carnockjambo Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Why do so many Hearts fans feel the need to sing a sectarian song. The billy boys has no place at Tynecastle. Our best player Jimmy Dunne is an Irish Catholic from Eire yet our own fans sing about being up to our knees in Feinan blood. We have to get our own house in order regarding this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcjambo Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Agreed 100%, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinladdy Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yay, another thread on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 A lot of people do stop singing after the first two lines. Not an excuse for those who carry on, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Whole stadium was at it last night, enough of the minority p*sh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: Yay, another thread on it. Sweep sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudeskaboyuk Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 We have spent years trying to distance ourselves from THe mini Rangers tags and now this song is making a comeback ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Whole stadium was at it last night, enough of the minority p*sh The whole stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Playing Celtic twice and Hibs in the space of 6 days, I can't say I'm surprised by it being so prominent, even if I am bitterly disappointed that we've reduced ourselves to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 When entering the Main Stand last night there was a group of guys singing about Tommy Robinson. I’ve seen it all now at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: Yay, another thread on it. And there will be many more until the idiots in our fan base realise there is no place for this sectarian pish at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Apache Mal said: The whole stadium? Okay, three stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Thought Police said: Okay, three stands Aye ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Apache Mal said: Aye ok. Very loud and prominent around me in the Gorgie stand. Was clearly loud in the other two stands. Don’t be a pedant, it wasn’t every single person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Sweep sweep Harldy, its being discussed in numerous threads, but you bash on with your look at me stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: Harldy, its being discussed in numerous threads, but you bash on with your look at me stuff. Look at me? You said another thread. There’s no other thread specifically about singing the Billy Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTS_1874 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 We don't sing the "Billy Boys" we sing the "Gorgie Boys" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 It got started when a couple of tri colour flags appeared in the Hibs end. Unfotunatley it wasnt just the minority that werre singing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Look at me? You said another thread. There’s no other thread specifically about singing the Billy Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Thought Police said: Very loud and prominent around me in the Gorgie stand. Was clearly loud in the other two stands. Don’t be a pedant, it wasn’t every single person. Sung quite widely faded out at the hibees / fenian blood stage , thankfully at least where I was - Wheatfield E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, HEARTS_1874 said: We don't sing the "Billy Boys" we sing the "Gorgie Boys" im glad someone noticed that small fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Look at me? You said another thread. There’s no other thread specifically about singing the Billy Boys. No I didn't, try reading it slowly or asking someone to read it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Glad you agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenks Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Embarassing. Just scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: No I didn't, try reading it slowly or asking someone to read it for you. 13 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: another thread on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: No I didn't, try reading it slowly or asking someone to read it for you. That’s the spirit keep the not another thread on the subject going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Rendition of Build My Gallows from the after school club on their way out of the main stand last night. Absolutely pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thought Police said: If you can't see where it's being discussed, you're either lying or lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, HEARTS_1874 said: We don't sing the "Billy Boys" we sing the "Gorgie Boys" "For we are the Gorgie Billy Boys" is what is widely sung as the last line by the idiots in our support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: Yay, another thread on it. And you just contributed to the thread. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 The song will never go away, never! Only solution is for the majority to sing the non-sectarian version louder than those singing the sectarian version. If Killie, Arsenal, Villa, Stoke, Man U, Portsmouth etc can all sing non-sectarian versions of the song then surely to **** so can we, christ even Millwall and Chelsea sing the PC version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Ribble said: The song will never go away, never! Only solution is for the majority to sing the non-sectarian version louder than those singing the sectarian version. If Killie, Arsenal, Villa, Stoke, Man U, Portsmouth etc can all sing non-sectarian versions of the song then surely to **** so can we, christ even Millwall and Chelsea sing the PC version! They never had a sectarian version to begin with though. For as long as the song is sung, that sectarian version will get an airing - some folk just can't help themselves. The only solution is to sing different songs entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David66k Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Lower section G was more like the atmosphere you'd expect along the M8, the amount of singing about the pope, songs straight from the rangers book and all things sectarian was an embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Walker Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ribble said: The song will never go away, never! Only solution is for the majority to sing the non-sectarian version louder than those singing the sectarian version. If Killie, Arsenal, Villa, Stoke, Man U, Portsmouth etc can all sing non-sectarian versions of the song then surely to **** so can we, christ even Millwall and Chelsea sing the PC version! This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Agree with OP 100% It’s embarrassing, offensive, & aligns us with Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdannyb Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I stopped singing that song when I was old enough to understand the meaning of the words. I was 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Whole stadium was at it last night, enough of the minority p*sh Although many joined in, it was nothing like the whole stadium. Nobody near me in the Wheatfield joined in . And at least it petered out once it reached the third line. The song is an embarrassment. I agree with Ray Gin above. The idea that you could ever sing a non-sectarian version of this song, given its history, is wishful thinking and never going to happen. We've had this debate for years yet nobody has ever come on here and explained why the song and these words should be sung by Hearts fans. We are not Rangers. We have no wish to be Rangers. We are Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 We need to eradicate all elements of sectarianism from our support. Union flags are used as a sectarian incitement to opposing fans. Ban them inside Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, HEARTS_1874 said: We don't sing the "Billy Boys" we sing the "Gorgie Boys" What is the third line in your version? What is the fourth line? What have these words got to do with Hearts? They have everything to do with Rangers, in case you hadn't noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnockjambo Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 The Sectarian element within our fan base are the ones who complain most about Celtic and their songs when they come to Tynecastle. Us singing Sectarian songs defeats our argument against the Celtic fans and their vile songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, carnockjambo said: Why do so many Hearts fans feel the need to sing a sectarian song. The billy boys has no place at Tynecastle. Our best player Jimmy Dunne is an Irish Catholic from Eire yet our own fans sing about being up to our knees in Feinan blood. We have to get our own house in order regarding this. I fully agree with your sentiments here and that song (or that version at least) should have no place at Hearts, however, there is zero chance that it will stop. As has been demonstrated in the last two games, we have some real clowns in our support. They will not stop. The only way that I can see any difference being made is if everyone who sings the non sectarian version just stops singing it altogether leaving the knuckle draggers to stand alone and be easier to single out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 i still cant understand why some people sing this? genuinely makes no sense to me. i dont see how its relevant to Hearts or 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: "For we are the Gorgie Billy Boys" is what is widely sung as the last line by the idiots in our support. Well said. Moreover, the Billy they celebrate is a Glasgow gangster from the thirties who was also associated with the British Union of Fascists. Precisely nothing to do with Hearts or Edinburgh, and a complete embarrassment that we have fans who sing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, carnockjambo said: Why do so many Hearts fans feel the need to sing a sectarian song. The billy boys has no place at Tynecastle. Our best player Jimmy Dunne is an Irish Catholic from Eire yet our own fans sing about being up to our knees in Feinan blood. We have to get our own house in order regarding this. Now is not the time, now is far far too late. This senseless moronic behaviour should have been stamped out long ago. It adds nothing of value and those that want to cling on to it are hugely suspect in their motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, 4marsbars said: What is the third line in your version? What is the fourth line? What have these words got to do with Hearts? They have everything to do with Rangers, in case you hadn't noticed. They don't really. Football, Scotland, Rangers etc is not mentioned at all in the song. It's got f-all to do with football, any football club/team, anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jocam2325 said: I fully agree with your sentiments here and that song (or that version at least) should have no place at Hearts, however, there is zero chance that it will stop. As has been demonstrated in the last two games, we have some real clowns in our support. They will not stop. The only way that I can see any difference being made is if everyone who sings the non sectarian version just stops singing it altogether leaving the knuckle draggers to stand alone and be easier to single out. I agree. I think the way forward is an awareness-raising campaign within the stadium and within the fanbase. Stadium announcements should become more specific, for example naming the "Hullo Hullo" as a sectarian song. The vague suggestion that "offensive behaviour will result in punitive action" is just meaningless lip-service. It should be "sing Hullo Hullo" and you're out, for the reason that Hullo Hullo is a sectarian song. People will stop joining in when they understand it is socially unacceptable to do so. Edited November 1, 2018 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 It is past the time to stop it. Can someone please tell me how we go about it? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Some people definitely sing "Billy boys". Guy about 45 and his two kids standing belting it out at the top of their lungs behind me last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 It was the Gorgie boys around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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