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The Mighty Thor Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Ulysses said: Amazingly Arlene Foster and her dinosaur cronies are getting a free pass. They took the Tory shilling and actively supported the Brexit process. It's been clear for years that the biggest threat to the union is the unionists. What's happening in Belfast is the death throes of the empire as Ireland trundles on towards unification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Amazingly Arlene Foster and her dinosaur cronies are getting a free pass. They took the Tory shilling and actively supported the Brexit process. It's been clear for years that the biggest threat to the union is the unionists. What's happening in Belfast is the death throes of the empire as Ireland trundles on towards unification. Maybe, but I think you underestimate the determination of the Ulster unionist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Amazingly Arlene Foster and her dinosaur cronies are getting a free pass. They took the Tory shilling and actively supported the Brexit process. It's been clear for years that the biggest threat to the union is the unionists. What's happening in Belfast is the death throes of the empire as Ireland trundles on towards unification. I agree that the DUP blundered spectacularly over their position on Brexit, for whatever reason. But I don't think there will be a border poll soon or that a united Ireland is inevitable. The IRA terrorists had to put down their arms as they were unable to murder Loyalists out of their British identity. The working class loyalist Community needs support, not further alienation. Otherwise there will be chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 GFA made a land border illegal. Which made a true Hard Brexit illegal. But the Tory maniacs running the country wanted a Had Brexit. So the border is down the Irish Sea as a compromise measure to give them the hardest legal Brexit that can be done. Unionists are upset. But as the GFA is a UN-registered international peace treaty guaranteed by the USA and EU, it's far more important than the DUP's hurt feelings. If unionists will have to accept the Irish Sea border. Or somehow convince Boris to re-join the Customs Union and accept a soft Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Watching all the old videos of BJ saying this that and the other about what would happen and what he would allow then just doing the exact opposite. Lying... lying like a mother ****er and still he’s barely called out in the media as now Belfast erupts into this violence. Add in his recent stories with Jenny Arcuri that have went unanswered. How is this man PM? Edited April 9, 2021 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Watching all the old videos of BJ saying this that and the other about what would happen and what he would allow then just doing the exact opposite. Lying... lying like a mother ****er and still he’s barely called out in the media as now Belfast erupts into this violence. Add in his recent stories with Jenny Arcuri that have went unanswered. How is this man PM? He's an arsehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Watching all the old videos of BJ saying this that and the other about what would happen and what he would allow then just doing the exact opposite. Lying... lying like a mother ****er and still he’s barely called out in the media as now Belfast erupts into this violence. Add in his recent stories with Jenny Arcuri that have went unanswered. How is this man PM? Because as we saw with Trump a lot of people don't care as long as you surround yourself with flags and GET BREXIT DONE or MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN or whatever soundbite nonsense you spout. It's leadership, don'tcha know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: He's an arsehole. 4 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: Because as we saw with Trump a lot of people don't care as long as you surround yourself with flags and GET BREXIT DONE or MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN or whatever soundbite nonsense you spout. It's leadership, don'tcha know Britain will be in absolute tatters if he’s allowed to hang around He truly is different gravy to anyone before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Smithee said: Maybe, but I think you underestimate the determination of the Ulster unionist. 5 hours ago, pablo said: The working class loyalist Community needs support, not further alienation. Otherwise there will be chaos. I don't doubt the dinosaur community have no desire for change and will go to pretty desperate lengths to preserve their 'identity', however I think they grossly under-estimate just how little this current crop of free-market Tory shysters give a shit about them. They've don't need them fiscally, they don't need them politically as their constant boundary changes mean that they'll be in power forever more. As far as Johnson's concerned Brexit is done and the ramifications of that decision are what they are particularly in places far far away from Westminster. This of course makes the assumption that the current nonsense is actually about Brexit and not just an early outbreak of the annual Northern Irish freedom of expression, criminality and general arseholery we've all come to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: I don't doubt the dinosaur community have no desire for change and will go to pretty desperate lengths to preserve their 'identity', however I think they grossly under-estimate just how little this current crop of free-market Tory shysters give a shit about them. They've don't need them fiscally, they don't need them politically as their constant boundary changes mean that they'll be in power forever more. As far as Johnson's concerned Brexit is done and the ramifications of that decision are what they are particularly in places far far away from Westminster. This of course makes the assumption that the current nonsense is actually about Brexit and not just an early outbreak of the annual Northern Irish freedom of expression, criminality and general arseholery we've all come to know. With any luck the loyalists will realise the Tories don't care much for the Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Some indications that the current problems have a key reason. Border checks have seriously disrupted the loyalist paramilitary drug supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Some indications that the current problems have a key reason. Border checks have seriously disrupted the loyalist paramilitary drug supply. It's not really border checks. It's more on the ground police activity. Loyalty to the crown - and the half-crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 09/04/2021 at 07:27, The Mighty Thor said: Amazingly Arlene Foster and her dinosaur cronies are getting a free pass. They took the Tory shilling and actively supported the Brexit process. It's been clear for years that the biggest threat to the union is the unionists. What's happening in Belfast is the death throes of the empire as Ireland trundles on towards unification. I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong, except to suggest that the biggest threat to the union might well be English nationalism. On 09/04/2021 at 07:47, pablo said: The IRA terrorists had to put down their arms as they were unable to murder Loyalists out of their British identity. And neither loyalist terrorists nor the military forces of a state with a permanent seat on the UN Security Council were able to kill nationalists and republicans out of their Irish identity. If they were to start with the bang bang stuff again, does anyone really think the outcome would be different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Change is expensive/significant and real. A lot of people end up paying the price. If a person/party is advocating a significant change, they bloody well better have a cast iron solid argument about how the future might turn out. See that? That's exactly what the English nationalists failed to do. They were told that this would cause trouble in NI, but they went ahead anyway. Five years ago there was no real prospect of NI being separated from the UK. The GFA had produced this wonderfully ambiguous and blurred setup within which both unionists and nationalists could live out their respective identities. Why? Because of a complicated and nuanced set of arrangements and use of language, all underpinned by an invisible border, which allowed people to see the North in whatever way made them feel comfortable in their political identity. But the combination of English nationalists, extremists, and the easily led who advocated the radical and significant change of Brexit neither knew nor cared about those complexities, and pressed on with their little Englander project regardless. Brexit has forced people to see what they previously didn't have to look at, and is forcing people to make choices in a way that creates losers - and that is always going to be troublesome. And as a result, there is now a genuine possibility that NI will be prised out of the UK, and probably at a very high cost. So yep mister, you're damned ****ing right. If a person/party is advocating a significant change, they bloody well better have a cast iron solid argument about how the future might turn out. It's just a pity England didn't think of that when it was throwing its strop back in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: I understand why you say 'English nationalists', but in order to understand why the United Kingdom voted the way it did, one has to pay attention to many reasons, it was never a thing as simplistic as mere 'English nationalists'. Wales, voted Leave, for instance. (parts of Scotland and England also voted leave) ((Parts of Wales probably voted Remain)) I live in hope that whatever each person identifies as, or where they live, or where the came from, doesn't really matter, and all the countries and governments, in the 21st Century, allow us all to just get on with being ourselves. Wales? Northern Ireland? Scotland? Who gives a crap? The UK is almost 90% English, that's the power of numbers, it's just how it is. Brexit is and has always been an exercise in English nationalism; everyone else who votes for it is just along for the ride. The political equilibrium in NI depends on ambivalence and ambiguity. Brexit is anything but an exercise in ambivalence and ambiguity. Brexit doesn't allow people to "just get on with being ourselves". It forces people living in the North to make choices they'd rather not make - and once you do that, it becomes almost inevitable that at some point NI will vote to leave the UK. NI has changed dramatically since the GFA - the numbers who identify as Irish are growing, and unionism is weakening as a political force. NI was created with an artificially engineered demographic majority of British unionists. That majority is gone. But that wasn't a problem up until 2016 because there were enough Irish nationalists to play the game of "invisible border" aided and abetted by the fact that both the UK and Ireland were EU members. But those voted for Brexit denied them that outlet, so now the only way they can retrieve their identity and their rights is to join the EU - and the most effective way to do that will be to take NI out of the UK. How long do you think it will be before the Irish in NI are a majority of voters? 2025? 2030? It's highly unlikely to be later. Without the flexibility of EU membership, how long do you think it will take before they decide to leave, regardless of the consequences? And if they do decide to leave, do you think that England - the heart of the Union - will stop them? Will want to stop them? And it's all perfectly legal and constitutional - read the Good Friday Agreement and you'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Here's a Twitter thread by Patrick Kielty that does a reasonable job of explaining things in an accessible way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Zlatanable said: I understand why you say 'English nationalists', but in order to understand why the United Kingdom voted the way it did, one has to pay attention to many reasons, it was never a thing as simplistic as mere 'English nationalists'. Wales, voted Leave, for instance. (parts of Scotland and England also voted leave) ((Parts of Wales probably voted Remain)) I live in hope that whatever each person identifies as, or where they live, or where the came from, doesn't really matter, and all the countries and governments, in the 21st Century, allow us all to just get on with being ourselves. Keep slavering your pish, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted remain. 50% of the Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Keep slavering your pish, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted remain. 50% of the Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Keep slavering your pish, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted remain. 50% of the Union. Unfortunately, Brexit was one of those moments when we all discovered that NI and Scotland are in fact a lot less than 50% of the Union. That, as they say, is democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 There’s still a chance we could end up trading on WTO rules if the votes go the wrong way! https://apple.news/AZdQ5rqEhTjeeZX-WkYFeLQ The European Parliament gave the go-ahead on Tuesday for two key committees to vote this week on the EU-UK trade deal, but deferred a decision on whether the full parliament will give its assent later this month. Ratification by the parliament is the final step in clearing the trade and cooperation agreement struck between Britain and the European Union in December. It has until the end of April to do so. If it does not, and the provisional application of the agreement is not extended, then the trade deal would cease to apply, leaving Britain and the European Union to trade on WTO terms with tariffs and quotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 EU signs a new trade deal with Mexico. On better terms than the one the UK just made with Mexico. Global Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, Cade said: EU signs a new trade deal with Mexico. On better terms than the one the UK just made with Mexico. Global Britain. Little englanders and their enablers eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 UK begins negotiations with Australia by.....erm....launching a personal attack on the Australian trade negotiator. "When he arrives, sit him on a really hard, uncomfortable chair and get him to show us the colour of his money" "He's inexperienced in the job and will be easy pickings" Whilst he is new to this particular role, he has served as a trade envoy for over twenty years. I'm unsure how belittling, denigrating and attacking the other side is a good tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Cade said: EU signs a new trade deal with Mexico. On better terms than the one the UK just made with Mexico. Global Britain. EVERY trade deal the UK signs post Brexit will be inferior to any deal the EU already has in place with that country. That's how the EU negotiates trade deals for its members. But brexiters wanted to be able to negotiate their own inferior deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Cade said: UK begins negotiations with Australia by.....erm....launching a personal attack on the Australian trade negotiator. "When he arrives, sit him on a really hard, uncomfortable chair and get him to show us the colour of his money" "He's inexperienced in the job and will be easy pickings" Whilst he is new to this particular role, he has served as a trade envoy for over twenty years. I'm unsure how belittling, denigrating and attacking the other side is a good tactic. He's come to negotiate with the empire. Two world wars, one world Cup. He's jolly lucky to be even getting a meeting with HM Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: He's come to negotiate with the empire. Two world wars, one world Cup. He's jolly lucky to be even getting a meeting with HM Government. Is UK still exporting convicts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: Is UK still exporting convicts ? Where's ma chib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 22/04/2021 at 20:53, NANOJAMBO said: EVERY trade deal the UK signs post Brexit will be inferior to any deal the EU already has in place with that country. That's how the EU negotiates trade deals for its members. But brexiters wanted to be able to negotiate their own inferior deals. Yup! As this article explains, the new EU deal with Mexico gives all 27 EU states a significant advantage over the U.K. in trade. If only we had Remained in the EU? Oh....and it seems we have also now screwed a number of existing trade arrangements with Commonwealth countries. Brexit - the gift that just keeps on giving. https://bylinetimes.com/2021/04/22/uks-post-brexit-mexican-trade-deal-left-obsolete/?fbclid=IwAR1GEa5vCDM3H2lGIR04OV5ZDIaKnrbvJuq9nuyOJ8Y3Rda80DdYLl5qbbM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: Brexit - the grift that just keeps on giving. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 But, we get to control our borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The EU is imploding and folk are still greeting about leaving the sinking ship The trade deal with Australia is all but signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Oh and Sturgeon got mauled by Andrew Marr this morning Nicola Sturgeon's Independent Scotland flawed talks with EU exposed in BBC Marr interview | Politics | News | Express.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Oh and Sturgeon got mauled by Andrew Marr this morning Nicola Sturgeon's Independent Scotland flawed talks with EU exposed in BBC Marr interview | Politics | News | Express.co.uk If it was boxing the ref would've stopped the fight imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: If it was boxing the ref would've stopped the fight imo. What the Feck were you two watching. Ffs! Anyway, you lot stick worshiping the Boris and the corrupt WM, while Scotland ends all ties with that cesspit of scum. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: The EU is imploding and folk are still greeting about leaving the sinking ship The trade deal with Australia is all but signed Australia have a better deal than the UK job loses anaw But hey. A No voting brexiter traitor. Some going Nucky. All you need now is to vote ukip and shut Scotland down completely. Then the real fun can commence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 UK Australia trade deal worth a whopping £500m. Just £400b to go. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: UK Australia trade deal worth a whopping £500m. Just £400b to go. 👍 £20 billion and a major boost to Scottish whisky producers Britain on brink of signing landmark trade deal with Australia worth £20billion (thesun.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Australia have a better deal than the UK job loses anaw But hey. A No voting brexiter traitor. Some going Nucky. All you need now is to vote ukip and shut Scotland down completely. Then the real fun can commence. The majority in Scotland voted no and 1.05 million voted for Brexit. Thank God we did leave, or we would all be scrambling around for vaccines. EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Too much whisky on your haggis this morning, ri Alban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: £20 billion and a major boost to Scottish whisky producers Britain on brink of signing landmark trade deal with Australia worth £20billion (thesun.co.uk) It’s all good if true but where’s the £20billion figure suddenly came from? Andrew Marr had Liz Truss on yesterday and she admitted it was £500million a year and the Aussies were making £4.2 billion... Its suddenly worth 40 times as much overnight??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: £20 billion and a major boost to Scottish whisky producers Britain on brink of signing landmark trade deal with Australia worth £20billion (thesun.co.uk) "Ms Truss wooed her counterpart with Vietnamese food on Thursday evening, before spoiling the contingent from Down Under with fish and chips yesterday." Aye nice one Traynor, you wanting some succulent lamb too aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: It’s all good if true but where’s the £20billion figure suddenly came from? Andrew Marr had Liz Truss on yesterday and she admitted it was £500million a year and the Aussies were making £4.2 billion... Its suddenly worth 40 times as much overnight??! As above, succulent lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Did you know the UK have stuck £500m(UK economy) trade deal with Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Did you know the UK have stuck £500m(UK economy) trade deal with Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 EU take AstraZeneca to court on the same day the Netherlands said that they are wasting 11 million AZ doses because they won't be needed anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 It’s all working really, so it is! Sales of milk and cream to the EU have dropped by 96 per cent – and yet, silence from the Brexiteers If Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would look like once we left the single market, perhaps they should take a look now This is Boris Johnson’s last chance. There is always, as there was with coronavirus lockdowns, that moment when all the warning signs are there, and fast government action is needed. Now that UK milk and meat exports have been virtually wiped out, alongside the dying fishing sector, with Brexit that moment is now. Boris Johnson could re-open the Brexit trade deal, ensure frictionless trade and save thousands of jobs. But only if he cares enough about the voters he won over five years ago. So let’s give Boris Johnson and all Brexiteers the maximum benefit of the doubt. Let’s say Boris Johnson isn’t a sociopath and that, in 2016, he meant it when he said the idea of Brexit creating trade barriers was “utterly absurd”. Let’s say that last Christmas, when he repeated that promise after signing the EU trade deal, he truly believed everything would be fine for the people whose jobs rely on EU trade. Let’s say Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would actually be like once we left the single market. Well… take a look. The UK’s Food and Drink Federation (FDF) has reported that the UK’s sale of milk and cream to the EU has dropped by 96 per cent; chicken and beef by 80 per cent. Food and drinks exports are 40.9 per cent down since last February and exporters have lost a total of £1bn since January. This is largely due to the additional paperwork needed now that the Dover-Calais crossing has become the external border of the EU market. The rules around food and drink are therefore no longer the same on either side of the border. Unless Boris Johnson fixes this, British farmers will pay with their jobs. In 2016, he told them: “The extra incentive for our farmers to go for Leave is getting rid of that burden.” Only a monster would promise thousands of farmers that Brexit would free them of costly paperwork, deliver a Brexit that drowns them in paperwork, and then do nothing about it. People voted for Brexit and for Boris Johnson because they honestly believed that both were about delivering for ordinary people. They saw a system that favours the rich and powerful, and they wanted to take something back for the average man and woman of the UK. Tragically, the FDF reports that “small businesses have been hardest hit”. The increased cost of doing business has been swallowed easily by the larger corporations while the little ones are choking. Our economy is still on life support because of government assistance, including the furlough scheme, and yet jobs have already started to trickle out through that Brexit hole. And yet with furlough scheduled to end later this year, along with the grace periods on further trade barriers, Boris Johnson is refusing to plug that hole before it gets much bigger. Why? Fixing this would require re-opening the Brexit trade deal, as trade associations and a parliament trade committee are begging him to. Boris Johnson knows that if he did that, it would be a clear sign that, two years after the election, Brexit still isn’t “done”, as his manifesto promised. But anyone whose fishing company is struggling knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone filling out mountains of costly paperwork to sell their livestock knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone who lives in Northern Ireland knows Brexit isn’t done. Hell, anyone who has read the deal knows Brexit isn’t done. The only question now is whether Boris Johnson would rather protect an exposed lie, or actually help people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Boy Daniel said: It’s all working really, so it is! Sales of milk and cream to the EU have dropped by 96 per cent – and yet, silence from the Brexiteers If Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would look like once we left the single market, perhaps they should take a look now This is Boris Johnson’s last chance. There is always, as there was with coronavirus lockdowns, that moment when all the warning signs are there, and fast government action is needed. Now that UK milk and meat exports have been virtually wiped out, alongside the dying fishing sector, with Brexit that moment is now. Boris Johnson could re-open the Brexit trade deal, ensure frictionless trade and save thousands of jobs. But only if he cares enough about the voters he won over five years ago. So let’s give Boris Johnson and all Brexiteers the maximum benefit of the doubt. Let’s say Boris Johnson isn’t a sociopath and that, in 2016, he meant it when he said the idea of Brexit creating trade barriers was “utterly absurd”. Let’s say that last Christmas, when he repeated that promise after signing the EU trade deal, he truly believed everything would be fine for the people whose jobs rely on EU trade. Let’s say Brexiteers just needed to see with their own eyes what things would actually be like once we left the single market. Well… take a look. The UK’s Food and Drink Federation (FDF) has reported that the UK’s sale of milk and cream to the EU has dropped by 96 per cent; chicken and beef by 80 per cent. Food and drinks exports are 40.9 per cent down since last February and exporters have lost a total of £1bn since January. This is largely due to the additional paperwork needed now that the Dover-Calais crossing has become the external border of the EU market. The rules around food and drink are therefore no longer the same on either side of the border. Unless Boris Johnson fixes this, British farmers will pay with their jobs. In 2016, he told them: “The extra incentive for our farmers to go for Leave is getting rid of that burden.” Only a monster would promise thousands of farmers that Brexit would free them of costly paperwork, deliver a Brexit that drowns them in paperwork, and then do nothing about it. People voted for Brexit and for Boris Johnson because they honestly believed that both were about delivering for ordinary people. They saw a system that favours the rich and powerful, and they wanted to take something back for the average man and woman of the UK. Tragically, the FDF reports that “small businesses have been hardest hit”. The increased cost of doing business has been swallowed easily by the larger corporations while the little ones are choking. Our economy is still on life support because of government assistance, including the furlough scheme, and yet jobs have already started to trickle out through that Brexit hole. And yet with furlough scheduled to end later this year, along with the grace periods on further trade barriers, Boris Johnson is refusing to plug that hole before it gets much bigger. Why? Fixing this would require re-opening the Brexit trade deal, as trade associations and a parliament trade committee are begging him to. Boris Johnson knows that if he did that, it would be a clear sign that, two years after the election, Brexit still isn’t “done”, as his manifesto promised. But anyone whose fishing company is struggling knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone filling out mountains of costly paperwork to sell their livestock knows Brexit isn’t done. Anyone who lives in Northern Ireland knows Brexit isn’t done. Hell, anyone who has read the deal knows Brexit isn’t done. The only question now is whether Boris Johnson would rather protect an exposed lie, or actually help people. There are no customs agents (some people are confusing with customs officers!! ) to do the work - apparently we need 60K of them. They quite literally ceased to exist due to UK's EU membership made them redundant. Again, warnings were ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: 651 words. (you could have included a space between each paragraph) But anyway, I doubt many folk will read all of your 651 words. ((I bet I could edit your post down to a few paragraphs, and I am dyslexic)) Yeah, please don't do 651 word posts, it is never necessary, imo. (52 words) Ach away wi yer facts and figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The SNP just love growth, not in the Scottish economy as nobody will invest in their incompetent chaos but in their block grant from the Toaries. Please sir kin we huv some mare tae spend oan aw the stuff yous canny afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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