ri Alban Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm surprised he's not been shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said: My favorite Trump response so far has been to tweet that the Obama campaign was also fined for improper finances. Yes Don, they were. They were fined for the late submission of paperwork for small finance contribution - late by 48 hours i might add. Not for using campaign finances to pay a porn star to stay quiet about you and she having a wee podger session. Podger session Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm surprised he's not been shot. I'm disappointed he's not been shot. Not killed, mind. Just shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Isn't that mostly true with all the Mid-terms & Presidential elections, that it's the waiverers that ultimately hold the balance of power. True, but what surprises me (or maybe it doesn't) is that Trump's base is still solidly behind him. All his lies, all his sordid behaviour, doesn't seem to faze them. I hadn't realised before just how big the extreme right wing is in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 He's just said he can't be impeached because the markets would crash. The biggest crash ever seen in the history of market crashes. What a *****. Come on CIA, do away with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, ri Alban said: Is he still giving Canada hassle with trade? Yes. He got pissed off at Trudeau after the G7, and now he's gone into a huff with Canada. Rather than negotiating NAFTA on a trilateral basis with Mexico and Canada, he's talking only to Mexico.. So the trade negotiations with Canada have stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: I'm disappointed he's not been shot. Not killed, mind. Just shot. Not one attempt. What's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Jurors in the Manafort trial have said that one juror prevented the other ten charges being guilty verdicts. The rest of the jurors spent 4 days trying to show her that he was guilty as sin but she wouldn't budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Yes. He got pissed off at Trudeau after the G7, and now he's gone into a huff with Canada. Rather than negotiating NAFTA on a trilateral basis with Mexico and Canada, he's talking only to Mexico.. So the trade negotiations with Canada have stopped. He really is a petty horrible little man with a penchant for chaos at other peoples expense. It's all about him and so will his down fall. Edited August 23, 2018 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Cade said: Jurors in the Manafort trial have said that one juror prevented the other ten charges being guilty verdicts. The rest of the jurors spent 4 days trying to show her that he was guilty as sin but she wouldn't budge. Jurors shouldn't discuss deliberations, that's a big no no! Are there quotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: Jurors shouldn't discuss deliberations, that's a big no no! Are there quotes? Differnt rules over there. Lots of quotes on the Gaurdian site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Smithee said: Jurors shouldn't discuss deliberations, that's a big no no! Are there quotes? She was interviewed on TV. I saw a little bit of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Getting fun now. Cohen paid a tech comp 50k in connection to the campaign, but not reported. Might be the Russian link at last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 And still no Russian collusion. It is simply the chosen vehicle to promulgate the expurgation. Yeah, it’s a witch-hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, alfajambo said: And still no Russian collusion. It is simply the chosen vehicle to promulgate the expurgation. Yeah, it’s a witch-hunt. Seek, and ye shall find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, alfajambo said: And still no Russian collusion. It is simply the chosen vehicle to promulgate the expurgation. Yeah, it’s a witch-hunt. Does Trumps kind words and praise for Manafort, a tax cheating thief who squandered an ill gained fortune, and worked with Russians and Ukraine in questionable financial deals, and was broke when hired to work on Trumps campaign, and attended the notorious meeeting in Trump Towers with Russians who were going to pass dirt on Clinton, in possession of much damaging evidence regarding the whole situation. I seem to recall you have a penchant for quoting the Bible and are probably quite religious, and that is good, I am not that way but admire to some extent people who are, so as gently as I can I would probably uselessly counsel with kindness you to get your head out of the religious philosophies and look at the real world. It contains bad people, lies, prejudice, cheating, abuse of power, racism, philandering, taking your Gods name in vain, and one man is covered by all and more of these sins, and you still support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, DETTY29 said: He's just said he can't be impeached because the markets would crash. The biggest crash ever seen in the history of market crashes. What a *****. Come on CIA, do away with him. Yip it's all about him. How the feck would the stock markets crash if he got impeached, does he think he personally controls the stock markets and without his personal attention they'd crumble, what a fecking clown, and the worst of it is, you get people still coming out and defending this utter brainless tw@t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, alfajambo said: And still no Russian collusion. It is simply the chosen vehicle to promulgate the expurgation. Yeah, it’s a witch-hunt. A bit like WMD and Saddam. Except I'd rather Saddam was still president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Trump maybe just got screwed by his own Pecker. This guy will surely know where a lot of the "bodies" are buried?! His so called friends are getting picked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 "Impeach me and the stock markets will tank and everyone will be poor" is his latest words of wisdom to Fox & Friends today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Yip it's all about him. How the feck would the stock markets crash if he got impeached, does he think he personally controls the stock markets and without his personal attention they'd crumble, what a fecking clown, and the worst of it is, you get people still coming out and defending this utter brainless tw@t. What a ******* excuse for a Human Being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Not that I had much left, but I gave up all hope on Trump supporters when they continue to support him with US government agents snatching babies out of mothers arms, torturing and abusing them, and repeatedly lying about it. There are still over 500 children forcibly separated from their parents. Anyone still supporting this President is complicit in the deepest of evil and needs to have a word with themselves. Full stop, there's no more excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, alfajambo said: And still no Russian collusion. It is simply the chosen vehicle to promulgate the expurgation. Yeah, it’s a witch-hunt. The Meuller investigation has the following as its mandate: " Investigate any possible links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." As a result, he has obtained dozens of indictments, confessions, and guilty pleas against Russians and close friends and associates of Donald Trump. And the investigation is still ongoing. Numerous legal experts have given the opinion that Trump would have been indicted by now if it wasn't for the fact that he's the POTUS. Sticking with Trump's favourite analogy, if this is a witch hunt, they've caught the witch, but haven't decided what to do with him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hmmm so some carpet sweeping could happen.What a farce if this came about. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/graham-says-he-expects-trump-to-oust-sessions-after-elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Hmmm so some carpet sweeping could happen.What a farce if this came about. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/graham-says-he-expects-trump-to-oust-sessions-after-elections Despite being his choice for AG, Trump has been publicly critical of Sessions for months. If Sessions had any backbone he would have told Donald to shove the job long ago. But Sessions is just another Trump enabler in the Republican party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Is this guy on the ball, or a fantasist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Is this guy on the ball, or a fantasist? FAKE NOOZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Mueller hammering in those coffin nails. Plenty still in his pouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Even Fox getting a bit negative http://video.foxnews.com/v/5826096750001/?#sp=show-clips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 hours ago, vegas-voss said: Even Fox getting a bit negative http://video.foxnews.com/v/5826096750001/?#sp=show-clips Hmmmmmm If Fox are starting to turn against him........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The Teflon Donald right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The New York State Attorney now opening an investigation into the Trump organisation. The National Inquirer has a safe with lots of records on lots of people including more on Trump. I feel quite fortunate that after years of going to Court giving evidence that was contradicted by an accused who said something different I was never charged or even accused of perjury, why would Trump be so afraid to be interviewed. If he has done nothing and that is his claim, what could Manafort have offered if he had in Trumps words "not broke" to make a deal and flip. It seems by his own words Manafort knows something, why is he so respectful of a man that he has said often,"only worked on the campaign for a short time". Who has he been associating with in the past that as he claimed on Fox in 30 or 40 years he has seen many cases of flipping, and that they went for the person above them or the top man. Why do I wonder if it would have been any worse if Al Capone was availed of the power to give Pardons, to all his men who did not rat him out. Why dc I no longer think of Trump as just a stupid buffoon, but now see him more as a person who has involved himself in criminal activity, and worse than the famous gangsters who were criminals for the purpose of riches, he is a criminal in the pursuit of power which with only slight exaggeration could bring the World into a time of conflict and tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, bobsharp said: The New York State Attorney now opening an investigation into the Trump organisation. The National Inquirer has a safe with lots of records on lots of people including more on Trump. I feel quite fortunate that after years of going to Court giving evidence that was contradicted by an accused who said something different I was never charged or even accused of perjury, why would Trump be so afraid to be interviewed. If he has done nothing and that is his claim, what could Manafort have offered if he had in Trumps words "not broke" to make a deal and flip. It seems by his own words Manafort knows something, why is he so respectful of a man that he has said often,"only worked on the campaign for a short time". Who has he been associating with in the past that as he claimed on Fox in 30 or 40 years he has seen many cases of flipping, and that they went for the person above them or the top man. Why do I wonder if it would have been any worse if Al Capone was availed of the power to give Pardons, to all his men who did not rat him out. Why dc I no longer think of Trump as just a stupid buffoon, but now see him more as a person who has involved himself in criminal activity, and worse than the famous gangsters who were criminals for the purpose of riches, he is a criminal in the pursuit of power which with only slight exaggeration could bring the World into a time of conflict and tragedy. I was thinking the same thing, war may just be a day away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Trump gets impeached. He makes a twitter rant calling for the "very fine 2nd amendment folks" to rise up. A few murders and property destruction rampages. National guard sent in. More nutters join the yahoos. Civil war. Could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Cade said: Trump gets impeached. He makes a twitter rant calling for the "very fine 2nd amendment folks" to rise up. A few murders and property destruction rampages. National guard sent in. More nutters join the yahoos. Civil war. Could happen. The ultimate deflection tactic. War! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Trump has cancelled Pompeos upcoming trip to North Korea because they are not moving on denuclearisation. Who would have thought that could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, bobsharp said: Trump has cancelled Pompeos upcoming trip to North Korea because they are not moving on denuclearisation. Who would have thought that could happen. Everybody but Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 8 hours ago, bobsharp said: The New York State Attorney now opening an investigation into the Trump organisation. The National Inquirer has a safe with lots of records on lots of people including more on Trump. I feel quite fortunate that after years of going to Court giving evidence that was contradicted by an accused who said something different I was never charged or even accused of perjury, why would Trump be so afraid to be interviewed. If he has done nothing and that is his claim, what could Manafort have offered if he had in Trumps words "not broke" to make a deal and flip. It seems by his own words Manafort knows something, why is he so respectful of a man that he has said often,"only worked on the campaign for a short time". Who has he been associating with in the past that as he claimed on Fox in 30 or 40 years he has seen many cases of flipping, and that they went for the person above them or the top man. Why do I wonder if it would have been any worse if Al Capone was availed of the power to give Pardons, to all his men who did not rat him out. Why dc I no longer think of Trump as just a stupid buffoon, but now see him more as a person who has involved himself in criminal activity, and worse than the famous gangsters who were criminals for the purpose of riches, he is a criminal in the pursuit of power which with only slight exaggeration could bring the World into a time of conflict and tragedy. ? don't drag me into this Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: ? don't drag me into this Bob Hey you know what they say if the shoes fit.? Edited August 25, 2018 by bobsharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Another immunity given. It does say it's not clear what he's offered to give up for immunity, but I assume it's good if offered and accepted. It's all coming together nicely. Mueller has been very patient, quietly doing his thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45301884 Edited August 25, 2018 by New York Fleapit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boof Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 18 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: ? don't drag me into this Bob ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It is really interesting to listen to the various coverages and interviews. The main thing of the now called fake news is impeachment. At least they do have some understanding though that it is pointless for Congress to do, so as long as there is a Republican majority in the Senate. Fox news of course put forward their view that this is all wrong and has nothing to do with the Russia collusion/interference in the election. My opinion is that if there had been no Russian interference there would have been no Mueller ran investigation, the fact though is there is an investigation and it is turning up evidence of actions that are or could be criminal, hence the indictments, charges,convictions and plea bargaining that has gone on. I have seen on TV the mandate of the investigatioin, and not a direct quote but it does refer to, and other crimes that may be discovered. These are what are being discussed so comprehensively now on televison. I can appreciate the chagrin displayed by Fox and friends, the President they stand by so faithfully it would seem is not only not the sharpest tool in the box, but will not be honored any time soon for honesty and credibility. The fact is the President it now seems could be a man of criminal tendencies, as can happen to use a term he uses the "rats" are jumping ship, he calls them flippers, and says that flipping should be made a crime or at least almost made a crime. It has been suggested he could be guilty of laundering Russian money in Trump Tower sales, being bailed out of a four million dollar bankruptcy, when his casinos failed, again by Russian interests, conviction on any of these charges, plus possibly income tax offences, could be like Manafort subject of jail time long enough for a seventy two year old man never to be free again. I don't know if such a deal can be made, I realise the feeling is that a sitting President cannot be indicted, but a former President can, could he at some point offer to resign, possibly offer evidence of Russian interference and collusion, in exchange for complete immunity after his resignation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 5 hours ago, New York Fleapit said: Another immunity given. It does say it's not clear what he's offered to give up for immunity, but I assume it's good if offered and accepted. It's all coming together nicely. Mueller has been very patient, quietly doing his thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45301884 Yet according to some folks, one or two of them on here, because Mueller hasn't revealed what he does have, they believe that that must mean he's got nothing, it is obvious that these people don't have a clue how investigations works and how long some can take, or maybe they do and it's all just deflection deflection deflection. Here in the UK, the security firm G4S has been under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office (a specialised Police unit) for the last 5 years and it might go on for years yet. However there does now seem to be a momentum gathering with the Mueller investigation and more significantly the dominoes seem to be falling now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Yet according to some folks, one or two of them on here, because Mueller hasn't revealed what he does have, they believe that that must mean he's got nothing, it is obvious that these people don't have a clue how investigations works and how long some can take, or maybe they do and it's all just deflection deflection deflection. Here in the UK, the security firm G4S has been under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office (a specialised Police unit) for the last 5 years and it might go on for years yet. However there does now seem to be a momentum gathering with the Mueller investigation and more significantly the dominoes seem to be falling now. Now that Meuller appears to be digging into Trump's finances, I think that Trump will get very nervous. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump fires Meuller within the next week. The servile Republicans in Congress won't say a word if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Now that Meuller appears to be digging into Trump's finances, I think that Trump will get very nervous. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump fires Meuller within the next week. The servile Republicans in Congress won't say a word if he does. I disagree. I don't think he would get away with that, even from the Republican side, and he knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said: Now that Meuller appears to be digging into Trump's finances, I think that Trump will get very nervous. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump fires Meuller within the next week. The servile Republicans in Congress won't say a word if he does. I also disagree, the time for firing Mueller has come and gone, besides to fire him now, would only guarantee a republican wipe-out at the mid-terms. Now that Mueller has brought indictments, plea bargins, guilty pleas & now immunities from prosecution for information the noose is being tightened around Trump's neck, Mueller knows this, Trump knows this and so does the Republican party, despite what they may say in public, they knew what Trump was when he ran for President they just never thought his past would catch up with him so soon into his Presidency. Of course we are dealing with Trump so anything is possible, however I think that if Trump fired Mueller now it would be tantamount to an admission of guilt and I think Trump knows that and so would the 20% of people who decide the elections, they would also know it and would vote accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I also disagree, the time for firing Mueller has come and gone, besides to fire him now, would only guarantee a republican wipe-out at the mid-terms. Now that Mueller has brought indictments, plea bargins, guilty pleas & now immunities from prosecution for information the noose is being tightened around Trump's neck, Mueller knows this, Trump knows this and so does the Republican party, despite what they may say in public, they knew what Trump was when he ran for President they just never thought his past would catch up with him so soon into his Presidency. Of course we are dealing with Trump so anything is possible, however I think that if Trump fired Mueller now it would be tantamount to an admission of guilt and I think Trump knows that and so would the 20% of people who decide the elections, they would also know it and would vote accordingly. Interesting parallel with the Watergate investigations. Nixon actually did fire the special investigator. The Attorney General and his deputy both resigned after refusing to sack him. We're surely gearing up for something similarhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Senator McCain's family telling Trump to stay away from the funeral. I hope that there's an adult in the White House that will take Trump's phone off him to stop him tweeting something inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: Senator McCain's family telling Trump to stay away from the funeral. I hope that there's an adult in the White House that will take Trump's phone off him to stop him tweeting something inappropriate. Former Presidents Bush and Obama to give eulogies at the funeral, while the family have asked the non-entity to stay away. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I found something like Trump on my shoes I wouldn't use my bare hands to clean it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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