RobboM Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Boy Daniel said: It’s all working really, so it is! Sales of milk and cream to the EU have dropped by 96 per cent – and yet, silence from the Brexiteers If Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would look like once we left the single market, perhaps they should take a look now This is Boris Johnson’s last chance. There is always, as there was with coronavirus lockdowns, that moment when all the warning signs are there, and fast government action is needed. Now that UK milk and meat exports have been virtually wiped out, alongside the dying fishing sector, with Brexit that moment is now. Boris Johnson could re-open the Brexit trade deal, ensure frictionless trade and save thousands of jobs. But only if he cares enough about the voters he won over five years ago. So let’s give Boris Johnson and all Brexiteers the maximum benefit of the doubt. Let’s say Boris Johnson isn’t a sociopath and that, in 2016, he meant it when he said the idea of Brexit creating trade barriers was “utterly absurd”. Let’s say that last Christmas, when he repeated that promise after signing the EU trade deal, he truly believed everything would be fine for the people whose jobs rely on EU trade. Let’s say Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would actually be like once we left the single market. Well… take a look. The UK’s Food and Drink Federation (FDF) has reported that the UK’s sale of milk and cream to the EU has dropped by 96 per cent; chicken and beef by 80 per cent. Food and drinks exports are 40.9 per cent down since last February and exporters have lost a total of £1bn since January. This is largely due to the additional paperwork needed now that the Dover-Calais crossing has become the external border of the EU market. The rules around food and drink are therefore no longer the same on either side of the border. Unless Boris Johnson fixes this, British farmers will pay with their jobs. In 2016, he told them: “The extra incentive for our farmers to go for Leave is getting rid of that burden.” Only a monster would promise thousands of farmers that Brexit would free them of costly paperwork, deliver a Brexit that drowns them in paperwork, and then do nothing about it. People voted for Brexit and for Boris Johnson because they honestly believed that both were about delivering for ordinary people. They saw a system that favours the rich and powerful, and they wanted to take something back for the average man and woman of the UK. Tragically, the FDF reports that “small businesses have been hardest hit”. The increased cost of doing business has been swallowed easily by the larger corporations while the little ones are choking. Our economy is still on life support because of government assistance, including the furlough scheme, and yet jobs have already started to trickle out through that Brexit hole. And yet with furlough scheduled to end later this year, along with the grace periods on further trade barriers, Boris Johnson is refusing to plug that hole before it gets much bigger. Why? Fixing this would require re-opening the Brexit trade deal, as trade associations and a parliament trade committee are begging him to. Boris Johnson knows that if he did that, it would be a clear sign that, two years after the election, Brexit still isn’t “done”, as his manifesto promised. But anyone whose fishing company is struggling knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone filling out mountains of costly paperwork to sell their livestock knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone who lives in Northern Ireland knows Brexit isn’t done. Hell, anyone who has read the deal knows Brexit isn’t done. The only question now is whether Boris Johnson would rather protect an exposed lie, or actually help people. It's going to have to get a lot worse than that before Johnson and chums finally force the EU to back down and admit the UK to the single market without being members of the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Just now, RobboM said: It's going to have to get a lot worse than that before Johnson and chums finally force the EU to back down and admit the UK to the single market without being members of the EU Force? We have no cards to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Smithee said: Force? We have no cards to play. Touch of sarcasm Smithee just imagining how the Daily Mail will sell it if we were to rejoin the Single Market to save agriculture and fisheries in the UK. The cards to play would be acceptance of all EU rules without the ability to influence them and a big wedge of annual dosh. Then you'll see the EU cave! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, RobboM said: Touch of sarcasm Smithee just imagining how the Daily Mail will sell it if we were to rejoin the Single Market to save agriculture and fisheries in the UK. The cards to play would be acceptance of all EU rules without the ability to influence them and a big wedge of annual dosh. Then you'll see the EU cave! 😉 Apologies, still got half my morning coffee to go. Yeah that'll show 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Force? We have no cards to play. But...but.....that slimeball Gove said, “We hold ALL the cards”. Was that another lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: But...but.....that slimeball Gove said, “We hold ALL the cards”. Was that another lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: But...but.....that slimeball Gove said, “We hold ALL the cards”. Was that another lie? He’s a muppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said: He’s a muppet A nonce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Arlene Foster stepping down as First Minister of Norn Iron and also as head of the DUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Appears to have been forced out by the hardliners. This isn't good news for Northern Ireland, especially if a religious zealot takes charge, as they'll take N.Ireland back decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 10:24, WorldChampions1902 said: But...but.....that slimeball Gove said, “We hold ALL the cards”. Was that another lie? We held a 2 & 7 off suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 10:24, WorldChampions1902 said: But...but.....that slimeball Gove said, “We hold ALL the cards”. Was that another lie? We held a 2 & 7 off suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 17:39, Jambo-Jimbo said: Appears to have been forced out by the hardliners. This isn't good news for Northern Ireland, especially if a religious zealot takes charge, as they'll take N.Ireland back decades. This clown is the front runner... Honestly, words fail me with that place... A creationist who believes earth is around 4k years old🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: This clown is the front runner... Honestly, words fail me with that place... A creationist who believes earth is around 4k years old🤣 What a basket case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: This clown is the front runner... Honestly, words fail me with that place... A creationist who believes earth is around 4k years old🤣 It will hopefully hasten the end of the kiddy on country of NI. Something I could never imagine me saying 50 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 More good news on the fishing front. The UK government has failed to negotiate the right for British boats to be allowed to fish the Norwegian Arctic waters, where the majority of the UK landed Cod comes from. Sunlit uplands 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: This clown is the front runner... Honestly, words fail me with that place... A creationist who believes earth is around 4k years old🤣 Knew it, I just knew it. 3 hours ago, XB52 said: It will hopefully hasten the end of the kiddy on country of NI. Something I could never imagine me saying 50 years ago. Hope not, because Scotland will get all the dinosaurs, weegieland would be a no go area, it's bad enough when they get the day trippers over for a match, what would it be like if they lived there all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, jack D and coke said: This clown is the front runner... Honestly, words fail me with that place... A creationist who believes earth is around 4k years old🤣 C'mon now, he infers more than 6k years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Hope not, because Scotland will get all the dinosaurs, weegieland would be a no go area, it's bad enough when they get the day trippers over for a match, what would it be like if they lived there all the time. Presumably, according to that DUP guy, dinosaurs never existed. But I agree with the OFFS scenario you describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 "On second thoughts, let's not go to Belfast. It is a silly place." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Jersey to be without power as French sulks grow !! Fishing row triggers French threat of Jersey power cut - BBC News The French government has voiced anger over what it calls new UK fishing rules in the Channel and warns it could cut electricity to Jersey in response. Maritime Minister Annick Girardin told the French parliament that the new rules governing access to Channel Islands waters were unacceptable. She said "we are ready to use the retaliatory measures" under the UK-EU post-Brexit trade deal. She then mentioned France's underwater cables supplying power to Jersey. "I am sorry it has come to this [but] we will do so if we have to," she said. In a statement to AFP news agency, the French fisheries ministry said the UK had introduced "new technical measures" linked to licences for fishing off the Channel Islands, which had not been communicated to the EU and were, therefore, "null and void". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 UK unilaterally changed the fishing rules with no consultation on the other side. France and the EU then casually mention that maybe someone might turn off the electricity supply to Jersey without consultation, or deny UK banks their EU licenses. Two can play hardball. You can expect a UK capitulation in the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Now the French fisher persons discuss blockade of Jersey UK sends Royal Navy patrol ships to monitor Jersey blockade - BBC News The UK will send two Royal Navy patrol vessels to monitor a planned blockade of Jersey's main port amid a fishing rights row with France. PM Boris Johnson pledged his "unwavering support" for the island, a Crown dependency 14 miles (22km) off France in the English Channel. It came after the French government threatened to cut off Jersey's electricity over a post-Brexit dispute. The row emerged over a new licensing system for French fishing vessels. The system - introduced by the Government of Jersey under the UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) - requires French boats to show they have a history of fishing in Jersey's waters. But French authorities said "new technical measures" for fishing off the Channel Islands had not been communicated to the EU, rendering them "null and void". The AFP news agency reported that about 100 French fishing vessels would sail to Jersey's port on Thursday as part of a protest against the new rules, quoting the head of fisheries for the Normandy region, Dimitri Rogoff. Mr Rogoff said the vessels would not try to block the port at St Helier and would return to France in the afternoon, AFP reported. Downing Street said Mr Johnson believed "any blockade would be completely unjustified" and that the Navy vessels would be deployed as a "precautionary measure". The prime minister held talks with Jersey's Chief Minister John Le Fondré and Minister of External Affairs Ian Gorst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Barack said: War against France. Just like the olden days! Scotland to rekindle the Auld Alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 In this particular case, Boris is right. Jersey is a UK protectorate and French fishermen were threatening an illegal blockade. Nothing he can do if the French flip the switch and turn the lights off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cade said: In this particular case, Boris is right. Jersey is a UK protectorate and French fishermen were threatening an illegal blockade. Nothing he can do if the French flip the switch and turn the lights off though. Easy...just block the wine imports The French governments simply bow down when things get tough at home and reform is a word they don't recognise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Barack said: No plaice in our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Actually thinking you can start a trade war with France, and by extension the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Barack said: **** them. Macron's a wee inferior Napoleon. Scotland to stab them in the back, pls. I've always known you had your head scewed on, Barack. Edited May 5, 2021 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Barack said: Man's a tit. And will probably join Sarkozy at some point. Another wee tit with illusions of granduer, wrapped up in an inferiority complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 UK capitulates in their childish refusal to grant the EU's ambassador full diplomatic status. UK has now granted the EU ambassador full diplomatic status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Seps must hate all this EU co-operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Barack said: Man's a tit. And will probably join Sarkozy at some point. Another wee tit with illusions of granduer, wrapped up in an inferiority complex. Imagine the EDL have already mobilised, & are trying to throw bottles at France as we speak. Napoleon the 10th. But I suppose most wee guys have a complex. Most I know, do. Edited May 6, 2021 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Boris sends in the gunboats. Are there elections today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, FWJ said: Boris sends in the gunboats. Are there elections today? "EU co-operation" mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 hours ago, CJGJ said: Now the French fisher persons discuss blockade of Jersey UK sends Royal Navy patrol ships to monitor Jersey blockade - BBC News The UK will send two Royal Navy patrol vessels to monitor a planned blockade of Jersey's main port amid a fishing rights row with France. PM Boris Johnson pledged his "unwavering support" for the island, a Crown dependency 14 miles (22km) off France in the English Channel. It came after the French government threatened to cut off Jersey's electricity over a post-Brexit dispute. The row emerged over a new licensing system for French fishing vessels. The system - introduced by the Government of Jersey under the UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) - requires French boats to show they have a history of fishing in Jersey's waters. But French authorities said "new technical measures" for fishing off the Channel Islands had not been communicated to the EU, rendering them "null and void". The AFP news agency reported that about 100 French fishing vessels would sail to Jersey's port on Thursday as part of a protest against the new rules, quoting the head of fisheries for the Normandy region, Dimitri Rogoff. Mr Rogoff said the vessels would not try to block the port at St Helier and would return to France in the afternoon, AFP reported. Downing Street said Mr Johnson believed "any blockade would be completely unjustified" and that the Navy vessels would be deployed as a "precautionary measure". The prime minister held talks with Jersey's Chief Minister John Le Fondré and Minister of External Affairs Ian Gorst. File under another thing the Brexiteers never thought through before hand. There'll be many more to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Nearly everything goes through France. Vive la France! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: File under another thing the Brexiteers never thought through before hand. There'll be many more to come. The bit in bold is truly starting to hit home. Project Reality supersedes Project Wishful Thinking. Good on France for refusing to accept Brexs***t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 20 hours ago, Barack said: No plaice in our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 We actually sent gunboats....gunboats... Check the nick of us man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: We actually sent gunboats....gunboats... Check the nick of us man. Rule Britannia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairneyhill Jambo Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: We actually sent gunboats....gunboats... Check the nick of us man. Just when you think it couldn't get any more bizarre... "A MEMBER of the Jersey Militia reenactment group was filmed firing at French boats with a musket on Thursday morning as 100 boats descended on to the harbour." https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1432476/jersey-Militia-musket-video-france-boats-blockade-vn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, Cairneyhill Jambo said: Just when you think it couldn't get any more bizarre... "A MEMBER of the Jersey Militia reenactment group was filmed firing at French boats with a musket on Thursday morning as 100 boats descended on to the harbour." https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1432476/jersey-Militia-musket-video-france-boats-blockade-vn Hahahaha ****ing hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: We actually sent gunboats....gunboats... Check the nick of us man. Fecking right. Remember Trafalgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Fecking right. Remember Trafalgar 8273AA2C-A466-4143-8C3E-B81C5BE25A86.webp E19DD58F-1337-4915-8878-5946ECA26EC5.webp Edited May 6, 2021 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Global (laughing stock) Britain. EU has formally accused the UK of breaching the withdrawal agreement with regards to fishing around Jersey. Legal remedy being prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, jack D and coke said: We actually sent gunboats....gunboats... Check the nick of us man. “Don’t tell them Pike!”. Nous sommes “doomed”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 😐 Edited May 6, 2021 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 What the UK media didn't tell you; France also sent two armed Customs boats to the scene to balance out Boris' diddy fleet. The head of the French fishermen delegation met with the Jersey minister for the Environment for almost two hours in neutral waters with their boats tied up alongside each other. Talks were apparently cordial and productive. The French protest lasted for over 6 hours before going home. But the UK media paints it as "BRAVE BORIS STARES DOWN THE FROGGIES" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 22 hours ago, Cade said: What the UK media didn't tell you; France also sent two armed Customs boats to the scene to balance out Boris' diddy fleet. The head of the French fishermen delegation met with the Jersey minister for the Environment for almost two hours in neutral waters with their boats tied up alongside each other. Talks were apparently cordial and productive. The French protest lasted for over 6 hours before going home. But the UK media paints it as "BRAVE BORIS STARES DOWN THE FROGGIES" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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