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

 

Just no fight, why is it Hibs seem to set about this mob? 

Maybe they have a manager who’ll tell them to get wired in?

maybe they have more respect for their fans who’re paying their wages to sit back and be the old firms bitches!!!

 

[pettigrewsstylist]

26 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Is it tho? 

 

Or do we need to add a few good players in the  summer?

 

We were shite today, and again individual mistakes cost us. 

 

Don't think that means something is rotten to the core. 

 

 

Absolutley...festering even

[maroonnicky63]

2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Maybe they have a manager who’ll tell them to get wired in?

maybe they have more respect for their fans who’re paying their wages to sit back and be the old firms bitches!!!

 

You do not pay the players wages, why do people say that

[pettigrewsstylist]

25 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

7 straight defeats to Sevco ffs. It isn't acceptable.  

Of which, 3 this season would have been stopped after 45 mins, if boxing rules applied???

[gashauskis9]

1 hour ago, Scott980612 said:

“Get it up ye”  celebration ? 

haha 

That’s just his normal goal celebration, wouldn’t get excited about it.

[innerjambo]

53 minutes ago, Barack said:

Lafferty was shite. 

 

Did nothing when he came on!

 

He plays for the opposition, who won the game while reading the paper, smoking cigars, and checking for dirt under their nails.

[Scallywag]

That was simply one of the worst Hearts performances I have seen. Players look like they don't understand tactics, no pace, no energy, no movement, can't pass and not motivated. Something is badly wrong.

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

Most teams when they get a late goal raise their games at least but not us. Right back to retreating into our own half again. Where is the leadership driving our ambitions. Not there. 

[1874robbo]

10 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said:

You do not pay the players wages, why do people say that

Everything I contribute through shop purchases and season tickets I buy goes to players wages amongst other things.

my foh subs I know doesn’t so please don’t confuse that I’m thinking that.

Edited April 20, 2019 by 1874robbo

[heartsfc_fan]

That was awful.

Two changes should've been made at half time.

 

No urgency. Lack of pressing. Nobody except Zlamal stood out.

[Robbo-Jambo]

39 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

 

 

How, he was correct and two players made bad mistakes. 

 

How does that make him clueless? 

What he said pre match was correct. 

Eh !! how was he correct.

 

HE stated we need to start the game well - we didn't. Be up for it - we weren't.

 

Cut out individual errors  - we didn't   Lose an early goal - we did

 

All the points he said in his press conference we failed to do any of them.

 

Its his job to motivate them to carry out his instructions but we didn't or do the team just ignore what he says.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by Robbo-Jambo

[martoon]

Sadly, a dress rehearsal for the final, I fear. Slow start, feeble, not at the races and game over by half time. 

 

We're in the final because of the luck of the draw. No other reason. 

 

Nephew and I left before McLean's goal. Depressing, soul destroying stuff. It reminded me of defeats in the '80/81 season when tools were downed and we just went through the motion of turning up, taking defeat then shuffling off the field. 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by martoon
anger

[Nelly Terraces]

56 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I agree. 

 

We're a football club, clues in the name. Heart of Midlothian Football Club. 

 

If the football is trash then we're failing in our objective. 

 

The football is trash and we are failing in our objective. 

 

Budge needs to serious review Leveins position. We've little to no chance of bagging another win to the end the season. We're going to take a pumping off Celtic before the cup final guaranteed. Whoever makes that trip has my utmost respect and sympathy. Should be mega loyalty points on offer for that shitshow to come.

 

Instead of shutting sections, she should be focused on doing everything she can to make sure the product on the park is worth what the supporters put into the club. Its currently so far below that its insulting. 

100% spot on.

[The Doc]

Olly will be the last man standing when it comes to defending Levein.

 

It’s just his way.

 

He’s completely wrong but it’s just his way.

 

 

 

[pettigrewsstylist]

11 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said:

That’s just his normal goal celebration, wouldn’t get excited about it.

Very rare ??

[portobellojambo1]

That was very poor today, but just not unexpected. The frightening thing is if we play like that In the final versus Celtic the scoreline could get pretty scary.

 

I didn't think we would pick up any points from the 5 post split fixtures and I saw nothing today to make me reconsider that. I was even tempted just to walk out after 60 minutes, because the game was over long before then. Eventually left after 85 minutes, bored out my tits.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by portobellojambo1

[Robbo-Jambo]

9 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

Most teams when they get a late goal raise their games at least but not us. Right back to retreating into our own half again. Where is the leadership driving our ambitions. Not there. 

Basically we were happy for the result to end in a 3 one defeat.

 

You are correct there is lack of fight and leadership.

 

We need a Pressley or Hartley type in the team,

[OmiyaHearts]

55 minutes ago, iantjambo said:

 

Wish we scored with the last kick.

Just to **** his day up a bit.

 

Hope he's buying a round!

He is, fair play to him. 

 

Anyway, too nice a day to get bothered about this. Down to the beach with beer.

[Geoff the Mince]

1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

I'm not at the game because all Proper Hearts Men are all ready boycotting Lheveins Tynecaste, so can someone who's there add in an extra BOOOO for me, ta. 

 

?

Drove along Gorgie Road at half time , there was an exodus of Hearts chaps like  biblical proportions .

 

Unless they all came out to see me .

[rick witter]

On 18/04/2019 at 19:32, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Take it you don't get many coupons up?

I got one up today anyway. Was free money today on Rangers HT/FT. 

Aswell making a few quid until this clown in charge is away. Plenty more to be made this season aswell. 

[Fareastjambo]

If Craig's demeanour in interviews and press conferences is the same in the changing room then it's no wonder the players play the way they played today!  

[Robbo-Jambo]

15 minutes ago, The Doc said:

Olly will be the last man standing when it comes to defending Levein.

 

It’s just his way.

 

He’s completely wrong but it’s just his way.

 

 

 

Correct. Nobody is allowed to say bad anything against Levein in his eyes

 

He is in a very very small minority in that way of thinking.

[The Doc]

1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Correct. Nobody is allowed to say bad anything against Levein in his eyes

 

He is in a very very small minority in that way of thinking.

 

Its his way of claiming to be a better brand of supporter I think.

 

From what I read he doesn’t attend away games. Maybe if he did he’d have a differing view but who knows.

 

I don’t mind the guy tbh, for balance he provides an alternative view.

[Bazzas right boot]

24 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Eh !! how was he correct.

 

HE stated we need to start the game well - we didn't. Be up for it - we weren't.

 

Cut out individual errors  - we didn't   Lose an early goal - we did

 

All the points he said in his press conference we failed to do any of them.

 

Its his job to motivate them to carry out his instructions but we didn't or do the team just ignore what he says.

 

 

 

 

Disagree 100%

Bozanic and Wightons errors were not his fault. 

 

If you want to discuss signing them in the first place and if they're good enough , then that's a different matter. 

 

What he said pre match was 100% correct. 

Him and/ or the players not carrying out is another matter. 

What he said was correct. 

 

Also, it's the players who carry out his instructions, not him. 

The instructions, based on his pre match interview were 100%.

 

 

 

 

 

[micole]

Now in the back garden with a nice cold beer to calm my rage, that was a shocking performance when was the last time we shipped 3 goals against, Rangers or The Rangers at Tynecastle ?. My patience like many others has ran out we need a change, play anything like that today and Celtic will eat us alive, I am going to the final more in hope than expectation.

[Bazzas right boot]

5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Correct. Nobody is allowed to say bad anything against Levein in his eyes

 

He is in a very very small minority in that way of thinking.

 

 

Actually wrong. 

 

I said, a while back his position should be reviewed in the summer. 

 

 

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said:

Do you? Strange logic there when the manager we have is bulletproof. 

You accelerate change by changing ownership.

[Pasquale for King]

There’s a photo of Maclean clapping the fans at FT ??‍♂️.

Poor today but is anyone surprised. Manager has never beaten these scumbags at home with us or United, they weren’t great. So many empty seats by the end, if he doesn’t leave we will see a lot more of that next season. The players totally ignored what he said they needed to do, again. 

 

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

 

It must be bad when the only person that shares your viewpoint is one of the worst posters on here.??

That viewpoint being... the truth?

 

 

Dear oh Dear.

[Bazzas right boot]

27 minutes ago, The Doc said:

Olly will be the last man standing when it comes to defending Levein.

 

It’s just his way.

 

He’s completely wrong but it’s just his way.

 

 

 

 

 

Untrue. 

 

I've said his position needs reviewed in the summer for sometime 

 

I just don't and never have seen the benefit in changing managers during a season unless things are terrible, as in relegation or not top 6 and losing the dressing room. 

 

6th in the league and a lc semi and a sc final is not terrible, despite what folk think. 

 

He deserves to see the season out and I see no benefit to changing it now.

 

Wanting to wait until the summer for a review, and in the event of a change we can do it in a constructive and positive way, unlike the Robbie - Cathro change is pretty normal imo. 

 

Any change we make now is crucial, it has to be planned, positive and correct. Not knee jerk. 

 

I have said this since December, and unlike some don't become a slavering, emotional wreck after a defeat. 

[heatonjambo]

1 hour ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Is it tho? 

 

Or do we need to add a few good players in the  summer?

 

We were shite today, and again individual mistakes cost us. 

 

Don't think that means something is rotten to the core. 

 

 

A fair and measured response.

 

but do you think, player for player rangers where that much better than us?

 

rotten is perhaps a very emotive and angry word, but perhaps soft is more accurate and this softness permeates down from he top and also up from the bottom through Leviens coaching staff.

 

fundementally something is wrong. And it’s wrong because of the people in charge and how they motivate and move our club forward.

 

something needs to change asap

[Robbo-Jambo]

18 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Disagree 100%

Bozanic and Wightons errors were not his fault. 

 

If you want to discuss signing them in the first place and if they're good enough , then that's a different matter. 

 

What he said pre match was 100% correct. 

Him and/ or the players not carrying out is another matter. 

What he said was correct. 

 

Also, it's the players who carry out his instructions, not him. 

The instructions, based on his pre match interview were 100%.

 

 

 

 

 

His INSTRUCTIONS were to NOT let all these things happen and they did.

 

He is saying we need to cut all of these things and we didn't.

 

So the players failed to carry these things they were told by their boss so like all bosses the buck stops wih him.

 

The players were lethargic and unmotivated in the opening half hour.

 

Its part of his job to motivate them as a manager and it didn't happen.

 

At his press conference he said he didn't want all these things to happen and they did.

 

So the players failed to do what he asked of them once again.

 

Really cant be bothered arguing I have my views and you have your views of how it was interpretated.

 

Its a forum and we all have our own views.

 

Yes the players have to take some of the blame along with the manager but his interview he said he wanted all these errors to stop and they didn't or were we great in the first 30 mins

Edited April 20, 2019 by Robbo-Jambo

[The Doc]

1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Untrue. 

 

I've said his position needs reviewed in the summer for sometime 

 

I just don't and never have seen the benefit in changing managers during a season unless things are terrible, as in relegation or not top 6 and losing the dressing room. 

 

6th in the league and a lc semi and a sc final is not terrible, despite what folk think. 

 

He deserves to see the season out and I see no benefit to changing it now.

 

Wanting to wait until the summer for a review, and in the event of a change we can do it in a constructive and positive way, unlike the Robbie - Cathro change is pretty normal imo. 

 

Any change we make now is crucial, it has to be planned, positive and correct. Not knee jerk. 

 

I have said this since December, and unlike some don't become a slavering, emotional wreck after a defeat. 

 

Aye I’ve read your position on matters once or twice before.

 

I want us to have the best opportunity of winning the cup. It’s my view that would be with Levein leaving the club asap.

 

I know it isn’t going to happen but come the Summer I fear we’ll be wishing it had.

 

There would be nothing knee jerk about CL leaving the club tonight given the run of form we are on.

 

In fact to go further, it’s my belief that had this been another manager other than Craig Levein  he’d already be away.

 

Allowing Craig Levein to continue because he is Craig Levein first and foremost is gross mismanagement from the board.

[Bazzas right boot]

2 hours ago, The Doc said:

 

Aye I’ve read your position on matters once or twice before.

 

I want us to have the best opportunity of winning the cup. It’s my view that would be with Levein leaving the club asap.

 

I know it isn’t going to happen but come the Summer I fear we’ll be wishing it had.

 

There would be nothing knee jerk about CL leaving the club tonight given the run of form we are on.

 

In fact to go further, it’s my belief that had this been another manager other than Craig Levein  he’d already be away.

 

Allowing Craig Levein to continue because he is Craig Levein first and foremost is gross mismanagement from the board.

 

 

Gross mismanagement...... Ffs. 

Hyperbole. 

 

Time will tell reference the cup. 

 

I think v celtic over the past two seasons our record is one of the better ones v them, so unsure of your logic reference the  cup final. 

Two wins. 

Think only Killie have managed that. 

Could be wrong tho, but be interesting to see what man would come in and increase our chances of winning our 4th trophy in almost 55 years. 

 

If we had such a man, we really should have wheeled him out 40 years ago. 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot

[part_time_jambo]

Until Craig Levein/Ann Budge/FOH start spending money on a better standard of player, nothing is going to change and Hearts are always going to be third best at best, behind Rangers and Celtic.

These two are 1st and 2nd because they spend money on better quality players. The team with the better quality players will almost always finish top.

If Hearts don't have the money to compete with them, then we shouldn't be so surprised every time we lose to them.

Frustrating as hell, but it is what it is.

[Bazzas right boot]

2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

His INSTRUCTIONS were to NOT let all these things happen and they did.

 

He is saying we need to cut all of these things and we didn't.

 

So the players failed to carry these things they were told by their boss so like all bosses the buck stops wih him.

 

The players were lethargic and unmotivated in the opening half hour.

 

Its part of his job to motivate them as a manager and it didn't happen.

 

At his press conference he said he didn't want all these things to happen and they did.

 

So the players failed to do what he asked of them once again.

 

Really cant be bothered arguing I have my views and you have your views of how it was interpretated.

 

Its a forum and we all have our own views.

 

Yes the players have to take some of the blame along with the manager but his interview he said he wanted all these errors to stop and they didn't or were we great in the first 30 mins

 

All over the shop m8. 

 

[part_time_jambo]

2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

His INSTRUCTIONS were to NOT let all these things happen and they did.

 

He is saying we need to cut all of these things and we didn't.

 

So the players failed to carry these things they were told by their boss so like all bosses the buck stops wih him.

 

The players were lethargic and unmotivated in the opening half hour.

 

Its part of his job to motivate them as a manager and it didn't happen.

 

At his press conference he said he didn't want all these things to happen and they did.

 

So the players failed to do what he asked of them once again.

 

Really cant be bothered arguing I have my views and you have your views of how it was interpretated.

 

Its a forum and we all have our own views.

 

Yes the players have to take some of the blame along with the manager but his interview he said he wanted all these errors to stop and they didn't or were we great in the first 30 mins

Perhaps the players are just not good enough to carry out those instructions against better quality players.

[Robbo-Jambo]

10 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

All over the shop m8. 

 

??? Right OK bud.

[The Doc]

24 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Gross mismanagement...... Ffs. 

Hyperbole. 

 

Time will tell reference the cup. 

 

I think v celtic over the past two seasons our record is one of the better ones v them, so unsure of your logic reference the  cup final. 

Two wins. 

Think only Killie have managed that. 

Could be wrong tho, but be interesting to see what man would come in and increase our chances of winning our 4th trophy in almost 55 years. 

 

If we had such a man, we really should have wheeled him out 40 years ago. 

 

 

 

 

 

His record since October is worthy of being sacked.

 

It wouldn’t be knee jerk as you claimed.

 

Other managers (imo) would already be away.

 

As I said, allowing him to continue as manager because of his history with the club, if that is the case, is gross mismanagement.

 

Its all moot anyway, he’s going nowhere until the Summer. We all hope it’s as a winner.

[GavK1012]

24 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said:

Until Craig Levein/Ann Budge/FOH start spending money on a better standard of player, nothing is going to change and Hearts are always going to be third best at best, behind Rangers and Celtic.

These two are 1st and 2nd because they spend money on better quality players. The team with the better quality players will almost always finish top.

If Hearts don't have the money to compete with them, then we shouldn't be so surprised every time we lose to them.

Frustrating as hell, but it is what it is.

 

Very apt username as gives an insight into your comments...

 

FoH cash hasnt and hopefully will never directly go to fund wages/transfer fees etc...that would be the line I would draw...

 

It will go into development of players which hopefully in time will result in cash for the club in anycase....

 

3rd best is exactly what we should aim for base minimum and we are so far from that it defies belief....

 

The £€£€£€£ thrown at recruitment isnt the problem, its the decisions made surrounding the player thats the issue, not the amount....as the league table tells you this as Killie and Hibs are again this season ahead of us but dont have as heavy a wage bill....simples....