davemclaren Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Legal aid to assist her. UK citizen not convicted of any crime. Unfortunately this government thinks it can just make things up as it goes along. We have laws and a judicial system for good reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, davemclaren said: UK citizen not convicted of any crime. Unfortunately this government thinks it can just make things up as it goes along. We have laws and a judicial system for good reasons. Yup. I'm not mega happy about the decision, but justice has to take its course. The eventual decision will probably also act as a basis for future similar decisions - it's important that this is all tested in a court of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, davemclaren said: UK citizen not convicted of any crime. Unfortunately this government thinks it can just make things up as it goes along. We have laws and a judicial system for good I know but it p****s me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I know but it p****s me off. Indeed. It will be looked at as her individually i guess. Her family def aren’t short of a penny or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Drone strike . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Geoff the Mince said: Drone strike . More pay, better conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: More pay, better conditions? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Appeal on citizenship started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Appeal on citizenship started She’ll win this case. She’s quite clearly our citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: She’ll win this case. She’s quite clearly our citizen. Unfortunately I agree. Loathesome human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 When she comes back. It will be open season on her for the non Islamic nutjobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, John Findlay said: When she comes back. It will be open season on her for the non Islamic nutjobs fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: She’ll win this case. She’s quite clearly our citizen. Agree But how does she get back to UK? That is a bit harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothump Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I actually feel a bit sorry for her now, she's made bad life choices. The only honourable thing, she should do for her and her family, is end her own life (not with a bomb obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Agree But how does she get back to UK? That is a bit harder Thumb a lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Agree But how does she get back to UK? That is a bit harder At the tax payers expense mate. Edited October 22, 2019 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: Unfortunately I agree. Loathesome human being. Correct 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: When she comes back. It will be open season on her for the non Islamic nutjobs Omg, how on earth will I get to sleep tonight. 5 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Thumb a lift. Hopefully from one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: When she comes back. It will be open season on her for the non Islamic nutjobs just think of the cost to the public to protect the scumbag if she does return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: just think of the cost to the public to protect the scumbag if she does return She will never have to worry about food and bills for the rest of her days (hope there’s not many) probably. Everything paid for by all us mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: She will never have to worry about food and bills for the rest of her days (hope there’s not many) probably. Everything paid for by all us mugs. Well I think all the people who tried to make out she was only a poor innocent 15 year old child who didn't know what she was doing, they should pay for her upkeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I see her lawyer is claiming that she should be present for her appeal. It'll be a schoolboy error if that's allowed. Once here, we'd be lumbered with her, should it fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Well I think all the people who tried to make out she was only a poor innocent 15 year old child who didn't know what she was doing, they should pay for her upkeep. Sounds like a plan 👍 7 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: I see her lawyer is claiming that she should be present for her appeal. It'll be a schoolboy error if that's allowed. Once here, we'd be lumbered with her, should it fail. Surely she wouldn’t get herself involved in something dishonest like that. She could always say that she intended to go back and was just coerced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: I see her lawyer is claiming that she should be present for her appeal. It'll be a schoolboy error if that's allowed. Once here, we'd be lumbered with her, should it fail. Its relatively straightforward. Just get to a country that has diplomatic relations with UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: I see her lawyer is claiming that she should be present for her appeal. It'll be a schoolboy error if that's allowed. Once here, we'd be lumbered with her, should it fail. And that is fine. Appeal can be postponed till she gets back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: I see her lawyer is claiming that she should be present for her appeal. It'll be a schoolboy error if that's allowed. Once here, we'd be lumbered with her, should it fail. A video link would surely suffice, doesn't need to be physically present be in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Agree But how does she get back to UK? That is a bit harder Pass, and don’t really care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Up to 60 British children of ISIS / former ISIS people are being repatriated. The story broke last week with the suggestion the Government had stopped a plan to bring them back from Syria via Iraq. A dangerous journey too. But it is happening. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50506909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 No real choice now, don't want the ISIS people back but we have no right to expect other nations to hold them. Government need laws in place to deal with these people in the future. As to the ones returning now they need to be interrogated and assessed then either held or released. As to posing a threat hundreds have already returned home already so a few dozen more hardly makes a huge difference, of course if in the future one of them does a terrorist act going to be hell to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413040 lost the first stage of her appeal against the removal of her british citizenship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Pleasing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I wonder who is paying her legal bills, better not be the British taxpayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Continental Op Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 So the 16 year old Derek Mackay texted is vulnerable and needs the protection of society and its laws, but a 15 year old girl who went with older friends to a war zone is a responsible and fully reasoning individual who should be treated as if she was a adult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I wonder who is paying her legal bills, better not be the British taxpayer. Why would it be and what are you going to do if it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, milky_26 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413040 lost the first stage of her appeal against the removal of her british citizenship Hopefully represented by this guy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Why would it be and what are you going to do if it is? More to the point what could I do about it, feck all, that's what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I wonder who is paying her legal bills, better not be the British taxpayer. She's getting legal aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: She's getting legal aid. Wouldn't be surprised at that, yet many thousands can't get it here in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, The Continental Op said: So the 16 year old Derek Mackay texted is vulnerable and needs the protection of society and its laws, but a 15 year old girl who went with older friends to a war zone is a responsible and fully reasoning individual who should be treated as if she was a adult? She's not 15 anymore, is now a battle hardened terrorist and a menace to society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, The Continental Op said: So the 16 year old Derek Mackay texted is vulnerable and needs the protection of society and its laws, but a 15 year old girl who went with older friends to a war zone is a responsible and fully reasoning individual who should be treated as if she was a adult? Great post . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Zico said: Hopefully represented by this guy: If your memory is that good then what coloured tie am I wearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jeff said: If your memory is that good then what coloured tie am I wearing? Hnghhh. Hhnnnugh... You’re not wearing one at all! Gasp!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 hours ago, milky_26 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413040 lost the first stage of her appeal against the removal of her british citizenship What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I wonder who is paying her legal bills, better not be the British taxpayer. It is. She has legal aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, The Continental Op said: So the 16 year old Derek Mackay texted is vulnerable and needs the protection of society and its laws, but a 15 year old girl who went with older friends to a war zone is a responsible and fully reasoning individual who should be treated as if she was a adult? The sort of student union drivel Owen Jones would tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 The Court of Appeal has decided she can return to mount an appeal. Even if she loses she will have to stay here, as no other country will take her. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8529165/Shamima-Begum-return-Britain-battle-right-remain.html#comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: The Court of Appeal has decided she can return to mount an appeal. Even if she loses she will have to stay here, as no other country will take her. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8529165/Shamima-Begum-return-Britain-battle-right-remain.html#comments I didn’t expect any other outcome if she’s a British citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Should be allowed to return home. She may not be allowed to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentworth jambo Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: The Court of Appeal has decided she can return to mount an appeal. Even if she loses she will have to stay here, as no other country will take her. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8529165/Shamima-Begum-return-Britain-battle-right-remain.html#comments Yep - wasting more taxpayer money on a pointless appeal - "I'm sorry hen, you've lost" - "Ah well, that's a bummer, see ye then !"...all this nonsense that she hasn't committed a crime is cr4p as well - while we can't treat her the same way ISIS treat people fighting against them, she should never be allowed to set foot in this country again - citizenship was given up the minute she decided to joint ISIS - nah, we'll welcome her back and like was said above - she won't have to pay for a thing for the rest of her life....sad state of affairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Byrde Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: The Court of Appeal has decided she can return to mount an appeal. Even if she loses she will have to stay here, as no other country will take her. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8529165/Shamima-Begum-return-Britain-battle-right-remain.html#comments She is looking to be treated fairly and decently, something which the unfortunate people found lacking in her Caliphate. A Caliphate she does not regret joining. Point her in the direction of Bangladesh which is where her parents hail from, is where her Dad resides and is more culturally aligned with her faith and background, although, granted it can be difficult to distinguish between there and the East London of her youth. I have no doubt she'll be awarded her British Citizenship again and her paedo husband will be over eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said: She is looking to be treated fairly and decently, something which the unfortunate people found lacking in her Caliphate. A Caliphate she does not regret joining. Point her in the direction of Bangladesh which is where her parents hail from, is where her Dad resides and is more culturally aligned with her faith and background, although, granted it can be difficult to distinguish between there and the East London of her youth. I have no doubt she'll be awarded her British Citizenship again and her paedo husband will be over eventually. All courtesy of the the British taxpayer they wii have to foot the bill for the court case if she gets back along with it will be UC plus a house the lot! yet hard working people due to no fault of there own has been made jobless and reliant on food banks but they’ll have to glory on. Mind she wanted away from Britain no fecking way should she be allowed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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